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#rockbox log for 2015-08-04

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10:58:32EG_WorkGreetings!
10:59:58EG_WorkI was super stoked to find that Rockbox now can run on the Xuelin IHIFI 960. I'm totally going to blow it into the thing when i get home :D
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11:01:52wodzReport back your experience. There are very little userbase of this player
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11:06:43EG_WorkI sure will!
11:07:00EG_WorkYeah, it's' a bit of a shame really, because it's a very nice bit of kit. It sounds amazing for the money
11:07:14EG_WorkIt seems to be somewhat popular in Russia of all places
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20:35:02Electricguyhm, that's very annoying..
20:35:34ElectricguyI was about to put Rockbox on my IHIFI 960, but the RK27 Upgrade program doesn't detect the device...
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22:14:26[Franklin]Ivoah: are you still working on porting sl?
22:14:38Ivoah[Franklin]: nope
22:14:42IvoahI gave up
22:14:46[Franklin]aww
22:14:54[Franklin]I'm working on something slightly similar
22:15:00Ivoahwhat?
22:15:05[Franklin]ascii star wars player
22:15:11[Franklin](curses-based)
22:15:27Ivoahah, nice
22:16:30[Franklin]I thought you might have some curses-related code for rockbox
22:17:49Ivoahnope, sorry
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22:26:17[Franklin]does rockbox include getline()?
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22:27:12wodzPorting ncurses? Brave idea :-)
22:27:27[Franklin]not the whole thing
22:27:35[Franklin]just enough to play ascii starwars :P
22:27:47[Franklin]not porting, either
22:27:49[Franklin]rewrite
22:28:56wodzah, sounds more reasonable
22:29:17[Franklin]maybe sl if Ivoah wants to do it :P
22:29:30wodzwhat is sl?
22:29:38[Franklin]steam locomotive
22:29:42[Franklin]it's a joke
22:29:46IvoahWell, doesn't rockbox provide functions for displaying chars at a location?
22:29:54[Franklin]yes
22:29:59wodzit does
22:30:14[Franklin]wodz: https://github.com/mtoyoda/sl
22:30:45Ivoahwell, that's all that sl really neads
22:30:49Ivoah*needs
22:31:10[Franklin]just at a glance, you'll only need to write one or two wrapper functions to get it to work
22:31:22[Franklin]mvaddch and refresh
22:31:32Ivoahyeah, it's not hard
22:31:40Ivoahjust kinda gave up
22:31:40[Franklin]everything else is useless and can be gutted
22:31:45wodzlol, I though you guys want to do something productive :P
22:32:01[Franklin]got any ideas?
22:33:12Ivoahwodz: nah, productivity is lame :p
22:33:32[Franklin]I had the idea of an audio editor a while back
22:36:39wodzLots of. Without any particular order: 1) fix nano2g usb 2) figure out whats wrong with rk27xx usb driver 3) write bootloader for classic 4) make classic dualboot 5) pickup pamaury's work on usb audio 6) pickup my work on elf loader 7) Do the stable release 8) port to X3/X5 9) Do clean port of espeak 10) do clean port of flite
22:36:49wodz[Franklin]: is 10 items enough?
22:37:57[Franklin]no's 6, 7, 9, and 10 sound interesting to me
22:38:37[Franklin]now what's flite?
22:38:58wodz9) is rather easy but quite a bit of work 10) is possible according to my preliminary studies
22:39:24[Franklin]what do you mean by "clean port"
22:39:28wodzhttp://www.festvox.org/flite/
22:39:28[Franklin]license-wise?
22:40:12wodzBy clean port I mean write proper wrappers and leave most of original code intact.
22:40:21[Franklin]ah
22:40:41*[Franklin] isn't very good at the second task!
22:41:08wodzThere was port of espeak previously but it was horrible hack which makes it unmaintainable as integrating upstream changes was almost the same work as original porting
22:41:20[Franklin]yeah
22:42:22[Franklin]ok, flite claims to be "portable C"
22:42:23wodzlicense wise espeak is currently gpl v3. We meet agreement that plugins can be v3 IF it is possible with simple configure switch to perform clean v2+ build
22:42:52wodz[Franklin]: The problem with flite is memory management. It is very malloc intensive.
22:43:21[Franklin]malloc alone is no big deal...
22:43:32[Franklin]it's free() that causes problems
22:43:59wodz[Franklin]: However I did some tests and it is perfectly possible to have 'static' pool from where you do short leaved allocations and from time to time you do massive purge
22:44:21wodz*lived*
22:45:38[Franklin]espeak is supposedly C++
22:45:46wodzAFAIK there is also a need to split resources into runtime loadable items. Flite by iteself compiles everything into giant blob.
22:45:53[Franklin]though I don't see that many C++-only features being used at a glance
22:46:25wodzespeak is almost C. A few c++ casts + 3 or 4 references instead of raw pointers. Nothing fancy
22:47:11wodzI have even somewhere patch which converts stok espeak sources to plain C
22:47:27[Franklin]how recent?
22:48:03wodzlet me check
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22:54:19[Franklin]not bad
22:54:23[Franklin]link?
22:56:04wodzonly my local tree :-)
22:56:35[Franklin]lol
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23:03:54wodzAnyway compiling as C is the easiest part. Borrowing some missing clib functions from newlib or something is a bit more involved. And (maybe only for me) gluing audio output to rb is the most complicated.
23:05:03[Franklin]it's not just you ;)
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23:06:41[Franklin]anyway, I'll contact the author of ASCII star wars and see if he minds it being distributed as a plugin
23:06:53[Franklin]if he dissents, I could make it read from a file, I guess
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23:25:54[Franklin]yay
23:25:55[Franklin]it works
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23:32:49[Franklin]but... the screen is too small :(
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23:36:53[Franklin]how should a plugin best deal with fonts?
23:37:06[Franklin]can I safely assume that the fonts will be present?
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23:46:10[Franklin]ugh
23:46:11[Franklin]can't push

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