00:01:00 | * | [Saint] hopes he can grab PhotoJim before the actual installation process to say |
00:01:00 | [Saint] | "Don't use the release builds, use the development builds" |
00:01:21 | [Saint] | I mean, if you already did, updating isn't difficult. |
00:01:37 | [Saint] | But I assure you you want the development build over the release. |
00:01:49 | PhotoJim | yes, that's a later-today thing |
00:01:58 | [Saint] | Aha. Cool. |
00:02:02 | PhotoJim | and I'll take your advice |
00:02:20 | PhotoJim | I'll upgrade one, see if I like it. if so I'll do the other. |
00:02:38 | PhotoJim | I have a little Chinese MP3 player too that I got because it does Bluetooth (occasionally handy) but who knows what hardware it runs. |
00:03:11 | [Saint] | It's not much a question of like or dislike, there's 3.5~4 years worth of bug fixes and enhancements and optimizations that the development build brings with it. |
00:03:29 | [Saint] | Nothing user-facing is drastically different. |
00:03:39 | [Saint] | But the backend is markedly so. |
00:04:28 | PhotoJim | sounds like you've convinced me. |
00:04:36 | PhotoJim | if it is stable and works well, I'm good with development versions. |
00:05:29 | [Saint] | Yes. For the supported targets it is quite stable. With the aforementioned bugfixes and enhancements it is quite possibly arguably more so than the release. |
00:05:51 | PhotoJim | I'm glad you mentioned it. Thanks. |
00:07:09 | [Saint] | We actually had this discussion with another user yesterday and a developer mentioned a point I didn't really consider, in that the releases are useful for the very very old and rather limited supported targets where in order to go forward we had to keep making sacrifices in order for the binary to be small enough to actually fit on the device. |
00:07:33 | [Saint] | For the modern supported devices you absolutely want to the development builds though. |
00:07:49 | PhotoJim | goodness, that's quite the user manual. |
00:08:02 | PhotoJim | right, that makes sense. |
00:08:03 | [Saint] | We're pretty proud of it. Indeed. |
00:08:07 | PhotoJim | but the Sansas are modern enough for this purpose. |
00:08:17 | [Saint] | Indeed they are. |
00:08:32 | PhotoJim | I have a duplexing colour printer here. I'm going to print this. |
00:08:34 | PhotoJim | I like printed manuals. |
00:08:57 | PhotoJim | then I can pore through it as I get things running tonight. |
00:09:38 | xorly | [Saint]: what is considered as "modern" device? |
00:09:52 | [Saint] | Good for you! That's awesome. I was going to suggest this, but it is always a gamble. |
00:10:19 | [Saint] | Some people take the idea that they should want to read our manual as an offense. |
00:10:44 | [Saint] | Rockbox isn't exactly....intuitive. |
00:10:54 | PhotoJim | I like manuals. |
00:11:03 | PhotoJim | I like intuitive stuff but I read the manual too. |
00:11:10 | PhotoJim | and manuals help you find the non-obvious stuff. |
00:11:38 | [Saint] | I often talk to people who have been using Rockbox for years, and due to lack of reading the manual they come in here and talk to me, or someone else, and then end up finding out that they have failed to discover a bunch of features they were interested in. |
00:11:55 | [Saint] | One guy I talked to fairly recently went 4 years without knowing we had a context menu. |
00:12:37 | [Saint] | It's great when you get feature requests that already exist. |
00:12:58 | [Saint] | "Rockbox should do...It would be great if...This could be..." |
00:13:06 | [Saint] | <It already is!> |
00:13:10 | [Saint] | "Wow!" |
00:13:50 | PhotoJim | That must be fun, responding to those requests. |
00:13:56 | PhotoJim | (annoying. but fun. :) ) |
00:15:47 | [Saint] | xorly: in that context we would be speaking about the reaaaaaaaally old devices that most of you guys probably don't own anyway. Archos Jukebox|Recorder|Ondio, Toshiba Gigabeat, Cowon iAudio X*|M*, etc. |
00:16:06 | [Saint] | The literal vintage players. |
00:17:43 | xorly | I get it, but I am thinking about buying some Rockbox supported player. Some actively developed/supported. That's the reason why I am adking... |
00:18:02 | [Saint] | iPod Classic\6g |
00:18:44 | [Saint] | It can be difficult to find, but if there are pawn shops or second hand electronics stores in your locale - try there first. |
00:19:09 | [Saint] | Resellers on the Internet know exactly what they have and how much demand it is is. |
00:19:20 | [Saint] | Ma & Pa pawn brokers...notsomuch. |
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00:20:04 | [Saint] | The iPod Classic is about the best bang for your buck available in HDD based players these days. It is a bit of a machine of death, quite absurdly overpowered. |
00:20:25 | [Saint] | (and it can be converted into a solid state player with relative ease) |
00:20:32 | xorly | Thanks for info! :) |
00:20:41 | [Saint] | Barring that the obvious choice is the Sansas. |
00:21:03 | [Saint] | Which are nice players but reminiscent of a McDonalds Happy Meal toy. |
00:21:33 | [Saint] | They are cheaply made, and they feel exactly that way. Nice hardware in a sub-par package. |
00:22:01 | [Saint] | If looks or engineering aren't important factors, then the Sansas are definitely a valid consideration. |
00:22:05 | PhotoJim | The Clip+ isn't bad. I don't think it feels too cheap. |
00:22:09 | PhotoJim | I haven't used more modern Sansas though. |
00:22:59 | [Saint] | I don't think I've ever seen one with the display mounted in the center of the faceplate, or one with uniform molding around the edges where the case halves meet. |
00:23:09 | [Saint] | Not saying they don't exist, I just haven't seen one. |
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00:23:41 | [Saint] | They're nice players, and I have a few myself, but I use them as what I basically consider to be a "disposable DAP". |
00:23:57 | [Saint] | I use them at the gym, or if I'm going to be near water, or mountain biking, etc. |
00:24:21 | PhotoJim | the one rattled around the bowels of my car - in Saskatchewan, so it was seeing temperatures from -40 C to (in the car) probably 60 C - and it still works. I give it kudos! |
00:24:22 | [Saint] | I take them all the places I wouldn't dare take my precious solid state converted iPods. |
00:24:31 | PhotoJim | I figure it was there for 26 months. |
00:24:38 | [Saint] | Ha! Nice. :) |
00:25:03 | [Saint] | Yes. They definitely can be rather robust. |
00:25:06 | PhotoJim | I hunted for it for two hours. |
00:25:15 | [Saint] | Especially if you're prone to dropping things as I am. |
00:25:16 | PhotoJim | but a detailer found it when I got the car cleaned up for a long driving holiday :) |
00:25:19 | PhotoJim | Yep. |
00:25:25 | PhotoJim | I'm not a dropper, but stuff can happen. |
00:27:42 | PhotoJim | I wonder what generation my iPod Classic is. |
00:27:47 | PhotoJim | it needs a new battery, but that can be done. |
00:29:56 | [Saint] | Going on statistics alone, the likelihood of it being an iPod 4G/Color or iPod 5G|5.5G/Video is immense. |
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00:30:33 | [Saint] | Both make very decent targets and can be converted to high capacity platter HDD or solid state. |
00:30:40 | gevaerts | It's either one of those *or* an ipod classic |
00:30:47 | gevaerts | Can't be both :) |
00:31:03 | [Saint] | Yeah, god damn I hate that naming scheme. |
00:31:22 | [Saint] | People conflate 'iPod Classic" and "classic iPods" all the time. |
00:31:28 | [Saint] | Apple did themselves no favors here. |
00:31:32 | gevaerts | Well... |
00:31:54 | gevaerts | I suspect those people to also mix up their first and last name, and probably left and right :) |
00:32:19 | PhotoJim | saratoga: it was marketed as a classic. I bought it new in ... 2006? maybe '07. |
00:32:45 | PhotoJim | 80 GB hard disk, colour display. |
00:32:54 | PhotoJim | Chrome. |
00:32:58 | PhotoJim | I'll look at it tonight. |
00:33:14 | [Saint] | plastic front or metalic alloy front? |
00:33:37 | gevaerts | video or classic then. wikipedia says the classic was released in 2007 |
00:34:04 | [Saint] | yeah. that's why I asked about the front of the case.'it's right on the edge of still being able to be a Video. |
00:34:06 | PhotoJim | hmm, it's a black front. but I forget if it's plastic or alloy. I think alloy. |
00:34:13 | gevaerts | I'd ask if it's thin or thick, but if you're not familiar with the things that's hard to say |
00:34:17 | [Saint] | Classic then. |
00:34:19 | PhotoJim | Looks like 6th gen. |
00:34:31 | [Saint] | You should definitely consider Rockboxing it. |
00:34:37 | gevaerts | [Saint]: isn't the classic front a bit non-flat as well? |
00:34:39 | PhotoJim | it's fairly thin, compared to my wife's iPod Photo. |
00:34:40 | [Saint] | It'll take a steaming shit all over the Sansas. |
00:34:43 | PhotoJim | but not thin particularly. |
00:35:05 | [Saint] | gevaerts: yeah, kinda beveled off/rounded. |
00:35:13 | * | gevaerts nods |
00:35:21 | [Saint] | The HDDs in them like to commit suicide, though. |
00:35:21 | gevaerts | Thought so. The video is entirely flat |
00:35:25 | PhotoJim | well, one device at a time. but if I like Roxkbox on a Sansa, I think I should put it on my iPod. |
00:35:42 | [Saint] | The disks themselves are actually fine. |
00:35:50 | PhotoJim | the drive on mine is still good. but upgrading it to an SSD of some sort is appealing. it'd be quieter and it'd have better battery life. |
00:35:51 | [Saint] | The controller firmware is batshit crazy, though. |
00:36:01 | [Saint] | They like to smash the heads against the platter for fun. |
00:36:14 | PhotoJim | Yep, mine has Cover Flow. so mine's 6th gen. |
00:36:20 | PhotoJim | oh, that's not good. |
00:36:35 | gevaerts | Actually, is that for *all* classics, or just the early ones? |
00:37:01 | gevaerts | If this one is 2007 it's an early one, but I think it's interesting to know in general |
00:37:01 | [Saint] | AFAIK it's just the 80GB non-CEATA ones. |
00:37:08 | gevaerts | ok |
00:37:50 | gevaerts | Oh well, at least disks (or equivalent) for those aren't impossible to find I guess |
00:37:57 | gevaerts | Not necessarily cheap, but they exist |
00:38:01 | [Saint] | The CEATA ones we had a different problem that was eventually fixed where we weren't giving it enough time to do so and weren't powering it down correctly. |
00:38:14 | [Saint] | So a hard poweroff make a really sickening noise. |
00:38:53 | [Saint] | That's been fixed for quite a while though. |
00:39:48 | [Saint] | If you're going to add a new battery to it, myself personally, I would consider converting it to solid state when you've got it open anyway. |
00:39:51 | gevaerts | Did Apple ever use an 80GB disk that wasn't dodgy in some way? :) |
00:40:04 | [Saint] | I don't believe so. No. |
00:40:20 | gevaerts | I mean, the 80GB video has a disk that can't handle odd sector IO |
00:40:28 | PhotoJim | Rockbox is "unusable" on iPod Classic (6G), but porting has begun. is that correct? |
00:40:34 | [Saint] | Well, the Video disks were technically fine as well, it just had that weird secotr size. |
00:40:43 | [Saint] | PhotoJim: no. |
00:40:52 | gevaerts | Well, it's not *incorrect* |
00:41:06 | [Saint] | PhotoJim: "unusable", "stable", and "unstable" mean different things to us than they do to Joe User. |
00:41:09 | gevaerts | That "unusual" is a technical term though, and doesn't mean the same as it means anywhere else |
00:41:22 | gevaerts | We like to confuse people :) |
00:41:27 | PhotoJim | Heh. evidently. |
00:41:45 | [Saint] | In this context it means "we don't officially have a bootloader or installation path for it yet" |
00:41:50 | gevaerts | Anyway, I suspect that status is outdated now, with the recentish bootloader work |
00:41:51 | PhotoJim | Looks like no dual-booting, plus manual installation. |
00:41:53 | PhotoJim | right. |
00:41:55 | PhotoJim | so that's not too awful. |
00:42:01 | PhotoJim | ahh, that'd be convenient too. |
00:42:03 | [Saint] | There is dualboot. And there is guided installation. |
00:42:18 | [Saint] | Just not for public release. |
00:42:19 | PhotoJim | ahh. |
00:42:21 | PhotoJim | right. |
00:42:27 | PhotoJim | hence your recommendation for the dev version. |
00:42:36 | gevaerts | Well, apart from anything we do being public of course :) |
00:42:48 | [Saint] | Well, no. The dev version is public release. |
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00:43:04 | gevaerts | That's not actually a recommendation, really. There is no "numbered" release for the classic |
00:43:12 | gevaerts | So you have no choice |
00:43:13 | [Saint] | When I say "not for public release" in this context it means that unless you know someone like me, and now you do, you'd need to compile it yourself. |
00:43:42 | [Saint] | When or if the time comes I would be happy to guide you through the installation, though. |
00:43:55 | PhotoJim | Thanks. I may take you up on that. |
00:44:00 | PhotoJim | Much appreciated. |
00:44:06 | [Saint] | There's no risk involved. |
00:44:19 | PhotoJim | I tend to do this stuff under Linux. Looks like that isn't an issue. |
00:44:26 | [Saint] | We like to say the recommended way to brick an iPod is with a hammer, vigorously, and with gusto. |
00:44:34 | PhotoJim | heh. |
00:44:47 | [Saint] | It certainly won't happen from userspace with Rockbox code. |
00:46:06 | PhotoJim | that's one thing I like about the Sansas. it's really easy to load content onto them from Linux. |
00:46:14 | PhotoJim | maybe it is now with iDevices too but I've never tried. |
00:46:25 | [Saint] | They're pretty much indestructible. The amount of hardware that can be completely non-functional, or totally missing, and still allow for a successful installation on the iPods is pretty obscene. |
00:46:36 | [Saint] | You don't need a HDD or a display, for instance. |
00:46:54 | [Saint] | I mean, you will in order to use the thing...but, hey. |
00:47:24 | PhotoJim | But hey :) |
00:47:51 | PhotoJim | I'm looking forward to this experiment. (On the Sansa.) |
00:47:52 | gevaerts | If you can the install from linux, you'll probably have a much easier time than those who try on windows or mac |
00:47:58 | [Saint] | In the Linux sphere with iDevices we've had libgpod available for quite a long time. But this isn;t something I would expect Joe User to stumble upon. |
00:48:07 | gevaerts | (for the ipod. For sansas it doesn't really matter much) |
00:48:28 | [Saint] | Windows is fine. Mac should be fine, but isn;t extensively tested. |
00:48:50 | [Saint] | The guided install in Rockbox Utility can do everything for us now except for place the device in DFU mode. |
00:48:59 | gevaerts | Ah, right |
00:49:15 | * | gevaerts must somehow have missed that last bit of news |
00:49:22 | [Saint] | A year ago I would definitely agree. |
00:49:46 | gevaerts | If it goes wrong in some way you'll probably still be happier on linux though :) |
00:49:49 | [Saint] | We've got a patch set sitting in gerrit that gives the Classic support for a full guided install in RbUtil. |
00:50:53 | [Saint] | And if it goes wrong (it almost certainly won't), while you /can/ restore the iPod manually in Linux it isn;t nearly as easy with the Classic/6G as it is with any of the other iPods. |
00:51:02 | [Saint] | Doable, yes. But not user friendly. |
00:51:18 | [Saint] | The canonical method would be "Force DFU, point iTunes at it" |
00:51:32 | gevaerts | Ah yes, I forget that that thing exists :) |
00:51:59 | PhotoJim | I dual boot into Win10, so I wouldn't be high and dry. |
00:52:03 | [Saint] | iTunes automagically goes "Oh, shit, an iPod in DFU mode huh? ...you want I should restore that, buddy?" |
00:52:10 | PhotoJim | I just rarely go there. Half the time I go there just to get patches. :) |
00:53:09 | [Saint] | If you do intend to dual-boot with iOS and Rockbox, it makes more sense (in my opinion) to manage the library on the device using the iOS side of things. |
00:53:29 | [Saint] | As we can access media added under iOS, but iOS can't access media added under Rockbox. |
00:53:59 | PhotoJim | Makes sense. |
00:54:07 | [Saint] | But this can be done in a Linux environment with pretty much any major modern media player, or anything that can support the libgpod backend. |
00:54:12 | PhotoJim | if I like Rockbox then single-boot mode might be fine with me. but I'll continue to manage it with iTunes for now. |
00:56:39 | PhotoJim | Hometime. I'll check in tonight when I'm ready to do the Sansa Clip+ upgrade. |
00:56:43 | PhotoJim | Thanks for the chat, and for the advice. |
00:57:01 | PhotoJim | (I'll stay in channel as a lurker...) |
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01:00:03 | [Saint] | o/ |
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03:25:21 | PhotoJim | and I have some learning to do |
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11:56:24 | AndyP_ | Following on from yesterday, my iFlash Quad is seen as 1 x 64GB drive in the OF and Rockbox on a 6G Classic. Dual boots happily. |
11:57:40 | AndyP_ | Also have a 6G with an iFlash CF fitted with a 32GB CF that also dual boots, as does another 6G with a 32GB SD card in a SD-CF adapter in another iFlash. |
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12:01:59 | AndyP_ | Just waiting for a 128GB mSATA to try in another 6G with an iFlash-Sata. The 32GB mSATA I have takes too much power to startup. Will post when I try it. |
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12:06:01 | [Saint] | Yeah man. I love those iFlash Quad boards. |
12:06:42 | [Saint] | Much more reliable than gambling on an SSD and whether or not Rockbox or the OF will have a fir with it. |
12:06:51 | [Saint] | (I've been lucky with mine so far) |
12:07:23 | [Saint] | I absolutely love my solid state iPod conversions. I have quite a few now. |
12:07:29 | [Saint] | Various generations. |
12:09:42 | [Saint] | s/fir/fit/ 'have a fit with it'. |
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12:13:02 | AndyP_ | I still have a couple of HDD based ipods but most are converted, even two of the mini's are now CF as is a 4G photo. |
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14:05:49 | treaki | hi |
14:06:08 | treaki | is the snasa clip zip the same as the sansa clip zip sport? |
14:06:19 | treaki | or is this one not rockbox compatible? |
14:12:45 | pamaury | treaki: no |
14:12:54 | pamaury | the zip sport is not supported by rockbox |
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14:20:21 | treaki | how bad... |
14:20:25 | treaki | thanks for the info |
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14:23:29 | treaki | maybe you could write that on the page because of possible missunderstanding do to simillar names... |
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15:09:32 | pamaury | treaki: we get that question often but we don't choose the player name, tell that to sandisk ;) |
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