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#rockbox log for 2015-05-12

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01:54:05foolshI see lorenzo doing something interesting things with palm devices lately, I can't wait til the sources are available. I'm sure HaRet -> linux -> rockbox on these old WinCE would be totally possible
01:59:38[Saint]I found it mildly hilarious that it is using a 4.x kernel
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02:00:19[Saint]I really want to try and revive ipodlinux a bit, especially with the pp ipods in mind.
02:00:31[Saint]I believe dreamlayers is working in that direction.
02:01:00[Saint]I had a bit of a poke around on his blog/github repo.
02:03:32foolshbeen kicking around with openembedded's bitbake build system, I was surprised to find the kernel support for many old SOC windows mobile devices already there, nice and tidy like
02:04:30foolshWant to really know what he meant by "hybrid" build
02:04:45foolshkernel module maybe :)
02:05:00foolshthat would be cra
02:05:58[Saint]I've been poking around with my fleet of ODROID devices lately, nothing terribly interesting, and not Rockbox related.
02:06:26[Saint]Just wrapping 'pretty' ncurses stuffs around my cli interfaces.
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03:13:52Strife89Dammit, now I want a Tungsten E2 for that new WIP port.
03:14:01[Franklin]same
03:16:46Strife89The funny thing is, I have plenty of OS5 Palms - just not that one.
03:17:14Strife89All with a similar CPU, to boot.
03:18:24[Franklin]well, you can always start a new port ;)
03:19:13Strife89Ahahahaha.
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03:20:13Strife89By the time I got one to "technically usable" status, most of this channel would likely be dead. :/
03:27:15[Saint]Once most of it is in place, porting it to other similar Palm deveices would be fairly trivial.
03:27:29[Saint]FOSS developers are all over the Palm devices like flies on shit.
03:27:55[Saint]So, subsequently, there's a lot of kernel/module code out there in the Internet-o-sphere.
03:28:17Strife89Are they? The entire Palm OS line seems to be dead as far as my searches are concerned.
03:28:32Strife89Most activity appears to have ceased by early 2010.
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10:06:36wodz[Saint]: why do you want to revive IPL?
10:07:35wodz[Saint]: and where you see dreamlayers work in this direction?
10:17:49[Saint]wodz: for amusements sake, and, on his blogspot.
10:18:21wodz[Saint]: his github doesn't show any activity in this dir
10:19:32[Saint]sorry, I got confused. It isn't his github, just a repo he happened to be distributing which I picked up.
10:19:39[Saint]from dreamlayers.blogspot.co.nz/2015/04/compiling-ipodlinux-26-kernel.html">http://dreamlayers.blogspot.co.nz/2015/04/compiling-ipodlinux-26-kernel.html
10:21:33[Saint]I also messed around with dreamlayers.blogspot.co.nz/2015/04/getting-ipod-hard-drive-smart-data-via.html">http://dreamlayers.blogspot.co.nz/2015/04/getting-ipod-hard-drive-smart-data-via.html a bit, which was mildly amusing.
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10:22:22[Saint]'Getting iPod hard drive SMART data via iPodLinux'
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10:50:04wodz[Saint]: IPL deserves memorial plaque in RE hall of fame but seriously this is dead project.
10:50:38wodz[Saint]: having pass through support in rb for reading smart over usb sonds interesting though
10:51:21wodz[Saint]: Although realistically I seriously doubt someone will step in for this task
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12:32:49wodzpamaury: Maybe you can help me understand what is going on with this mux stuff. Consider this wodz/rockbox-atj213x/blob/master/firmware/target/mips/atj213x/gpio-atj213x.c">https://github.com/wodz/rockbox-atj213x/blob/master/firmware/target/mips/atj213x/gpio-atj213x.c
12:34:47wodzIn lcd_update_rect() I have save = atj213x_gpio_muxsel(GPIO_MUXSEL_LCM); at the very top and atj213x_gpio_muxsel(save); at the bottom. Threads are cooperative so unless something messing with mux is called from irq context this should be safe.
12:35:43wodzNow I have the same situation in sd driver where I grab mux at the very top of function which sends command to sd and restore at the very end.
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12:36:18wodzsd code doesn't call and printing function to avoid switching mux in the middle.
12:36:44wodzSo now how is it possible to interfere?
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14:10:19pamaurywodz: I'm not sure I see the point of save/restore ?
14:10:39pamauryalso are you sure no function called between save/restore can yield ?
14:13:06wodzpamaury: I did save/restore to easily pair the calls when looking at the source + protect from recursion corrupting restore of mux value (not sure this happen in reality). I might have missed something but I think I use only busy loops in this code so far.
14:14:43pamaurywodz: no semaphore ?
14:15:24wodzpamaury: I commented it all for now
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14:26:16wodzpamaury: BTW. I found pretty smart stack unwinder for mips. It has some limitation but is extremely compact and should work pretty well for gcc generated code.
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15:00:24pamaurywodz: cool :)
15:04:40wodzpamaury: are you finished with manuscript?
15:04:52pamauryI finish today, polishing stuff
15:04:58pamaury\o/
15:06:16wodzcool! Heavy hacking coming soon :-)
15:06:49pamauryyeahhhhhhhhhhh
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16:30:50scottjHi, Sansa Clip+ here, if I'm playing a file in a directory how can I start playing the first file in that same directory?
16:31:20scottjif I go to the file manager and select the first file it will always play the most recent file in I played in that directory
16:31:55scottjI just learned I can go to the previous directory and then to the next directory (short left long left short right long right) and that works, but is there a more direct way?
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16:43:26pamauryscottj: I don't know, I'm not sure, best is probably to read the manual, maybe there is a setting for this
16:44:14gevaertsIf it continues playing where you left of, you have some non-default setting
16:44:28gevaertsCan you put your config.cfg file on a pastebin?
16:46:49pamauryI think that if you press play in the file browser if goes back to the WPS but I'm not aware of this behaviour for select
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23:24:42_wodz_There is firmware update for clip jam. Quick inspection shows that this is format used by ATJ so the player seems to be closely related to clip sport.
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