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#rockbox log for 2016-05-17

00:01:40ulmutulI think this is why in the mentioned FS discussion people were against defining HAVE_LCD_ENABLE at all (because it wouldn't do anything)
00:02:14kugelipodvideo (has transflective display) doesn't define LCD_ENABLE so it looks you're right
00:03:14ulmutulI looked in the ipodmini config, and it only has HAVE_LCD_SHUTDOWN defined.
00:03:29ulmutulI'll look in ipodvideo as well
00:04:08kugeli think on the ipodvideo it's implemented pretty much as you envision so just follow what it does
00:04:58ulmutulOh, there's even a "HAVE_TRANSFLECTIVE_LCD" :)
00:05:28kugelbut calling lcd_enable() is done by the backlight drivers so it's really up to you
00:06:00kugeli think you only get the setting with LCD_SLEEP so that may be why ipodvideo doesn't use LCD_ENABLE
00:06:35kugel(the additional "disable display after backlight off timeout" setting"
00:06:40kugel)
00:08:12ulmutulOK, I'll definitely use ipodvideo as a source of inspiration ;)
00:12:15kugelI've doe a lot for backlight and display power saving but it's really long agi
00:12:16kugelago
00:15:15ulmutulI'll battery bench again now with backlight always on.
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02:37:31lnxvHey. I stupidly uploaded something to my Clip Plus that I shouldn't have. I need to shred it. My question is:
02:38:03lnxvThere is shredding software with an 'overwrite all free data' function, which I understand is necessary in this kind of drives.
02:38:53lnxvIs it safe to run it on Sansas? In the sense −− it won't permanently erase the bootloading program or anything? Or will it?
02:39:58lnxvPerhaps the question is: is the core code necessary to run the firmware/Rockbox on the same 'partition' or something as the regular 2..8 GB player memory?
02:40:28lnxv*'overwrite all free space'
02:41:14lnxvOf course I'll make the backups etc. −− I just wonder about the chance of bricking.
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04:47:50lnxvAny ideas? How do you reckon?
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04:51:44saratogalnxv: you can erase the user-accessible part of the storage, but you'll have to copy a new .rockbox folder over when you're done
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04:52:58lnxvsaratoga: I'm not sure that's what I'm asking about. I'm talking about software that has a 'erase all space on a device/partition/? that isn't used by anything' feature.
04:53:22lnxvUsed to erase traces of files so to prevent undeleting.
04:53:26lnxvCan I safely do that?
04:53:35saratogayes
04:53:58lnxvWon't it damage some part of the storage necessary for booting?
04:54:12saratogayou can do whatever you want, but if you want the player to boot you have to end up with a .rockbox folder
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04:54:55lnxv(For the record, I have an app called 'BleachBit' in mind.)
04:58:21lnxvI'm asking, because the firmware/the bootloader/whatever isn't, strictly speaking, 'user-accessible', so I'm asking whether that app has the power to erase something that can't be repaired.
04:58:50lnxvProbably not, but better safe than sorry. Apologies for belabouring the point too.
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05:12:11lnxv... http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaViewFirmwarePartition says there's a separate partition. So perhaps it's going to be fine.
05:13:54saratogayou really can do whatever you want so long as you put the .rockbox folder back in place when you're done
05:14:05saratogadoesn't matter what you put in place of 'anything'
05:16:21lnxvThe .rockbox dir won't even be affected by the feature I'm describing. :)
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05:17:18shadowsuh..... Raspberry Pi in the news, new VC4 blob replacement available... full open source bare metal code on RasPi
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05:35:08shadowshttps://shop.pimoroni.com/products/phat-dac plus uh... rockbox implementation would be something
05:35:25shadowsor I guess could just run Linux but wheres the fun in that
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11:08:14fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3Build round completed after 135884 seconds.
11:08:16fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3Revision 44ce4ee result: 2 errors 0 warnings
11:08:17fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 00a3658, 255 builds, 15 clients.
11:09:15*gevaerts restarted his build client
11:09:51gevaertsApparently I hadn't done that at the last reboot, and there doesn't seem to be any other android builder online
11:17:45fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3Build round completed after 569 seconds.
11:17:46fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3Revision 00a3658 result: 2 errors 0 warnings
11:18:37*gevaerts is confused
11:18:41gevaertsWhere are the errors?
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11:33:09b0hoonIf there is a person who has installed this piece of crap on debian 8, and knows what to do i would be grateful for some help and i could set up it on my vms
11:33:12b0hoonhttp://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20160427#11:57:13
11:33:38b0hoonYP-R0 and R1 i suppose
11:33:55b0hoon:)
11:34:16duo8lol
11:34:28duo8everyone know you have to set it up on gentoo
11:35:02b0hoonduo8: well i have virtualized debian so no gentoo
11:35:25b0hoonplease... :P
11:35:45duo8what is it anw?
11:36:32b0hoonduo8: what do you mean?
11:37:12gevaertsb0hoon: if you figure out how to fix that, you'll be hailed as a hero!
11:37:24b0hoonduo8: i can't setup a build env for samsung yp-r0
11:38:06b0hoongevaerts: yeah, but for now i give up
11:38:47duo8have you tried another target?
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11:39:18gevaertsduo8: I suspect you didn't actually understand the question
11:39:37duo8well i've only seen the output
11:39:40b0hoonduo8: i have everything except build env for android and this
11:41:54gevaertsb0hoon: from what I understand, that version of crosstools-ng not only suffers from the usual issues with newer compilers, but it also doesn't like non-ancient gnu make
11:42:30duo8is rockbox relying on deprecated softwares?
11:42:35gevaertsWhich makes things more interesting that usual
11:44:15gevaertsduo8: rockbox relies on people doing the work to maintain things, and lately those people just aren't there
11:44:44gevaertsUpdating toolchains requires work and testing
11:45:58b0hoongevaerts: yes and i can't cope with it now, dependencies are very tight, i'v tried to change things (packages) and one thing complicates another
11:46:16gevaertsb0hoon: I know. I've tried too :)
11:46:44duo8LFS?
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12:28:31gevaertsOld archives
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14:10:56pamauryb0hoon: see the recent logs, short answer is disable cloog (it's a configure option I guess)
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15:03:09b0hoonpamaury: ok, thanks i'll read it
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