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#rockbox log for 2014-12-19

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04:25:45foolshhas anyone updated git on the rockbox servers yet?
04:26:08foolsh"An attacker can craft a malicious Git tree that will cause Git to overwrite its own .git/config file when cloning or checking out a repository, leading to arbitrary command execution in the client machine"
04:26:30foolshoh wait nvm
04:26:30Ivoahfoolsh: That sounds bad
04:26:39foolsh"Linux clients are not affected if they run in a case-sensitive filesystem."
04:27:01foolshstill would hurt to have someone check
04:27:06foolshwouldn't
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05:56:15[Saint]foolsh: If I was going to target anything in the Rockbox ecosystem, it'd be the distributed build system.
05:56:55[Saint]You couldn't get very far, for very long, without being noticed, but you could have a Hell of a time while you were there.
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08:25:00natanelhowhat is md5sum
08:25:00natanelho?
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08:29:48natanelhocan some1 tell me how to install rb on creative zen?
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08:41:39natanelhowhat is md5sum?
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08:49:09shmibsnatanelho, an md5sum is a particular kind of hash
08:49:13shmibsa hash is a function
08:49:25shmibswhich takes a key value of arbitrary length
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08:49:52shmibsand maps it to some definite value
08:50:28shmibsan md5sum is an application of a hash used to verify that a file is the same after being copied to a new location
08:51:01shmibsit uses a hashing function which, if even just one or two bytes differ in the new file, will produce a radically different number
08:51:36shmibsthus, you can make sure that the entire file is exactly the same by verifying only two short strings against each other
08:52:03shmibsthere are multiple different source files that could map to that string
08:52:44shmibsif there weren't, it would have to be an archive algorithm that could somehow compress the entire file, no matter how large, into that small string :P
08:53:19shmibshowever, the function is designed so that those source files which map to the same string are all radically different from each other
08:55:38shmibsthis effectively takes care of the problem of a middle man somehow hiding code inside the file during its transfer, as any file that would match on the other end would A: take a very long time to discover and B: be unmodifiable from its state once discovered, thus rendering it just as useless to an attacker as it would be to the receiver
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08:59:29natanelhowhen i try to make bootloader for my creative zen, it says "MD5 sum doesn't match any known file"
08:59:39natanelhowhat that mean?
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09:00:01natanelhoand it says"Cannot determine model type"
09:00:19shmibswell, it doesn't recognise your player
09:00:20shmibs┐(¯-¯)┌
09:00:29natanelhoi followed all the steps on the guide and idk what to do...
09:00:37natanelhowhy should it?
09:00:46natanelhoi need to conect it to pc?
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09:01:50shmibsnatanelho, the creative zen is under "unusable" ports right now
09:02:11shmibshttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CreativeZENPort
09:02:29shmibsit's not yet supported by rbutil
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09:02:57natanelhoso how to install rb on it?
09:02:59shmibsif you want to install it, you'll have to do it manually
09:03:14natanelhoi do it manually...
09:03:20shmibstake a look at that page
09:04:13natanelhosmisb: i followed the steps on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CreativeZENPort
09:04:50natanelhodo i need to connect it to pc while compiling and all?
09:06:01shmibsi don't think so
09:06:29shmibsso you were compiling and selected Creative ZEN as your target platform?
09:06:57shmibs(also, sorry, i'm not actually a rockbox person, just somebody who happens to be awake right now)
09:07:42natanelhoi maked a folder at rockbox folder named "zenb"
09:08:02natanelhothen i compiled it
09:08:17natanelhochose "zen"(98)
09:08:38natanelhothen (bootloader"
09:08:46natanelhothen i runned "make"
09:08:58natanelhoand there was no problem
09:09:34shmibsok
09:09:44shmibsand then you made mkzenboot?
09:09:47natanelhothen i coppied the files from that folder to rbutil
09:10:02natanelhorbutil/mkzenboot
09:10:08natanelhothat what i meant
09:10:23natanelhosorry for m y poor english
09:10:42shmibsdon't apologise =)
09:10:57natanelhothen i entered the mkzenboot folder via terminal
09:11:57natanelhoah and i downloaded the exe of zen
09:12:59natanelhoand runned make in this foler befor
09:13:05natanelho*before
09:13:44natanelhoand then i runned the command in the guide
09:13:45natanelho./mkzenboot -i ZEN_PCFW_L22_1_21_03e.exe -b bootloader-zen.creative -o firmware.nk -t dualboot
09:14:11natanelhoand it sent me about 4 error messeges
09:14:38shmibsdid you try just using the version already built?
09:14:51shmibshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/cgqvrwr4qb3tb8u/firmware-zen.nk
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09:22:05natanelhowhat is it?
09:24:22shmibssomebody uploaded this for people so they don't have to build it themselves
09:24:36shmibsthere was a link on that wiki page
09:25:10wodznatanelho: basically you should hang around long enough to catch pamaury
09:25:16natanelhois thatr the latest version?
09:25:32shmibsi have no idea what version it is, but i doubt it
09:25:50wodzIt IS the latest version. pamaury uploaded it a few days ago
09:26:25wodzah wait, no he uploaded tool to upload
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09:32:03natanelhono it looks like its a year old
09:32:14natanelhohttps://www.dropbox.com/s/cgqvrwr4qb3tb8u/firmware-zen.nk
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09:47:51natanelhowodz can you help me?
09:48:17wodznatanelho: I know nothing about zen, sorry
09:48:45natanelhoand about building bootloader?
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09:50:49wodzwhat you mean by building? If compiling I know, if merging with firmware to be uploaded - I don't
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09:56:40natanelhoiu tried to run "./sendfirm firmware.nk" and it says "acces danied"... what to do?
09:58:04wodzrun as root
09:58:27wodzdo you use windows or linux?
09:59:32natanelhoi use vb with ubuntu
09:59:48natanelhoi dont know how to run as root
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10:00:25natanelhoi use the the cross compiler files from rockbox site
10:00:55wodzsudo ./something
10:01:10wodzwhen asked for password enter *your user password*
10:02:51natanelhowhat is the root pass at the rockbox image?
10:03:12wodzyou don't read what I write
10:03:29natanelhoi did
10:04:00wodzyou enter your user password not root's password
10:04:21natanelhoahh
10:04:34natanelhoi just did it and it says "sudo: sendfirm32: command not found"
10:05:08natanelhoi am inside the folder containing this senfirm32 file
10:06:13wodzsudo ./sendfirm32 ? (pay attention to ./ at the beginning)
10:06:14amiconnUse ./sendfirm , not just sendfirm. Current dir is not part of the path in *nix (by default and on purpose)
10:08:21natanelhoubuntu@ubuntu-VirtualBox:~/Downloads$ sudo ./sendfirm32 firmware.nk sudo: ./sendfirm32: command not found
10:08:53natanelhoi use
10:08:56natanelhosudo ./sendfirm32 firmware.nk
10:09:01natanelhoand it says
10:09:13natanelhosudo: ./sendfirm32: command not found
10:09:27wodzis the file executable? What ls -l sendfirm32 says?
10:10:23natanelhoit is .exe
10:10:41natanelhowhat do u mean saying "What ls -l sendfirm32 says?"
10:11:27wodzso how do you expect to run windows binary (which is .exe usually) on linux?
10:12:48natanelhoi run this file
10:12:49natanelhohttps://www.dropbox.com/s/mbyh162dytjeyak/sendfirm32?dl=0
10:13:03natanelhoidk whats its extention
10:13:26wodzso how it is .exe?
10:13:46wodzextensions doesn't matter on linux, file format does
10:13:54wodzend permissions
10:14:09natanelhowhattt???
10:14:19natanelhoim pretty new to linux
10:15:00natanelhowhat do U mean saying "end premission"?
10:15:08wodz*and
10:15:48wodzanyway, just type ls -l sendfirm32 and tell me what is the output
10:16:07natanelhoeven when i use "sudo -i" it doesnt work
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10:25:15natanelhowodz my internet crashed
10:25:43natanelhocan you tell me again how to do it all via windows?
10:26:34wodznatanelho: I don't use windows so I can't
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10:31:30natanelhoso what to do?
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10:33:40wodznatanelho: either cooperate with linux vm or work on your own
10:34:02natanelhook...
10:34:32natanelhobut EVERYTHING i do says "premission danied"
10:34:59wodzyou didn't post what is the output of ls -l sendfirm32, do you?
10:36:13natanelhoi did
10:36:45natanelho-l: command not found
10:37:35natanelhothats the output
10:37:50wodzls is the command, -l is the parameter
10:38:11wodzand it is for sure available in linux vm
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10:38:57natanelho-rw-rw-r−− 1 ubuntu ubuntu 8596 2014-12-19 09:50 sendfirm32
10:39:37natanelhothat is the output
10:40:30wodzright, it doesn't have execute permission bit set, thats why you can't run it
10:40:48wodztype chmod ugo+x sendfirm32
10:40:55wodzthis should fix it
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10:59:58wodzpamaury: If you are interested I created rockbox-atj213x branch on github and I am slowly adding code there.
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11:01:27pamauryyes, where is it ?
11:02:33wodzwodz/rockbox-atj213x">https://github.com/wodz/rockbox-atj213x
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11:09:25wodzI must say that _backlight_init() _backlight_on() _backlight_off() and _backlight_set_brightness() are pretty dumb names for target specific functions.
11:10:15wodzwhy not prefix it with device, target or something
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11:11:06wodzor suffix like in lcd_init_device()
11:15:12kugelhistory :)
11:16:01wodzwhy not change it :-)
11:16:53pamaurydangerous sentence ;)
11:17:13wodzlol
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13:21:43kugelwodz: do change it :)
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