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#rockbox log for 2014-11-15

00:04:13 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 34.0/20141110195804])
00:04:37[Franklin]wodz: for what?
00:04:43[Franklin]xworld or text viewer?
00:05:23wodzwhatever
00:05:35[Franklin]so what can it be used for?
00:05:38[Franklin]rotation or scaling?
00:06:39wodzrotation
00:07:05[Franklin]wodz: how?
00:09:26wodzBasically lcd_update() pushes our in mem framebuffer to lcd controller gram. You setup the region in gram and how gram pointer is incremented and then you push data. By changing how pointer is incremented during data push you can control where is gram data ends (ie with swapped x,y coordinates or upside down)
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01:58:25[Franklin]wodz (logs): how would I do this in practice
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02:12:11[Franklin]does a plugin need to explicitly release the audio buffer upon exiting?
02:21:31[Franklin]well, I guess I'll start working a Wolf3D port... xworld is largely done now
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02:52:57Day64is this the rockbox IRC?
02:54:23[Saint]It is.
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02:57:17Day64Think anyone here can save my mp3 player?
02:57:34Day64I'm pretty sure I've made it worse than it already was on my own.
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03:01:12user01are the sansa clip + and sansa clip zip the same under rockbox? −− eg i dont see any extra features i would get if i got one or the other
03:02:06[Franklin]user01: how far under?
03:02:15[Franklin]userspace is pretty similar
03:02:26user01$6 difference
03:02:32[Franklin]?
03:02:53user01oh thought you meant price
03:03:00user01difference
03:03:08[Franklin]user01: oh no
03:03:14[Franklin]I meant rockbox
03:03:28[Franklin]user01: yeah, they share some common code
03:03:31[Franklin]a lot actually
03:03:46[Franklin]but they're slightly different (i.e. b+w vs color)
03:03:49user01i meant as far as functionality . . . my ipod v5 died recently RIP
03:03:56[Franklin]user01: ohh
03:03:59[Franklin]well, you want color?
03:04:09user01i want audio :)
03:04:20[Franklin]audio?
03:04:22[Franklin]then the clip+ is for you
03:04:26user01yeah i mean it is a dap
03:04:33user01if one has better sound
03:04:43user01and longer battery life
03:04:54[Franklin]user01: I'm not sure about battery
03:05:05Day64Umm... I have a Fuze+ and I'm thinking I bricked it with out bricking it.
03:05:07user01i was thinking of a fiio device but saw no rockbox
03:05:31[Franklin]but clip+ has more processing power than almost every device
03:05:42[Franklin]240MHz
03:05:55[Franklin]though that shouldn't affect playback much if they're both running rockbox
03:06:11[Franklin]perhaps slightly better performance on crazy codecs (APE!)
03:06:11[Saint]The processing power is largely irrelevant.
03:06:20[Saint]Unless you're using insane APE.
03:06:21[Franklin][Saint]: indeed
03:06:30user01i just have large flac files
03:06:35user01anf oggs
03:06:38user01and
03:06:49[Franklin]user01: then yeah, it shouldn't matter
03:06:50[Saint]right, flac only needs like ~8MHz to decode in realtime.
03:07:35Day64I can still get into the Original Firmware, but the computer won't read it no matter what firmware it's running, and I inadvertantly erased rockbox but not the bootloader.
03:07:37[Saint]Myself, personally, ...I'd get another iPod Video.
03:07:59[Saint]Obviously it'll be second hand, but, if it was dear to you, snap one up while there's still some left.
03:08:03[Saint]They're getting rare.
03:08:15Day64I've surfed through the boards and other places for hours and have only made it worse.
03:09:05user01i didnt realize apple ws cutting the ipod classic line or i would have gotten one 160 GB at walmart
03:09:13user01they were like 199 i think
03:09:37Day64There's nothing I can do, is there.
03:09:38[Saint]get a second hand iPod Video 5.5G and put the MK2431GAH in it
03:09:53[Saint]240^B iPod Video ain't nothin to sneeze at.
03:09:56[Saint]*GB
03:10:21user01http://www.walmart.com/ip/Apple-iPod-classic-160GB-Refurbished/21142036 they still have it listed to mock me
03:11:36Day64Are my messages going through? Or am I being ignored cause I did something wrong. I'm probably not allowed to ask for help like that huh.
03:12:32[Saint]counting the new disk, and adding a new battery, plus the second hand iPod Video (and you'll need to get a "fat" back plate if you get one of the thin models), you'd be looking at around ~$260
03:12:50[Saint]Day64: no one is addressing you because no one is currently able to assist you, that's how this works.
03:13:05Day64Ah. Ok. I'm sorry.
03:13:15[Saint]If someone knows what's wrong, and can help, they'll do so.
03:13:24Day64I put a topic on the boards, But they don't seem very active.
03:13:29Day64I guess I'm kind of screwed.
03:14:11[Saint]These things can take some time. Support is very often not instantaneous.
03:14:52Day64I suppose I'll just wait and hope
03:14:59Day64My apologies for busting on here demanding help
03:15:05Day64Have a good night
03:15:17[Franklin]Day64: g'nite!
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03:16:50[Saint]user01: another option is iPod Video 5.5G thin, w/ an SSD.
03:16:52user01was the ipod really the greatest rockbox device?
03:17:04[Franklin]user01: it depends on who you ask :)
03:17:07[Franklin]to me, yes
03:17:11[Saint]Nah. Gigabeat S is.
03:17:13[Franklin]sansas are cheap plasticky junk
03:17:22user01i know, nice for travel though
03:17:40user01and yes cheap, but you can put 64GB on it i heard
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03:18:26[Saint]Can put a 512GB SSD in the iPod too...
03:18:44[Saint]Or 1TB, if you're Uncle Scrooge and have a huge vault of cash to dive in.
03:18:54[Franklin]lol
03:19:04[Franklin]perfect for xmastime
03:19:30[Franklin][Saint]: yes, the beast is the absolute greatest in terms of processing power
03:19:46[Saint]Its really well engineered too.
03:19:50[Saint]Its a well made device.
03:19:52[Franklin]really?
03:19:57[Saint]Yeah.
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03:19:59*[Franklin] has never had one
03:20:17[Saint]I need to fix mine.
03:22:17[Saint]A lot of my players are going to shit, actually.
03:22:31[Saint]Bad batteries, bulging caps. Just, age related disrepair.
03:22:37*[Franklin] hopes he can fix his c200
03:23:19[Saint]What happened to it?
03:23:49[Franklin]IDK
03:23:56[Franklin]that's the issue
03:23:58[Saint]:-/
03:24:01[Saint]Suck.
03:24:23[Franklin]and since it was neglected for so long, I've lost the cable
03:24:38user01seems like with the raspberry pi and beagle boards that there could just be an open hardware mp3 that kicks the butts of anything
03:24:59[Franklin](which can already run the UI sim :P)
03:25:43[Saint]user01: you'd think so, but, it makes a more expensively, shittily engineered product.
03:25:52[Saint]*expensive
03:26:20[Saint]the audio hardware on the raspberrypi's and BB sucks to a rather high order of magnitude.
03:26:36[Saint]and then there's form factor to consider. Portability, etc.
03:26:45[Saint]Display, battery...etc. etc. etc.
03:27:09[Franklin][Saint]: is there any way to use a 30-pin ipod cable with the c200?
03:27:18[Saint]No idea.
03:27:24[Franklin]aww
03:27:39*[Franklin] goes in search of the cable
03:27:40[Saint]I bet the pinouts are known by the interwebs though.
03:28:01[Franklin]of course
03:29:04*[Franklin] doesn't want to risk damage to the device
03:29:13[Franklin]I guess I'll just find the cable
03:33:39[Franklin][Saint]: at this point, what factors are preventing xworld from getting committed?
03:33:53[Franklin]obviously optimization an portability
03:33:56[Franklin]what else?
03:43:08user01what is the largest flac file rockbox can play?
03:43:25user01like sacd rip etc
03:44:27[Franklin]user01: largest?
03:44:44[Franklin]well, it'd be constrained by the FAT file size limit, which is 4GB
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18:15:21[Franklin]should I use "counterclockwise" (American English) or "anticlockwise" (British English)?
18:19:16[Franklin](in rockbox)
18:27:19[Franklin]almost everything seems to use counterclockwise
18:27:23[Franklin]except the rockblox manual
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19:59:07JordiGHpoint moving average'); xlabel('month'); ylabel('number of commits'); print -dpng lol.png; "
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19:59:13JordiGH:-(
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