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| 00:07:09 | aphirst | what a waste of plastic |
| 00:10:15 | * | [Saint] wishes to point out that no one in their right mind should be using the release versions of Rockbox |
| 00:10:29 | [Saint] | can someone with site access put a note up to that effect? |
| 00:10:53 | chrisb | [Saint]: do you boot rockbox in kvm or quemu? |
| 00:11:02 | [Saint] | People asking about the release and bugs that were fixed ~2 years ago is tiresome |
| 00:11:11 | [Saint] | chrisb: no - why? |
| 00:11:21 | [Saint] | we have an SDL app - no need for such things. |
| 00:12:02 | tertu | aphirst: they are normal SD cards though |
| 00:12:29 | [Saint] | ^ that |
| 00:12:50 | [Saint] | normal card format - non-sane content format. |
| 00:13:14 | [Saint] | (for arguable definitions of sane) |
| 00:13:39 | tertu | oh slotMusic anyway |
| 00:13:46 | tertu | slotRadio i don't think you can even change |
| 00:13:53 | tertu | slotMusic is just DRM-free MP3s |
| 00:14:54 | lebellium | [Saint]: can't you just edit index.t in a patch and ask for someone to push it? |
| 00:14:56 | [Saint] | ah, whoops. Is slotradio the crazy one I'm thinking about. They used to give you that silly little demo disk/ |
| 00:15:32 | [Saint] | lebellium: sure, or someone with direct site access can just go beep-boop-done. |
| 00:15:37 | * | [Saint] shrugs |
| 00:15:50 | lebellium | looks like only you is interested in adding this note |
| 00:15:56 | lebellium | that's why I was saying that |
| 00:16:12 | chrisb | [Saint]: oops |
| 00:16:15 | [Saint] | It is looking that way. |
| 00:18:00 | [Saint] | chrisb: no need for opps, it isn't a well known fact I don't think. But, yeah, we've had the simulators and an SDL app for years. |
| 00:18:14 | [Saint] | precisely emulating the hardware isn't particularly interesting. |
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| 00:43:08 | tertu | slotradio is apparently |
| 00:43:20 | tertu | you bought it and apparently it had a demo disk |
| 00:43:35 | tertu | the cards had lots of songs on them but you could only skip them and you couldn't pick them out one by one |
| 00:45:46 | [Saint] | Getting slightly offtopic but I remember going to a garage sale once and finding it hilarious that someone had a massive pile of them. The money they must have spent... |
| 00:46:30 | [Saint] | It never really (thankfully) caught on here. |
| 00:46:50 | [Saint] | But we did have to contend with minidisc for a while. |
| 00:47:18 | [Saint] | which is a genuinely ludicrous format. |
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| 06:28:21 | Aldem | Hi |
| 06:28:47 | Aldem | So now I have rockbox on my old Sansa e280. Where do you get your plugins ? |
| 06:29:39 | [Saint] | All the plugins that run with Rockbox ship with Rockbox. |
| 06:29:46 | [Saint] | I'm unsure what you mean. |
| 06:30:50 | Aldem | I though I saw SPCs plugins somewhere |
| 06:30:55 | Aldem | Super Nintendo music |
| 06:31:51 | [Saint] | We play SPC natively. |
| 06:32:15 | Aldem | Where can I see the natively supported formats ? |
| 06:32:35 | [Saint] | a partial list resides here: |
| 06:32:36 | [Saint] | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SoundCodecs |
| 06:32:56 | [Saint] | SPC was added (and since partially extended) in 2006-ish |
| 06:33:39 | Aldem | Thanks |
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| 06:33:56 | [Saint] | It may be that the e2* just aren't powerful enough and it is disincluded from this target. |
| 06:33:59 | [Saint] | I'm unsure. |
| 06:36:48 | [Saint] | I'm not sure of any plugins that function in the way you're thinking (modular support) due to rather heavy integration with the core. |
| 06:40:00 | Aldem | God |
| 06:40:08 | Aldem | Been a while since I last played with this sansa |
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| 11:18:06 | rockmyipod | I just tried to reinstall RockBox on my IPod 6g with emcore. The installation was without any errors but now when I try to boot I get the ATA error. Fallback image boots but no playback. How do I solve this ? |
| 11:20:34 | TheSeven | "the ATA error"? which one? |
| 11:21:26 | rockmyipod | ATA error: -2147483542 |
| 11:21:40 | TheSeven | also which version of the rockbox zip file did you extract to it? the one shipped with emcore, or latest development build? |
| 11:23:14 | rockmyipod | I used rockbox utility |
| 11:23:47 | TheSeven | any hardware mods on this ipod? |
| 11:24:03 | rockmyipod | I followed this guide >> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic/UMSboot |
| 11:24:59 | rockmyipod | I had RockBox running on it before (since past few years). Was giving trouble (Filesystem i guess) so formatted it then reinstalled |
| 11:25:30 | rockmyipod | Im not sure what you mean by hardware mods |
| 11:25:30 | TheSeven | what did you use to format it? |
| 11:25:45 | rockmyipod | I used Gparted to format the data partition |
| 11:25:52 | TheSeven | hardware mods as in "hdd replaced by a different model or SSD or SD card or whaterver" |
| 11:25:53 | rockmyipod | the USMboot was still left on it |
| 11:26:20 | rockmyipod | no hardware mods. Its just as it had come except for software change |
| 11:26:24 | TheSeven | yes, even emcore and the rockbox fallback image should have survived that |
| 11:26:49 | TheSeven | just extracting the rockbox zip file again (or using RB utility for installation) should have worked |
| 11:26:59 | TheSeven | but I guess gparted did something to the formatting that rockbox isn't happy about |
| 11:27:21 | rockmyipod | yes it did. Then i went to Tools>>USMBoot .... connected my ipod .... had a 64 GB partition pop up ... and then followed the instructions |
| 11:27:22 | TheSeven | but emcore didn't reformat it during installation because it was already formatted |
| 11:27:58 | rockmyipod | But later on i did format it by going into tool>>format data partition |
| 11:28:37 | rockmyipod | what do you suggest I should do now ? |
| 11:29:25 | TheSeven | so you reformatted the data partition before installing using RB utility? |
| 11:29:47 | rockmyipod | I have tried reinstalling atleast 3 times ... twice after using Tools from the Ipod menu to Format Data Partition and also Clear Dtabase |
| 11:30:25 | rockmyipod | Not the 1st time. But then when it gave error I did it from ipod menu and tried reinstalling again. It gave same error |
| 11:30:41 | TheSeven | hm, very weird |
| 11:31:12 | TheSeven | anyway, this is ATA error 0x8000006A, let's track that through the code |
| 11:32:09 | rockmyipod | How do I do that ? (Im sorry Im a noob but I dont mind getting my hands dirty) |
| 11:32:25 | TheSeven | I'll have a quick look |
| 11:32:35 | rockmyipod | Ok |
| 11:33:02 | TheSeven | so you're getting that ATA error ... press ON to debug message? |
| 11:33:14 | rockmyipod | Yes ... |
| 11:38:07 | rockmyipod | I did find this >> http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=48562.0 (check the last post there) ..... but it seems to be more of a workaround than a solution. So not sure about it. |
| 11:39:54 | TheSeven | which ipod model is that |
| 11:40:08 | TheSeven | 160GB thick? (oldest model classic) |
| 11:40:40 | TheSeven | (2007 model) |
| 11:40:41 | rockmyipod | Yeah mine is 160 GB Ipod Classic 6g |
| 11:40:52 | rockmyipod | yep 2007 |
| 11:41:00 | TheSeven | ok, so the CE-ATA weirdo |
| 11:41:22 | TheSeven | then I know what's going on, but I thought that would be fixed already... |
| 11:42:10 | rockmyipod | can it be fixed from my side ? |
| 11:42:22 | TheSeven | it's a fairly simple bug in rockbox's code |
| 11:42:34 | TheSeven | so you need a build with a few lines of code changed |
| 11:42:54 | TheSeven | that change should really have ended up in the main rockbox code tree long ago, but apparently it didn't, I just checked |
| 11:44:27 | rockmyipod | So is there a noob friendly how to/ guide ? |
| 11:44:31 | TheSeven | (it apparently went unnoticed because barely anyone has that 2007 160GB model, and only that one is affected) |
| 11:45:44 | TheSeven | what basically needs to be done is tolerate an error in these two lines: http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=blob;f=firmware/target/arm/s5l8702/ipod6g/storage_ata-ipod6g.c;h=58060403d5c593cce6c911a0427f2403b9db8492;hb=HEAD#l697 |
| 11:46:18 | TheSeven | the CEATA model just doesn't support those commands, and they aren't critical for operation anyway (they just control the drive's caching behavior) |
| 11:46:42 | TheSeven | this one as well: http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=blob;f=firmware/target/arm/s5l8702/ipod6g/storage_ata-ipod6g.c;h=58060403d5c593cce6c911a0427f2403b9db8492;hb=HEAD#l1142 |
| 11:47:50 | rockmyipod | so how do you suggest I solve it ? Im guessing im gonna have to ditch the Utility tool and the previous guide |
| 11:48:09 | TheSeven | the utility is just extracting a zip file anyway |
| 11:48:21 | TheSeven | the problem is generating a patched zip file ;) |
| 11:48:54 | TheSeven | and I guess we should just get that change into git and wait for the autobuild system to generate new files from that |
| 11:49:15 | rockmyipod | So you will be fixing it from the server side ? |
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| 11:51:07 | TheSeven | prof_wolfff: you don't happen to have a ce-ata ipod by chance? ;) |
| 11:53:44 | rockmyipod | I do :-( |
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| 12:01:33 | rockmyipod | TheSeven: not sure what you want me to do ? |
| 12:02:27 | TheSeven | well if you don't want to roll your own builds, it's probably easiest to go back to an old known-working build (see that thread) for now, and update to the latest development build again after this is fixed |
| 12:03:43 | rockmyipod | I don't mind rolling my own build. But not sure how its done. I know that some lines in the code need to be editted out but how and what to do next ? |
| 12:04:38 | rockmyipod | I was wondering how long before it would be fixed from the server side ? |
| 12:04:54 | TheSeven | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevelopmentGuide#Set_Up_Your_Environment if you want to roll a build yourself |
| 12:05:10 | TheSeven | I don't have a build environment around right now so I can't easily give you a testing build |
| 12:05:40 | TheSeven | but I think we can just commit that change without much testing, can't really make the situation worse than it is right now |
| 12:05:51 | TheSeven | so if you're lucky that change might land within the next few days |
| 12:06:34 | rockmyipod | cool ... I will test my luck then. Trying the fix mentioned in the thread for now. Hope it works. |
| 12:10:30 | rockmyipod | TheSeven: It worked !!! ..... |
| 12:11:15 | rockmyipod | Thanks ... I see you are one of the develepoers for this amazing Software that helped me get rid of Apple Software and Itunes for ever. |
| 12:12:12 | rockmyipod | Thanks for creating this wonderful RockBox. Ill be waiting for the fix. I hope it comes soon (won't be adding much music to it till then). |
| 12:18:45 | prof_wolfff | The Seven: hi! i don't have CE-ATA, IIRC the problem is not for all CE-ATA, some CE-ATA drives seems to work well |
| 12:22:17 | TheSeven | prof_wolfff: sure? I'm not aware that there even are multiple CE-ATA idks models |
| 12:22:19 | TheSeven | disk* |
| 12:23:06 | TheSeven | anyway, my suggestion to fix this is just ignoring failure on cache policy SET_FEATURE commands on all disk models, whether ceata or not |
| 12:24:15 | TheSeven | if a disk doesn't claim to support that feature we are just skipping it anyway, but these nasty CE-ATA ones are claiming to support it, yet they fail the command |
| 12:24:58 | prof_wolfff | i recall some people on RB (Saint?) test it on CE-ATA ipod with no errors, i can try to patch it until we get more clues about it |
| 12:25:11 | prof_wolfff | about the bootloader, ATM i have code for the dual-bootloader and the dfu-installer, it compiles but have never been installed, i hope to have a few free time in the next weeks to try to debug it and post a working version |
| 12:25:20 | TheSeven | [Saint] recently claimed to not even have a working CE-ATA ipod (anymore?) |
| 12:25:46 | TheSeven | well even if we get more clues about which drives are misbehaving, we can't really do anything else than ignoring it |
| 12:26:15 | TheSeven | so I guess we can just always ignore it - there's just nothing else we could do other than bail out or ignore, the latter seeming more favorable |
| 12:27:00 | prof_wolfff | i agree, will try to patch it ASAP |
| 12:27:16 | TheSeven | so if you have a build environment around (I don't right now), can you have a quick go at just removing the PASS_RC macro wrappers from the ata_set_feature commands in lines 697, 598 and 1142 in storage_ata-ipod6g.c? |
| 12:27:37 | TheSeven | I guess that should take care of it |
| 12:27:45 | prof_wolfff | ok |
| 12:28:07 | TheSeven | and right now we have someone with a ce-ata ipod (but no dev environment) around to actually verify that |
| 12:41:47 | prof_wolfff | i suppose he is rockmyipod, i will send a build to him to test it before commiting |
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| 12:56:34 | TheSeven | yes |
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| 13:05:52 | rockmyipod | Just tell me what to do and I will be happy to do. Im not registered here though |
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| 13:06:21 | TheSeven | rockmyipod: he'll just send you a zip file that you'll extract to your ipod's root directory (containing the .rockbox folder) when it's ready |
| 13:07:16 | rockmyipod | Ok.... btw I did just that from the forum link I posted earlier. That seems to be working for now |
| 13:08:49 | TheSeven | yes, the difference is just that this link points to a somewhat old version of rockbox - if we're lucky the suggested fix will allow an up-to-date rockbox build to work equally well :) |
| 13:09:11 | TheSeven | the installation process is the same of course, just a different zip file |
| 13:09:20 | rockmyipod | cool :D |
| 13:11:46 | rockmyipod | show how will this work .... should I drop by again in a couple of days ? |
| 13:16:26 | TheSeven | I'm not sure what's delaying your testing build right now - normally this takes only a few minutes... prof_wolfff? |
| 13:16:31 | prof_wolfff | rockmyipod: please contact me on my e-mail address i have just send to you |
| 13:16:41 | TheSeven | heh, timing ;) |
| 13:17:15 | TheSeven | prof_wolfff: so did I understand that correctly that you basically have a proof of concept RB bootloader + DFU flasher ready? |
| 13:17:27 | prof_wolfff | :) today i am going to be out, will try to do it tonight or tomorrow |
| 13:17:42 | prof_wolfff | yes, it is almost emCORE code ported to rockbox |
| 13:18:44 | TheSeven | ok, feel free to ping me if you run into any issues - I guess I have more experience with messing with it at that level, so I might give you some hints ;) |
| 13:20:40 | prof_wolfff | thanks! the dfu-loader is based on the spireader, i am ready to install them on the device, the code was ready a few weeds ago but i have not much time these days |
| 13:20:50 | rockmyipod | prof_wolfff: sent an email |
| 13:23:43 | rockmyipod | prof_wolfff: TheSeven : now that the email has been authenticated I guess ill be off for now. |
| 13:24:16 | rockmyipod | Needless to say .... you guys are awesome !!! appreciate what you doing here. Thanks !! |
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| 15:42:28 | georgewhite | Hello there! |
| 15:43:01 | georgewhite | Today, whilst clearing out the house, found a Sansa Clip+, and installed Rockbox on it. |
| 15:43:13 | georgewhite | It’s great, but the font is really small. |
| 15:43:35 | georgewhite | It’s not that it isn’t readable, it’s just too small. |
| 15:44:04 | georgewhite | Is it possible to replace it with a much bigger font? |
| 15:44:07 | georgewhite | Thanks |
| 15:44:09 | ZincAlloy | Try a different font or a theme with a bigger font then |
| 15:44:42 | georgewhite | So do I go back in to the installer and use the ‘Themes’ checkbox? |
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| 15:44:53 | ZincAlloy | exactly. and make sure to get the font pack. |
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| 15:45:25 | georgewhite | Thanks ZincAlloy |
| 15:45:33 | georgewhite | I’ll try. |
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| 15:48:02 | georgewhite | x8-staek looks cool, but ‘requires font pack’: do I get that separately? |
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| 15:50:18 | georgewhite | Ah, nevermind: Settings > Theme > Font > Rockbox Mix works very well. |
| 15:50:42 | georgewhite | I just didn’t think that the themes would apply to tiny, mono displays. |
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| 17:44:38 | Persits | hi, could anyone answer if SansaFuze with Rockbox has shorter battery life? |
| 17:45:03 | Persits | and does USB chargins work as usual? |
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| 17:48:09 | Persits | hm,the last stable release is from 2013... is still alive? |
| 17:48:22 | Persits | will be updated eventually? |
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| 17:50:52 | lebellium | Persits: the development builds are more stable than the 3.13 release |
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| 18:07:02 | georgewhite | lebellium: specifically for the Sansa Fuze, or generally? |
| 18:07:10 | lebellium | generally |
| 18:07:13 | georgewhite | ah OK |
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| 18:18:16 | Persits | @lebellum are you sure? |
| 18:18:23 | Persits | lebellum, are you sure? |
| 18:18:49 | Persits | where can I read about that? |
| 18:25:28 | Persits | what about USB charging? |
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| 18:32:24 | lebellium | Persits: USB is not fully stable in Rockbox as in original firmware on Sansa players but it's better in dev builds than in latest release |
| 18:32:45 | lebellium | not as stable* |
| 18:32:50 | Persits | ok, |
| 18:32:51 | Persits | thanks |
| 18:33:17 | Persits | how can I install the dev release instead of stable one? I've downloaded both |
| 18:33:34 | lebellium | the easiest way is Rockbox utility |
| 18:33:56 | Persits | yes, I have chosen the Dev version |
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| 18:34:21 | lebellium | then I replaced your current .rockbox directory (release 3.13) with the latest build |
| 18:34:25 | lebellium | nothing more to do |
| 18:34:29 | lebellium | it* |
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| 18:35:26 | Persits | just to verify |
| 18:35:34 | Persits | I connected the Fuze to the PC |
| 18:35:50 | Persits | and changed the device to Fuze |
| 18:35:56 | Persits | in the utility |
| 18:36:20 | Persits | TTC? |
| 18:36:41 | Persits | what should I choose as TTC engine? |
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| 18:36:57 | Persits | now it's SAPI5 |
| 18:37:12 | Persits | @lebellium? |
| 18:38:15 | lebellium | I guess the TTS Engine is used for voice files |
| 18:38:29 | lebellium | for blind users mainly |
| 18:38:36 | lebellium | you probably don't need it, do you? |
| 18:38:36 | Persits | the main use of Fuze is to voice recording |
| 18:38:51 | Persits | I am not blind |
| 18:39:10 | lebellium | voice recording settings are on in Rockbox itself |
| 18:39:12 | lebellium | not the utility |
| 18:39:29 | Persits | are you aware of any benefits in voice recording RB vs Sansa? |
| 18:39:51 | Persits | (RB do you use this abbrev. for Rockbox? |
| 18:39:58 | lebellium | yes we do |
| 18:40:21 | Persits | ok... so, I just press "Install" and enjoy? |
| 18:40:27 | Persits | any other considerations? |
| 18:40:43 | lebellium | well there are many recording settings in RB which probably aren't in the Sandisk firmware but I don't know if that makes the recording better :) |
| 18:40:57 | lebellium | check the Mountpoint too |
| 18:41:02 | lebellium | then press install |
| 18:41:07 | Persits | just a sec, hold on |
| 18:42:02 | Persits | Hm |
| 18:42:15 | Persits | did not find any 'mintpoint" menu/options |
| 18:42:27 | Persits | what is it? |
| 18:42:52 | lebellium | when you changed the device to Fuze |
| 18:43:06 | lebellium | it was also written "select your device in the filesystem" |
| 18:43:16 | lebellium | that's the mountpoint |
| 18:43:42 | Persits | so I've chosen Fuze |
| 18:43:46 | Persits | already |
| 18:43:59 | Persits | Sansa Fuze stable |
| 18:44:07 | lebellium | that's the audio player |
| 18:44:11 | lebellium | not the mountpoint |
| 18:44:17 | Persits | hm |
| 18:44:20 | lebellium | the mountpoint is the letter |
| 18:44:27 | lebellium | like G:\ for example |
| 18:44:49 | Persits | erm, I see |
| 18:45:05 | Persits | so I have two letter |
| 18:45:12 | Persits | as I have SD card inside |
| 18:45:16 | Persits | what is better? |
| 18:45:23 | Persits | internal or external? |
| 18:46:21 | lebellium | there is no better, there is a single one working |
| 18:46:25 | lebellium | inside of course |
| 18:46:42 | lebellium | internal* |
| 18:46:53 | Persits | 0.6 GiB is ok? |
| 18:47:08 | lebellium | yes |
| 18:47:25 | Persits | so, let s the game begin? |
| 18:48:03 | Persits | no any other precausions? |
| 18:48:12 | lebellium | yes, if that's the 1st RB install, then check the boxes Bootloader, Rockbox at least |
| 18:48:19 | lebellium | Font pack, themes and game files are optional |
| 18:48:41 | Persits | It is the 1st, Bootloader checked |
| 18:48:52 | Persits | as well as all other options |
| 18:50:18 | lebellium | it will ask you for the original firmware to install the bootloader |
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| 18:50:42 | Persits | hm |
| 18:51:00 | Persits | I have the original installed |
| 18:51:12 | Persits | what should I do else? |
| 18:51:25 | Persits | download something? |
| 18:52:22 | lebellium | yep |
| 18:52:29 | Persits | :0 |
| 18:52:52 | Persits | http://www.sandisk.com/? |
| 18:53:20 | lebellium | if you have FuzeV1 http://mp3support.sandisk.com/firmware/fuze/fuze01.02.31.zip. If you have FuzeV2 http://mp3support.sandisk.com/firmware/fuze/fuze02.03.33.zip |
| 18:54:46 | Persits | done |
| 18:54:56 | Persits | unzip? |
| 18:55:00 | lebellium | yes |
| 18:55:14 | Persits | done |
| 18:55:16 | Persits | :) |
| 18:55:24 | Persits | something elsE?? |
| 18:55:44 | lebellium | no |
| 18:55:57 | lebellium | RB utility should do everything for you now |
| 18:56:03 | Persits | so.... |
| 18:56:09 | Persits | let's do it |
| 18:58:11 | Persits | "packege installation finished successfully" |
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| 18:58:23 | Persits | should I press ok? |
| 18:58:51 | Persits | yes |
| 18:58:55 | Persits | :) |
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| 19:00:01 | [Saint] | Rockbox can't hurt your device (in theory), you're entirely safe. |
| 19:00:15 | Persits | nnnnice! |
| 19:00:16 | [Saint] | This might seem like a daunting process but it is totally recoverable. |
| 19:00:37 | Persits | I've read about unbrickability |
| 19:01:03 | [Saint] | These devices can most certainly be bricked. |
| 19:01:12 | [Saint] | Most certainly. |
| 19:01:40 | [Saint] | ...however, the installation procedure is widely tested and considered safe for all intents and purposes. |
| 19:02:12 | [Saint] | it is only really the iPod targets that fall into the category of unbrickable. |
| 19:03:07 | Persits | ok.... now I missed that after every change in "Device" category, the build is changed to "stable" automatically |
| 19:03:09 | [Saint] | but even then it is possible to (deliberately, or with sufficient effort) get yourself into silly states. |
| 19:03:26 | Persits | so, I want to install the dev version |
| 19:03:53 | Persits | should I choose any other options in addition to "dev release"? |
| 19:04:00 | lebellium | no |
| 19:04:09 | [Saint] | not if you have already installed the bootloader, no. |
| 19:04:09 | lebellium | well, only check the RB box |
| 19:04:12 | Persits | "mounting is wrong" |
| 19:04:45 | Persits | now, I have only "F" option |
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| 19:05:14 | Persits | "mountpoint does not exist" |
| 19:05:15 | Persits | hm |
| 19:05:54 | lebellium | did you disconnect the device from the computer after RB utility completed the install process? Is it connected right now? |
| 19:06:01 | Persits | omg |
| 19:06:06 | Persits | :( |
| 19:06:35 | lebellium | you should first finish the install process, i.e. power on the device, it will upgrade the firmware with the new bootloader |
| 19:06:46 | lebellium | then you can replace the release with the current dev build |
| 19:07:01 | Persits | of couse it was disconnected to the the first firmware update |
| 19:07:14 | Persits | "silly state" |
| 19:09:39 | Persits | lovely bloody cool! |
| 19:11:10 | Persits | I play blood Doom! I can't believe it |
| 19:11:16 | Persits | Can't believe it |
| 19:11:31 | lebellium | I thought you would check the recording feature first :) |
| 19:11:40 | Persits | I ve checked |
| 19:11:45 | Persits | you are right |
| 19:11:56 | Persits | there are almost 20 options |
| 19:12:02 | Persits | will learn it now |
| 19:12:42 | Persits | unbelievable transformation |
| 19:13:06 | Persits | Thanks a lot for help!! |
| 19:13:21 | lebellium | you're welcome :) |
| 19:19:09 | Persits | hm |
| 19:19:25 | Persits | addictive device |
| 19:20:24 | Persits | back to "Doom" just in case: is there the way to open the doors? |
| 19:20:50 | Persits | or press the "buttons"? |
| 19:24:35 | [Saint] | yes |
| 19:24:47 | Persits | hm... how? |
| 19:25:21 | [Saint] | if I recall correctly this is done by just making forward motion forward+action |
| 19:25:44 | [Saint] | so walking into doors or switches should operate them. |
| 19:26:26 | Persits | hm |
| 19:26:45 | Persits | where I delete the files? |
| 19:26:55 | Persits | I recorded something |
| 19:27:13 | Persits | and wonna delete it, I see only play options |
| 19:29:59 | [Saint] | might I suggest reading our fine user manual. |
| 19:30:52 | Persits | yep... I understand |
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| 19:57:01 | Persits | wow 10Mb per minute voice recording... could you recomment more compressive format? |
| 19:59:16 | Persits | what does it mean "delete failed"? |
| 19:59:27 | Persits | did not find anything in the help file |
| 19:59:38 | lebellium | MPEG Layer 3 should be enough for the poor internal mic :) |
| 19:59:57 | Persits | ? |
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| 20:00:09 | Persits | ah, format you mean? |
| 20:00:11 | Persits | ok |
| 20:00:20 | lebellium | yes |
| 20:00:31 | Persits | ok, will find it |
| 20:00:42 | Persits | but why cannot I delete the file? |
| 20:00:46 | Persits | ? |
| 20:00:47 | lebellium | I don't think you would hear a difference with anything better than MP3 128kbps for voice recording |
| 20:01:12 | lebellium | Maybe it's currently in use? |
| 20:01:18 | Persits | yep |
| 20:01:22 | Persits | just realize it |
| 20:01:28 | Persits | sorry for bothering you |
| 20:01:28 | Persits | :) |
| 20:02:13 | Persits | great experience! |
| 20:07:18 | Persits | thanks for help, great community! |
| 20:07:20 | Persits | c u |
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| 21:00:52 | Persits | guys, could you navigate me to browser based irc gate? |
| 21:02:06 | Persits | ups, just found |
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| 21:37:14 | Persits | Q: can I just disconnect the RB-SansaFuze from the Windows based PC (instead of "Remove safely"? |
| 21:51:56 | gevaerts | No |
| 21:53:27 | Persits | :( I always just removed it |
| 21:53:43 | Persits | ok, will remove it safely |
| 21:53:54 | Persits | What about MacOS? |
| 21:54:16 | soap | same thing for same reason. |
| 21:54:35 | Persits | did you state the reason? |
| 21:54:36 | Persits | :) |
| 21:54:51 | Persits | ok, anyway... I will eject it safely |
| 21:54:58 | soap | I assume one knows why "remove safely" is the suggested option. |
| 21:55:52 | Persits | it was essential years ago, but then I stopped using Windows |
| 21:56:02 | Persits | thus I am not updated |
| 21:56:13 | Persits | use it occasionally |
| 21:58:35 | Persits | unbelievable, my Fuze now alive again! |
| 21:59:01 | Persits | even Recording is adjustable |
| 21:59:08 | Persits | great work |
| 21:59:33 | [Saint] | Essentially - when you write something to a removable disk, it might not actually be flushed out to the storage medium until you hit safely remove. |
| 21:59:51 | [Saint] | that ensures write buffers are written before the drive is removed. |
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| 22:00:09 | Persits | Saint, thanks... now I now it for sure (was not sure about) |
| 22:01:22 | [Saint] | some systems might have less aggressive cahing than others, or have write caching disabled, which might make it seem like this is not an important thing to do. |
| 22:01:34 | [Saint] | but one should always safely remove removable volumes. |
| 22:01:44 | [Saint] | s/cahing/caching/ |
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| 22:13:26 | Persits | Saint, what do you mean be s/caching/caching? |
| 22:13:34 | Persits | How can I explore these dirs? |
| 22:17:10 | Persits | or it was just an example? |
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| 22:51:41 | Persits | Guys, could you plz tell how frequently the dev versions are updated (approx)? |
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| 22:53:23 | [Saint] | every time there is a commit to the codebase. |
| 22:55:24 | Persits | is it on an everyday basis? |
| 22:55:30 | Persits | once a week? |
| 22:55:38 | [Saint] | when it happens. |
| 22:55:47 | Persits | :) |
| 22:55:47 | lebellium | you can have a look at the frequency here http://www.rockbox.org/since-release.html |
| 22:56:08 | lebellium | it used to be very often, now it's just sometimes |
| 22:56:55 | [Saint] | depends how bored pamaury and wodz are. :p |
| 22:58:36 | Persits | pamaury? |
| 22:58:45 | Persits | is it nickname? |
| 22:58:55 | Persits | is it a nickname? |
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| 22:59:11 | Persits | ups |
| 22:59:15 | Persits | i c |
| 22:59:37 | lebellium | remove the "p" and it's his name :) |
| 22:59:49 | pamaury | I'm there but too busy, tomorrow is my phd defense |
| 22:59:56 | [Saint] | it's still his name with the p. ;) |
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| 23:00:38 | lebellium | so starting from the day after tomorrow you'll break a new commits record? \o/ |
| 23:01:20 | Persits | I wish you good luck! |
| 23:02:13 | Persits | And hope you will eventually be bored to contribute some updates |
| 23:02:38 | Persits | hm, how you tell "Good luck" in French? |
| 23:02:43 | lebellium | bonne chance |
| 23:02:56 | Persits | Oui, bonne chance! |
| 23:04:00 | Persits | Je ne parle pas francais :) |
| 23:04:24 | [Saint] | J'aime le fromage |
| 23:05:01 | Persits | Pourtant... j'aim |
| 23:05:33 | Persits | quelle fromage? |
| 23:05:42 | lebellium | clown discussions about french should be on #rockbox-community :) |
| 23:05:50 | Persits | :) |
| 23:05:55 | Persits | sorry |
| 23:06:22 | Persits | I am intoxicated by RB euphory |
| 23:13:20 | Persits | Q: in the Help file there is "Home+LEft" and "Home+Right" combinations for virt.keyboard, but I cannot make it working |
| 23:13:32 | Persits | why is that? |
| 23:23:05 | Persits | @pamaury |
| 23:23:35 | Persits | Are there plans to add some bookmarks to the audio files? |
| 23:23:52 | Persits | like for audio-books? |
| 23:27:02 | Persits | omg |
| 23:27:12 | [Saint] | *cough* manual *cough* |
| 23:27:26 | Persits | it already exists! |
| 23:27:32 | [Saint] | precisely. |
| 23:27:46 | [Saint] | which is why reading the manual is a Very Good Thing(TM). |
| 23:27:47 | Persits | unbelievable! |
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| 23:28:44 | * | [Saint] thinks "wait until s/he discovers the full theme engine" |
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| 23:32:25 | Persits | hm, I cannot rename bookmarks like "part 2" part 3 etc :) |
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| 23:40:43 | Persits | if the file was renamed after bookmarks were made they won't work |
| 23:40:46 | Persits | is it bug? |
| 23:46:23 | | Nick suYin is now known as suYin`OFF (suYin@server1.bouncer4you.de) |
| 23:52:00 | | Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) |
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