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| 01:39:52 | Hoshi | " A number of these players run a modified version of linux and as a consequence, the code source is available on sony's website." |
| 01:39:54 | Hoshi | about nwz |
| 01:39:58 | Hoshi | where i can find that code |
| 01:39:59 | Hoshi | ? |
| 01:41:36 | Hoshi | ok found that |
| 01:41:39 | Hoshi | pretty interesing |
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| 01:43:40 | Hoshi | its running old linux it should be exploitable as |
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| 12:27:11 | Shout | what the system requirements for rockbox to run well? |
| 12:27:41 | Shout | on a device, that is. just curious about some of the mega cheap chinese mp3 players |
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| 12:42:03 | pamaury | Shout: each player is different, if rockbox does not have a port for a device, then it is not supported |
| 12:44:34 | pamaury | but basically a device would need at least 2 or 4MB of RAM, that's the biggest requirement. Most cheap chinese players don't meet this requirement |
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| 12:44:53 | pamaury | robertd: hey |
| 12:46:03 | robertd | hi pamaury |
| 12:46:51 | pamaury | did you make progress on the nwz toolchain ? Did you manage to come up with a cross tool config ? |
| 12:46:58 | Hoshi | Hello |
| 12:47:24 | Hoshi | I'm too interested in NWZ-E474. |
| 12:48:27 | Hoshi | I think how it could be exploitable. It has open source kernel and tools. And it's old linux 2.6.35. |
| 12:48:28 | robertd | pamaury when i try to compile with the binutils there is an error of deprecated sintax. I am working on it but everything from the global distribuition service comes with that |
| 12:48:51 | pamaury | Hoshi: we already know about this |
| 12:49:01 | Hoshi | Ok, sorry. |
| 12:49:10 | Shout | it's not exactly |
| 12:49:15 | Shout | "cheap" so to speak |
| 12:49:22 | Shout | but it looks neat |
| 12:49:24 | Hoshi | Just I would mind there is another way to hack it. |
| 12:50:00 | pamaury | Shout: without disassembling the device (or finding pcb scans) it's hard to tell unfortunately. If it's a "well-known" brand, someone might have teared down already |
| 12:50:07 | pamaury | robertd: did you consider the possibility of just creating the cross tool config by guessing ? |
| 12:50:43 | pamaury | after all we know almost everything: kernel version, glibc version, compiler and binutil version and arch (we just need the exact cpu flag I think) |
| 12:51:17 | Hoshi | pamaury: What is arch? How the device is named under kernel source? |
| 12:51:45 | pamaury | robertd: the RPM source code suggests sony does not really have any custom patch on the toolchain that matter on the device |
| 12:52:11 | robertd | pamaury thanks, i did. I have been searching everywhere for a manner to configure but the arm-sony -gcc required is a wall |
| 12:52:24 | pamaury | Hoshi: arm/mach-mp200 |
| 12:52:34 | Hoshi | Ty. |
| 12:52:59 | Shout | pamaury: The reason I asked is because I'm just having a look on alibaba, there are hundreds of players, some of which you can request samples. Might be worth a look at least. |
| 12:53:02 | pamaury | robertd: you mean there is a missing configure script ? |
| 12:55:21 | pamaury | I think I will have a try, stay tuned, I don't believe there is no way to replicate this toolchain |
| 12:55:23 | robertd | pamaury yes. The scripts for building with the sony code in the rpm packages have a different method used in fedora systems |
| 12:56:28 | pamaury | for gcc we just need to give the proper cpu configuration, that shouldn't be hard since it's a well-known arm cpu |
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| 13:59:13 | robertd | pamaury the emma mobile was used on a german tablet, the smartpad 1&1 which was unlocked but it is an android system |
| 13:59:54 | pamaury | which emma mobile ? there are several versions of the chip |
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| 14:00:15 | robertd | pamaury the emma mobile 1 |
| 14:00:29 | pamaury | ok, does that help us ? |
| 14:03:08 | robertd | pamaury, not really just to know how the internal structure works http://pastebin.com/Mk5Lec9X |
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| 14:04:58 | pamaury | robertd: the structure is different, android usually has its own recovery thing (usually fastboot) |
| 14:05:10 | pamaury | I am in the process of documenting what I know about the sony nwz on the wiki |
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| 14:05:49 | robertd | pamaury let me know please how can I help |
| 14:07:57 | pamaury | robertd: help me fill http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SonyNWToolchains for example, I will create a stub, if you could document all you know about the toolchain (versions, configure, etc) that would be great. Then we can use this to build a cross tool config file I hoper |
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| 14:08:47 | robertd | pamaury, i will do |
| 14:11:08 | pamaury | robertd: wait for couple minutes before I write some stub in it ;) |
| 14:11:50 | robertd | pamaury ok |
| 14:16:45 | pamaury | robertd: what is your player again ? A860 ? |
| 14:18:20 | robertd | pamaury, yes the NWZ-A867 |
| 14:19:34 | Hoshi | Gonna test in few hours your bootloader pamaury. |
| 14:19:42 | Hoshi | I need to charge some an e384 |
| 14:20:28 | Hoshi | I gonna ask - why Rockbox doesn't support file executables? I saw that it must be precompiled with whole OS> |
| 14:20:29 | pamaury | robertd: that's good for http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SonyNWToolchains |
| 14:21:02 | pamaury | Hoshi: we have support for plugins, rockbox is not meant to be a full blown OS |
| 14:21:19 | Hoshi | anyway it would be good idea |
| 14:24:11 | pamaury | well plugins are enough for everyone is seems, we don't even have a notion of process or userspace |
| 14:25:07 | robertd | pamaury excellent "Linux kernel version "2.6.23.17-alp_nl (root@system_builder) (gcc version 4.1.2 20090317 (Sony CE Linux 5.0.2.2)" |
| 14:25:35 | pamaury | robertd: by the way, some information I have about emma mobile1 is here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/EmmaMobile1 |
| 14:26:43 | robertd | pamaury thats great. It is hard to come by to that info even in the renesas page |
| 14:27:58 | pamaury | as I said the other day, the only missing information is: flash (but that seems unused on sony players), mmm and msp |
| 14:28:23 | pamaury | I didn't really bother REing the mmm and msp code but they seems to do crypto |
| 14:28:41 | pamaury | I documented some mmm registers though |
| 14:29:25 | robertd | pamaury there is another model which uses the emma , the S760 |
| 14:29:49 | pamaury | there are plenty, I tried to list them on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SonyNW |
| 14:29:58 | pamaury | feel free to update the list though :) |
| 14:30:28 | robertd | pamaury, thanks I am into it |
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| 15:20:48 | pamaury | robertd: I have written most of what I know here: SonyNWAnalysis |
| 15:20:53 | pamaury | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SonyNWAnalysis |
| 15:24:07 | pamaury | robertd: do you have the configure option for the sony gcc ? |
| 15:26:22 | robertd | pamaury that is very complete. Do you mean this http://pastebin.com/LJP4hcVe ? |
| 15:27:12 | pamaury | robertd: I have this but I don't understand how it work: what is %{sony_target_cpu_id} ? |
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| 15:28:11 | robertd | pamaury they use packages in the rpm format which have to be compiled in the manner used by fedora |
| 15:28:36 | pamaury | but how does that work ? how do I know the value of this ? |
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| 15:29:12 | robertd | pamaury in the autoconfig and automake options i tried to compile but the deprecated sintex error always shows |
| 15:30:21 | pamaury | what/where are those autoconfig and automake options ? |
| 15:30:52 | robertd | pamaury those options in theory configure the triplet |
| 15:31:24 | pamaury | but do you have them ? I can't find anything in those rpm that configures the triplet really |
| 15:32:33 | * | pamaury is confused about this works |
| 15:32:49 | robertd | I read that using the sony-cross-gcc-for-dev.spec file build the package. I am not familiar with the rpm compiling either |
| 15:36:38 | pamaury | I suspect those rpms miss things |
| 15:36:59 | pamaury | robertd: where did you find the binutils again ? |
| 15:38:52 | robertd | pamaury in the http://oss.sony.net/Products/Linux/Projector/VPL-SW635C.html . can you please add me to the Wiki Users Group robertdundee |
| 15:40:03 | pamaury | robertd: I added you, it should work now |
| 15:40:14 | robertd | thanks pamaury |
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| 16:06:19 | pamaury | damn it this is bad, crosstool-ng minimum version for the kernel is 2.6.27 and binutil is 2.18a, I don't know if it's going to play well with sony thing |
| 16:09:03 | pamaury | and glic minimum is 2.8 but sony uses 2.7 |
| 16:09:40 | pamaury | I guess we can and should statically link everything, this way we do not depend on the system glibc |
| 16:13:05 | pamaury | in fact I don't know if it makes sense to use old versions of everything. After all if we statically link everything, we only need the glibc to support this particular kernel |
| 16:13:10 | pamaury | I think |
| 16:13:34 | robertd | i have to try the triplet with gcc 4.1.2, binutils 2.17 and newlib 1.15 |
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| 16:19:29 | robertd | I am not so sure if the mips-ce3m-linux-binutils-2.17-ce3_4.src.rpm would work |
| 16:39:45 | pamaury | fuc******************* I hate you ct-ng |
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| 19:06:09 | robertd | This seems to be the problem "sony-cross-gcc-for-dev-4.1.2-05000204.src.rpm is for architecture i386 ; the package cannot be built on this system" |
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| 20:27:24 | * | pamaury wonders if ct-ng isn't buggy and "forgets" to extract the kernel when using a custom kernel |
| 20:40:15 | pamaury | ah in fact ct-ng doesn't know that .tgz means .tar.gz, ct-ng is really a pile of hack |
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| 20:57:09 | Hoshi | Why emulators are still put on e384? |
| 20:57:21 | Hoshi | not put on* |
| 20:58:00 | Hoshi | And the test build is from what date? |
| 20:58:05 | pamaury | I think they are, at least on the nightly builds. Maybe not in the last release which is super old |
| 20:58:31 | Hoshi | I downloaded from wiki :P |
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| 21:00:40 | pamaury | so you downloaded the build from http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-sonynwze370.zip ? |
| 21:01:47 | pamaury | which emulator are you thinking about and is not there ? |
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| 21:04:27 | Hoshi | yeah |
| 21:04:34 | Hoshi | ah this is daily build |
| 21:05:01 | Hoshi | oh gosh you made me surprised |
| 21:05:14 | Hoshi | they are not in plugins? |
| 21:05:39 | pamaury | I don't understand what you mean |
| 21:06:07 | Hoshi | i assumed that emulators are in plugins section |
| 21:06:16 | Hoshi | and when you launch them you can select a file |
| 21:06:47 | Hoshi | in GUI |
| 21:08:19 | pamaury | yes, but please tell me which emulator is missing so I can have a look |
| 21:08:37 | Hoshi | i dont see any emulator in plugins |
| 21:08:41 | Hoshi | just DOOM |
| 21:08:49 | gevaerts | emulators are viewer plugins |
| 21:08:59 | gevaerts | and doom isn't an emulator... |
| 21:09:07 | pamaury | doom is a game, not an emulator |
| 21:09:11 | Hoshi | ah |
| 21:09:13 | Hoshi | i know |
| 21:09:27 | Hoshi | but it's similar to emulators which are too about gaming |
| 21:09:40 | Hoshi | i just didnt know how to get this in the words |
| 21:09:56 | * | gevaerts doesn't think it's similar at all... |
| 21:09:56 | pamaury | you use an emulator, you usually put the ROM/game file in some directory, then using the file browser you select/click on it and it should launch |
| 21:10:09 | pamaury | *to use an emulator |
| 21:10:13 | Hoshi | gevaerts: sorry. nevermind |
| 21:10:25 | Hoshi | pamaury: ok, so this is how that works. sorry for missunderstanding |
| 21:11:22 | * | pamaury is restarting the ct-ng build for the fourth time, I hope this time it won't fail because I have been burning cpu cycle for nothing so far |
| 21:13:29 | pamaury | ct-ng is is a great tool but the documentation sucks, that's horrible |
| 21:13:43 | pamaury | noooooo, another failure :'( |
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| 21:20:24 | Hoshi | super mario works as it should |
| 21:20:27 | Hoshi | in rockboy |
| 21:21:02 | Hoshi | but i would say that emulator keys binding system is really bad |
| 21:23:11 | Hoshi | pokemon crystal too works, at 100% fps but i would say there is problem with reading an text :P |
| 21:24:06 | Hoshi | at landscape its little better |
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| 21:31:38 | pamaury_ | Hoshi: the keys bindings were not particularly tested for emulator (and many other plugins). So if you have good suggestions, we can modify them |
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| 21:35:21 | Hoshi | im good at finding bugs :): http://imgur.com/OhdRSFU |
| 21:36:53 | Hoshi | pamaury: i mean key binding system, it should support combos (two buttons at once) or holding |
| 21:37:18 | pamaury | it supports combos but the hardware does not |
| 21:37:41 | Hoshi | in e384? oh... |
| 21:38:10 | pamaury | very little combos are possible on the e384 |
| 21:38:33 | Hoshi | anyway, the crash you see is when i try to change screen size under rockboy |
| 21:38:47 | Hoshi | i tried an super mario otherwise to check |
| 21:39:20 | Hoshi | got other pc register value, bt end, domain 14 fault 8 and data abbort on 084... |
| 21:41:26 | pamaury | I have never used rockboy so I don't even know what changing the screen size is supposed to do |
| 21:41:39 | Hoshi | "just reporting problems" |
| 21:53:37 | pamaury | Hoshi: I mean, the player screen size is fixed, how can it change the screen size ? /me is puzzled |
| 21:54:01 | Hoshi | hmm you got the bottom and top black bar |
| 21:54:13 | Hoshi | and its probably supposed to get scaling to fullscreen |
| 21:54:24 | Hoshi | screen size of emulator |
| 21:54:26 | pamaury | and what are the options ? |
| 21:54:51 | pamaury | do you enter the size manually ? |
| 21:55:04 | Hoshi | scaled - maintain ratio AND scaled |
| 21:55:35 | Hoshi | scaled dont work properly |
| 21:55:43 | Hoshi | maintain ratio is default |
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| 22:00:05 | Hoshi | oh how weird |
| 22:00:27 | Hoshi | when screen is rotated and you change size its not crashing |
| 22:02:49 | pamaury | well I have no idea, but if you feel motivated, you can have a look at the code, rockboy is a port of gnuboy so the bug could either be in gnuboy or in the glue needed to port it to rockbox |
| 22:03:23 | Hoshi | my coding skills are bad, just basic, i even don't know much CLI functions... |
| 22:03:44 | Hoshi | but gonna read code to learn how the rockbox works. when im lazy i read code instead of writing :P |
| 22:12:30 | tragique | best way to learn coding is practice |
| 22:15:27 | robertd | make: *** No rule to make target 'arm-sony-linux-gnueabi'. Stop. |
| 22:22:20 | pamaury | robertd: I am still working on crosstool config. I am having troubles with the kernel headers so far |
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| 22:25:31 | robertd | pamaury it is complicated even with the ct-ng |
| 22:26:18 | pamaury | I know I know, but I have hopes |
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| 22:28:41 | pamaury | I think I need to somehow choose the kernel configuration (makes sense), but I don't know how it works when you just want to export the headers |
| 22:30:50 | munkis | why would rb->read() be returning values that dont appear in the file? |
| 22:31:54 | pamaury | munkis: you'll have to be more precise than this, we are missing context |
| 22:33:32 | pamaury | hum, Sony has a magic script to build the header tarball, that's sounds good and very frightening at the same time |
| 22:34:57 | munkis | im writing a simple interpreter and my function to find the end of a loop is reading an unidentified location instead of the file (i think) |
| 22:35:36 | pamaury | munkis: can you put some code somewhere ? |
| 22:35:46 | pamaury | so we can have a look |
| 22:38:33 | munkis | http://pastebin.ca/3691615 |
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| 22:40:42 | pamaury | munkis: can you indent the code, that's impossible to read |
| 22:44:25 | munkis | im sorry that was my draft heres a slightly cleaned up version http://pastebin.ca/3691621 |
| 22:47:12 | pamaury | munkis: your code looks suspicious: rb->read(fd, &parse, 1); only works if &parse is a point to a buffer with one char. So parse you be a char and not a char * |
| 22:47:39 | pamaury | and everywhere you use *parse, it should be parse |
| 22:51:37 | pamaury | damnit, the kernel is so old that even the tools that code with it use nonstandard header file like <asm/socket.h> |
| 22:52:08 | pamaury | wait what no, hum, I am super confused now |
| 22:53:27 | pamaury | oh wow, as incredible as it sounds, this actually uncovered a bug in my system headers :( This is going to be tough to fix |
| 22:54:27 | pamaury | it probably has to do with multiarch |
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| 22:55:34 | robertd | pamaury i read that the Linux tarballs distributed from the global source pages do not seem to correspond to the Linux trees actually used to build the kernel on the device |
| 22:56:06 | pamaury | robertd: where did you read that ? |
| 22:56:32 | pamaury | for the sony nwz they seem to correspond but I didn't check in depth |
| 22:58:12 | robertd | pamaury I honestly dont remember but the argument was that it was the same kernel used in several devices but no config file for each device |
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| 23:00:23 | pamaury | robertd: the kernel that I have has several config for several soc. And most of the "interesting" modules are out of tree, so it seems to me that one kernel might be enough |
| 23:00:57 | pamaury | but clearly I wouldn't bet my life on it :) |
| 23:03:49 | robertd | pamaury the most difficult obstacle is the lack of information. Believe me I have searched everywhere : ) |
| 23:04:17 | munkis | is there a limitation on the number of viewers in viewers.config? |
| 23:05:11 | pamaury | munkis: not that I know |
| 23:05:19 | munkis | because my build open with menu got wacked after i added ~ 15 entries |
| 23:05:59 | pamaury | I don't understand what you said |
| 23:07:18 | pamaury | robertd: I am having a strange issue here: to get the kernel headers, it needs to build a program and this program is build with -m32 for some reason. Problem is that it uses some system headers,a nd my box is amd64 and this causes some issues. Have you run into such problems ? |
| 23:07:30 | munkis | after adding 10 entries to viewers.config my fuze+ open with system started dropping viewers |
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| 23:08:44 | robertd | pamaury yes, with the binutils is i386 |
| 23:09:19 | munkis | @pamaury thanks for the read help. i was thrown off because it expects a variable address |
| 23:09:35 | pamaury | robertd: how did you fix it ? |
| 23:09:55 | pamaury | it seems that either I miss some headers or my system have a problem with multiarch |
| 23:09:56 | robertd | pamaury I havent been able to fix it. That is the wall |
| 23:11:16 | pamaury | I have an idea |
| 23:11:26 | pamaury | haha it works |
| 23:11:47 | pamaury | I needed to have linux-libc-dev:i386 |
| 23:11:53 | pamaury | makes sense, once you know it |
| 23:13:39 | robertd | wow now i feel useless, Back to square one for me |
| 23:15:06 | pamaury | well I hope it will help you :) |
| 23:15:20 | pamaury | I am also back to square one, I need to run crosstool from the start, again... |
| 23:16:20 | robertd | thanks pamaury I have a amd64 box too. No wonder i was finding trouble each step of the way |
| 23:24:10 | pamaury | yeah another failure... |
| 23:25:24 | pamaury | ah my mistake this time |
| 23:26:24 | pamaury | crosstool is quite annoying, it has a restart mechanism but it's not as useful as it could be |
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| 23:32:39 | pamaury | it's quite of funny, ct-ng is based on make but makes it sure to not use its only useful feature: tracking dependencies |
| 23:35:46 | pamaury | and of course kernel headers fail again |
| 23:36:16 | pamaury | hum another i386 lib problem |
| 23:38:00 | pamaury | robertd: you might need libgcc-dev:i386 (or libgcc-5-dev:i396 or libgcc-6-dev:i386 depending on your system gcc version) |
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| 23:39:38 | robertd | pamaury yes also the lib32z1 and lib32ncurses5 |
| 23:40:02 | pamaury | hum, that's enough for me apparently, I still have a problem with -lgcc |
| 23:41:06 | pamaury | that's odd, I have the 32-bit version but the linker does not even look at it |
| 23:43:32 | robertd | i had a similar problem but library_path seems to solve it |
| 23:45:29 | pamaury | thanks, handy :) now I have another problem |
| 23:45:48 | pamaury | error: conflicting types for ‘getline’ |
| 23:46:20 | pamaury | this one is not funny at all |
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| 23:47:48 | robertd | getline is a general library function I would rename one |
| 23:48:43 | pamaury | yeah but that's in kernel tools, that makes it less easy to patch it, still doable but annoying |
| 23:50:30 | pamaury | also I can't set LIBRARY_PATH for ct-ng |
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| 23:53:40 | pamaury | hum, my guess is that it gives -m32 to gcc but not ld |
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| 23:54:03 | saratoga | do i add someone to credits if they add a translation? |
| 23:54:41 | robertd | mine was export LD_LIBRARY_PATH LIBRARY_PATH CPATH |
| 23:55:24 | saratoga | looks like people usually do from the logs |
| 23:56:18 | pamaury | robertd: ct-ng explicitely check if LIBRARY_PATH is defined and bails out if it is |
| 23:56:25 | pamaury | so there is no way around it |
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