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| 02:18:51 | [Franklin] | GDB is driving me crazy... all the variables I need are all "<optimized out>" |
| 02:18:55 | [Franklin] | any tips? |
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| 02:29:52 | JdGordon | [Franklin]: turn off optimization |
| 02:31:52 | [Franklin] | I just put some volatiles in, thanks anyway |
| 02:34:39 | [Franklin] | it gets weirder... I have a function called wrap_idx defined as just static |
| 02:34:57 | [Franklin] | I try calling it from GDB and it says "No symbol 'wrap_idx' in current context." |
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| 02:38:50 | rudi_s | [Franklin]: Inlining? |
| 02:39:20 | [Franklin] | rudi_s: no (explicit) inline |
| 02:39:37 | rudi_s | static functions are inlined by gcc in many cases. |
| 02:39:42 | [Franklin] | anyway, I just put in some logf's that showed the return value |
| 02:39:47 | [Franklin] | wasn't that |
| 02:39:56 | rudi_s | You could force gcc to keep it in the binary with -fkeep-inline-functions |
| 02:40:13 | [Franklin] | ok, thanks |
| 02:40:18 | rudi_s | *though the actual callers will still use the inlined code of course. |
| 02:40:38 | [Franklin] | I'm trying to optimize the rocklife plugin a bit |
| 02:41:08 | rudi_s | (Or you could forbid gcc to inline it by putting __attribute__((noinline)) to the function.) |
| 02:41:18 | [Franklin] | interesting |
| 02:41:32 | rudi_s | But yeah, disabling optimizations while debugging is the simplest solution. |
| 02:43:11 | [Franklin] | it doesn't seem to be the wrapping function |
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| 12:36:41 | bernard_ | Hello all. Looking for some help in resetting a corrupted iPod 6th Gen Classic. Had installed EmCORE & Rockbox, worked fine for ages now shut down and giving errors. Tried repartitioning & fallback, tried uninstalling, tried simply formatting and also tried just reinstalling EmCORE. Nothing seems to work. Help?! |
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| 12:45:30 | TheSeven | bernard_: so what does it do? any error messages? |
| 12:46:08 | TheSeven | without any of that information I can only guess, and statistically the most likely cause for your problem is a broken HDD |
| 12:48:00 | bernard_ | Hi. Yes, when I go through the EmCORE process again it finds the DFU drive but then when I run the .ubi it says Error formatting hard drive: 80000001C |
| 12:48:34 | bernard_ | The hard drive is relatively new, not that that means much on an Apple! |
| 12:49:39 | TheSeven | that's some error while writing sector 0 of that drive, let me check the details |
| 12:49:50 | TheSeven | which emcore revision? |
| 12:50:33 | bernard_ | emCORE r859 (2012-01-02) The original error on the device when it was running Rockbox was and ATA error I think, but I can't see it anymore so.... |
| 12:52:16 | TheSeven | which HDD model? 160GB thin? |
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| 12:53:52 | TheSeven | the error number indicates that the HDD took too long to respond to a write to sector 0 |
| 12:54:09 | bernard_ | I think so. Same thickness at the 7th Gen |
| 12:54:29 | TheSeven | however that emcore revision has a bug that makes errors at an earlier point go unnoticed, so it could also be possible that the drive wasn't even initialized properly in the first place |
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| 12:55:10 | TheSeven | any sounds from the hdd? does it spin up? any periodic clicking noise? |
| 12:55:25 | TheSeven | (while emcore is trying to format) |
| 12:56:32 | bernard_ | I'll try that now and let you know. It certainly makes the 'usual' noises when putting into hard reset / DFU |
| 12:57:36 | thomasjfox | TheSeven: can you take a look at this: [rockbox/firmware/target/arm/s5l8700/ipodnano2g/piezo-nano2g.c:32]: (warning) Redundant assignment of 'TDCON' to itself. |
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| 13:00:35 | bernard_ | TheSeven: When I run 'bootstrap...' to get to that point it says connected device not functioning properly. It asked my to format it at 64mb, which I did, and it was instantaneous. MInd you, I'd got to that step before so it was probably already formatted. |
| 13:01:42 | TheSeven | thomasjfox: wtf? that thing is all but redundant... it's volatile, the compiler has to actually DO that, and otherwise the ipod would lock up |
| 13:01:48 | thomasjfox | TheSeven: does the register TDCON change some value when it's read so that stuff is cleared when it written back? |
| 13:02:13 | TheSeven | there are IRQ flags in that reg that get cleared if you write a 1 to them |
| 13:02:22 | TheSeven | (and report pending status when read) |
| 13:02:33 | thomasjfox | ah ok. Thanks for the clarification. Already suspected something like that |
| 13:02:38 | thomasjfox | cppcheck can't know this ;) |
| 13:02:54 | TheSeven | it can, and that looks like a cppcheck bug |
| 13:03:06 | TheSeven | because this thing is explicitly declared volatile to indicate that it isn't redundant |
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| 13:04:11 | TheSeven | bernard_: weird, the 64mb drive shouldn't ask you to format it, and I'm suprised that it still works after doing so (it's a ramdisk that should already be formatted in a specific way) |
| 13:04:47 | TheSeven | what matters is when the installer tries to format the disk |
| 13:05:32 | bernard_ | OK. I've tried reformatting using iTunes too and it fails. Any ideas??! |
| 13:06:13 | bernard_ | The device is currently saying it's 'Loading UBI file...' and has been for 5 mins. |
| 13:06:21 | TheSeven | pretty surely a bad hdd, but could also be something like a mis-seated cable or whatever |
| 13:06:38 | TheSeven | stuck at loading ubi file could be the result of attempting to format the 64mb drive |
| 13:06:46 | bernard_ | Hmmmm.....OK, so guess |
| 13:06:54 | TheSeven | what's currently on that ipod? apple bootloader? |
| 13:07:18 | TheSeven | if so, try to boot into diagmode (menu+select, then immediately when it reboots, left+select) |
| 13:07:38 | bernard_ | No, EmCORE Rockbox. Well, it was but I've been trying various things to solve it. Shall I still try that? |
| 13:07:39 | TheSeven | then go to manual test => I/O => HDD => HDD SMART data or something like that |
| 13:09:14 | bernard_ | Ok, done that. What am I looking for? |
| 13:09:27 | thomasjfox | TheSeven: I'm still wondering if it's better to warn the user in the volatile case or not. Quite often someone wanted to write "y = x" instead of "x = x", no matter if a normal variable is volatile or not |
| 13:09:31 | TheSeven | hm... in that case you have two options: 1. go back to the apple bootloader to get into diagmode, 2. upload diagmode via umsboot (probably easiest if it works), 3. upload a newer emcore via umsboot, then use it's disk mode app + smartmontools to inspect the HDD (complicated but gives more information) |
| 13:10:08 | TheSeven | if you're in diagmode in that SMART menu, just tell me what it says on the screen (remaps, pending, retracts, ...) |
| 13:10:20 | bernard_ | I'm in the Apple boot and have SMART DATA up. |
| 13:10:57 | TheSeven | thomasjfox: well, it might be an option to do a uint32_t tdcon = TDCON; TDCON = tdcon; there |
| 13:11:11 | TheSeven | if that shuts up that spurious warning ;) |
| 13:11:24 | TheSeven | should (with -O2/-Os) compile into the same code |
| 13:11:34 | TheSeven | bernard_: so what does it say on that screen? |
| 13:11:41 | thomasjfox | na, that's not worth it. It's better to improve cppcheck than to work around that in the code |
| 13:11:58 | TheSeven | well depends on whether you consider that a valid warning in the volatile case |
| 13:12:52 | bernard_ | Retracts:8, Reallocs:0, Pending Secs:0, PowerOn Hours:85, Start/stops:6064, Temp current:24c, Temp Min:7c, Temp Max,:43c |
| 13:13:14 | thomasjfox | it could output a different warning if it knows a variable is volatile. There's an extra "inconclusive" category for messages it's unsure about |
| 13:18:53 | TheSeven | bernard_: that information is not conclusive with emcore's behavior... |
| 13:19:26 | TheSeven | diagmode basically says that the drive is good, emcore can't seem to access it at all |
| 13:19:38 | TheSeven | you might want to try restoring the ipod using itunes (from DFU mode) |
| 13:19:42 | bernard_ | TheSeven: Oh. Just a thought but could there just be corrupt sectors and so is there a way to somehow force the HDD to format outside of any software application to see if we can reset it? |
| 13:19:50 | TheSeven | just to see if that works or fails as well |
| 13:20:00 | bernard_ | I've tried that. I'll try again. |
| 13:20:18 | TheSeven | ok, so an itunes restore flashed the apple bootloader, booted into disk mode, but then failed to format? |
| 13:22:39 | lorenzo92 | can anyone give a look at this licence here https://github.com/lwalkera/lwBT ? There is some good code and I would like to reuse at least part of it in Rockbox |
| 13:22:47 | lorenzo92 | I'm always for reuse ;) |
| 13:23:32 | bernard_ | Yes to Apple, comes up as removable disk on 'my computer' with iPod icon, iTunes says it needs to reformat (devices shows 'do not disconnect'), clicked on format (to 95..9GB) and it immedaitely says 'fomatted' |
| 13:24:19 | bernard_ | Nothing showing in iTunes but shows a 95.9gb HDD with iPod icon in my computer |
| 13:24:33 | bernard_ | Device still says 'Do not disconnect' |
| 13:27:12 | TheSeven | 95.9GB... WTF? |
| 13:27:56 | TheSeven | can you read/write any files on that 95GB drive? |
| 13:28:01 | bernard_ | I know. That was the option it gave me. |
| 13:28:26 | TheSeven | but it is a 160GB disk? this is getting even more fishy... |
| 13:29:11 | bernard_ | I can copy things to the device. SHall I try going through EmCORE again? |
| 13:30:54 | TheSeven | you're on windows, right? |
| 13:31:17 | bernard_ | Right. |
| 13:31:51 | TheSeven | can you run the "diskpart" utility, then type "list disk", and tell me which size it reports there for the disk that seems to be the ipod? |
| 13:34:23 | bernard_ | DISK 0 - 465gb, DISK 1 - 148gb |
| 13:35:13 | TheSeven | "select disk 1" - "list partition" |
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| 13:37:03 | bernard_ | partition 1 primary 95gb offset 252kb |
| 13:37:40 | TheSeven | "clean", and confirm if it asks you to |
| 13:37:47 | TheSeven | then retry itunes restore |
| 13:39:46 | bernard_ | succeeded in cleaning. Appears to be restoring.... |
| 13:42:07 | bernard_ | Appeared to be restoring but now just sat there now not doing anything but device saying 'Do not disconnect' |
| 13:42:41 | TheSeven | does the ipod appear in explorer? |
| 13:42:50 | TheSeven | if so, which size? |
| 13:43:16 | bernard_ | Yes, 148gb |
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| 13:43:38 | TheSeven | so we got that nonsense sorted out at least... |
| 13:44:04 | bernard_ | Indeed, thanks! Comes up as an IPOD again now too |
| 13:44:43 | TheSeven | so itunes is still sitting there, doing nothing? |
| 13:44:53 | bernard_ | Yep. Hard reboot? |
| 13:45:07 | TheSeven | maybe it's still downloading the firmware image from apple? that thing is like 150-200MB in size |
| 13:46:17 | bernard_ | Maybe and I'm only using 3G so..., I'll sit tight for a bit and let you know in 10 mins if nothing happens. OK? |
| 13:46:49 | TheSeven | sounds like a plan |
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| 13:54:13 | bernard_ | TheSeven: Still no change on the device or iTunes |
| 13:55:31 | TheSeven | but you can successfully copy files to it in explorer? |
| 13:56:11 | TheSeven | in that case I'd try installing emcore again |
| 13:56:25 | bernard_ | Yes, just copied the .ubi to it OK |
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| 13:58:12 | bernard_ | I'll try EmCORE again and let you know. |
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| 14:10:49 | bernard_ | The Seven: So...got to final point of installation in EmCORE using Rockbox Utility but then when it was extrating files it said that there wasn't enough space and aborted. |
| 14:12:37 | bernard_ | Still shows me the device in my computer but says it's inaccessible 'Please insert as disk in into D:' |
| 14:14:33 | bernard_ | When I hard reset it the device shows 'ATA: Error 80000007 whilse reading BBT (sector 0, count 1)' which I think was the original error I got when it first jammed. |
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| 14:33:57 | TheSeven | bernard_: this is an original ipod hdd? has it ever been replaced? |
| 14:34:49 | bernard_ | Yes it has |
| 14:34:54 | bernard_ | A few times |
| 14:35:48 | TheSeven | hm... so maybe after all you have a different type of disk than most other ipods... |
| 14:36:38 | TheSeven | can you try reinstalling emcore using this ubi file? theseven.homenet.org/~theseven/tmp/installer-ipodclassic-with-all-patches.ubi">http://theseven.homenet.org/~theseven/tmp/installer-ipodclassic-with-all-patches.ubi |
| 14:41:07 | bernard_ | Gave me a few errors along the way and now device saying 'No partition found Insert USB cable to fix it' |
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| 14:41:27 | TheSeven | with rockbox fallback image? |
| 14:41:57 | TheSeven | if not, try that one |
| 14:43:10 | bernard_ | both |
| 14:44:25 | bernard_ | Should I maybe go back some steps and format / clean the partition and then try with your .ubi? |
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| 15:27:06 | bernard_ | The Seven: Got to quit soon to go to work. Any final thoughts? |
| 15:27:24 | bernard_ | TheSeven: Got to quit soon to go to work. Any final thoughts? |
| 15:35:40 | TheSeven | I doubt that will help... |
| 15:36:00 | TheSeven | with the apple bootloader installed you cannot access the full HDD via USB, and emcore has trouble doing so either for some reason |
| 15:37:04 | TheSeven | I have no idea what the root cause is so far, but we ruled out the current leak thing that we had observed with some 3rd party HDDs |
| 15:37:43 | TheSeven | further narrowing this down will likely require to set up an emcore development environment |
| 15:38:28 | bernard_ | Ok, well thanks for all your help and time this afternoon |
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| 17:21:05 | lorenzo92 | kugel: g#707 |
| 17:21:10 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #707 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/707 : yp-r0: improve the charging code by Lorenzo Miori |
| 17:21:16 | lorenzo92 | I would like to commit it .... |
| 17:23:13 | thomasjfox | lorenzo92: kugel is idle since six days, don't hold your breath :D might take a few more days or so |
| 17:23:31 | lorenzo92 | np ;) |
| 17:23:37 | lorenzo92 | just a reminder ^^ |
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| 17:28:24 | lorenzo92 | anyone against enabling dbg_hw_info for every target? If dbg_hw_info is not suitable, then it's just a stub. I'm the situtation of enabling debug screen for some hosted devices... |
| 17:29:01 | [Franklin] | thomasjfox: G#908 seems like your kind of patch :D |
| 17:29:06 | lorenzo92 | or, otherwise, change the way it is used or not. i.e. definitely not by checking PLATFORM_NATIVE |
| 17:29:23 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #908 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/908 : Cleanup whitespace and made indentation consistent across the code by Franklin Wei |
| 17:29:42 | [Franklin] | 90KLOC, all autogenerated |
| 17:31:13 | [Franklin] | and quite possibly the biggest patch gerrit has ever seen |
| 17:31:14 | lorenzo92 | who said LOC have a measurable cost... |
| 17:31:24 | lorenzo92 | :D |
| 17:34:01 | thomasjfox | [Franklin]: huh? I wouldn't favor applying such a patch for the reasons the people already gave in the comments of it. |
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| 17:47:10 | [Franklin] | thomasjfox: I thought you might want to do something similar |
| 17:47:36 | thomasjfox | that would break merging branches and/or upstream code ;) |
| 17:49:00 | [Franklin] | probably not on as large a scale as G#908, of course |
| 17:49:18 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #908 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/908 : Cleanup whitespace and made indentation consistent across the code by Franklin Wei |
| 17:50:13 | [Franklin] | maybe on a file-by-file basis like you're doing with cppcheck |
| 17:51:07 | thomasjfox | I'm fixing code bugs, not beauty bugs ;) |
| 17:51:44 | [Franklin] | G#1119 says otherwise :P |
| 17:51:49 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #1119 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1119 : Improve readability by adding parenthesis by Thomas Jarosch |
| 17:52:27 | thomasjfox | that one is special: It's hard to "parse" while reading it since it's not very obvious which statements get executed first |
| 17:53:00 | [Franklin] | alright then :) |
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| 21:13:25 | * | [Saint] had a feeling OP wouldn;t be replying to http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,50131.msg233167.html#msg233167 but was still hopeful. |
| 21:13:57 | [Saint] | FWIW, I tried to not be a /complete/ prick about OP wasting everyone's time... |
| 21:14:09 | [Saint] | Not sure it worked, but, I tried. ;) |
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| 21:39:03 | thomasjfox | [Saint]: I think it worked pretty good, at least with the "EDIT:" part :D |
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| 21:39:35 | [Saint] | any advice on http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,50280.msg233214.html#msg233214 ? :) |
| 21:39:50 | [Saint] | I'm always wary with "this is YOUR fault" type posts. |
| 21:40:22 | [Saint] | The user isn't necessarily /wrong/, but is making things a lot harder than need be. |
| 21:41:10 | * | [Saint] is only really particularly good at ralating to people who are at least somewhat aware of the fact that he isn't *always* intentionally being cold and asshole-ish. |
| 21:42:43 | thomasjfox | that last forum post sounds nice, too. |
| 21:43:09 | [Saint] | Thank you. If you only knew how long it took me to write some forum posts. ;) |
| 21:43:26 | [Saint] | Write; delete; re-word - rinse, repeat...xN. |
| 21:44:05 | thomasjfox | practice makes perfect ;) |
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| 21:51:15 | * | [Saint] wonders if there's a sane way to stop the database init from choking if there's no media present on the device. |
| 21:51:28 | [Saint] | It is a weird, non-obvious, and incredibly long standing issue. |
| 21:52:20 | [Saint] | Unfortunately I don't have any idea of how to fix or side-step this issue, however. |
| 21:53:39 | [Saint] | It seems to have been pushed aside as somewhat of a back burner issue, db init failing if no media is encountered is totally natural, but the method in which it fails and the fact that it presents zero information to the user about this is completely misleading. |
| 21:53:53 | [Saint] | ...but historically people seem to fear tagcache. |
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