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#rockbox log for 2015-07-20

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03:24:41[Saint]Real talk - is there any actual point in going after "ROckbox as a standalone playback library" or do we just use ffmpeg and wrap our shit around it in native code?
03:25:46[Saint]If Mr. Someone does it, I'd be very happy to wrap an Android native UI around it...but, I think I'm starting to see why Mr. SOmeone hasn't done it.
03:25:57[Saint]It seems to be largely a fools errand.
03:26:57[Saint]Our heavey ARM optimizations don't really mattery two shits for modern architectures do they?
03:27:43[Saint]*paging - someone with a clue, come in, someone with a clue...*
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08:26:18wodz[Saint]: Modern SoCs have FPU/SIMD units which makes our integer implementations pretty obsolete. We are better then stock decoders still but this is hugely irrelevant now.
08:31:06wodzIt may still matter on really lowend side like Cortex M3/4/7 http://pl.farnell.com/stmicroelectronics/stm32f746g-disco/dev-kit-discovery-cortex-m7-stm32f7/dp/2480961?searchRef=SearchLookAhead
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13:56:29dongswodz: when is rockbox coming to that
13:56:33dongsi think it has all the requirements
13:57:29wodzdongs: When someone takes the opportunity to do the work and port rb to this platform.
13:57:44dongsoh my i hope that day is soon!
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14:01:28wodzmy feeling is quite opposite :-)
14:01:57dongsi'm sure spending time improving ipod 2nd generation support is probably more well spent.
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14:09:22wodzgo ahead! sure
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17:26:22saratogai think our decoder library is still pretty useful because we've worked out all the painful details for things like gapless, low memory usage, etc
17:26:44saratogafixed point might be pretty useless, but it probably doesn't hurt
17:27:04saratogaand for lossless formats which are fixed point anyway, we're usually very fast
17:27:29saratogai guess if someone wants to do an android rewrite, i'd say write a basic android music player using the stock decoder, then add support for linking against the codec lib
17:27:37saratogato get all the other audio formats
17:27:45saratogaand go from there
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23:33:51EYHi. Been using ROCKbox on a Sansa Clip+ for a couple of days. Finding it amazing. So, thanks for the awesome work, guys.
23:35:17EYOne thing that should probably be made clearer in the manual is how to enable rating in rockbox. I found out that I need to turn on Gather runtime data, but that is not obvious.
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23:41:03EYAlso, is there a way to disable the amp in the Clip+ so it can be connected as a line-out to a receiver?
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23:49:02saratogaEY: just plug into the jack, same as headphones
23:54:34EYsaratoga: oh, i thought the sound might be distorted if double-amped.
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