#rockbox 2014-10-17

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#rockbox log for 2014-10-17

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00:20:44	[Franklin]	forums seem awfully slow right now...
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00:31:14	[Franklin]	ls
00:46:56	[Franklin]	foolzzzz: how should the System abstraction be ported?
00:47:08	[Franklin]	keep it as is and replace the functions with function pointers?
00:47:13	[Franklin]	that seems doable
00:48:54	[Franklin]	foolzzzz: also, can I change the virtualmachine_ prefix to vm_?
00:49:00	[Franklin]	just too long to type :)
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01:10:54	[Franklin]	foolzzzz: gladly, the video "driver" only needs one function :O
01:11:06	[Franklin]	no framebuffers or anything in the system driver
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01:17:08	[Franklin]	foolsh: should I use rockbox's pallete support or write my own?
01:17:23	[Franklin]	it seems pal256 needs HAVE_LCD_MODE and LCD_MODE_PAL256
01:17:46	foolsh	Thats a good question, I'm not the one to who can answer it though
01:18:05	foolsh	and vm_ is a great prefix
01:18:05	[Franklin]	foolsh: also, can virtualmachine_ be changed to vm_?
01:18:09	[Franklin]	lol
01:18:10	[Franklin]	same time
01:18:14	foolsh	yep
01:18:16	*	[Franklin] did that anyway
01:18:26	[Franklin]	well... it's looking pretty good
01:18:38	[Franklin]	I'm just gonna finish up the wrapper and push
01:18:48	[Franklin]	surprisingly easy
01:22:55	[Franklin]	... me remembers that he needs to scale the thing
01:23:02	[Franklin]	hmm
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01:23:07	[Franklin]	forget that for now
01:24:12	[Franklin]	just unscaled for now
01:31:23	[Franklin]	aww... timers!
01:31:37	[Franklin]	but it's only used for sound :D
01:31:40	[Franklin]	which I don't care about
01:31:45	foolsh	for now no
01:31:54	[Franklin]	yeah
01:31:59	foolsh	the frames a 20ms slices I believe
01:32:12	[Franklin]	which is two plugin ticks
01:33:38	[Franklin]	also, there's a function that's supposed to return the fb
01:34:04	foolsh	the pallete I think, we should keep the ones from the software for now it may also help keep it portable, later maybe add hardware support at compile time if the target offers it
01:34:30	foolsh	I was thinking even a grey scale target could run this perhaps
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01:35:40	[Franklin]	yeah
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01:37:10	inputnoise	just stopping by to ask, how long is an database init gonna take? my ipod classic 6th gen has been going at it for 10+ mins now, is this normal?
01:37:18	[Franklin]	how much music?
01:37:22	inputnoise	21 tracks
01:37:28	[Franklin]	ahh... no
01:37:47	inputnoise	fuck
01:37:50	inputnoise	sry
01:37:55	inputnoise	i kinda thought so
01:38:31	[Franklin]	foolsh: just resource class left
01:38:37	[Franklin]	this may be a problem
01:39:16	foolsh	you're a machine [Franklin]! go go go go
01:39:21	inputnoise	is there a fix for this?
01:39:27	inputnoise	or do i need to try another version
01:39:27	inputnoise	or
01:39:29	[Franklin]	foolsh: lol
01:39:33	[Franklin]	inputnoise: restart?
01:39:38	inputnoise	done it
01:39:40	inputnoise	alot of times
01:39:52	inputnoise	reinstalled rockbox too
01:40:05	[Franklin]	ahh
01:43:02	inputnoise	how long does it take normally with few files
01:43:08	inputnoise	like lightning quick?
01:43:10	[Franklin]	seconds at most
01:43:59	inputnoise	dat sux
01:44:18	[Franklin]	what version of rb?
01:44:58	inputnoise	1e7b93a-141009
01:45:12	[Franklin]	so new
01:45:14	[Franklin]	hmm
01:45:15	[Franklin]	weird
01:47:52	[Franklin]	foolsh: GCC's erroring out when I include stdlib.h
01:49:47	foolsh	are your changes pushed to gerrit?
01:49:58	[Franklin]	not yet
01:50:17	[Franklin]	If you want really incomplete work, here it comes :)
01:51:02	inputnoise	trying to push over other files than flac to the device
01:51:06	inputnoise	to see if it helps
01:51:10	inputnoise	im out of ideas
01:51:11	inputnoise	;_;
01:51:13	[Franklin]	foolsh: uploading now
01:51:26	[Franklin]	up now!
01:51:35	foolsh	[Franklin], alright
01:51:59	[Franklin]	resource class needs work
01:52:10	*	[Franklin] leaves to do "real" work now
01:52:15	foolsh	o/
01:53:01	inputnoise	and wow
01:53:02	inputnoise	it worked
01:53:04	inputnoise	lel
01:53:15	inputnoise	6 albums only flac and it wont initzialize
01:53:29	[Franklin]	there's an unspoken rule agains't saying "LOL" and friends on this channel :)
01:53:29	inputnoise	put some mp3s on there and it gladly complies
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01:56:35	[Franklin]	try compiling it now
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01:58:05	[Franklin]	errors: http://pastebin.com/h0hccUcc
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02:05:23	[Franklin]	foolsh: this is really addictive!
02:08:18	foolsh	haha, I'm still running about doing my morning rituals, and google keeps timing out here for some reason, if I miss you I'll see you tomorrow
02:09:15	*	[Franklin] will need to go soon
02:09:23	[Franklin]	everything times out here
02:09:37	[Franklin]	this wifi adapter drops out every ~20 minutes
02:09:45	[Franklin]	sorry... /topic
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02:25:29	foolsh	[Franklin] opps I see I added sys.c to SOURCES, doesn't exist
02:29:25	[Franklin]	ahh
02:29:28	[Franklin]	soorry
02:29:42	foolsh	No that was me
02:29:49	[Franklin]	me
02:29:59	[Franklin]	... it was
02:29:59	foolsh	oh, well ok then
02:30:04	[Franklin]	fix on the way
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02:33:02	[Franklin]	foolsh: new patch set
02:33:42	*	foolsh needs more coffee
02:33:46	[Franklin]	foolsh: not so sure about lines 35+37 in sys.c
02:33:52	[Franklin]	not sure if the x-coord is right
02:34:25	[Franklin]	ahh... nope
02:34:32	[Franklin]	the original source helps
02:37:36	[Franklin]	alright... that was 3 patch sets in 1 minute, but the drawing should work no
02:37:39	[Franklin]	*now
02:38:12	[Franklin]	ahh... lol still no
02:40:14	foolsh	slow down... take a breath, you doing fine
02:40:20	foolsh	:-)
02:41:08	[Franklin]	lol
02:41:10	[Franklin]	lawl
02:41:21	*	[Franklin] stops spamming the channel
02:41:24	[Franklin]	</spam?
02:41:27	[Franklin]	</spam>
02:46:05	[Franklin]	foolsh: the drawing code is good except for one thing: the y-coordinate!
02:46:17	[Franklin]	not sure what y to draw the pixels at
02:48:31	foolsh	I don't know off the top of my head, but it "draws" to a section of memory with offsets for each frame buffer right, so I guess i depends how the memory is laid out
02:48:44	foolsh	it depends*
02:48:58	foolsh	You probably know better than I do now
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02:55:44	[Franklin]	foolsh: <FACEDESK>
02:55:46	[Franklin]	lol
02:55:51	[Franklin]	just need y+height
02:55:55	[Franklin]	two keys
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02:59:08	foolsh	When I was seventeen I spent 2 months trying to figure out how to do Z depth for my 3d engine..... I messed around with cos and sin functions, many perturbations of everything I knew... it was Y divided by Z so easy so simple, <FACEDESK> to be sure
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03:03:28	[Franklin]	foolsh: lol
03:04:17	noisesauce	Sorry guys, having issues with rockbox util in installing on a Clip Zip - would check the FAQs and forum topics but, for some reason I get this:
03:04:19	noisesauce	Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum! banned host This ban is not set to expire.
03:04:58	[Franklin]	noisesauce: have you been spamming it :D
03:05:03	[Franklin]	JKJK
03:05:03	noisesauce	I've not logged in to the rockbox forums in years, and was able to view topics just this morning.
03:05:15	[Franklin]	weird
03:05:28	[Franklin]	ask one of the forum moderators, maybe
03:05:31	[Franklin]	gevaerts?
03:05:37	[Franklin]	foolsh: anyway, gnite
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03:05:44	noisesauce	can't ask - can't log in
03:06:46	noisesauce	rockbox util fails with: Could not open: //F:clipza.bin for writing
03:07:54	noisesauce	so it's failing to patch the firmware
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03:08:35	foolsh	noisesauce, is the file clipza.bin there? when you browse to the folder
03:09:46	noisesauce	no it's not in the root directory
03:10:21	noisesauce	I tried renaming the up to date firmware accordingly and pasting in the root - no luck
03:12:04	foolsh	Of course I'm taking a guess sorry, Sometimes the mods get trigger happy, spam is annoying to deal with, it happened to me, just hang out and see if a mod comes around help
03:12:05	noisesauce	could it be that it's coming up as Sansa Clip Zip 4GB / "Internal Memory" - rather than F:// ?
03:12:21	noisesauce	I've not posted in the forum in 5-6 years
03:12:24	noisesauce	not even logged on
03:12:42	foolsh	wierd maybe its your IP address then
03:12:57	noisesauce	could be the proxy client I was using?
03:13:16	foolsh	thats a good guess, tey not using it
03:13:20	noisesauce	anyway I turned that off, still banned. awesome
03:13:27	foolsh	hmm
03:14:03	foolsh	[Saint] should waking up soon, he'll most likely help you
03:14:40	foolsh	noisesauce, tried google cache?
03:14:47	noisesauce	trying to manual install - nothing explaining how to compiling the bootloader manually though, just the .rockbox download.
03:15:49	noisesauce	must be missing something here...
03:16:54	noisesauce	will try now
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03:21:55	noisesauce	can some kind soul point me in the direction of how to take the stock firmware and add the bootloader? I remember doing this with some kind of command prompt back in the day on my old H140 - Rockbox Utility seems to not want to work
03:31:32	foolsh	noisesauce, sure, give me minute
03:31:55	noisesauce	thanks!!
03:32:54	foolsh	first try switching usb mode from MTP to MSC in the player settings
03:34:45	foolsh	and give rbutil another try, from the forum posts it's a common thing
03:36:05	noisesauce	will give that a try!
03:37:44	foolsh	all so here's a post with someone who had a different issue, http://pastebin.com/tX2r5CPu
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03:47:45	noisesauce	all working - thanks for your time foolsh!
03:47:55	foolsh	cool yw
03:47:58	noisesauce	great to have a rockbox device again
03:48:33	foolsh	give you IP address and we'll see if MOd picks out the irc logs and unbans you
03:48:48	foolsh	ghaa, my spelling is aweful this morning
03:49:40	noisesauce	r.e. the forum ban, think you someone should tell the mods - my IP address is as follows: 120.28.187.233 and it could be the chrome extension "Zenmate" playing a part
03:49:50	noisesauce	ah beat me to it
03:51:40	noisesauce	and the IP address when extension is on: 88.150.133.58
03:52:02	noisesauce	thanks again
03:52:24	foolsh	[Saint], saratoga, gevaerts LOGS ^
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08:15:56	foolsh	BLUEtab: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaClip
08:16:15	foolsh	Rockbox runs on the Clip v1, Clip v2, Clip+ and ClipZip? models, and is generally stable enough to use
08:19:13	BLUEtab	oops. I read that the port to zip clip was "unstable" ( http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS#AMSv2_issues_40Fuzev2_44_Clipv2_44_Clip_43_44_ClipZip_41 ) and I mistook that for "unsupported."
08:21:24	foolsh	it's commonly mistaken for a misnomer, but it just means "don't throw a fit if there is a bug you don't like"
08:22:02	foolsh	first switch usb mode from MTP to MSC in the player settings before you use rbutil
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10:23:27	gevaerts	scorche: can you check if 120.28.187.233, 88.150.133.58, or 80.84.56.34 appear in the apache logs, (at around 01:00 to 01:40 UTC this morning, which I think is 18:00..18:40 yesterday in the server's time zone) and give me an exact timestamp if you find something? I can then investigate this possible ban further (unless you want to do it...)
10:27:23	gevaerts	BLUEtab: I'm not familiar with the clip zip's original firmware, but I once made a theme (which I then lost, unfortunately) that showed a large icon for the currently selected menu, with left and right of it a smaller icon for the previous and next item (and maybe, I don't remember, an even smaller icon next to it for the next one)
10:28:02	gevaerts	With some effort I can imagine making those smaller icons look a bit sideways for a 3d effect
10:28:54	gevaerts	Not sure if that's more or less what you meant...
10:29:11	BLUEtab	I'm just looking for a closer emulation of the original firmware than the existing attempt called "doppelganger," and wondered if it was even possible.
10:29:40	BLUEtab	So from that I think it might be.
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10:31:21	BLUEtab	I don't know how to make a theme, but I'll check the website to see how complicated it is.
10:32:11	gevaerts	Simple themes are fairly easy, complex themes sometimes less so :)
10:35:17	gevaerts	I'm not sure if there's a theme on the themesite that does this sort of thing. might try to make a proof of concept one of these days (maybe tonight, but I'm not sure if I'll have time)
10:38:01	BLUEtab	It's not really a 3D carousel. It's like a sideways slideshow with each main menu item on it's own page.
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10:59:40	gevaerts	So it only shows one at a time?
10:59:58	gevaerts	I'm not sure the sliding bit is doable, but the rest certainly is
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11:00:09	BLUEtab	yeah. it's like a simple page switch. one menu item per page
11:00:41	gevaerts	We're not very strong at animated transitions :)
11:02:45	BLUEtab	It worked well on the original firmware because their top level menu had around 5 items.
11:03:29	BLUEtab	I think I see why it would be less useful with rockbox's larger main menu
11:05:34	gevaerts	Depending on how you use rockbox, you can always hide some of those items
11:06:39	BLUEtab	I'll try that, thanks
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11:25:21	foolsh	BLUEtab: hmm you're looking for something pictureflow / coverflow-ic perhaps? Doesn't exist...
11:26:06	BLUEtab	Not as fancy as the 3D flow
11:27:37	BLUEtab	Just a main menu where each item has it's own screen, much like the original firmware. Let me see if I can find an example.
11:29:54	*	foolsh daydreams of menuflow; the code is right there, but then there's the memory and processor over head to think about, but on the other hand with today's hardware that's not an issue.. it would be neat
11:32:51	BLUEtab	There's a brief moment, maybe a few seconds, where this reviewer scrolls through a bit of the main menu on the original firmware. http://youtu.be/fd3m4MtzUJM?t=1m50s
11:41:39	foolsh	[Saint] know more of the themes and such, when he's comes around ask him
11:41:57	foolsh	But I've not seen anything close to that
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11:48:13	BLUEtab	Thanks. In the meantime I'll keep reading the manual. This thing is really long
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17:47:12	Whippler_	hey, could it be possible to get 2000mah option in battery settings for ipod classic rockbox
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22:16:21	lebellium	pamaury: I assume you didn't have time to look at the USB audio issue?
22:16:36	pamaury	no
22:16:40	lebellium	kugel__: did you get your new YP-R0 already?
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22:53:18	wodz	pamaury: You wanted me to test qeditor diff patch from gerrit or you wanted to extend it with colors firs?
22:53:21	wodz	t
22:53:44	pamaury	wodz: wait, i'm not done yet
22:53:58	wodz	ok
22:54:16	wodz	I assume e100 didn't arrive yet
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23:09:11	pamaury	wodz (logs): not yet, I think I should get it tomorrow
23:09:48	lebellium	I got the Spinn today
23:09:52	lebellium	better than the e100 :P
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23:30:41	pamaury	lebellium: is it good ?
23:31:26	lebellium	pamaury: looks interesting, quite different from its competitors back to the time like Samsung P3 and Cowon S9
23:31:41	lebellium	pamaury: more testing tomorrow
23:31:42	pamaury	what is the soc inside ?
23:32:49	lebellium	pamaury: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iriver#mediaviewer/File:IriverTD.jpg
23:33:22	lebellium	Telechips but I don't know which one
23:33:30	pamaury	it says telechip but not which one
23:33:34	lebellium	:)
23:34:31	lebellium	I assume TCC7901 like in YP-P3 and YP-Q3?
23:34:59	lebellium	or maybe the old TCC7801 like in YP-P2 and YP-Q1?
23:36:19	pamaury	where did you find it ?
23:37:51	lebellium	pamaury: on a French forum replacing generationmp3 called tellementnomade.com. I'm a 4 years member there and people gift or sell me their old players sometimes :)
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