Previous day | Jump to hour: 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 | Next day

Seconds: Show Hide | Joins: Show Hide | View raw
Font: Serif Sans-Serif Monospace | Size: Small Medium Large

Click in the nick column to highlight everything a person has said.
The Logo icon identifies that the person is a core developer (has commit access).

Notice: Only Gecko based browsers prior to FF4 support the multipart/mixed "server push" method used by this log reader to auto-update. Since you do not appear to use such a browser, this page will simply show the current log, and not automatically update.

#rockbox log for 2014-12-21

00:01:26 Join enyc [0] (~enyc@muddle.enyc.org.uk)
00:07:48 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection)
00:09:21 Quit y4n (Quit: Today is the perfect day for a perfect day.)
00:13:07 Quit ender` (Quit: The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.)
00:14:19 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving)
00:27:41 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@ip25055609.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)
00:27:41 Quit kugel (Changing host)
00:27:42 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel)
00:29:13 Quit kugel (Client Quit)
00:32:39 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@ip25055609.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)
00:32:39 Quit kugel (Changing host)
00:32:39 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel)
00:32:41 Quit kugel (Client Quit)
00:42:13 Join RiDD [0] (~RiD@bl22-56-171.dsl.telepac.pt)
00:42:25***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
00:54:07 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
00:55:51 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-039-006.triad.res.rr.com)
00:59:40 Join sakax [0] (~sakax@unaffiliated/sakax)
01:00
01:35:38 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection)
01:49:40 Join williamtdr [0] (uid27909@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jhexrpludgughlxe)
02:00
02:05:18 Quit Zambezi (Remote host closed the connection)
02:16:11 Quit RiDD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.)
02:34:19foolsh[Saint]: Ug I can't even use that thing well enough to name a save file for rockboy, I alway name it aaaaaaa, and hope I can figure out how to "return from" instead of "exit from" the darn thing
02:34:52[Saint]y'know, we have a fine manual for that...
02:34:53[Saint];)
02:35:14foolshI should just print it out and carry it around huh?
02:35:18foolsh:)
02:35:24[Saint]foolsh: but, honestly, are you seriously suggesting that either one of the alternate suggestions is any better?
02:36:10[Saint]multi-tap input, scrollwheel, or you (god I hope you were joking) Fuze+ touchpad suggestion.
02:36:42foolshyes, in good humor obviously
02:37:19foolshBut it doesn't make the text input any more intuitive
02:37:31foolshneeds better text input
02:39:32ZincAlloyworks great for me. I can't imagine anything easier to use..
02:42:03ZincAlloyone does need a good keyboard layout, though. the default one has too many characters to be useable.
02:42:27***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
02:42:34foolshthis ^
02:42:55ZincAlloyeasy fix.
02:44:42 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit.)
02:50:46 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint)
02:52:12 Quit [Saint] (Client Quit)
02:54:56 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.)
02:55:24 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint)
02:58:49[Saint]ZincAlloy: foolsh: I assume both of you are aware of custom .kbd files?
02:59:02[Saint]if not, its manual time.
03:00
03:00:09 Quit sakax (Remote host closed the connection)
03:00:28[Saint]ZincAlloy: foolsh: I assume both of you are aware of custom .kbd files?
03:00:29[Saint]if not, its manual time.
03:00:31[Saint]ZincAlloy: foolsh: I assume both of you are aware of custom .kbd files?
03:00:32[Saint]if not, its manual time.
03:00:33 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@kyle.tk)
03:00:42[Saint]eeek - really quassel?
03:00:49[Saint]really? :-S
03:03:47foolshDamn, [Saint] I get it!!
03:03:54foolshI'll read the manual
03:03:59foolsh:)
03:04:47 Quit the-kyle (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
03:05:42[Franklin]lol
03:08:53 Quit yuriks (Remote host closed the connection)
03:10:20 Join yuriks [0] (~quassel@opentyrian/developer/yuriks)
03:38:15 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon)
03:40:23 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
03:52:27 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-49-22.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net)
03:52:27 Quit JdGordon (Changing host)
03:52:27 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon)
03:53:21 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
04:00
04:09:27 Quit Provel (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
04:17:12 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
04:19:11 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-039-006.triad.res.rr.com)
04:26:41 Join Provel [0] (~Provel@75-132-21-111.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)
04:28:26 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon)
04:29:44 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
04:39:16 Quit [Franklin] (Remote host closed the connection)
04:40:48 Nick dongs_ is now known as dongs (~dongs@bcas.tv)
04:42:28***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
05:00
05:03:09 Quit yuriks (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
05:05:30 Join yuriks [0] (~quassel@opentyrian/developer/yuriks)
05:26:22 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@kyle.tk)
05:35:17 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
05:36:36 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven)
06:00
06:01:35 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-218-59.mcn.bellsouth.net)
06:42:07 Quit Galois (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
06:42:30***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
07:00
07:01:48 Join dfkt_ [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt)
07:01:57 Quit dfkt (Disconnected by services)
07:02:12 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt)
07:02:36 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
07:22:05 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-211-31.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net)
07:22:05 Quit JdGordon (Changing host)
07:22:05 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon)
07:23:47 Quit JdGordon_ (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
08:00
08:42:33***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
09:00
09:02:02 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC13787.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
09:14:33 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur)
09:52:43 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
10:00
10:07:01 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela)
10:18:30 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
10:39:01 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury)
10:42:36***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
10:46:25 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@80.67.9.35)
10:52:56 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik)
10:57:46 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela)
10:58:29 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
10:58:50 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela)
11:00
11:00:04 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@ip25055609.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)
11:00:13 Quit kugel (Changing host)
11:00:13 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel)
11:02:52 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
11:37:41 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@m180.dkm.cz)
11:45:25 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@i16-les01-ntr-212-194-176-149.sfr.lns.abo.bbox.fr)
11:48:53 Quit enyc (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
11:49:01 Join enyc [0] (~enyc@muddle.enyc.org.uk)
12:00
12:07:54 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador)
12:23:39 Nick mazzoo_ is now known as mazzoo (~mazzoo@country.muc2.m.ario.land)
12:29:51 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP)
12:42:40***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
13:00
13:48:35 Quit Scr0mple (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
13:50:29 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@27.127.199.230)
14:00
14:07:20 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EE9DEF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
14:07:53ZincAlloy[Saint]: Yes, I'm using a custom keyboard layout. :)
14:18:15 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC119B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
14:28:51 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
14:29:00 Quit enyc (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
14:42:42***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
14:46:04 Join enyc [0] (~enyc@muddle.enyc.org.uk)
14:46:48 Quit lebellium (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
14:47:44 Quit krabador (Quit: Take the time.)
14:56:22 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela)
15:00
15:00:45 Quit enyc (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
15:10:29 Quit Ketturi (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)
15:12:40 Join enyc [0] (~enyc@legacy-internet-svc.enyc.org.uk)
15:34:35 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
15:35:45 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-199-99.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net)
15:35:45 Quit JdGordon (Changing host)
15:35:45 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon)
15:45:02 Quit bertrik (Read error: No route to host)
15:45:10 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection)
15:45:21 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik)
15:49:25 Join Ketturi [0] (ketturi@hilla.kapsi.fi)
15:51:55 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca)
15:54:08 Quit Galois (Remote host closed the connection)
15:54:25 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca)
16:00
16:09:45 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx)
16:13:15 Part inf ("Tak.")
16:29:44 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP)
16:37:04 Join thomasjfox [0] (~thomasjfo@rockbox/developer/thomasjfox)
16:42:46***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
16:57:36 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection)
17:00
17:01:40 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection)
17:12:03 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org)
17:26:18 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP)
17:26:51 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@unaffiliated/franklin)
17:26:58 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador)
17:27:24[Franklin]foolsh: argh
17:27:29[Franklin]the font is copyrighted too
17:27:34[Franklin]in video_data.c
17:29:29 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@unaffiliated/thelemonman)
17:40:23 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@i16-les01-ntr-212-194-176-149.sfr.lns.abo.bbox.fr)
17:46:13 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@53563CA6.cm-6-7a.dynamic.ziggo.nl)
17:46:13 Quit bertrik (Changing host)
17:46:13 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik)
17:48:20 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC)
18:00
18:04:38 Quit bertrik (Quit: Lost terminal)
18:18:03[Franklin]foolsh: I'm thinking of using a Rockbox font
18:40:41 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-218-59.mcn.bellsouth.net)
18:42:49***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
19:00
19:23:52[Franklin]foolsh: I've got Rockfont converted into the format that xworld uses
19:24:02[Franklin]but... it's rotated 90 deg
19:27:54 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@53563CA6.cm-6-7a.dynamic.ziggo.nl)
19:27:54 Quit bertrik (Changing host)
19:27:55 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik)
19:28:52 Quit Ketturi (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
19:38:39 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@i16-les01-ntr-212-194-176-149.sfr.lns.abo.bbox.fr)
19:39:29 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
19:39:31 Quit [Franklin] (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
19:39:35 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@i16-les01-ntr-212-194-176-149.sfr.lns.abo.bbox.fr)
19:41:00 Join [Franklin] [0] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-039-006.triad.res.rr.com)
19:42:21[Franklin]foolsh: alright, got that bug worked out
19:42:34[Franklin]now some way to load the original font
19:59:11[Saint]I'm willing to bet that people won't care too much about loading the original strings and/or fonts.
19:59:52[Franklin]but then there's those that are total fanatics about authenticity
20:00
20:01:09[Saint]yeah, that's true...and they're likely to be playing it.
20:01:40[Franklin]I don't think people care about the font, honestly
20:01:47[Franklin]but they might about the strings
20:02:06[Franklin]Rockfont looks ugly
20:02:26[Franklin]perhaps Fixed?
20:06:47[Franklin]ah... that's even worse!
20:09:55[Saint]all the bitmap Rockbox fonts look hideous in small glyph heights.
20:10:03[Saint]pick one, they're all terrible.
20:10:22[Franklin]10-Fixed looks much better
20:11:00[Franklin]but 1 pixel too big in the code wheel screen
20:11:04[Franklin]I'll try 09-Fixed
20:11:13[Saint]clusterfuck multi-height/scalable antialiased fonts in there!
20:11:32*[Saint] runs
20:13:16[Franklin]ugh... 09-Fixed is too small
20:13:27[Franklin]currently 10-Fixed looks like the best option
20:14:59[Franklin]Saznami-Mincho is a quarter million lines long!!!
20:15:16[Saint]have a look at GNU-Unifont
20:15:22[Saint]you'll shit your pants.
20:15:53[Saint]that has hundreds of thousands of glyphs from memory.
20:16:09[Franklin]mincho is too narrow
20:16:37[Franklin]what font doesn't have serifs?
20:16:59gevaertsAny sans-serif font!
20:17:06[Saint]derp.
20:17:20[Saint]'sans' is a non-obvious word meaning, though, granted.
20:17:25[Saint]rarely used today.
20:17:30[Franklin]profont is /only/ 4400 lines long! :D
20:17:38[Franklin]size is relative
20:36:50[Franklin]ugh... lowercase 10-point chars look cut off
20:37:01[Franklin]I guess I'll stick with 08-Fixed
20:37:54 Join RiD [0] (~RiD@bl22-56-171.dsl.telepac.pt)
20:38:36 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
20:39:57[Franklin]or... perhaps I could mix the two
20:40:10[Franklin]take uppercase from 10-Fixed, and others from 08-Fixed
20:42:46ZincAlloymaybe these will work for you? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,43286.0.html
20:42:50***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
20:44:05[Franklin]I'm trying to find ones that look like the original
20:44:11[Franklin]so they'd be about square
20:44:19ZincAlloyah. what's the original?
20:44:21[Franklin]8x8 max size
20:44:38[Franklin]http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48586.0;attach=6585;image
20:45:02ZincAlloyoh, very small
20:45:08ZincAlloymaybe roll your own: http://www.pentacom.jp/pentacom/bitfontmaker2/
20:46:00[Franklin]very nice!
20:46:42[Franklin]too bad it exports TTF
20:46:42[Saint]err...don't we have our own bitfont conversion tools?
20:46:52[Franklin][Saint]: yes, but this is pretty nice too
20:47:07ZincAlloythey convert nicely if you select the right size
20:47:20ZincAlloythat's how I created mine ;)
20:49:10[Saint]convbdf and convttf are both pretty fundamentally broken.
20:49:32[Saint]I'm fairly confident there's a ttf2rb tool as well, though, that doesn't such.
20:50:29 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela)
20:55:31 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
20:56:31[Franklin]I'm making my own font hybrid since I can't find a single font that looks exactly like the original
20:56:44[Franklin]lowercase from 08-Fixed, all others from 10-Fixed
21:00
21:01:32ZincAlloyor search for something suitable here: http://www.pentacom.jp/pentacom/bitfontmaker2/gallery/?order=recent many of these are public domain
21:02:48[Franklin]nah, I got this ;)
21:05:51ZincAlloy:)
21:07:26[Franklin]just the lowercase looks terrible
21:07:29[Franklin]uppercase is fine
21:07:45 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC119B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
21:09:30 Quit krabador (Quit: Take the time.)
21:12:15 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
21:18:15[Franklin]ok, pushed that
21:20:11[Franklin]gevaerts: merge?
21:21:14*[Franklin] hopes he doesn't have to change the copyright to 2015! :)
21:22:59 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela)
21:27:54 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
21:39:14 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela)
21:43:51 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
21:47:53 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection)
21:50:17 Quit y4n (Quit: We're fucking 3LN!)
22:00
22:09:15 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
22:11:00 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@i16-les01-ntr-212-194-176-149.sfr.lns.abo.bbox.fr)
22:11:41 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela)
22:16:03 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
22:42:54***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
22:57:35 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
23:00
23:00:51 Quit TheLemonMan (Remote host closed the connection)
23:06:19 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik)
23:11:25 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother)
23:13:12 Quit thomasjfox (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
23:14:54 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
23:47:20 Quit ender` (Quit: I always wanted to have a job in construction or at a hardware store just so I could eat some pink cotton candy in front of someone in a situation that would make them think I was eating fiberglass insulation.-- Chris Hallbeck)

Previous day | Next day