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#rockbox log for 2015-01-12

00:00:54[Saint]setup an account, with a Real Name, and I will be happy to give you wiki edit rights.
00:04:06KarmadealerThanks Saint, I have read that, but I prefer not to register, only want to share this for someone who can update the list with it, since I have made it for my player tonight.
00:05:31[Saint]If you provide me with a download link that will stay live for at least ~24h or so, or pastebin the contents of your .fmr file contents, then I would be able to do so in the very near future.
00:05:51[Saint]However, I would prefer to have a real name to attribute authorship to.
00:06:01KarmadealerNice. May i copy here the txt?
00:06:19[Saint]Not here, no.
00:07:22[Saint]Your efforts are appreciated.
00:11:07KarmadealerI hope this works now
00:11:14[Saint]To whom may I attribute this?
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00:11:49KarmadealerBudapest Guy, or so. does not matter.
00:12:06[Saint]Very well. Thank you. It is appreciated.
00:13:20KarmadealerThese are the actual stations in my city. The only relevant thing is the date, because year by year some changes may happen
00:14:40[Saint]Yes. I understand. We like to acknowledge contributors to the community, but this is not something all people are comfortable with. Even if I don't particularly understand the sentiment myself.
00:16:12KarmadealerIt's not something worth a bow, or so. Only some text editing. :-)
00:18:15saratoga_FWIW there are actually global maps of FM radio station coverage:
00:18:31saratoga_it probably wouldn't be too hard to just write script that generated presets for any location
00:18:56[Saint]Oh, sure, but the odds of that happening are relatively slim.
00:19:14[Saint]in the interim, we have people like this guy, who's efforts are very much appreciated.
00:19:33KarmadealerSaratoga, that's just the same thing I was thinkinkg of
00:19:55[Franklin]the real issue would be not ddos'ing the site :D
00:20:01saratoga_maybe one already exists on the web?
00:20:07KarmadealerI don't mean If I could write that script, only the idea.
00:21:21saratoga_would be easy to have a perl script query that database and save the results to an mp3 player for instance
00:26:32KarmadealerRidiculously, there is no actual FM station list, which keeps more or less updated station lists of the cities worldwide. I tried but it's outdated and missing a lot of stations
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00:32:53[Saint],50503.msg233540.html#msg233540 <−− too cock-ish?
00:33:09*[Saint] should really stop doubting himself
00:33:18[Saint]I re-wrote that post like seven times...
00:35:06[Saint]I didn't want to devolve the conversation into an argument, but I *do* want to clarify that our definition of good sound quality and his seem to differ quite vastly.
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00:50:42KarmadealerBye guys. Have a nice week!
00:51:10[Franklin]\o Karmadealer
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00:53:17[Franklin]foolsh: xracer now supports rendering hills and curves
00:53:30[Franklin]it doesn't have code to generate them, though
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01:27:33*[Franklin] starts working on loadable maps
01:30:08[Franklin]'cause runtime generation is too slow
01:33:47[Saint]it shouldn't be.
01:34:34[Saint]This is a thing much slower devices have been doing almost since the dawn of electronic gaming.
01:35:52[Franklin]for convincing curve generation I'd need trig functions and similar
01:36:50[Franklin]otherwise I'm looking at loadable maps
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02:14:14[Franklin]ok... hacked together some terrible-looking world generation
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03:11:12[Saint]drawing a bunch of polys and cobbling them together?
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08:56:42wodzpamaury: ping
08:56:48pamaurywodz: pong
08:58:53wodzpamaury: I don't quite get how hwstub data abort protecting work. set_data_abort_jump() stores context in static buf and by default returns 0, data_abort_handler() restores the context from the buf but due to prefetching PC points to actual PC+8 which changes r0 to 1.
08:59:34pamauryand it returns to the calling point of set_data_abort_jump()
09:00:54pamauryif you prefer in main.c there this if(set_data_abort_jump()) { bla } else {bli }. It will to the set_data_abort_jump() then the bla, then data abort, goes back to the set_data_abort_jump() and do the bli
09:00:58wodzpamaury: I don't get however how this code protects memcpy() which is after set_data_abort_jump()
09:00:58wodzpamaury: is it like undoing set_data_abort_jump()?
09:01:46wodzI see
09:01:58pamauryyeah it's kind of a roll-back
09:02:14pamauryit acts like if the code from the set_data_abort_jump() to the fault never happened
09:02:30wodzgonna be tricky on mips
09:03:19pamaurywhy ?
09:03:52wodzreturn from exception is not straight jump on mips
09:04:38wodzneed to look how setjump/longjump is implemented
09:05:26pamaurybasically the only requirement is too be able to manipulate the stack pointer and PC on return from an interrupt
09:05:32wodzah, and there is no direct way to grab PC on mips :-)
09:05:33pamaury*to be
09:06:43wodzto get PC you basically need to do conditional branch which is not taken and get return address :-)
09:07:07wodzreturn address is stored even if branch is not taken
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09:25:14wodzpamaury: I don't need to get PC actually. It is sufficient to save address of the bit which changes return value, no?
09:26:38wodzI mean in set_data_abort_jump() PC in stima always points to the same place
09:27:57pamaurywodz: yeah that's right
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10:39:23wodzpamaury: I am I correct that in set_data_abort_jump() one saves only callee saved registers?
10:40:27pamaurysince it acts like a function call
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10:56:49wodzpamaury: Can you look at ? for the record eret instruction returns to the address hold in C0_EPC with interrupts rolled back to the state before the exception
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10:59:13wodzactually this jump could be saved by setting v0 = 1 and C0_ERET to restored ra in exception handler
11:04:54wodzpamaury: like this
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11:11:52pamaurywodz: give me a few minutes to study this, I'm not all familiar with mips
11:16:23pamaurywhat does mtc0 does ?
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11:17:06wodzmoves value from GPR to coprocessor0 register (C0_EPC in this case). ehb ensures that this move actually took place
11:17:17wodzwhoa, I have some work to do
11:17:54pamaurywhy is it needed ?
11:18:29wodzpamaury: which one?
11:20:33wodzWhat eret does is PC <- EPC && roll back status register which controls interrups and such. To set EPC you need to use mtc0 as this is not GPR
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12:08:46wodza bit better, but still
12:09:07wodzwill come back to this a bit later
12:11:01gevaertswodz: see what happens if you don't like something? ;)
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13:31:43wodzgevaerts: *Your* machine generated manual html red :P
13:38:18gevaertswodz: I know. There's no fix that works with all versions of latex setups. My machine worked *before* the "fix"
13:38:47gevaertsI pushed it anyway because the current way works for the server, so the online manuals work
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13:39:19gevaertsI could disable latex on it of course
13:40:23wodzyeah, online manuals are more important
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13:41:02gevaertsI've disabled latex on my client for now. It builds the pdf fine, but...
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14:54:01wodzhow the hell bbd7d1dba39ab1a89b4cc0c18352e35349e66faa slipped in?
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17:51:39scorche|shgevaerts: FYI, I haven't gotten to it yet, but hope to before I have to head out to DC on Thursday
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18:40:53gevaertsscorche|sh: ok, no huge hurry
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19:42:08pamaurythomasjfox: nice catch for SUB ;)
19:42:19thomasjfoxwait for the last one, that's the "big" one
19:42:27thomasjfox(once all reds are resolved)
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20:14:30thomasjfoxhmm, build infrastructure is stuck?
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20:51:23thomasjfoxpamaury: the real deal is submitted now ;)
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20:53:04pamaurythis may explain why the unwinder would just die sometimes on not particular complicated code
20:53:24thomasjfoxprobably if the previous register value was non-zero
20:54:48thomasjfoxdo some targets use thumb mode?
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20:56:11pamauryI don't remember
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20:57:06pamauryBut I did remember trying to compile some target with thumb to save some binary space and the unwinder never produced anything useful on those
20:57:20thomasjfoxit's a configure switch: −−thumb
20:57:45thomasjfoxsome targets (f.e. sansaclip) seem to enable it by default if no preference is given
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20:57:55pamauryyes I know
20:58:14pamauryI think the sansas probably all enable it because memory is scarse on those
20:58:46thomasjfoxlooks like it :)
20:59:21pamauryactually only a subset do: clip, c200v2 and m200v4
21:00:23thomasjfoxgevaerts joins the channel and the build infrastructure starts working again... interesting.
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21:07:28daftsamHi, has anyone got experience with bootloaders not working after the device has been plugged in to a PC? I have to uninstall everything then reinstall it... takes ages
21:09:04daftsamI'm using a Sansa Clip Zip, 01.01.21 original firmware, v3.13 stable release Rockbox
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21:20:35saratogadaftsam: if the bootloader doesn't work, the device is bricked, so probably thats not the problem you have...
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21:22:27daftsamThanks saratoga. Do you have any idea how I might have bricked the device? I took out the microSD, plugged it into my PC, added a couple of theme packs, 'safely removed hardware', put the microSD back in then booted
21:22:51daftsamI booted into the Sansa firmware before connecting it btw, I find it less buggy
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21:33:29saratogasounds like it crashed?
21:33:43saratogaanyway if you were able to get it to work again it wasn't bricked
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22:13:28daftsamSaratoga: yeah I guess it isn't. I uninstalled Rockbox, then reinstalled it. I then let it 'refresh media' on the Sansa firmware which is a real ballache because it takes ages, even though the microSD isn't in
22:13:40daftsamBut now it boots fine again
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22:14:06daftsamI just don't understand why it's crashing like that - a hard reset (30sec press) doesn't fix it either
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22:16:47daftsamCan it take a long time to boot when loading for the first time with a microSD in? It's 64gb...
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22:25:56chrisbdaftsam: is 64G too big for the OS?
22:26:20chrisbdaftsam: or the address space of the CPU?
22:27:10pamauryunless you are using the database, Rockbox doesn't care about the size of the storage, it can handle much more than 64GB
22:27:39pamauryif you are using the database, then it needs to scan the entire media, which can take a while but usually it is done in the background
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22:39:14daftsamchrisb: how can I tell? Generally it's been working fine, I usually only have problems when connecting the device to my PC or removing the memory card (for instance, when syncing my music)
22:39:45daftsamI can confirm that Rockbox boots fine when the microSD isn't used, so there's definitely something there...
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22:43:06chrisbpamaury: ok, that's good to know.
22:43:23[Franklin]lua 5.3 is out now, any plans to upgrade?
22:43:39pamaurywhat is current version of lua in our trunk ?
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22:45:25[Franklin]its from 2008
22:49:59daftsamNow how is it that some Themes have different button mappings? For example, in WhiteProOrange, the power button in WPS is stop. But in Fuzzylogic it acts as a sort of 'Zoom out' button, taking me back through the menu tree
22:50:17daftsamI was under the impression that button mappings aren't affected by themes
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23:00:53wodzpamaury: Do you happen to have version of g#980 synced with current state of hwstub (I mean with read rd/wr stuff)?
23:00:58fs-bluebotGerrit review #980 at : hwstub: implement read/write data abort recovery by Amaury Pouly
23:01:14pamaurywodz: no, is it broken ?
23:01:33pamauryah yeah we added atomic since then, no I don't but it should be fairly easy to do so
23:01:40pamauryI'll do it tonight or tomorrow if that's ok
23:01:53wodzpamaury: ok, I'll cherry pick and resolve conflicts then
23:02:20wodzI am going to experiment with mips implementation now
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23:19:19[Franklin]foolsh: I can't figure out how to make the track loop without making it obvious
23:19:49[Franklin]all the stuff I've tried either leaves the screen blank for a second and then restarts, or restarts abruptly making it too obvious
23:22:18wodzpamaury: synced g#980 with HEAD, now I'll work on mips part
23:22:22fs-bluebotGerrit review #980 at : hwstub: implement read/write data abort recovery by Amaury Pouly
23:23:21pamaurywodz: could you fix the whitespace to keep the style consistent ? (the space between if and (
23:23:52wodzyeah, will do
23:25:42foolsh[Franklin]: I havn't looked, cooking dinner, are you doing the whole thing procedurally? If so maybe try using a list of course features and then run that through the track creating procedures
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23:26:42[Franklin]sorry, wasn't clear enough
23:26:49[Franklin]I meant making the track repeat
23:27:38foolshright I get that, but you're looping the procedure, and it skips a bit between loops right?
23:28:17[Franklin]I want it so that if the camera is right before the "end" of the road, it draws the beginning segments too
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23:28:56[Franklin]I can loop the indices for the track
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23:29:12[Franklin]it's the camera position that I can't loop properly
23:33:57foolsh[Franklin]: is it on gerrit yet?
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23:34:24[Franklin]all the good stuff, yes :)
23:34:47[Franklin]I haven't added any noticable features since the last patch set
23:35:14[Franklin]ugh... the sky looks ugly!
23:35:28[Franklin]it needs to be a gradient
23:39:28foolsh[Franklin]: maybe "tween" camera postions every frame, then the view would bob and float a little an ways, and you hang up issue would go away
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23:56:37daftsamSIMPLE QUESTION! I'm just trying to learn the basics of Database editing, specifically creating my own tagnavi_custom.config file. I edited the order of my Menus in Database, which worked, but I still have all the old menus underneath... how can I make sure my list is the only one used?

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