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| 00:29:36 | __builtin | hmm, maybe I could make the OTP plugin type the OTP for you :D |
| 00:29:58 | __builtin | after all, I did write ducky a while back |
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| 00:50:25 | __builtin | n1cky_: I just added the ability to type passwords over USB, would you be willing to test? |
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| 00:51:46 | __builtin | (after I get it to compile, that is) |
| 00:57:43 | __builtin | actually it seems that HID on the clip zip is broken |
| 00:58:04 | __builtin | so never mind |
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| 02:31:57 | n1cky_ | __builtin: Aww that's really too bad; that's a feature I'd be really interested in |
| 02:32:28 | n1cky_ | __builtin: have you got a source for HID being broken? |
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| 03:26:02 | * | __builtin will try to maintain backwards compatibility for the plugin from now on |
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| 05:14:24 | fishbulb | hey if I install a drive with nothing on it into my player with a rockbox bootloader |
| 05:14:27 | fishbulb | can I install shit |
| 05:14:31 | fishbulb | and format the drive |
| 05:14:50 | fishbulb | it's an iriver h340 and I have a msata SSD and all the adapters |
| 05:14:59 | fishbulb | to get it inside the device |
| 05:15:34 | fishbulb | BUT if the drive is blank or NTFS or whatever, I have to format it to fat32, and the standard firmware doesn't support this drive setup |
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| 05:17:45 | fishbulb | so can I format the thing with the drive in there? |
| 05:18:04 | fishbulb | or do I have to put the drive into another computer, and then format and blah blah |
| 05:18:41 | fishbulb | then put it into the rockboxed player. can you rockbox a player that has a hard drive which is blank? |
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| 07:07:07 | fishbulb | how do I rockbox a player in linux |
| 07:07:27 | fishbulb | windows 10 doesn't recognise the working player I have and sure as fuck doesn't detect the ssd I have in this device |
| 07:07:48 | fishbulb | which I'm not sure is formatted or anything, I get ata -1 error sometimes, or a white screen for way too long |
| 07:08:26 | fishbulb | can I put an unformatted msata ssd into a player and format it through the usb port or should I copy the contents of the old spinning hard drive to the msata first, then try booting |
| 07:08:50 | fishbulb | and how the hell do you install rockbox with this windows 10 shit that won't even detect a fully functional one? |
| 07:09:06 | [Saint] | Someone really needs to write down full manual and guided installation instructions and compile it into some form of documentation, a manual if you will, and upload it to rockbox.org |
| 07:09:11 | [Saint] | that would really hlep. |
| 07:09:13 | fishbulb | the bootloader is on there, it either comes up with ata -1 error while booting |
| 07:09:18 | fishbulb | or it hangs |
| 07:09:50 | fishbulb | so you're fully aware of all the snags with the iriver h340 msata SSD conversion then |
| 07:10:09 | fishbulb | and it's just unwritten |
| 07:10:18 | fishbulb | or are you being a shit head and literally saying "rtfm" |
| 07:10:42 | fishbulb | because that's a worthless piece of advice, I'm looking at the manual |
| 07:12:28 | fishbulb | ata-11 is nothing connected, that comes up when the cables are connected wrong, or there's literally nothing connected to the player |
| 07:13:23 | fishbulb | ata-1 comes up after about a minute of the thing trying to boot, or less regularly it will hang at the boot screen and not detect the drive. I don't know if the drive is formatted or anything like that, it's an MSATA SSD and there are adapters that eventually connect it to ATA |
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| 07:13:38 | [Saint] | If you're looking at the manual you should be able to clearly see the linux applicable manual installation instructions. |
| 07:13:48 | fishbulb | the bootloader is installed |
| 07:13:54 | [Saint] | that won't magically help you if you have non-standard hardware however. |
| 07:14:19 | fishbulb | so you're saying the answer is in the documentation |
| 07:14:38 | fishbulb | because it sounds to me like you're just saying "rtfm" becuase you have no clue |
| 07:14:49 | [Saint] | you asked 'how do I rockbox a player in linux', the manual answers this. |
| 07:15:09 | [Saint] | it does NOT answer 'How do I make my VERY specific case of non-standard hardware work" |
| 07:15:25 | fishbulb | thanks for the worthless advice |
| 07:16:29 | [Saint] | FOr answering your question, you mean? Yeah, no problems. |
| 07:17:01 | Galois | I would expect it to be worthless. Ripping apart your mp3 player and swapping out hardware components is not going to be in the manual of, you know, a software project whose main purpose is to work on unmodified hardware. |
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| 07:17:17 | fishbulb | it was very clear what my actual question was, you just parroted "RTFM" and pretended like I wasn't talking about an extremely specific problem |
| 07:17:22 | [Saint] | Fukken bingo. |
| 07:17:25 | fishbulb | and including hte error message |
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| 07:17:55 | fishbulb | ok so don't fucking answer, if you don't know the answer, don't bleat "RTFM" like that's some revalation nobody has ever thought of |
| 07:18:16 | [Saint] | Your question was "how do I rockbox a player in linux" |
| 07:18:22 | [Saint] | fuck me for taking it literally, right? |
| 07:18:23 | fishbulb | fuck off you idiot |
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| 07:18:46 | [Saint] | ...come again? |
| 07:19:17 | fishbulb | I said fuck off. you are ignoring about 30 lines of text and telling me what my actual question is |
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| 07:52:49 | trampith | Is work on the AndroidPort still in progress or is it dead, will there be a supported port at the end? I could download a daily build apk at rasher's site and install it, but it doesn't work - what has to go into the rockbox folder to get it work? Is that possible to get it running without building rockbox from sources on my own? Thanks for hints. |
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| 07:56:18 | pixelma | [Saint]: you should have kicked yourself from the channel too at this point |
| 07:58:47 | [Saint] | pixelma: cool story |
| 07:59:15 | [Saint] | trampith: if you're on Android 5.0 or higher, nothing you do will allow it to function. |
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| 08:00:06 | [Saint] | And, no, there is no ongoing development. |
| 08:01:08 | [Saint] | regarding 'what has to go in the rockbox folder to get it to work", strictly speaking, nothing. |
| 08:01:40 | [Saint] | anything therein isn't a hard requirement to functionality. |
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| 08:09:45 | trampith | Saint: OK, I see, I use 5.0. It's a pity. Someone should update the website regarding the AndroidPort and add this information. Thank you very much! |
| 08:09:53 | [Saint] | trampith: actually, if you specifically elected to use the ART runtime on 4.4, it won't function there either. |
| 08:10:03 | [Saint] | But there you have the option of reverting. |
| 08:12:00 | [Saint] | Basically it boiled down to it being A Lot Of Work (TM) to get it to work with our threading in the ART runtime, and no one with the necessary traits available or willing to do that work. |
| 08:12:51 | [Saint] | If you really wanted Rockbox on Android, there is a pretty convoluted workaround. |
| 08:13:27 | [Saint] | You could use a chroot image in the Android data partition and run a tightvnc server and the Rockbox SDL app therein. |
| 08:14:26 | [Saint] | But if I got wind of anyone doing that I think I might have to stage a digital intervention and get that person the help they require, because they obviously have thoughts of self harming. :p |
| 08:18:44 | trampith | [Saint]: *lol* well, I have to tell you, that I will not go such far. :p But thanks anyway - I guess I just give my iAudio X5 a new battery and use the joystick even more carefully from now on. |
| 08:21:05 | [Saint] | I can't even think of an application that is even remotely close as a substitute for you. |
| 08:30:17 | trampith | [Saint]: I know, that's exactly THE pity! ArmAmp is quite ok but rockbox is just the real thing for me and I use it since eight years very happily. |
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| 08:50:45 | wodz | trampith: There are serious technical limitations of how Android port works. It doesn't work on ART runtime and will probably never be. Putting this aside there is no active developer to pickup this and push further. |
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| 08:58:31 | prof_wolfff | wodz: i tested the saratoga n2g build, used a 2GB Nano and copied about 6GB of small files in 4 rounds with no errors and all md5sum ok, even i used the HID mouse mode some time while coping files, could you give me more details?, at first glance it seems it could be due to flash (HW or driver) or the USB connection (HW or driver) |
| 08:59:23 | prof_wolfff | even after real I/O error the disconnects seems strange for me, really i don't know how it should behave, i am going to simulate I/O errors to see it there is some bug there |
| 08:59:48 | wodz | prof_wolfff: I need to do more tests. I took the player with me so I can test it on a few machines at work |
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| 09:00:12 | prof_wolfff | ok, tell me about them |
| 09:01:58 | trampith | wodz: thanks, already aware of that now. pity. |
| 09:04:10 | [Saint] | I have somewhere the very beginnings of wrapping an Android native UI around ffmpeg. |
| 09:04:33 | [Saint] | But, like a lot of the things I start one day, I have very little want or reason to continue working on it. |
| 09:05:06 | [Saint] | Joe User just plain doesn't seem to want a full featured Android audio player. |
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| 09:06:46 | [Saint] | I often get the impression that a large body of Rockbox users don't actually use a majority of the features Rockbox actually offers anyway. |
| 09:07:10 | [Saint] | wide codec support is likely the initial draw card. |
| 09:08:31 | trampith | [Saint]: you're right, it's real for the audiophile power user and us geeks :p |
| 09:09:29 | [Saint] | Somewhat ironically, I doubt that most of the active users make extensive use of the Rockbox advanced feature set outside of testing either. |
| 09:09:38 | trampith | well, gentlemen, have to go. thank you very much for the insight. cleared the fog a bit. let's hope the best for our little perl! :p CU |
| 09:10:08 | [Saint] | I know that a very large percentage of us don't even touch the database or plugins. |
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| 09:42:47 | Horrorcat | things I use from rockbox (off the top of my head): database, file browser, guitar tuning plugin, fft plugin, dynamic range compressor, crossfeed-stereo, USB-HID (no multimedia keys on this notebook!), sleep timer, queueing tracks (I cannot even believe that not every player software can do that), … |
| 09:43:07 | Horrorcat | equalizer! |
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| 12:20:30 | pamaury | Horrorcat: did you see my messages from yesterday night ? |
| 12:22:12 | Horrorcat | pamaury: yes, I already built it and put it on my device |
| 12:22:24 | Horrorcat | do you still need numbers? |
| 12:32:57 | pamaury | what do you mean ? |
| 12:33:08 | Horrorcat | 20:55:44 < pamaury> Horrorcat: I am looking at the zenxfi3 problem, I was thinking about it: when the display goes weird in bootloader mode, what is the value displayed in parenthesis ? (that's the voltage) |
| 12:33:50 | pamaury | ah, huh right now no, I realized yesterday the calibraion curve is wrong, that's why the percentage is wrong. I am currently running a battery benchmark to recalibrate it |
| 12:34:00 | Horrorcat | ah I see |
| 12:34:18 | pamaury | Did you observe the power off problem with the new patch yet ? |
| 12:34:20 | Horrorcat | I guess this will need a bootloader rebuild to fix it there, too? |
| 12:34:31 | Horrorcat | no, but I have been in a lecture since I rebuilt, so not really any chance to test it |
| 12:35:25 | pamaury | ok, yes it will |
| 12:35:59 | pamaury | i have no idea how I produced these values in the first place but I was clearly high ^^ |
| 12:36:15 | Horrorcat | heh :) |
| 12:37:32 | pamaury | I need to go, I hope the patch will prove useful |
| 12:37:40 | Horrorcat | I’ll let you know! |
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| 13:29:39 | AndyP_ | edhelas: I have finally managed to get my Mini1G and 4thGen GreyScale ipods to switch between the dock and the remote serial ports. |
| 13:31:03 | AndyP_ | For some reason the Mini2G and the 4thGen Color don't appear to work through the remote connector using the same code. |
| 13:31:35 | AndyP_ | What variant have you managed to get to work through the remote? |
| 13:32:03 | elensil | AndyP_: well it was working with a hacky patch on my Mini2G |
| 13:33:46 | elensil | AndyP_: if I remember I just removed the #else there http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=blob;f=firmware/target/arm/pp/uart-pp.c;h=069ae596a0c8deacfb35edf25b3bbdd04815f9c8;hb=6548dc294357f4f13a17bf34206038a3a93f1ff7#l112 |
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| 13:35:58 | AndyP_ | Apologies, its the Mini1G that doesn't work, the Mini2G does. |
| 13:37:13 | elensil | AndyP_: and there's differences between the 4thGen and the 4thGen Color ? |
| 13:38:17 | AndyP_ | Yes, the 4thGen Grey remote works, but I can't get the color to talk at all. |
| 13:39:21 | elensil | you have the patch somewhere ? I'll try to have a look at it tonight :) |
| 13:39:21 | AndyP_ | Both serial ports work OK using the OF but not under Rockbox. |
| 13:40:23 | AndyP_ | I'll upload a patch when I get home. |
| 13:41:32 | AndyP_ | Probably about 5-6 hours from now. |
| 13:41:48 | elensil | it was basically rerouting the serial correctly or you made some changes in IAP as well ? |
| 13:42:09 | elensil | you also tried with a serial-top-connector Apple Remote ? |
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| 13:43:49 | AndyP_ | Just rerouting the serial with no change to IAP. I tried 3 different serial-top-connector remotes, only 1 works under Rockbox. |
| 13:44:38 | AndyP_ | I think the others don't quite give the correct baud rates and the OF is more forgiving. |
| 13:45:56 | elensil | I also remember to have some weird behaviour with the Apple Remote (some play/pause/forward events sent several times…) |
| 13:48:14 | AndyP_ | In the end I made a serial cable to connect to the serial-top-connector and used a piece of software called IpodExplorer.exe to talk to the ipod. |
| 13:50:05 | elensil | eheh what a hacker :p |
| 13:50:14 | AndyP_ | Using that software I can send and receive the same as with the dock connector but the Mini1G and the 4thGen color just don't want to play. |
| 13:50:42 | elensil | I'll still try to apply your patch and have a look |
| 13:52:23 | AndyP_ | OK, it should apply cleanly to the latest gerrit code. Must go, work is shouting...... |
| 13:52:42 | elensil | thanks o/ |
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| 14:24:59 | fishbulb | does anyone know how a solid state drive should be configured |
| 14:25:15 | Horrorcat | define "should be configured" |
| 14:25:20 | Horrorcat | there is that huge beast called ATA spec |
| 14:25:33 | fishbulb | it's MSATA |
| 14:25:48 | fishbulb | goes through an adapter to zif |
| 14:25:56 | Horrorcat | i recall your scenario |
| 14:25:59 | fishbulb | then zif to pata? whatever the |
| 14:26:04 | fishbulb | ok it's working |
| 14:26:14 | fishbulb | but comes up with errors because there's nothing to spin down |
| 14:26:24 | Horrorcat | what kind of errors? |
| 14:26:50 | fishbulb | there's one here now I haven't seen Error accessing playlist control file (-4) |
| 14:27:09 | Horrorcat | are you sure it’s because of the spindown? |
| 14:27:23 | fishbulb | this one? this just appeared on the screen now |
| 14:27:31 | fishbulb | I'm wondering what happens to the spindown and all that shit |
| 14:27:39 | Horrorcat | in the best case, the SSD just shrugs |
| 14:27:43 | Horrorcat | in the worst case, it chokes |
| 14:27:50 | fishbulb | chokes how |
| 14:27:54 | fishbulb | I set it to 3s |
| 14:27:55 | Horrorcat | like mine does |
| 14:28:00 | fishbulb | like yours does what |
| 14:28:08 | Horrorcat | being unreliable, random crashes, corrupt filesystem |
| 14:28:15 | fishbulb | great. |
| 14:28:38 | fishbulb | well, it's those things |
| 14:28:40 | Horrorcat | you could try my patches and see whether they make things worse or better for you |
| 14:28:51 | Horrorcat | ah, do you have the original HDD at hand? |
| 14:29:03 | fishbulb | this took like 7 hours to do |
| 14:29:09 | fishbulb | I am so fucking over this |
| 14:29:23 | fishbulb | I'm not doing it now |
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| 14:29:25 | Horrorcat | could you tell me the voltage rating of the original HDD? |
| 14:29:34 | fishbulb | voltage or amperage |
| 14:29:37 | Horrorcat | voltage |
| 14:29:38 | fishbulb | 3.3v |
| 14:29:40 | Horrorcat | okay |
| 14:29:41 | fishbulb | all of them are |
| 14:29:55 | Horrorcat | yeah, I had vaguely remembered that it was 2.5v |
| 14:30:02 | fishbulb | what? |
| 14:30:09 | fishbulb | no, 3.3 |
| 14:30:12 | Horrorcat | that’s good |
| 14:30:17 | fishbulb | the msata is 3.3 |
| 14:30:30 | fishbulb | I don't know of a drive that's anything other than 3.3 |
| 14:30:37 | Horrorcat | if you don’t mind using a rockbox uploaded by a stranger from the internet, I could make you a build |
| 14:30:41 | fishbulb | but the hard drive says 500mA |
| 14:30:57 | fishbulb | the msata drive says 1.6A |
| 14:30:59 | Horrorcat | eww |
| 14:31:02 | fishbulb | that's phenomenally more |
| 14:31:05 | Horrorcat | that’s... yes |
| 14:31:10 | Horrorcat | despite the other one being a spinning disk |
| 14:31:14 | fishbulb | I didn't notice it, it's a samsung drive |
| 14:31:30 | fishbulb | it was supposed to be low energy consumption |
| 14:31:44 | Horrorcat | I guess it’s low compared to desktop spinning disks… |
| 14:31:55 | fishbulb | um |
| 14:32:00 | fishbulb | probably |
| 14:33:20 | fishbulb | what would you patch? |
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| 14:33:20 | fishbulb | whta do you patch |
| 14:33:20 | fishbulb | what wouldst thou patch |
| 14:33:51 | Horrorcat | I have some patches which essentially talk more to the drive instead of trying to guess its power state |
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| 14:34:03 | Horrorcat | this has somewhat improved the situation for me |
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| 14:51:08 | fishbulb | what the fuck |
| 14:51:22 | fishbulb | *PANIC* |
| 14:51:44 | fishbulb | Dir entry 4 in sector 0 is not free! 03 00 78 00 |
| 14:52:13 | fishbulb | white screen, everything stopped, had to hard reset again |
| 14:52:17 | fishbulb | :| |
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| 14:54:30 | fishbulb | same error again |
| 14:54:44 | fishbulb | the track playing slowed down |
| 14:54:47 | fishbulb | then stopped |
| 14:56:07 | fishbulb | 3.3x1.6 = roughly 6? |
| 14:56:12 | fishbulb | 6A peak draw? |
| 14:56:30 | fishbulb | compared to 500mA I dunno what that was, that's the only amperage written on the whole drive |
| 14:56:35 | fishbulb | a spinning platter drive |
| 14:57:54 | fishbulb | ok this error is happening regularly |
| 14:57:59 | pamaury | fishbulb: don't know anything about your ssd hack but this panic (Dir entry 4 in sector 0 is not free! 03 00 78 00) is not about sata, it's essentially saying your FAT (filesystem) is corrupted |
| 14:58:05 | fishbulb | the battery is being HOSED |
| 14:58:28 | fishbulb | I formatted it as fat32 |
| 14:59:05 | fishbulb | stock bootloader, pretty normal rockbox, msata ssd |
| 14:59:07 | pamaury | well unless we have a bug in our fat driver it means it is corrupted |
| 14:59:08 | wodz | IF the offending drive gets 3x peak current to the designed one I bet voltage regulator isn't happy |
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| 14:59:34 | fishbulb | the drive is corrupted? |
| 14:59:37 | fishbulb | how do I format it? |
| 14:59:57 | pamaury | a crash can corrupt the fat, windows can check for errors and linux has fsck |
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| 15:00:09 | fishbulb | um |
| 15:00:18 | pamaury | (you need to plug it to computer) |
| 15:00:21 | Horrorcat | fsck.vfat /dev/foo, and if it reports errors just bump it over |
| 15:00:31 | wodz | I mean DAP designer considered 500mA peak current and selected caps and regulator accordingly |
| 15:00:35 | fishbulb | I'm on arch, what do I do |
| 15:00:58 | fishbulb | I can check it for errors with gparted |
| 15:01:09 | fishbulb | no drives I own fail ever |
| 15:01:11 | Horrorcat | fishbulb: lsblk; plug the device in and wait a few seconds; lsblk. two new entries should have appeared (sdx and sdx1). run (as root) fsck.vfat /dev/sdx1 |
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| 15:01:36 | fishbulb | plug it in usb bootloader mode or load rockbox and plug it in |
| 15:01:41 | Horrorcat | use bootloader mode |
| 15:01:48 | Horrorcat | that will be happier if you make changes to the FS |
| 15:02:07 | Horrorcat | (fun fact: rockbox looks very confused if you run mkfs.vfat on its device while it is running :D) |
| 15:02:09 | fishbulb | what changes? |
| 15:02:17 | Horrorcat | like, if fsck.vfat finds errors and wants to repair them |
| 15:02:31 | fishbulb | what do I run |
| 15:02:37 | fishbulb | scan it with gparted? |
| 15:02:41 | Horrorcat | yeah, that’ll do |
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| 15:06:18 | fishbulb | it isn't happy |
| 15:07:34 | Horrorcat | I suspected that |
| 15:07:35 | fishbulb | input output error |
| 15:07:37 | Horrorcat | eww |
| 15:07:46 | fishbulb | on read on /dev/sdc1 |
| 15:08:26 | fishbulb | it said grow filesystem to fill partition |
| 15:08:31 | fishbulb | ok, fuck gnome |
| 15:08:39 | fishbulb | I'm sick of this shit. |
| 15:09:06 | fishbulb | how do I format this SSD again? |
| 15:09:16 | fishbulb | and I use FAT or FAT32 ? |
| 15:09:35 | fishbulb | what does input output error during read on this drive mean |
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| 15:09:48 | fishbulb | something really bad? |
| 15:10:37 | Horrorcat | use fat32 |
| 15:11:04 | Horrorcat | the I/O error can have many causes. One could be that the voltage drops and the SSD gets confused/in an inconsistent state/reset in the middle of an operation |
| 15:11:19 | fishbulb | fuck that |
| 15:11:21 | fishbulb | it's probably that |
| 15:11:38 | Horrorcat | considering that USB 2.0 only delivers 500mA, I consider this very likely |
| 15:11:49 | Horrorcat | it might even be that your USB host simply cut off the power because the device took too much |
| 15:11:57 | fishbulb | um |
| 15:12:04 | fishbulb | I'll plug it into usb3 |
| 15:12:19 | fishbulb | which is an expresscard adapter :/ |
| 15:12:23 | Horrorcat | that might not help, as the device won’t negotiate USB3 |
| 15:12:32 | fishbulb | it'll give more power surely |
| 15:12:45 | Horrorcat | give it a try |
| 15:12:59 | fishbulb | the h340 is usb2 |
| 15:13:08 | fishbulb | I dont' want to waste too much more time |
| 15:13:45 | Horrorcat | USB3 is at most 900mA while the device is registered with data transfer support |
| 15:14:24 | fishbulb | ok, shut down and started again |
| 15:14:32 | fishbulb | ATA error -11 |
| 15:14:46 | fishbulb | insert USB cable and press a button |
| 15:14:52 | fishbulb | :( |
| 15:15:11 | Horrorcat | meh |
| 15:15:16 | Horrorcat | sucks |
| 15:15:28 | Horrorcat | send the SSD back and try the microSD adapter chain ;) |
| 15:15:44 | fishbulb | great |
| 15:15:47 | fishbulb | no |
| 15:15:57 | fishbulb | FUCK. |
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| 15:25:13 | fishbulb | so this is not going to work at all? |
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| 15:28:42 | Horrorcat | fishbulb: it appears you were even unluckier than me with the choice of SSD :( |
| 15:29:06 | fishbulb | yeah appears that way. |
| 15:29:08 | fishbulb | shit |
| 15:29:20 | fishbulb | I'll try it in a computer |
| 15:29:30 | Horrorcat | now that my h320 is revived I’m going to give the microSD adapter chain a shot though |
| 15:29:57 | Horrorcat | in the hope that it proves to be more stable |
| 15:32:04 | fishbulb | I looked up the datasheet for this thing |
| 15:32:08 | fishbulb | before I bought it |
| 15:32:27 | fishbulb | the read and write power requirements aren't 1.6A on the datasheet |
| 15:32:47 | Horrorcat | what’s written on the datasheet w.r.t. power consumption? |
| 15:33:25 | fishbulb | I don't remember, it was within the drives that were reported as working on the rockbox site though |
| 15:33:35 | fishbulb | they had a few listed and some had massive power requirements |
| 15:33:51 | fishbulb | anyway, this doesnt' work, and I'm disappointed. |
| 15:34:15 | fishbulb | I might pull the one out of this thinkpad though |
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| 15:37:59 | fishbulb | replace it with one half the size |
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| 15:49:32 | fishbulb | fantastic |
| 15:50:21 | fishbulb | this shouldn't have failed, the datasheet said nothing about 1.6A |
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| 16:02:50 | fishbulb | original drive back in |
| 16:03:27 | fishbulb | done. what a waste of a day. |
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| 20:36:08 | __builtin | fishbulb: ping |
| 20:36:47 | __builtin | crap, sorry |
| 20:36:52 | __builtin | wrong person |
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| 20:58:22 | AndyP_ | elensil: Uploaded ipod remote serial patch to gerrit. Works fine on my 2G Mini and 4Gen Greyscale. Still not with 1G Mini or 4th Gen Color/Photo. |
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| 21:24:27 | Horrorcat | pamaury: I have new stories :-) |
| 21:25:03 | Horrorcat | pamaury: I had another "does not turn on" situation. I got the bootloader to start by plugging the device into the "always powered" usb port of my notebook while the notebook was in standby |
| 21:25:31 | Horrorcat | then the bootloader hang at "USB Connecting", maybe because I unplugged the USB very quickly after I saw the device turning on |
| 21:25:55 | Horrorcat | after I plugged it back in and waiting for a few seconds, it continued to "Loading Firmware" and "Executing", but hang there for several seconds (which is not normal), so I resetted it |
| 21:26:18 | Horrorcat | then some other stuff happened I don’t quite recall (I reset the device at least once more) and then I was able to turn it on normally with the power button |
| 21:26:23 | Horrorcat | afterwards, rockbox reported 100% battery |
| 21:28:06 | Horrorcat | just in case this is in any way helpful |
| 21:30:17 | pamaury | unfortunately the "freeze after usb unplug in bootloader" is a known bug, I simply does know how to fix |
| 21:31:12 | Horrorcat | ok, that’s easily avoidable |
| 21:32:03 | Horrorcat | I *think* the weird stuff i cannot quite recall involved the bootloader starting but hanging before Loading Firmware when i used the power button to turn it on |
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| 21:52:43 | pamaury | Horrorcat: I am almost done with the calibration curve, as soon as I have, I will push it |
| 21:52:55 | pamaury | I will push the power off commit immediately, it cannot hurt anyway |
| 21:53:41 | fs-bluebot | Build Server message: New build round started. Revision 9a6700d, 255 builds, 16 clients. |
| 21:54:33 | pamaury | runtime was almost 22 hours, not bad given the size of the player and the age of the battery |
| 21:56:56 | __builtin | does someone have a USB HID-enabled device? |
| 21:59:25 | pamaury | __builtin: yes |
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| 22:00:26 | * | __builtin gets a patch ready |
| 22:01:21 | fs-bluebot | Build Server message: Build round completed after 460 seconds. |
| 22:01:22 | fs-bluebot | Build Server message: Revision 9a6700d result: 0 errors 99 warnings |
| 22:02:11 | __builtin | pamaury: can you build and run g#1343 on said device? |
| 22:02:12 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #1343 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1343 : OTP plugin: add typing code over USB by Franklin Wei |
| 22:02:23 | __builtin | the "otp" plugin under "apps" |
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| 22:03:26 | pamaury | building... |
| 22:03:30 | pamaury | what is this plugin doing ? |
| 22:04:25 | __builtin | it generates one-time passwords for online services |
| 22:05:05 | * | __builtin hopes it can type the passwords automatically now |
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| 22:06:57 | pamaury | ok, what do I do with it ? |
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| 22:09:19 | __builtin | ok, paste this content into a .txt file in the root: |
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| 22:09:37 | __builtin | otpauth://hotp/test?secret=AAAAAAAA&counter=0 |
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| 22:10:06 | __builtin | then import the account (from file") |
| 22:11:48 | pamaury | done |
| 22:13:31 | pamaury | I tried the usb typing thing but it fails quite horribly: it generates an sequence of "_" (ie _______________________________) and never stops and freezes (had to hard reset) |
| 22:14:18 | __builtin | crap |
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| 22:17:17 | __builtin | oh, it's a stupid mistake |
| 22:18:40 | __builtin | should be fixed now |
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| 22:21:50 | pamaury | __builtin: now it generates something like "&é-(_" and then freezes |
| 22:21:59 | pamaury | still need to hard reset |
| 22:22:24 | __builtin | can you use the "show codes" feature properly? |
| 22:22:39 | __builtin | or did I break that too? ;) |
| 22:26:03 | pamaury | you mean generate code ? yes it works |
| 22:26:10 | pamaury | at least it displays numbers ^^ |
| 22:27:07 | __builtin | ok, that's a start |
| 22:30:10 | edhelas | pamaury: hey, if you have some time I can debug the usb audio patch |
| 22:30:53 | __builtin | pamaury: pushed a patch set with some debug info |
| 22:31:08 | __builtin | actually, the debug info is bugged too :P |
| 22:31:10 | pamaury | edhelas: huh sorry, not really right now and since I realized this patch is not the latest version (ie it misses some code I don't have anymore), I have to rewrite that part before any debugging is useful |
| 22:31:11 | __builtin | hang on |
| 22:31:22 | edhelas | pamaury: ok sure ;) |
| 22:33:19 | __builtin | pamaury: the newest patch set should splash some debug info before typing |
| 22:35:09 | pamaury | __builtin: displayed code is correct, typed one is not |
| 22:35:31 | __builtin | alright |
| 22:35:39 | pamaury | also still need to hard reset |
| 22:36:12 | pamaury | __builtin: I am slightly puzzled by your code |
| 22:36:23 | __builtin | yeah, it's due to the lack of an itoa() in rockbox |
| 22:36:26 | pamaury | while(*ptr++) go to the next character (!) |
| 22:36:49 | pamaury | I would rather do while(*ptr) and then char c = *ptr++ for a start |
| 22:41:44 | pamaury | ok with this suggestion the code now does not freeze but code is still not correct |
| 22:41:55 | pamaury | I wonder if there is a problem with the hid use page w.r.t key code |
| 22:44:11 | __builtin | weird |
| 22:44:28 | __builtin | what does it type? garbage? |
| 22:44:54 | pamaury | "àè""'_" |
| 22:45:06 | pamaury | yeah garbage but like "shifted" garbage |
| 22:45:38 | pamaury | I don't see an obvious mistake in the code |
| 22:47:38 | __builtin | maybe there isn't one |
| 22:47:49 | __builtin | could it be on a lower level? |
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| 22:48:42 | pamaury | __builtin: ok found the problem I think |
| 22:49:09 | __builtin | yeah? |
| 22:49:10 | pamaury | HID spec says code 0x1e is "Keyboard 1 and ! 4" |
| 22:49:26 | pamaury | so it might depend on the shift/maj/verrnum possibly |
| 22:49:35 | pamaury | just a theory |
| 22:50:15 | pamaury | but consistent with what I observe |
| 22:51:26 | __builtin | weird |
| 22:51:40 | pamaury | and I am not sure there is any good fix in the sense that the HID spec explicitely mandates that key codes are not actually key code, they are key position for this usage |
| 22:51:57 | pamaury | so "0" does not mean "character 0" it means "key at the same position that the usual 0 key" |
| 22:52:10 | pamaury | which is "à" on my french keyboard and I need to shift to get 0 |
| 22:52:13 | __builtin | maybe using the keypad is better? |
| 22:52:32 | pamaury | keypad is better is you find how to make sure you are in number mode |
| 22:52:46 | __builtin | ohh crap |
| 22:53:06 | pamaury | or other pages |
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| 22:54:41 | __builtin | does the host send it's numlock status to the device? |
| 22:55:43 | pamaury | no it should be the opposite: device sends its numlock status |
| 22:56:33 | __builtin | what about led status? |
| 22:58:02 | pamaury | yes it is reported as led status |
| 22:58:19 | __builtin | but are they consistent across locales? |
| 22:58:49 | pamaury | no idea |
| 22:59:06 | __builtin | I know the yubikey supports this same feature |
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| 23:00:08 | pamaury | but somehow raw ascii data must be supported, I can't believe it's not the case |
| 23:01:29 | __builtin | dang, it appears the firmware is closed source |
| 23:06:14 | pamaury | __builtin: thereis the unicode page |
| 23:06:20 | pamaury | that's what you want to use |
| 23:07:13 | __builtin | yay :D |
| 23:07:40 | pamaury | the spec is quite vague, it should be in ISO/IEC 10646-1 UCS-2 (the two-octet form) |
| 23:08:10 | * | __builtin 's crappy router is failing to resolve usb.org |
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| 23:08:55 | * | pamaury is trying to understand how this page works |
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| 23:10:16 | pamaury | hum, I am not sure if this page is meant to send character to the host or from the host |
| 23:10:51 | __builtin | it's HID so probably to the host |
| 23:12:39 | pamaury | no |
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| 23:12:48 | pamaury | it's from the host :( |
| 23:13:03 | edhelas | I have a small question. When no sound is played on Rockbox I heard a small white-noise on the iPodColor that I don't have on the Mini, anyone knows why ? |
| 23:13:23 | pamaury | HID is not only for dev -> host communication, LED are a perfect example: they can be changed by both host and dev. More generally HID supports lots of things |
| 23:13:36 | __builtin | darn |
| 23:13:55 | __builtin | well, I think for now I'll just have to assume a US keyboard layout |
| 23:14:08 | __builtin | unless... it could be user-configurable |
| 23:14:24 | pamaury | edhelas: probably hardware, it's quite common on many devices, unless it's really loud I guess, but I don't know for this specific device |
| 23:14:38 | pamaury | __builtin: maybe keypad would be a mostly working idea |
| 23:14:49 | __builtin | but how would it ensure number mode? |
| 23:15:06 | __builtin | besides asking for user intervention |
| 23:16:18 | pamaury | maybe keyboards are allowed to change their numlock status as long they notify host |
| 23:17:19 | edhelas | pamaury: it's funny because it seems even louder on the stock firmware |
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| 23:17:37 | pamaury | well then don't complain :-p |
| 23:17:44 | edhelas | maybe caused by the default volume |
| 23:18:04 | __builtin | hardware issues, maybe |
| 23:19:11 | edhelas | going back to rockbox, when I don't play any song but having the volume at 0db I can clearly hear it, this is not caused by the software I imagine |
| 23:20:18 | edhelas | what does rockbox do actually when you change the volume ? it tell some chipset to get more power to amplify the sound more, which can cause the white noise to be louder ? |
| 23:20:25 | pamaury | edhelas: no, at best software is configuring hardware correctly and noise is generated because <insert good reason>, worse this is hardware design problem and you can't do anything about it |
| 23:20:41 | pamaury | *no configuring |
| 23:21:15 | pamaury | but as I said this is a very frequent problem |
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| 23:21:39 | pamaury | on some/many chips, you could have no noise but then you would have a pop when you resume so... |
| 23:21:40 | edhelas | okay :) it's not an issue to me, I was just curious, thanks for the answer |
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| 23:36:07 | pamaury | __builtin: it's kind of tricky but it's potentially possible: you could have a virtual button to ask the host to switch num lock and since the keyboard knows numlock, you can switch it if needed (and then back to restore proper lock after) but it's not exactly nice |
| 23:39:45 | __builtin | hmm, that would work |
| 23:40:46 | __builtin | the only issue is that my menu system is totally from scratch |
| 23:40:57 | __builtin | so adding it will be a bit of a hassle |
| 23:41:26 | * | pamaury has a try at the numlock thingy |
| 23:41:43 | * | __builtin thinks he can do it |
| 23:42:43 | __builtin | ok, this should work |
| 23:43:52 | __builtin | pamaury: pushed new patch set |
| 23:44:10 | __builtin | you should have a new option in the send code menu for numlcok |
| 23:44:13 | __builtin | *lock |
| 23:44:35 | pamaury | __builtin: I had in my mind something more "automatic", let me try it and I'll send you the code |
| 23:45:09 | __builtin | cool |
| 23:50:17 | * | pamaury spots something clearly wrong the hid driver but already knows about it and pretends he didn't see it |
| 23:52:19 | __builtin | what is it? |
| 23:52:59 | pamaury | usb_drv_recv might return before buffer is filled |
| 23:53:22 | pamaury | it's irrelevant is almost all drivers but on hid it's potentially a problem for led status |
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