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#rockbox log for 2014-10-23

00:10:03 Join ulmutul [0] (~chatzilla@wprt-4d09751f.pool.mediaWays.net)
00:13:24ulmutulthe-kyle: I've worked on YH820 keymaps recently, and the button layout seems more similar to the sansa clip than the ipods ;)
00:13:42ulmutulMaybe you'll want to take a look: g#1017
00:13:46fs-bluebot3Gerrit review #1017 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1017 : 3YH8xx,YH9xx: Keymap improvement (WIP) by Sebastian Leonhardt
00:17:02ulmutulb0hoon: ^
00:30:45[Franklin]foolsh: any idea what should be done about gzip file i/o>
00:30:46[Franklin]?
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00:33:03[Franklin]foolsh: how did you adapt member variable accesses to use ptr->? by hand or with a tool?
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00:35:37foolshBy hand, I finished p some of that, but I'm anxious of pushing them to gerrit. Maybe I should grep around and see if rockbox has zip function we can call
00:35:48foolshfinished up*
00:36:08[Franklin]aww
00:36:20*[Franklin] was hoping for a magic AWK script :)
00:37:18foolshmaybe on ewill spontaneously pop into existence if we wait around long enough
00:37:24foolshone will*
00:37:44[Franklin]hopefully
00:37:56*[Franklin] has little experience in that area
00:38:03[Saint]We don't have zip AFAIK, but, there's UCL in core I believe
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00:38:37*[Franklin] needs gzip
00:39:10foolshwe drop in the library I guess
00:39:18[Franklin]which?
00:39:34foolshwhich ever you like most
00:39:34[Franklin]licensing? :(
00:39:39foolshoh
00:39:42[Saint]Yay! Binsize!
00:39:50[Franklin]that too
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00:39:51[Saint]Just what we need.
00:40:12[Saint]Mind you, its not like lowmem wasn't already fucked.
00:40:22[Saint]Should've branched a while back.
00:40:34[Saint]And hwcodec/charcell
00:40:42[Saint]They need to die.
00:40:56[Saint]A noble death, sure. They deserve it.
00:41:02[Saint]Bit death nonetheless.
00:41:08[Saint]*but
00:42:39[Franklin]+1
00:43:44[Franklin]too much of a hassle to make sure plugins work with them
00:44:42gevaertsThat's the single argument that's not at all relevant
00:44:58[Franklin]but still
00:45:03[Franklin]who cares about those?
00:45:17[Franklin]10+ yrs old? forget it.
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00:46:35[Saint]Might as well stop using Rockbox then.
00:46:46[Saint]I'm sure there's a lot of core code much older.
00:47:27[Saint]And, yes, gevaerts is unsurprisingly entirely right.
00:47:52[Saint]Plugins can be easily disabled or enabled on a per target/class/arch basis
00:48:04[Franklin]but still... nothing works on them without modification
00:48:18[Saint]Plugin support isn't why we need to say goodbye to charcell and lowmem.
00:48:25[Saint]But it adds some weight.
00:48:26gevaertsYou're the one who thought the clip was too hard to be worth it...
00:48:30[Saint]Just...very little
00:48:31[Franklin]of course not JUST that
00:49:15[Franklin]but that's some of it
00:50:11gevaertsThere's *no* difference between the archoses and newer devices as far as plugins are concerned
00:50:26[Franklin]oh really
00:50:29gevaertsSome of them need more RAM or CPU speed, which is easy to deal with
00:50:34[Franklin]color...
00:50:38gevaertsclip?
00:50:42*[Franklin] hates that too
00:51:37gevaertsSo what excuse do you have to drop the clip?
00:52:02*[Franklin] didn't say he wanted to
00:52:10[Franklin]but archos, yes
00:52:28gevaertsAre you saying plugins are irrelevant for that decision?
00:52:53[Franklin]?
00:52:57[Franklin]what decision?
00:53:21gevaertsWhether or not to drop archos devices
00:53:28[Franklin]no
00:53:48[Franklin]certainly not
00:53:53[Franklin]but they're not the main factor
00:54:54[Franklin]A. they're barely used anymore
00:55:00[Franklin]B. they're OLD
00:55:05[Franklin]simple
00:55:17*gevaerts is glad that [Franklin] isn't in charge...
00:55:25scorche|shis anyone? ;)
00:55:44gevaertsNo, but some of us can try to force issues by committing stuff :)
00:56:22[Franklin]which is why I'm not... and never will be, a commiter :)
00:56:25*[Franklin] is glad
00:56:57ulmutulI've reworked an older gerrit commit. Is it a good idea to rebase to current head, or will will the next patchset fuck up dependencies?
00:57:16[Franklin]should be fine
00:57:26gevaertsrebasing is always a good idea
00:57:35ulmutulOk, thanks.
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07:31:42wodzpamaury: (log) I quickly tested qeditor difftab and it is much better now indeed. The bitfield values are not decoded though, but I think you know about it.
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10:48:03pamaurywodz (logs): yeah didn't notice ^^ I changed something in the code and only checked in the register tab, I'm going to fix this in two minutes
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11:10:14VoytasHello!
11:11:51VoytasGuys i have technical question about Sansa Clip+. It's bricked and I need to short-circuit NAND memory. I found a photo with pins marked but it's for Sansa Clip (non plus). Anybody knows the correct pins for Clip+??
11:26:02pamauryI'm no expert for the clip+, perhaps bertrik but he is not there, or funman ?
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11:27:17pamauryI know we have this page: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick but you probably need to discuss with someone before doing anything
11:33:22VoytasSo i have disassembled the player. I couldn't see any pins near the chip so i flipped it and I can see some pins on reverse
11:34:36VoytasFunman is not here :/
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11:36:55VoytasI can make some pics, if that would help somehow
11:59:17funmanVoytas: there is a picture for the Clip+, take your time to read the page
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12:15:54Voytas_funman please answer my pm!
12:20:45Voytas_I need somebody to point out clip+ pins for NAND short-circuit!
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12:20:51Voytas_http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/SansaClip/sansa_clipplus_4.jpg
12:20:59Voytas_http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/SansaClip/sansa_clipplus_3.jpg
12:21:46gevaertsVoytas_: they are clearly shown on the wiki page pamaury linked to
12:22:13Voytas_No, because its clip+. The wiki shows pins for Clip.
12:22:19Voytas_They're diffrent
12:22:40gevaertsHave you done advanced research like *looking* at that page?
12:23:00gevaertsOr scrolling down
12:25:39Voytas_I found only pics for Clip. But i have mine Clip+ disassembled and I can't locate any pins on the PCB. Only at LCD side.
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12:40:58wodzBTW. Anyone tried simply bridging data lines on nand chip? This should cause the fault and jump to rom 'rescue' code
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14:42:56wodzpamaury: Have you seen this: http://www.capstone-engine.org/ ?
14:43:02pamauryyes
14:44:23wodzpamaury: btw. I dived into atj213x bootrom dump. The progress is slow but steady. Unpleasant surprise is that nand handling code doesn't correspond well to the datasheet.
14:46:46pamaurythis is bad news
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15:36:01VoytasAnybody knows what pins to short-circuit Clip+?
15:36:04funmanVoytas: read the page again, the pictures for clip+ are under your eyes
15:41:21VoytasI can't find it....
15:41:48Voytasreading this http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,29115.0.html
15:43:10funmanread this http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick
15:43:43VoytasOkay got it. Thanks!
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16:16:07VoytasHey funman, It's again me. I have done exactly what was written in guide, but when i connect Clip+ to pc, linux discovers it as 3,7GB drive.
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16:32:00VoytasFunman. Shorting pins does not allow me to dd the firmware.
16:32:17VoytasI see /dev/sdd 3,7GB in lsblk, fdisk -l freezes
16:34:12funmansorry if your clip+ broke, I can't help you
16:34:56Voytasi tried to zero it, but it pops uut no medium found.
16:35:17VoytasNo problem, mine is actually working well. It's my friends.
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16:37:57pauldgrootHello, I'm trying to compile rockbox for my DX90 from source and I have a ubuntu VM set up
16:39:14pauldgrootWhen I tried to run the configure tool I got asked to install the android SDK and NDK which I did and I also added two enviroment variables to the root folders of the NDK and SDK
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16:40:51pauldgrootNow when I run the configure tool it gives me the warning that: arm-linux-androideabi.gcc: not found and arm-linux-androideabi.ld: not found
16:41:12pauldgrootoh and arm-linux-androideabi.dpp: not found
16:41:22pauldgrootcan anyone help me please?
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17:29:23wodzfunman: Have you tried bridging nand data lines directly?
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17:32:26funmanI probably tried but don't remember the result
17:32:46funmanafaiu you have a short timing before the bootloader can't access the nand so it goes over recovery mode, and it tries to access it again
17:33:17funmanwodz: if you want to try this you should get a 'Prison edition' Clip
17:34:17wodzyeah, I heard about this locked down version
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17:35:40Ross--Having issues with an iPod Video and skipping tracks >:(
17:36:06wodzwhat tracks are those?
17:36:31wodzand do you use eq by any chance?
17:36:42Ross--Theres no eq
17:36:53Ross--I've tried to read up on other bugs
17:37:00Ross--Which suggested Eq.
17:37:21Ross--One particular track that is skipping is The Chain - Fleetwood Mac
17:37:25Ross--It's FLAC
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17:37:52Ross--It skips at 1:38, i'm using the terminal theme and at about 1:36 it displays that it's reading from the HDD then skips at 38
17:38:27Ross--I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling, using the file structure or the database and tried switching from the stable build to the dev build
17:38:31Ross--Nothing seems to be working
17:38:41pauldgrootok figured it out, made my first rockbox build and it runs :)
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17:39:12wodzRoss−−: Are you 100% sure the track isn't corrupted?
17:39:36Ross--It might be? I'm not sure how to be 100%
17:39:47Ross--If i scan past 1:38 it keeps playing actually
17:39:54pauldgrootSee if it skips on a different player..
17:42:13Ross--Playing the track on my PC just now and it plays fine
17:43:29pauldgrootis it super high res?
17:44:10wodzwell, pc player may be more forgiving
17:44:35pauldgrootIs the file high bitrate/sample rate?
17:45:22Ross--It's at 24bits per sample
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17:48:03Ross--Is that too high?
17:48:28pauldgrootSee if its the same on 16 bit 44khz files
17:50:49Ross--Whats the best way to go about downsampling flac files?
17:51:10pauldgrootdBpoweramp is what I always use
17:51:33Ross--pauldgroot: Thanks, i'll try that
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18:02:42pauldgrootnp
18:03:00pauldgrootbut first try to test and see if that is your problem
18:03:13pauldgroottry more 24bit files and see if you can find a pettern
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18:06:07Ross--Well
18:06:10Ross--Testing with that one track
18:06:14Ross--converting it to 16bit
18:06:19Ross--it's playing fine now
18:06:38Ross--Guess to be safe i'll just set a batch file and convert my whole library with anything thats 24bit to be safe
18:06:58pauldgrootRockbox only does 16bit 44.1Khz I think
18:07:08pauldgrootEven if it's higher it will convert it down
18:07:33Ross--Yea
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18:07:41saratoga24 vs. 16 bit shouldn't make any difference for flac as far as i know
18:08:12Ross--Unless 24bit is making your rockbox skip, then it makes a difference :P
18:09:17saratogai'd check that the file isnt' corrupted somehow
18:14:20pauldgrootMaybe some weird compression on it?
18:16:00pauldgrootsaratoga are you a dev?
18:24:01pauldgrootI want to change my kaymapping but it doesn't seem to do anything
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18:39:44pauldgrootSwtiched around all settings in the dx50 keymap for the keyboard up and down ( { ACTION_KBD_DOWN, BUTTON_VOL_UP, BUTTON_NONE },)
18:40:21pauldgrootBut it still goes the way the buttons are intended to go, it seems like the keymap doesnt have effect on the action
18:41:10pauldgrootAlso tried this for other actions
18:41:18pauldgrootResult is the same
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18:50:37yuriksRoss−−: try just re-encodign the file to flac
18:50:47yurikswith the same bitrate and samplerate
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