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21:37:52chokihey
21:39:57pamauryask your question, someone will answer if he/she knows
21:40:01pamaurywodz: ping
21:41:50wodzpamaury: gnip
21:42:13pamauryI pushed headergen_v2 on gerrit along with qeditor, you can have a try
21:42:42wodzok, great
21:42:44pamaurythe code is quite documented, so it should be fairly easy to write your own generator by following what is done for the imx233 one
21:43:16pamaurythere are a few things I'm still unsure about, for now it generates something like this:
21:43:36pamauryhttps://gist.github.com/pamaury/b4844380686b90da14ca
21:43:37wodzI am digging in x1 firmware. It looks like it prints some debug stuff to uart
21:44:14wodzto UART1 to be precise
21:44:32pamauryyeah I saw some printing functions
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21:55:05wodzpamaury: Does x1 have nand at all?
21:56:25pamaurywodz: yes, it has a chip called "mst9dblabla" which is DRAM+NAND
21:56:26pamauryhttp://www.elnec.com/device/ATO+Solution/MST8A08B16FMHF-5+%5BFBGA107%5D/
21:56:33pamauryhttp://www.atosolution.com/product/product04.html#con9
21:57:00pamauryon this photo http://vozforums.com/showthread.php?p=71636215 it shows mst9d16d32f
21:58:24pamaurythat's 128MB flash + 64MB DRAM if I'm correct
21:58:51wodzok, so this is basically only for firmware
21:59:14pamaurythat would match the "file system size" field of the firmware upgrade and suggest that the NAND only contains the firmware in a read-only fashion
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22:00:05wodzthat would make the port easier. No FTL hassle
22:00:16pamauryyeah
22:01:43wodzI wonder if there is some easy way to force rom usb mode. That would be super handy
22:03:25pamauryindeed, since everything is documented
22:06:09pamauryI couldn't find anything on the internet but there is little information
22:06:28pamauryand this time it will be hard to short nand pins ;)
22:08:14wodzI believe on ondas it was possible to trigger this mode with some button combination during boot
22:09:06pamauryyeah that's quite likely
22:09:40pamaurythere is a shop in Paris which might sell this device, I might go and buy one on saturday
22:11:54ZincAlloyit does look nice. I hope they will make a tiny player one day :D
22:13:07pamauryit's already quite small no ? I mean it's not a clip+ but it's not one of those huge hifi players
22:13:09wodz"To support large SDRAM space, EMC re-maps the physical address H’00000000-H07FFFFFF to H’20000000-H’27FFFFFF. Software must configure the SDRAM base address by the re-mapped address." What the hell does it mean?
22:13:59ZincAlloyI've gotten so used to that tiny clip format
22:14:28pamaurywodz: ah yeah I've read this sentence, couldn't understand it either ^^
22:15:47wodzcache init function does something associated with this.
22:16:35wodzBut on MIPS this address range goes by MMU so whats the point?
22:16:39pamaurybased on the physical address space, I guess at 0 there is the first SDRAM bank and maybe at 0x20000000 there is an alias ?
22:16:58pamauryand then after 0x27ffffff there are other banks
22:18:25wodzok, but why? Why do something like this when you can configure MMU to remap everthing nicely?
22:18:36ZincAlloyhaving a really nice sounding player sure would be nice.. the clip zip sounds a bit dull with my headphones..
22:20:16pamaurywodz: I don't know, I'm reading
22:24:51wodzhuh, disable_irq() function is terribly not safe in x1 OF
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22:27:17pamaurywhy ?
22:29:14wodzit doesn't guarantee that just after return disabling interrupts is actually effective.
22:30:13wodzthe old way is to put some nops after changing C0_SR, the newer cores have hazard clearing instructions
22:30:21pamauryhum, I can't find any remap setting in the EMC block, either it's somewhere else, or it's poorly explained, or they implicitely mean you have to use the MMU ?
22:31:54wodzcache init function explicitely jumps to 0x20000000 | cache_init() address. Cache init must be called from uncached alias so I think is the purpose of this strange jump
22:32:28pamauryah ok, DMMAP0 and DMMAP1 in DDRC block
22:32:49pamauryyou can choose the base address of the DDR memory
22:35:34wodzhmm, the document says the core is fully interlocked so this is probably the reason why manipulating c0 is always safe
22:36:13pamaurywhat does that mean ? I'm not familiar with mips
22:38:03wodzIt means that if some operation needs more then 1 cycle the pipline waits for this to happen. Traditionally MIPS tried to avoid interlocks as much as it could up to the point that control register changing instructions must have been carefully scheduled to not have side effects
22:46:59wodzlcd block is configured to do 8bit transfers. quite strange.
22:47:47pamaurywhy strange ? maybe the lcd has 8-bit bus
22:50:05wodzMaybe. I'd expect pure serial or 16/18bit parallel
22:51:32pamauryI've seen a few 8-bit bus on imx233
22:57:16pamaurywodz: maybe the lcd uses a 8-bit bus for command and 16-bit one for data
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23:01:13wodzboth command and data are 8bit transfers. I don't know about actual pixels pushing yet
23:04:25wodzok, it looks like the bus width is indeed 8bit. The block is configured to transfer 24bit pixel as 3 8bit transfers
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