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00:16:36 | ulmutul | And I stumbled over a small bug along the way: g#1385 |
00:16:37 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #1385 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1385 : Fuze+: fix CONTEXT_SETTINGS keymap (unable to cancel) by Sebastian Leonhardt |
00:18:25 | pamaury | ulmutul: i assume you tested g#1385 ? if so i'll push it right now |
00:18:26 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #1385 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1385 : Fuze+: fix CONTEXT_SETTINGS keymap (unable to cancel) by Sebastian Leonhardt |
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00:19:00 | ulmutul | yes, just tested it :) |
00:19:58 | ulmutul | If I looked at it correctly, CONTEXT_SETTINGS is only used for alarm setting. |
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00:21:43 | pamaury | if there is a problem, I am sure someone will complain ^^ |
00:23:23 | * | [Saint] complains proactively. |
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00:31:32 | ulmutul | BTW: what's the reason that I cannot make screenshots of a LUA sript? (With the simulator; didn't try it with a real target). Is it a known bug or deficiency? |
00:41:25 | [Saint] | I don't believe it is known, and it sounds more like unexpected neglect than a bug. |
00:41:48 | pamaury | yeah I concur |
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01:00:24 | ulmutul | in which part of the code is it handled? |
01:02:47 | __builtin | ulmutul: how are you taking the screenshot? |
01:02:53 | __builtin | screendump? |
01:03:17 | ulmutul | Pressing F5 |
01:03:49 | ulmutul | (When running simulator) |
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01:11:56 | [Saint] | ulmutul: incidentally - can you test this on real hardware with the screendump USB trigger? |
01:12:46 | [Saint] | The simulator is just that, a similator. It looks convincing and while there is a lot of shared code some aspects are handled in fundamentally different ways. |
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01:12:52 | ulmutul | I've tried it in the simulator with the USB trigger :) |
01:13:05 | ulmutul | But yes, I'll try on real hardware. |
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01:18:33 | ulmutul | I tried to make a screendump of the pixel-painter game ( g#1346). Rockbox took a screenshot, but not of the game screen, but of the game menu I entered later. |
01:18:35 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #1346 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1346 : FS #11922: Lua game - Pixel Painter by Sebastian Leonhardt |
01:19:28 | [Saint] | OK, interesting. |
01:20:16 | ulmutul | Same with boomshine: "You made it till level 1" instead of the actual game screen. |
01:20:35 | [Saint] | I had thought that screendump just grabbed the current framebuffer, but it sounds like it might actually be intertwined with the display engine for some reason. |
01:21:24 | [Saint] | So you are actually getting valid image dumps, they're just not representitive of the current display state at the time of capture? |
01:21:53 | ulmutul | I have an idea: I'll try to insert yield() calls! |
01:23:06 | [Saint] | looking at the code I was barking up the wrong tree and it does work as I expect it should. |
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01:23:53 | [Saint] | current running theory is that there's a delay caused by the LUA core, but I'm not entirely certain why as I don't really undertand this at the level I need to. |
01:24:54 | ulmutul | Ok, missing rb.yield() was the reason! |
01:26:19 | ulmutul | I guess there's some kind of automatic yield when displaying the menu. |
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01:26:48 | ulmutul | So the screenshot was taken then, and not earlier :) |
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03:59:29 | vincentblack | someone here ?* |
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04:00:29 | vincentblack | hi all ineed help |
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04:02:00 | [Saint] | vincentblack: better ask a question then. |
04:02:16 | vincentblack | i need informations ans instruction to installing rockbox on an ipod classic 30go year 2008 |
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04:02:56 | [Saint] | That is not an iPod Classic. There are no 30GB iPod Classics. |
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04:03:10 | vincentblack | ok |
04:03:13 | [Saint] | Information regarding installation of supported targets is covered in the wiki and the manual. |
04:03:16 | vincentblack | ty |
04:03:30 | [Saint] | You have an iPod Video. It is supported and detailed in multiple places. |
04:03:41 | vincentblack | ok |
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04:04:14 | vincentblack | need i to do a back up of my apple 's firmware? |
04:05:05 | [Saint] | No. |
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04:05:36 | vincentblack | i have seen it's possible with a terminal linux on instructables |
04:07:21 | [Saint] | It is. However please don't use such documentation. |
04:07:31 | [Saint] | It is almost always incomplete and wildly out of date. |
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04:07:43 | [Saint] | We supply perfectly goof documentation via rockbox.org |
04:07:47 | [Saint] | *good |
04:08:05 | vincentblack | backup recommanded when jailbreaking ... |
04:08:37 | [Saint] | You are not jailbreaking. And whoever wrote that if it does pertain to Rockbox is an idiot. |
04:08:48 | * | [Saint] is not surprised in the least |
04:08:53 | vincentblack | sorry lol |
04:09:13 | [Saint] | There are many incomplete or outright wrong versions of our installation procedures that have no reason to exist. |
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04:09:51 | vincentblack | i am understand ok |
04:10:48 | vincentblack | can i use automatic intallation? |
04:11:24 | [Saint] | Please just use the supplied documentation via the manual available at Rockbox.org. |
04:11:25 | vincentblack | or manually is it better for me? |
04:12:12 | [Saint] | I appreciate you have questions, but all your questions are answered by the documentation supplied. |
04:14:23 | vincentblack | ok i have seen but i an not very good in english language and imaffraid to make an error and brick the ipod .. |
04:15:07 | [Saint] | It is not possible to do so using the supplied tools in the intended fashion. |
04:15:30 | [Saint] | bricking an iPod takes very deliberate effort. |
04:15:40 | [Saint] | It is not possible to achieve this accidentally. |
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04:35:53 | vincentblack | can rockbox read flac? |
04:36:38 | vincentblack | lol |
04:37:21 | vincentblack | ty for answers .... |
04:43:34 | [Saint] | Yes. This is also detailed in the manual. |
04:44:26 | [Saint] | I would hazard a guess as to state that any question you could think of asking me in the near future is answered in the manual. |
04:48:44 | vincentblack | i f i i find aanother ipodlike this one,i would like to put on a raspberry pi zero ... |
04:50:19 | vincentblack | i have seen yesterday it's possible to plug the ipod screen on the pi zero. |
04:51:37 | vincentblack | but today ...we are just test rockbox i have see it's cool |
04:54:09 | [Saint] | That's a really silly idea seeing as how you can buy an LCD that'll work with any of the Raspberry Pi variants for ~$10 |
04:54:39 | [Saint] | you would be butchering a ~$50+ iPod for the sake of a ~$10 screen. |
04:54:51 | [Saint] | simple economics says that is a remarkably stupid idea. |
04:58:41 | vincentblack | lol of course |
04:59:47 | vincentblack | is it possible unplug the screen of ipod's case ... |
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05:00:26 | vincentblack | ~$10 lol |
05:00:40 | vincentblack | good |
05:07:29 | vincentblack | @Saint iS IT HARD to intall themes and font afer that? |
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05:22:45 | [Saint] | No. This is covered by the manual. |
05:30:42 | vincentblack | ok |
05:31:58 | vincentblack | to finish install when i unmount the ipod don't have i to push any buttons? |
05:32:45 | [Saint] | No. Every aspect of the installation for both automated and manual installs is detailed in the manual. |
05:33:05 | [Saint] | WHich is one of the (manY) reasons I keep on saying that all this is covered in the manual. |
05:34:06 | [Saint] | This project didn't spend hundreds of man hours making what is arguably one of the most detailed and complete user manuals for a FOSS project just for fun. |
05:34:23 | vincentblack | the ipod will restart auto when iunmont?* |
05:34:42 | [Saint] | No. |
05:35:12 | vincentblack | i see it's a superb cool project |
05:36:39 | [Saint] | Before you ask, dual-booting Rockbox and the original firmware is detailed in the...you guessed it, user manual. :) |
05:36:50 | vincentblack | sorry for my questions but is a friend ipod's ;and a another friend's of him has bricked one already ...lol |
05:37:30 | [Saint] | No he hasn't. |
05:37:38 | vincentblack | dualbooting is not possible directly? |
05:38:31 | [Saint] | Please just read the manual. This is covered in detail in the manual. |
05:39:12 | [Saint] | Regarding the "bricked" iPod, as discussed, this is not possible using the tools and binaries we supply without very deliberate effort. |
05:39:51 | [Saint] | Your friend is either mistaken or lying. |
05:41:04 | vincentblack | no the guy do that when he tryed to jailbreak |
05:41:17 | vincentblack | not with rockbox |
05:41:40 | vincentblack | chmod +x ipodpatcher i can't execute this command |
05:42:48 | [Saint] | There is no reason for you to be using the manual installation instructions. That is for advanced users. |
05:42:54 | vincentblack | i have forget something |
05:43:11 | vincentblack | ok i see |
05:51:51 | vincentblack | i have this now: http://dpaste.com/2SS03KA |
05:52:12 | vincentblack | is normal can i finish ? |
05:52:47 | vincentblack | saint : |
05:53:57 | [Saint] | No. That is not normal, and you are not finished. |
05:54:04 | [Saint] | What part of "That is for advanced users." was unclear? |
05:54:25 | [Saint] | Please use the GUI based installer, Rockbox Utility. |
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06:10:33 | vincentblack | im anoob lol |
06:11:17 | vincentblack | the GUI based installer run on linux? |
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06:12:35 | [Saint] | Yes. |
06:14:23 | vincentblack | it's good iwas no root when i do yhe last commands..... |
06:15:35 | vincentblack | http://dpaste.com/20PF3N9 |
06:23:23 | vincentblack | i find a superb wiki in french it's so cool |
06:24:12 | * | [Saint] sighs loudly |
06:24:37 | [Saint] | I give up. |
06:36:49 | vincentblack | lol |
06:37:25 | vincentblack | but i can't use now i must install some programs lol |
06:38:25 | [Saint] | I have no sympathy. |
06:39:00 | [Saint] | Despite repeated direction you have done the exact opposite at every possible instance and repeatedly refused to do things the simple way using the provided documentation. |
06:39:32 | [Saint] | If you want to make your life neddlessly difficult, you'll need to deal with the consequences yourself. |
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07:22:54 | vincentblack | lol |
07:23:02 | vincentblack | sorry |
07:25:08 | vincentblack | i have a site like a wiki in french just sorry to had disturb you |
07:25:24 | vincentblack | every thing is ok |
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08:18:57 | kaka | lol |
08:19:59 | [Saint] | You're rather easily amused? |
08:20:08 | [Saint] | Can we help you with something? |
08:21:30 | kaka | how add music and videos ? |
08:22:12 | [Saint] | This is covered in our fine manual. |
08:22:22 | kaka | i am not see |
08:22:28 | [Saint] | Oh, god - it's you again. |
08:22:40 | [Saint] | Hey vincentblack. |
08:22:41 | kaka | dear god |
08:22:47 | kaka | lol |
08:23:21 | kaka | my second name.... intheclient |
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08:24:16 | [Saint] | http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipod1g2g/rockbox-buildch3.html#x4-290003.1.4 |
08:24:18 | [Saint] | 3.1.4 Putting music on your player |
08:25:33 | kaka | thanksman |
08:26:31 | [Saint] | http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch12.html#x14-27000012.3.7 |
08:26:40 | [Saint] | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer |
08:27:45 | kaka | but after my installation is good to not have too much themes ; perhaps reduce's battery life |
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08:28:43 | kaka | lol i'm shut up !!!... |
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08:35:13 | [Saint] | kaka: please keep support in channel. |
08:35:41 | [Saint] | The audio that already exists on your device is accessible using the 'Database' function, as detailed in the manual. |
08:35:53 | kaka | i find 314 lol |
08:36:21 | kaka | i know ok |
08:36:45 | [Saint] | That would indicate that you managed to screw up somehow and deleted the existing data on the device. |
08:37:11 | kaka | my problems is i never use a ipod before ... |
08:37:19 | kaka | lol |
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08:37:38 | [Saint] | That's certainly /a/ problem. |
08:38:25 | [Saint] | The larger problem is your apparent unwillingness to find information clearly detailed in our user manual. |
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08:48:32 | kaka | but im so tired at this hour and english is like chineese foe me lol |
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10:32:02 | kaka | someome can assit me rapidely please |
10:32:06 | kaka | ? |
10:32:46 | kaka | assist* or small help... |
10:33:18 | kaka | to check database* |
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10:44:15 | kaka | Must i restart the ipod to auto transfert my database? |
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11:16:13 | kaka | no french peoples here? |
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13:18:14 | vincentblack | @help^^ i need a small help ihave reading the wiki but i would like to know yet many things.. |
13:23:19 | vincentblack | i just installed rock and i a little bit affraid to createa bug when checking database of ipod. |
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13:32:59 | vincentblack | must i convert something before check database of tags ...? |
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14:20:25 | pamaury | vincentblack: you'll have to be a little bit more specific, I don't understand what you mean |
14:21:06 | pamaury | Just so you know, Rockbox and ipod database are completely different, they don't work the same way and cannot be share. Rockbox's database will simply scan all the songs on the disk |
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14:53:20 | vincentblack | sorry my language is not very corrcet |
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15:06:37 | vincentblack | i just intalled rockbox and i wouldlike to export musics from aplle's databaseto convert in rockbo |
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15:12:04 | vincentblack | i see lot of errors in the musics repertorie of apple |
15:13:23 | vincentblack | my fault first time i use banhshee and the ipod....a mp3 called lib... lol |
15:14:16 | pamaury | vincentblack: the way the rockbox database works is that you put all of your music on your device, then in rockbox you go to Database. It will scan all your songs and that's it. |
15:16:41 | vincentblack | can i go to ipod_control directory and export all musics on the pc and after to put on datase's rockbox |
15:19:03 | vincentblack | i must tag my mp3's before put on rockbox? |
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15:19:25 | pamaury | I don't know how Apple database works. Rockbox uses tags |
15:19:36 | pamaury | so yeah it is enough (and necessary) that your music be tagged |
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15:20:48 | vincentblack | the problem Apple change names's |
15:21:36 | vincentblack | i think srapping is nessecary before !? |
15:23:11 | pamaury | srapping ? |
15:23:11 | pamaury | I don't think Apple changes the tags, but only the name of files. The name of the file is not used by the Rockbox database I think. |
15:23:42 | vincentblack | this is it yeah |
15:24:24 | pamaury | I don't use any synchronization software so I don't know how it works. If you have all your music on your PC, you can surely tell your software to sync all your music on the device |
15:25:08 | vincentblack | musics are on the ipod in aplle directory |
15:26:51 | pamaury | if they are tagged properly then you don't need to do anything, just go to the Database menu in Rockbox and it will scan them |
15:30:17 | vincentblack | and import them too? |
15:31:19 | pamaury | what do you mean import them ? They are already on the device you said |
15:31:20 | vincentblack | tey are taged properly but names of files have changed |
15:31:31 | pamaury | name don't matter if you just use the database |
15:32:57 | vincentblack | It 's not my device and doesn't to brik the device or lost the musics |
15:33:40 | vincentblack | i dont want to corrupt something ok ty |
15:34:25 | pamaury | Rockbox database does not remove or add songs. It simply scan all the songs on the devices and gives you an efficient way to search them. |
15:34:46 | vincentblack | an efficient way |
15:35:46 | vincentblack | what's way? |
15:36:38 | pamaury | For example if you device has two songs. A.mp3 and B.mp3 then the database will lists two songs: A and B. If you add a new song C.mp3 by copying it to your mp3, then the database will find it and now list 3 songs: A, B and C. If you remove a file from your device, the database will not list it anymore. Nothing magically. but also the database scans the tags so you can use it to find all songs that have the same artist or album or year, etc |
15:36:55 | vincentblack | i scan and i go just to directoruy apple_control to take the files? |
15:37:34 | * | gevaerts assumes that this ipod is not the only place where these audio files are stored |
15:37:35 | pamaury | I don't understand. Do you have the device at hand ? Is it running Rockbox ? If so, on the device using Rockbox, just go to Database in the main menu |
15:38:14 | vincentblack | yeah i have |
15:39:03 | vincentblack | my friend caling me yesterday and he would to have his music like before |
15:39:52 | vincentblack | Apple is curious system |
15:40:29 | vincentblack | hidden repertories.. |
15:42:37 | vincentblack | My friends who having Apple device can't convert a simple files themselves like mp3 to ogg or aac ... |
15:43:25 | gevaerts | *why* would you ever convert from mp3 to ogg? |
15:43:36 | vincentblack | no it a exemple |
15:46:19 | vincentblack | i dont understand why peoples loves Apple everywhere at the planet it's cool but not very simple system |
15:48:47 | vincentblack | your open source system are super i like clear simple and usefull |
15:51:51 | vincentblack | i don't have to install something to read videos ? |
15:52:43 | vincentblack | plugins perhaps? |
15:52:54 | pamaury | we have a plugin that read mpeg videos but it only reads a small number of codecs |
15:54:17 | vincentblack | not all videos i create a directorie like for the music and the video run but black screen |
15:54:35 | pamaury | the manual says: |
15:54:36 | pamaury | The Mpeg Player is a video player plugin capable of playing back MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 video streams with MPEG audio multiplexed into .mpg files. |
15:55:09 | vincentblack | ok |
15:55:43 | pamaury | so you might have to reencode videos if they use a codec like h264 |
15:55:45 | vincentblack | i must convertwith this details with my videoconverter! |
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16:17:55 | homiegwestside | i need a rockbox compatible mp3 player |
16:18:15 | homiegwestside | agptek raises my interest, coould someone recommend one? |
16:22:15 | pamaury | well unfortunately there aren't that many currently-being-sold players supported. There some work in progress for new targets but as usual we cannot make any progress. So it depends if you want a new player or don't mind buying second hand or refurbished |
16:22:27 | pamaury | *s/progress/promise |
16:23:37 | homiegwestside | my clip+ fried on me when i tried to charge it abroad |
16:24:04 | homiegwestside | thinking of getting sandisk to repair it if they can but alternatively want a new one with much better battery life |
16:24:40 | homiegwestside | the clip+ prices have doubled from my purchase in march 2014 |
16:29:20 | pamaury | yeah the clips prices have increased quite a lot, and the newer clips are not supported |
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16:52:00 | dongs | http://www.head-fi.org/t/817872/testing-changes-that-could-affect-audio-performance-with-different-file-copying-software |
16:53:37 | pamaury | OMG |
16:53:45 | dongs | you've been copying it all wrong |
16:54:19 | pamaury | I knew it, clearly if I copy the files by hand they will be less noisy and sound better |
16:54:39 | dongs | persnoally touch each bit of flash |
16:55:11 | pamaury | absolutely, songs need love, they sound better when they know you care about them |
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17:01:16 | elensil | pamaury: is it planned to have a usb_copy_by_hand method in Rockbox ? |
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17:02:47 | pamaury | unfortunately, by definition this is not possible, you need to disassemble your player and the touch the flash with your hand. Only then the Holy Grail of audio will become true |
17:04:04 | pamaury | But at this point you don't really a device anymore, sound will just appear in you ears. I mean the other day I ABXed my Fiio X1 against no player and no player clearly sounded better. |
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20:34:25 | lebellium | ulmutul (logs) and pamaury: |
20:34:26 | lebellium | 1) Thanks for g#1384. It works on device. I can change the colors in theme settings. |
20:34:27 | fs-bluebot_ | Gerrit review #1384 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1384 : Samsung YP-R0: Fix settings keymap (apply FS #13073 by lebellium) by Sebastian Leonhardt |
20:34:28 | lebellium | 2) As you talked about the alarm setting, I checked it: it doesn't seem to work on R0 and Fuze+, the devices didn't wake up at the time I set. |
20:34:29 | lebellium | 3) Looks like the manual is wrong: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansafuzeplus/rockbox-buildch11.html#x13-17400011 "Use Up and Down to adjust the minutes setting, Down and Up to adjust the hours". I assume it should be left and right for hours. |
20:34:31 | lebellium | 4) On YP-R0 we should add keymap left and right. I noticed there were more lines for button_context_settings in Fuze+ than in R0 but I didn't what this was for. Now I know it's for the alarm setting. |
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22:32:22 | ujcroon | anyone know about ipods? |
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23:34:34 | ulmutul | lebellium: fixed Fuze+ manual ( g#1386). Pushing now... |
23:34:35 | fs-bluebot_ | Gerrit review #1386 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1386 : Fuze+: fix manual (alarm keymap) by Sebastian Leonhardt |
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23:40:16 | ulmutul | lebellium: if all four directional keys work on R0, there's no need to change anything. The button_context_settings is chaning to CONTEXT_TREE, CONTEXT_LIST and finaly CONTEXT_STD, and right and left buttons are defined there. |
23:40:59 | ulmutul | It only needs to be (re-)defined if it interferes with other button actions. |
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23:52:07 | lebellium_z3c | ulmutul: looks like we're not in the same time zone. I was going to sleep like yesterday :P in wake-up alarm left or back = disable and right or select = set |
23:52:46 | lebellium_z3c | Left and right should ajust hours instead |
23:53:09 | ulmutul | On Fuze+? |
23:53:13 | lebellium_z3c | On R0 |
23:54:07 | ulmutul | So left and right don't change minutes? |
23:54:42 | lebellium_z3c | On YP-R0 up and down adjust minutes like on Fuze+ |
23:54:58 | lebellium_z3c | But left and right don't adjust hours |
23:55:16 | ulmutul | Ok, I'll have a look. |
23:56:56 | ulmutul | I'll update the g#1384 patch. Just leave a note if it compiles and works for you, and I'll push it maybe tomorrow :) |
23:56:57 | fs-bluebot_ | Gerrit review #1384 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1384 : Samsung YP-R0: Fix settings keymap (apply FS #13073 by lebellium) by Sebastian Leonhardt |
23:58:09 | lebellium_z3c | I guess it's just because action_std_prev and next are missing |