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#rockbox log for 2015-03-25

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01:25:40flybackoh shit
01:25:50flybacknow I can't rmeember what the model was called it's been so long
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09:59:57wodzpamaury: strings in x1 binary shows that codecs are included so I think this is simply flat binary
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10:07:58pamaurywodz: ok,
10:10:05wodzpamaury: BTW your packtools segfaults when called without parameters
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10:12:26pamaurywodz: really ? that's pretty bad, let me see that
10:14:06pamaurywodz: indeed, pretty obvious bug
10:15:08pamaurywodz: I added a comment where there is a mistake, I'll push a new version when I have some time, otherwise feel free to do so
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10:17:24wodzI don't think I'll have time today
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10:21:13wodzpamaury: I think I found x1 lcd init routine yesterday
10:21:19pamauryoh that's cool
10:21:27wodzpamaury: seems like 2 versions of controller are used
10:22:11pamauryby the way, I noted a few things: the datasheet described the entire usb boot protocol :) that's very nice. Second, some datasheet states the jz4760b has a few difference register wise with the jz4760 but I couldn't find a detailled list
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10:23:25wodzpamaury: linux/u-boot patch may help there
10:23:36pamauryyeah, but I didn't have a look at this yet
10:23:46wodzthey are massive :-)
10:25:52pamauryif they have a good register description with correct copyright, we may be able to extract a register description out of them
10:26:14wodzIf there is easy way to trigger this usb mode port should be fairly easy. Usb core is documented so hwstub port should be easy.
10:26:38wodzpamaury: AFAIK everything is GPLv2 only so not quite compatible with rb
10:28:21pamauryyeah everything is documented, I must say this might be easiest port ever ;)
10:28:39gevaertsFamous last words? :)
10:29:16wodznot everything is documented. XMU is NOT documented other then famous awk preprocessor and some headers.
10:29:17pamaurywell the hard part is to buy it, especially for the higher models like x3 and x5 which cost an arm
10:29:42pamauryyeah, but we don't need XMU do we ?
10:30:10wodzLets start with x1. The found should be able to cope with ~90euro, no?
10:30:47wodzbasically we can omit XMU but it might be handy in optimization stage.
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10:31:16gevaertsYou don't want a player using mips to cost an arm!
10:31:20wodzx1 declared battery runtime is less then 12h. Thats pretty bad.
10:31:29pamauryyeah it's <=100EUR, I will probably buy one. Yeah XMU would be useful in the future
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10:31:58pamaurybut without any toolchain support, it's going to be a pain, best would be to add support to say llvm, maybe some people already had a look at it
10:32:03pamaurygevaerts: haha :)
10:32:33wodzor rework this awk script and preprocess sources
10:34:22pamaurythis script is funny, it looks a awful like awk scripts I've written: write-once, run-alot, read-never
10:34:33wodzI wonder what will be the comparision of rb and OF decoding efficiency as OF seems to use fpu (which I wouldn't expect to be blazing fast)
10:35:27pamaurysaratoga said our mips code is not very optimised, also it's quite possible the OF doesn't try to optimise battery usage
10:36:19pamauryI mean 24h playback on an audiophile player is clearly unprofessionnal ;)
10:37:05wodzOur code is not optimized BUT is integer only. Mips cores usually are pretty good at integer math due to lots of registers to play with.
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10:37:17pamauryI noticed something funny: the jz4760b has an internal codec which can already do 24-bit/48KHz but they put an extra codec just to do 24-bit/192KHz :-o
10:37:47pamaury(and probably better audio characteristics too I guess)
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10:49:18pamaurywodz: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TjsU6FM6leoJ:wiki.dingoonity.org/index.php%3Ftitle%3DDevelopment:MXU+&cd=7&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr
10:49:33pamauryapparently the wiki removed all the information but the google cache has the whole page
10:50:13pamauryis ingenic particularly aggressive about XMU and chasing people trying to document it ?
10:50:57wodzpamaury: I think udefined opcodes in context store/restore are related to XMU
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10:52:24pamauryso maybe it would make sense to do a bit of work on this to have a complete enough disassembler
10:52:41pamauryare many such instructions in regular code ?
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10:53:58wodzOnly a few places so far but I didn't reach codecs.
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11:33:35wodzpamaury: If I read awk script correctly, all xmu opcodes should start with 0b011100 (0x70000000). But undefined codes in binary are also starting with 0x44000000. There are 15 consecutive 0x70000000 opcodes while there are 17 XMU registers :/
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11:37:47pamaurywhy is that an issue ?
11:38:17pamauryout of the 17, the first is always 0 and the last is the control register apparently, so only 15 are really usable
11:38:29wodzhmm, true
11:38:39wodzI didn't think about it
11:39:16pamauryby the way, some source on the internet says there might be 3 levels of instructions between jz4710 and jz4770
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11:39:41wodzthere is a spike of XMU opcodes starting at vma 801fc894
11:39:53pamaurythe "level" bying written to the control register: bit 0 for level 0, and so on. Someone on the internet said jz4770 has 3 levels (so write 7 to control register)
11:40:20pamauryit's might interesting to see what is the level supported by jz4760 if we can find it
11:43:42wodz0x44000000 opcodes seems to be fpu related
11:45:49pamauryis the fpu documented ?
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11:48:15wodzregular mips fpu is documented
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12:02:51wodzpamaury: https://android.googlesource.com/toolchain/binutils/+/006d27ae5460e9b39d11ca8403b52984753a294e
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12:25:09wodzpamaury: objdump from this source successfully recognize problematic instructions :-)
12:25:32wodzwell, almost
12:28:01wodz0x44 instructions are still mostly unrecognized
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13:24:14pamaurywodz: including xmu instructions ?
13:24:21wodzyes
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13:24:52pamaurywoah, that's cool
13:27:20wodzFor example consider this: 801fc894: 6c108070 s16ldi xr1,a0,8,ptn0
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