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#rockbox log for 2015-10-19

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00:14:56[Franklin]Len: the quality of an ipod is worth the price
00:17:01[Franklin]whereas the sansas quite honestly feel like cheap plastic junk, the ipods have anodized aluminum covers and shiny cases :)
00:17:11Lenmm
00:17:14Lenidk about cover
00:17:18Lenit's... just a cover
00:17:20Lenq.q
00:18:58[Franklin]their hardware quality is virtually unmatched, though the prices have shot through the roof recently when apple discontinued them
00:24:46Lenmy friend got 5.5g told me that after month of using mobo died :p
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00:52:01[Saint]small sample base is small
00:52:25[Saint]I could also tell you a LOT of stories about Sansas NANDs just abruptly dying.
00:52:42[Saint]But, again, small sample base is small.
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06:30:48YogurtHey all
06:31:39Yogurtany movement on the sansa clip sport/jam port?
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12:09:06wodzpamaury: found the bug in hwstub_server which caused wrong recovery after failed read.
12:09:19pamaurynice, what is it ?
12:12:15wodzon error condition server was throwing random data instead of error packet
12:12:51wodzthis filled input buffer on client side and killed any subsequent commands that way
12:14:06pamauryoh indeed
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12:48:11wodzpamaury: What kind of discrepancies in 476x docs you were talking?
12:48:43pamauryfor example the doc says the USB controller has 5 DMA channels, but the header only has 2
12:49:18pamaurydiscrepancies in the register names too (small typos I guess)
12:49:51wodzit could be they didn't use more then 2 dma channels hence not in headers
12:50:36pamaurypossibly, to be honest I haven't looked how the usb dev works so I don't know what the dma channels are here for
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17:03:47Lenhoh, not so bad with my sansa clip zip battery
17:04:04Lenhttp://wklej.org/hash/49987dbdcd7/ ; 320kbps looped playlisty, -10dB, creative aurvana live plugged in
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22:16:11kanthi
22:16:27kantI can't seem to find instructions on how to install a theme on the android port of rockbox
22:17:46kantcan anyone please give me a hand with this?
22:17:58pamaurykant: all ports work the same (as far I as know), so you need to put in the themes/ subdirectory of where rockbox is installed
22:18:22pamaurynow I admit I don't know where it is installed on android, maybe someone else on the cannel can answer
22:18:27pamaury[Saint] ?
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22:19:09kantthe .zip, or the uncompressed .zip?
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22:19:50pamaurykant: uncompressed
22:20:05kantI see, thanks
22:20:51pamauryI mean, I don't really know how the android port works, I guess you need to install stuff so I think it's probably better to put your theme *after* installation but don't take my word for the truth :)
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22:31:20[Saint] /sdcard, /sdcard0, /internal, ...whatever of the myriad softlinks that exist for backcompat on your device that points to the primary user storage volume is.
22:32:13[Saint]you'll know it when you see it, there'll be a rockbox directory there.
22:32:56[Saint](because of the nature of Android and the way it handles user storage voumes I can't actually give you a direct path because there's at least a dozen possible permutations thereof)
22:33:03[Saint]pamaury: kant: ^
22:34:14[Saint]If your device has both physical and emulated sd storage (very common), preference is given to the emulated storage (like every other application)
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22:41:33kantah, I see the directory
22:41:37kantjust unzip there?
22:44:26kantIt worked :-D
22:44:27[Saint]I think you'll have to place it manually, since the themes expect /.rockbox and android uses */rockbox
22:44:48[Saint]but I guess it depends on how the author packaged it.
22:45:44[Saint]I guess the author took care of that, seeing as how the themesite doesn't have any support for Android targets, I'm guessing this was acquired from a third party.
22:46:13[Saint]...god, it's not one of mine, is it?
22:46:39[Saint]If it is, I apologize in advance.
22:47:05kanttook the build from here rasher.dk/rockbox/android/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/android/
22:47:22kantand the theme is rockdroid from here http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=48524.0
22:47:59[Saint]Ah. I see.
22:48:25[Saint]My man Zinc knows what he's doing. You won't have any issues here.
22:48:38*gevaerts puts [Saint]'s apology safely away to be used another time
22:48:48[Saint]There is, however, a lot of theme authors who have absolutely no clue what they are doing.
22:49:10[Saint]And, for lack of a better or more delicate way of putting it, throw shit at the wall until something sticks.
22:50:09[Saint]There's a couple of things about that theme that annoy me, but, it's a good theme.
22:50:24kantthat seems to be the mode of UI development for most of the software I encounter...
22:50:25[Saint]My only dislike is that UI viewport in the SBS.
22:50:47gevaertsAnd then there's those people who try to push the envelope and end up with themes that need experimental hacks to barely work at all :)
22:51:25[Saint]Menu text being hard against the left side of the framebuffer is annoying, but, this is easy to fix.
22:51:32kantlock screen integration seems to be missing, I assume it's in development
22:51:46[Saint]gevaerts: I....I have no idea who you might be talking about...
22:51:49[Saint]*whistles*
22:52:01[Saint]kant: nope
22:52:07gevaerts[Saint]: not JdGordon, that's all I know :)
22:52:37[Saint]kant: there's absolutely nothing about Rockbox for Android that is still in development
22:53:01[Saint]It is, for lack of a better way of putting it, developmentally deceased.
22:53:09kantah
22:53:38[Saint]At the time, it seemed like the best possible approach for us.
22:54:04[Saint]As Android matured, it bacame clear that it would have been incredibly difficult to do anything more wrong.
22:54:15kantxD
22:54:44[Saint]I can even make an educated guess about what Android version you're using.
22:54:54[Saint]Since we fail outright on anything higher than 4.4.4
22:55:05kant4.4.4
22:55:35[Saint]Ok. If you like it to keep functioning, don't switch the runtime library to ART.
22:55:45[Saint]Keep with Dalvik.
22:55:50gevaertsThe good news is, if you're using 4.4.4 today chances are you won't get a manufacturer-provided 5.0, so you're safe :)
22:55:58[Saint]Hahahahahaha. :)
22:56:27kantyeah, but I've already discovered that rockbox doesn't do what I want (lock screen integration)
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22:56:38kant:/
22:56:57gartralhey guys, long time no talk!
22:57:17kantgotta go, my work day just finished
22:57:19kantsee ya
22:57:22[Saint]kant: long-pressing volume buttons on the lockscreen should work as seek/skip modifiers.
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22:57:39[Saint]though some OEMs disable that for some unknown reason.
22:57:42[Saint]I...bah.
22:59:15gartralso, i was digging through my closet today and I found a relic! an iRiver iHP-140 with rockbox svn 5513c6d-120322
22:59:50[Saint]Holy crap.
23:00
23:00:06[Saint]archeology.rock
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23:01:02gevaertsThat's not *that* old, considering how fast development is lately
23:01:30[Saint]It could be worse, I guess.
23:01:36[Saint]...could be using the release. ;)
23:01:36gartral[Saint]: this particular iRiver is actually kinda special to me.. it came from the rockbox community! someone who was looking to donate it too a good home from england /overnighted/ the thing to me, i'm in the us!
23:01:57[Saint]gartral: ah, yes. I actually remember that.
23:02:01[Saint]SMall world.
23:02:50gartrali've been thinking of picking up development again... but yeesh, that toolkit you guys use >.>
23:03:32[Saint]If you like, I can package up 64 bit linux toolchains for you.
23:04:13gartralmaybe, we'll see, I did just get done building a new computer
23:05:21gartralthis iriver's battery is toast :/
23:05:55[Saint]I would be amazed if it wasn't.
23:06:28gartraland ipod 2g-style batteries are hard to come by anymore
23:07:15gartralmaybe I could hack in an old cellphone battery
23:07:25[Saint]a wide range of cells will fit in the iHP-* devices.
23:08:18*[Saint] decides to write a wrapper script to download the toolchains directly from his server instead of compiling them from scratch.
23:08:33[Saint]if we ever actually updated or modified the toolchains, I might see the point.
23:08:49[Saint]But, I'll just start supplying them pre-baked, I guess.
23:08:54[Saint]Makes a lot more sense to me.
23:09:46gartralwhy don't you add them pre-baked to a host site?
23:12:49[Saint]gartral: see below.
23:12:49[Saint]gartral: http://www.datafilehost.com/d/45d024f8 - rockbox-toolchains-x86_64_20150815.zip
23:12:49[Saint]gartral: http://www.datafilehost.com/d/b278d950 - rockbox-toolchains-bin-only-x86_64_20150815.zip
23:13:24[Saint]there's no need for the former link unless you intend to do some reversing on the binaries.
23:13:48[Saint]The *-bin-only package is entirely sufficient to build for all our targets except Android.
23:14:14[Saint]I am also happy to assist you in setting up an Android environment, or, exporting my own.
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23:15:25[Saint]the archives are ~120MB and ~25MB respectively.
23:16:21[Saint]approximately ~400MB and ~75MB respectively when extracted.
23:18:01[Saint]If you're in any form of debian-esque environment, you can simply extract the *-bin-only archive to ~ and it will "Just Work" as ~/bin (if it exists) is automatically added to the $PATH by .bashrc
23:18:40[Saint]You will, however, still require our build-essential tools.
23:19:25[Saint]'automake bison build-essential ccache flex libc6-dev libgmp3-dev libmpfr-dev libsdl1.2-dev libtool texinfo'
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23:43:36autofsckkhello, i have a problem with my classic 160G ipod with rockbox, i cant read the files from anywhere, i think it is because i deleted the .Trash-1000 folder :/ any idea on how can i fix it?
23:45:05autofsckki can still use it though, i can hear music with my headphones, but i cant copy, delete files anymore
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