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#rockbox log for 2015-07-05

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00:07:09aphirstwhat a waste of plastic
00:10:15*[Saint] wishes to point out that no one in their right mind should be using the release versions of Rockbox
00:10:29[Saint]can someone with site access put a note up to that effect?
00:10:53chrisb[Saint]: do you boot rockbox in kvm or quemu?
00:11:02[Saint]People asking about the release and bugs that were fixed ~2 years ago is tiresome
00:11:11[Saint]chrisb: no - why?
00:11:21[Saint]we have an SDL app - no need for such things.
00:12:02tertuaphirst: they are normal SD cards though
00:12:29[Saint]^ that
00:12:50[Saint]normal card format - non-sane content format.
00:13:14[Saint](for arguable definitions of sane)
00:13:39tertuoh slotMusic anyway
00:13:46tertuslotRadio i don't think you can even change
00:13:53tertuslotMusic is just DRM-free MP3s
00:14:54lebellium[Saint]: can't you just edit index.t in a patch and ask for someone to push it?
00:14:56[Saint]ah, whoops. Is slotradio the crazy one I'm thinking about. They used to give you that silly little demo disk/
00:15:32[Saint]lebellium: sure, or someone with direct site access can just go beep-boop-done.
00:15:37*[Saint] shrugs
00:15:50lebelliumlooks like only you is interested in adding this note
00:15:56lebelliumthat's why I was saying that
00:16:12chrisb[Saint]: oops
00:16:15[Saint]It is looking that way.
00:18:00[Saint]chrisb: no need for opps, it isn't a well known fact I don't think. But, yeah, we've had the simulators and an SDL app for years.
00:18:14[Saint]precisely emulating the hardware isn't particularly interesting.
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00:43:08tertuslotradio is apparently
00:43:20tertuyou bought it and apparently it had a demo disk
00:43:35tertuthe cards had lots of songs on them but you could only skip them and you couldn't pick them out one by one
00:45:46[Saint]Getting slightly offtopic but I remember going to a garage sale once and finding it hilarious that someone had a massive pile of them. The money they must have spent...
00:46:30[Saint]It never really (thankfully) caught on here.
00:46:50[Saint]But we did have to contend with minidisc for a while.
00:47:18[Saint]which is a genuinely ludicrous format.
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00:51:38aphirstsingle-use "radio" microsd cards is just the silliest thing
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06:28:47AldemSo now I have rockbox on my old Sansa e280. Where do you get your plugins ?
06:29:39[Saint]All the plugins that run with Rockbox ship with Rockbox.
06:29:46[Saint]I'm unsure what you mean.
06:30:50AldemI though I saw SPCs plugins somewhere
06:30:55AldemSuper Nintendo music
06:31:51[Saint]We play SPC natively.
06:32:15AldemWhere can I see the natively supported formats ?
06:32:35[Saint]a partial list resides here:
06:32:56[Saint]SPC was added (and since partially extended) in 2006-ish
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06:33:56[Saint]It may be that the e2* just aren't powerful enough and it is disincluded from this target.
06:33:59[Saint]I'm unsure.
06:36:48[Saint]I'm not sure of any plugins that function in the way you're thinking (modular support) due to rather heavy integration with the core.
06:40:08AldemBeen a while since I last played with this sansa
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09:24:37rberthi, ACTION_STD_NEXT is for selecting the next item in main menu or file browser, isn't it?
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09:26:07rbertbecause on my fuzev2 i want to have a temporary fix for my non-working wheel
09:27:15rbertand somehow i don't manage to set { ACTION_STD_PREV, BUTTON_HOME|BUTTON_REL, BUTTON_HOME } correctly
09:28:10rbertI'll be offline soon, but I'll read the backlog and I'll be back
09:31:18rbertoh, I meant ACTION_STD_NEXT instead of ACTION_STD_PREV, but it doesn't work either way
09:32:25rbertbye, when I come back I'll have tested more and post my keymap file, perhaps found a fix
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11:01:13fLiPr3VeRsEhi folks. i'm wondering if there will be any support for the SanDisk Clip Sport.
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11:18:06rockmyipodI just tried to reinstall RockBox on my IPod 6g with emcore. The installation was without any errors but now when I try to boot I get the ATA error. Fallback image boots but no playback. How do I solve this ?
11:20:34TheSeven"the ATA error"? which one?
11:21:26rockmyipodATA error: -2147483542
11:21:40TheSevenalso which version of the rockbox zip file did you extract to it? the one shipped with emcore, or latest development build?
11:23:14rockmyipodI used rockbox utility
11:23:47TheSevenany hardware mods on this ipod?
11:24:03rockmyipodI followed this guide >>
11:24:59rockmyipodI had RockBox running on it before (since past few years). Was giving trouble (Filesystem i guess) so formatted it then reinstalled
11:25:30rockmyipodIm not sure what you mean by hardware mods
11:25:30TheSevenwhat did you use to format it?
11:25:45rockmyipodI used Gparted to format the data partition
11:25:52TheSevenhardware mods as in "hdd replaced by a different model or SSD or SD card or whaterver"
11:25:53rockmyipodthe USMboot was still left on it
11:26:20rockmyipodno hardware mods. Its just as it had come except for software change
11:26:24TheSevenyes, even emcore and the rockbox fallback image should have survived that
11:26:49TheSevenjust extracting the rockbox zip file again (or using RB utility for installation) should have worked
11:26:59TheSevenbut I guess gparted did something to the formatting that rockbox isn't happy about
11:27:21rockmyipodyes it did. Then i went to Tools>>USMBoot .... connected my ipod .... had a 64 GB partition pop up ... and then followed the instructions
11:27:22TheSevenbut emcore didn't reformat it during installation because it was already formatted
11:27:58rockmyipodBut later on i did format it by going into tool>>format data partition
11:28:37rockmyipodwhat do you suggest I should do now ?
11:29:25TheSevenso you reformatted the data partition before installing using RB utility?
11:29:47rockmyipodI have tried reinstalling atleast 3 times ... twice after using Tools from the Ipod menu to Format Data Partition and also Clear Dtabase
11:30:25rockmyipodNot the 1st time. But then when it gave error I did it from ipod menu and tried reinstalling again. It gave same error
11:30:41TheSevenhm, very weird
11:31:12TheSevenanyway, this is ATA error 0x8000006A, let's track that through the code
11:32:09rockmyipodHow do I do that ? (Im sorry Im a noob but I dont mind getting my hands dirty)
11:32:25TheSevenI'll have a quick look
11:33:02TheSevenso you're getting that ATA error ... press ON to debug message?
11:33:14rockmyipodYes ...
11:38:07rockmyipodI did find this >> (check the last post there) ..... but it seems to be more of a workaround than a solution. So not sure about it.
11:39:54TheSevenwhich ipod model is that
11:40:08TheSeven160GB thick? (oldest model classic)
11:40:40TheSeven(2007 model)
11:40:41rockmyipodYeah mine is 160 GB Ipod Classic 6g
11:40:52rockmyipodyep 2007
11:41:00TheSevenok, so the CE-ATA weirdo
11:41:22TheSeventhen I know what's going on, but I thought that would be fixed already...
11:42:10rockmyipodcan it be fixed from my side ?
11:42:22TheSevenit's a fairly simple bug in rockbox's code
11:42:34TheSevenso you need a build with a few lines of code changed
11:42:54TheSeventhat change should really have ended up in the main rockbox code tree long ago, but apparently it didn't, I just checked
11:44:27rockmyipodSo is there a noob friendly how to/ guide ?
11:44:31TheSeven(it apparently went unnoticed because barely anyone has that 2007 160GB model, and only that one is affected)
11:45:44TheSevenwhat basically needs to be done is tolerate an error in these two lines:;a=blob;f=firmware/target/arm/s5l8702/ipod6g/storage_ata-ipod6g.c;h=58060403d5c593cce6c911a0427f2403b9db8492;hb=HEAD#l697
11:46:18TheSeventhe CEATA model just doesn't support those commands, and they aren't critical for operation anyway (they just control the drive's caching behavior)
11:46:42TheSeventhis one as well:;a=blob;f=firmware/target/arm/s5l8702/ipod6g/storage_ata-ipod6g.c;h=58060403d5c593cce6c911a0427f2403b9db8492;hb=HEAD#l1142
11:47:50rockmyipodso how do you suggest I solve it ? Im guessing im gonna have to ditch the Utility tool and the previous guide
11:48:09TheSeventhe utility is just extracting a zip file anyway
11:48:21TheSeventhe problem is generating a patched zip file ;)
11:48:54TheSevenand I guess we should just get that change into git and wait for the autobuild system to generate new files from that
11:49:15rockmyipodSo you will be fixing it from the server side ?
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11:51:07TheSevenprof_wolfff: you don't happen to have a ce-ata ipod by chance? ;)
11:53:44rockmyipodI do :-(
12:01:33rockmyipodTheSeven: not sure what you want me to do ?
12:02:27TheSevenwell if you don't want to roll your own builds, it's probably easiest to go back to an old known-working build (see that thread) for now, and update to the latest development build again after this is fixed
12:03:43rockmyipodI don't mind rolling my own build. But not sure how its done. I know that some lines in the code need to be editted out but how and what to do next ?
12:04:38rockmyipodI was wondering how long before it would be fixed from the server side ?
12:04:54TheSeven if you want to roll a build yourself
12:05:10TheSevenI don't have a build environment around right now so I can't easily give you a testing build
12:05:40TheSevenbut I think we can just commit that change without much testing, can't really make the situation worse than it is right now
12:05:51TheSevenso if you're lucky that change might land within the next few days
12:06:34rockmyipodcool ... I will test my luck then. Trying the fix mentioned in the thread for now. Hope it works.
12:10:30rockmyipodTheSeven: It worked !!! .....
12:11:15rockmyipodThanks ... I see you are one of the develepoers for this amazing Software that helped me get rid of Apple Software and Itunes for ever.
12:12:12rockmyipodThanks for creating this wonderful RockBox. Ill be waiting for the fix. I hope it comes soon (won't be adding much music to it till then).
12:18:45prof_wolfffThe Seven: hi! i don't have CE-ATA, IIRC the problem is not for all CE-ATA, some CE-ATA drives seems to work well
12:22:17TheSevenprof_wolfff: sure? I'm not aware that there even are multiple CE-ATA idks models
12:23:06TheSevenanyway, my suggestion to fix this is just ignoring failure on cache policy SET_FEATURE commands on all disk models, whether ceata or not
12:24:15TheSevenif a disk doesn't claim to support that feature we are just skipping it anyway, but these nasty CE-ATA ones are claiming to support it, yet they fail the command
12:24:58prof_wolfffi recall some people on RB (Saint?) test it on CE-ATA ipod with no errors, i can try to patch it until we get more clues about it
12:25:11prof_wolfffabout the bootloader, ATM i have code for the dual-bootloader and the dfu-installer, it compiles but have never been installed, i hope to have a few free time in the next weeks to try to debug it and post a working version
12:25:20TheSeven[Saint] recently claimed to not even have a working CE-ATA ipod (anymore?)
12:25:46TheSevenwell even if we get more clues about which drives are misbehaving, we can't really do anything else than ignoring it
12:26:15TheSevenso I guess we can just always ignore it - there's just nothing else we could do other than bail out or ignore, the latter seeming more favorable
12:27:00prof_wolfffi agree, will try to patch it ASAP
12:27:16TheSevenso if you have a build environment around (I don't right now), can you have a quick go at just removing the PASS_RC macro wrappers from the ata_set_feature commands in lines 697, 598 and 1142 in storage_ata-ipod6g.c?
12:27:37TheSevenI guess that should take care of it
12:28:07TheSevenand right now we have someone with a ce-ata ipod (but no dev environment) around to actually verify that
12:41:47prof_wolfffi suppose he is rockmyipod, i will send a build to him to test it before commiting
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13:05:52rockmyipodJust tell me what to do and I will be happy to do. Im not registered here though
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13:06:21TheSevenrockmyipod: he'll just send you a zip file that you'll extract to your ipod's root directory (containing the .rockbox folder) when it's ready
13:07:16rockmyipodOk.... btw I did just that from the forum link I posted earlier. That seems to be working for now
13:08:49TheSevenyes, the difference is just that this link points to a somewhat old version of rockbox - if we're lucky the suggested fix will allow an up-to-date rockbox build to work equally well :)
13:09:11TheSeventhe installation process is the same of course, just a different zip file
13:09:20rockmyipodcool :D
13:11:46rockmyipodshow how will this work .... should I drop by again in a couple of days ?
13:16:26TheSevenI'm not sure what's delaying your testing build right now - normally this takes only a few minutes... prof_wolfff?
13:16:31prof_wolfffrockmyipod: please contact me on my e-mail address i have just send to you
13:16:41TheSevenheh, timing ;)
13:17:15TheSevenprof_wolfff: so did I understand that correctly that you basically have a proof of concept RB bootloader + DFU flasher ready?
13:17:27prof_wolfff:) today i am going to be out, will try to do it tonight or tomorrow
13:17:42prof_wolfffyes, it is almost emCORE code ported to rockbox
13:18:44TheSevenok, feel free to ping me if you run into any issues - I guess I have more experience with messing with it at that level, so I might give you some hints ;)
13:20:40prof_wolfffthanks! the dfu-loader is based on the spireader, i am ready to install them on the device, the code was ready a few weeds ago but i have not much time these days
13:20:50rockmyipodprof_wolfff: sent an email
13:23:43rockmyipodprof_wolfff: TheSeven : now that the email has been authenticated I guess ill be off for now.
13:24:16rockmyipodNeedless to say .... you guys are awesome !!! appreciate what you doing here. Thanks !!
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15:42:28georgewhiteHello there!
15:43:01georgewhiteToday, whilst clearing out the house, found a Sansa Clip+, and installed Rockbox on it.
15:43:13georgewhiteIt’s great, but the font is really small.
15:43:35georgewhiteIt’s not that it isn’t readable, it’s just too small.
15:44:04georgewhiteIs it possible to replace it with a much bigger font?
15:44:09ZincAlloyTry a different font or a theme with a bigger font then
15:44:42georgewhiteSo do I go back in to the installer and use the ‘Themes’ checkbox?
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15:44:53ZincAlloyexactly. and make sure to get the font pack.
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15:45:25georgewhiteThanks ZincAlloy
15:45:33georgewhiteI’ll try.
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15:48:02georgewhitex8-staek looks cool, but ‘requires font pack’: do I get that separately?
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15:50:18georgewhiteAh, nevermind: Settings > Theme > Font > Rockbox Mix works very well.
15:50:42georgewhiteI just didn’t think that the themes would apply to tiny, mono displays.
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17:44:38Persitshi, could anyone answer if SansaFuze with Rockbox has shorter battery life?
17:45:03Persitsand does USB chargins work as usual?
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17:48:09Persitshm,the last stable release is from 2013... is still alive?
17:48:22Persitswill be updated eventually?
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17:50:52lebelliumPersits: the development builds are more stable than the 3.13 release
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18:07:02georgewhitelebellium: specifically for the Sansa Fuze, or generally?
18:07:13georgewhiteah OK
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18:18:16Persits@lebellum are you sure?
18:18:23Persitslebellum, are you sure?
18:18:49Persitswhere can I read about that?
18:25:28Persitswhat about USB charging?
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18:32:24lebelliumPersits: USB is not fully stable in Rockbox as in original firmware on Sansa players but it's better in dev builds than in latest release
18:32:45lebelliumnot as stable*
18:33:17Persitshow can I install the dev release instead of stable one? I've downloaded both
18:33:34lebelliumthe easiest way is Rockbox utility
18:33:56Persitsyes, I have chosen the Dev version
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18:34:21lebelliumthen I replaced your current .rockbox directory (release 3.13) with the latest build
18:34:25lebelliumnothing more to do
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18:35:26Persitsjust to verify
18:35:34PersitsI connected the Fuze to the PC
18:35:50Persitsand changed the device to Fuze
18:35:56Persitsin the utility
18:36:41Persitswhat should I choose as TTC engine?
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18:36:57Persitsnow it's SAPI5
18:38:15lebelliumI guess the TTS Engine is used for voice files
18:38:29lebelliumfor blind users mainly
18:38:36lebelliumyou probably don't need it, do you?
18:38:36Persitsthe main use of Fuze is to voice recording
18:38:51PersitsI am not blind
18:39:10lebelliumvoice recording settings are on in Rockbox itself
18:39:12lebelliumnot the utility
18:39:29Persitsare you aware of any benefits in voice recording RB vs Sansa?
18:39:51Persits(RB do you use this abbrev. for Rockbox?
18:39:58lebelliumyes we do
18:40:21Persitsok... so, I just press "Install" and enjoy?
18:40:27Persitsany other considerations?
18:40:43lebelliumwell there are many recording settings in RB which probably aren't in the Sandisk firmware but I don't know if that makes the recording better :)
18:40:57lebelliumcheck the Mountpoint too
18:41:02lebelliumthen press install
18:41:07Persitsjust a sec, hold on
18:42:15Persitsdid not find any 'mintpoint" menu/options
18:42:27Persitswhat is it?
18:42:52lebelliumwhen you changed the device to Fuze
18:43:06lebelliumit was also written "select your device in the filesystem"
18:43:16lebelliumthat's the mountpoint
18:43:42Persitsso I've chosen Fuze
18:43:59PersitsSansa Fuze stable
18:44:07lebelliumthat's the audio player
18:44:11lebelliumnot the mountpoint
18:44:20lebelliumthe mountpoint is the letter
18:44:27lebelliumlike G:\ for example
18:44:49Persitserm, I see
18:45:05Persitsso I have two letter
18:45:12Persitsas I have SD card inside
18:45:16Persitswhat is better?
18:45:23Persitsinternal or external?
18:46:21lebelliumthere is no better, there is a single one working
18:46:25lebelliuminside of course
18:46:53Persits0.6 GiB is ok?
18:47:25Persitsso, let s the game begin?
18:48:03Persitsno any other precausions?
18:48:12lebelliumyes, if that's the 1st RB install, then check the boxes Bootloader, Rockbox at least
18:48:19lebelliumFont pack, themes and game files are optional
18:48:41PersitsIt is the 1st, Bootloader checked
18:48:52Persitsas well as all other options
18:50:18lebelliumit will ask you for the original firmware to install the bootloader
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18:51:00PersitsI have the original installed
18:51:12Persitswhat should I do else?
18:51:25Persitsdownload something?
18:53:20lebelliumif you have FuzeV1 If you have FuzeV2
18:55:24Persitssomething elsE??
18:55:57lebelliumRB utility should do everything for you now
18:56:09Persitslet's do it
18:58:11Persits"packege installation finished successfully"
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18:58:23Persitsshould I press ok?
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19:00:01[Saint]Rockbox can't hurt your device (in theory), you're entirely safe.
19:00:16[Saint]This might seem like a daunting process but it is totally recoverable.
19:00:37PersitsI've read about unbrickability
19:01:03[Saint]These devices can most certainly be bricked.
19:01:12[Saint]Most certainly.
19:01:40[Saint]...however, the installation procedure is widely tested and considered safe for all intents and purposes.
19:02:12[Saint]it is only really the iPod targets that fall into the category of unbrickable.
19:03:07Persitsok.... now I missed that after every change in "Device" category, the build is changed to "stable" automatically
19:03:09[Saint]but even then it is possible to (deliberately, or with sufficient effort) get yourself into silly states.
19:03:26Persitsso, I want to install the dev version
19:03:53Persitsshould I choose any other options in addition to "dev release"?
19:04:09[Saint]not if you have already installed the bootloader, no.
19:04:09lebelliumwell, only check the RB box
19:04:12Persits"mounting is wrong"
19:04:45Persitsnow, I have only "F" option
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19:05:14Persits"mountpoint does not exist"
19:05:54lebelliumdid you disconnect the device from the computer after RB utility completed the install process? Is it connected right now?
19:06:35lebelliumyou should first finish the install process, i.e. power on the device, it will upgrade the firmware with the new bootloader
19:06:46lebelliumthen you can replace the release with the current dev build
19:07:01Persitsof couse it was disconnected to the the first firmware update
19:07:14Persits"silly state"
19:09:39Persitslovely bloody cool!
19:11:10PersitsI play blood Doom! I can't believe it
19:11:16PersitsCan't believe it
19:11:31lebelliumI thought you would check the recording feature first :)
19:11:40PersitsI ve checked
19:11:45Persitsyou are right
19:11:56Persitsthere are almost 20 options
19:12:02Persitswill learn it now
19:12:42Persitsunbelievable transformation
19:13:06PersitsThanks a lot for help!!
19:13:21lebelliumyou're welcome :)
19:19:25Persitsaddictive device
19:20:24Persitsback to "Doom" just in case: is there the way to open the doors?
19:20:50Persitsor press the "buttons"?
19:24:47Persitshm... how?
19:25:21[Saint]if I recall correctly this is done by just making forward motion forward+action
19:25:44[Saint]so walking into doors or switches should operate them.
19:26:45Persitswhere I delete the files?
19:26:55PersitsI recorded something
19:27:13Persitsand wonna delete it, I see only play options
19:29:59[Saint]might I suggest reading our fine user manual.
19:30:52Persitsyep... I understand
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19:57:01Persitswow 10Mb per minute voice recording... could you recomment more compressive format?
19:59:16Persitswhat does it mean "delete failed"?
19:59:27Persitsdid not find anything in the help file
19:59:38lebelliumMPEG Layer 3 should be enough for the poor internal mic :)
20:00:09Persitsah, format you mean?
20:00:31Persitsok, will find it
20:00:42Persitsbut why cannot I delete the file?
20:00:47lebelliumI don't think you would hear a difference with anything better than MP3 128kbps for voice recording
20:01:12lebelliumMaybe it's currently in use?
20:01:22Persitsjust realize it
20:01:28Persitssorry for bothering you
20:02:13Persitsgreat experience!
20:07:18Persitsthanks for help, great community!
20:07:20Persitsc u
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21:00:52Persitsguys, could you navigate me to browser based irc gate?
21:02:06Persitsups, just found
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21:37:14PersitsQ: can I just disconnect the RB-SansaFuze from the Windows based PC (instead of "Remove safely"?
21:53:27Persits:( I always just removed it
21:53:43Persitsok, will remove it safely
21:53:54PersitsWhat about MacOS?
21:54:16soapsame thing for same reason.
21:54:35Persitsdid you state the reason?
21:54:51Persitsok, anyway... I will eject it safely
21:54:58soapI assume one knows why "remove safely" is the suggested option.
21:55:52Persitsit was essential years ago, but then I stopped using Windows
21:56:02Persitsthus I am not updated
21:56:13Persitsuse it occasionally
21:58:35Persitsunbelievable, my Fuze now alive again!
21:59:01Persitseven Recording is adjustable
21:59:08Persitsgreat work
21:59:33[Saint]Essentially - when you write something to a removable disk, it might not actually be flushed out to the storage medium until you hit safely remove.
21:59:51[Saint]that ensures write buffers are written before the drive is removed.
22:00:09PersitsSaint, thanks... now I now it for sure (was not sure about)
22:01:22[Saint]some systems might have less aggressive cahing than others, or have write caching disabled, which might make it seem like this is not an important thing to do.
22:01:34[Saint]but one should always safely remove removable volumes.
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22:13:26PersitsSaint, what do you mean be s/caching/caching?
22:13:34PersitsHow can I explore these dirs?
22:17:10Persitsor it was just an example?
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22:51:41PersitsGuys, could you plz tell how frequently the dev versions are updated (approx)?
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22:53:23[Saint]every time there is a commit to the codebase.
22:55:24Persitsis it on an everyday basis?
22:55:30Persitsonce a week?
22:55:38[Saint]when it happens.
22:55:47lebelliumyou can have a look at the frequency here
22:56:08lebelliumit used to be very often, now it's just sometimes
22:56:55[Saint]depends how bored pamaury and wodz are. :p
22:58:45Persitsis it nickname?
22:58:55Persitsis it a nickname?
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22:59:15Persitsi c
22:59:37lebelliumremove the "p" and it's his name :)
22:59:49pamauryI'm there but too busy, tomorrow is my phd defense
22:59:56[Saint]it's still his name with the p. ;)
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23:00:38lebelliumso starting from the day after tomorrow you'll break a new commits record? \o/
23:01:20PersitsI wish you good luck!
23:02:13PersitsAnd hope you will eventually be bored to contribute some updates
23:02:38Persitshm, how you tell "Good luck" in French?
23:02:43lebelliumbonne chance
23:02:56PersitsOui, bonne chance!
23:04:00PersitsJe ne parle pas francais :)
23:04:24[Saint]J'aime le fromage
23:05:01PersitsPourtant... j'aim
23:05:33Persitsquelle fromage?
23:05:42lebelliumclown discussions about french should be on #rockbox-community :)
23:06:22PersitsI am intoxicated by RB euphory
23:13:20PersitsQ: in the Help file there is "Home+LEft" and "Home+Right" combinations for virt.keyboard, but I cannot make it working
23:13:32Persitswhy is that?
23:23:35PersitsAre there plans to add some bookmarks to the audio files?
23:23:52Persitslike for audio-books?
23:27:12[Saint]*cough* manual *cough*
23:27:26Persitsit already exists!
23:27:46[Saint]which is why reading the manual is a Very Good Thing(TM).
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23:28:44*[Saint] thinks "wait until s/he discovers the full theme engine"
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23:32:25Persitshm, I cannot rename bookmarks like "part 2" part 3 etc :)
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23:40:43Persitsif the file was renamed after bookmarks were made they won't work
23:40:46Persitsis it bug?
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