| 00:00:13 | ulmutul | Ok, I see! prev and next are there (in button_context_standard), but also mapped to up and down. |
| 00:02:37 | lebellium_z3c | In fuze+ keymapping there are prev and next in button_context_settings |
| 00:03:07 | ulmutul | Updated patch. |
| 00:04:28 | lebellium_z3c | Thanks. I'll try it out tomorrow night and give you a feedback here (i have no gerrit account to comment patches) |
| 00:05:38 | lebellium_z3c | Did you try the alarm on your fuze+ do you confirm it doesn't work? |
| 00:06:28 | pamaury | I'll try the alarm on mine, give me a minute |
| 00:06:39 | ulmutul | No, I haven't tried yet. |
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| 00:11:04 | pamaury | lebellium_z3c: ulmutul: alarm works on my fuze+ |
| 00:11:20 | lebellium_z3c | Hum |
| 00:11:28 | pamaury | it is possible that very old versions of the bootloader didn't have support for it |
| 00:11:52 | lebellium_z3c | I have bootloader v2 |
| 00:12:04 | lebellium_z3c | Don't know if it's the latest |
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| 00:14:12 | pamaury | lebellium_z3c: it's not working for you ? It's the latest released but I don't remember if it had a problem with it or not. I am not running a released bootloader |
| 00:14:51 | lebellium_z3c | Well I just set a wake up time and turned off the player |
| 00:15:23 | lebellium_z3c | I waited up to the set time and even more |
| 00:15:35 | lebellium_z3c | It didn't turn back on |
| 00:15:59 | pamaury | let me check the git logs see I fixed something since the last BL release |
| 00:16:08 | pamaury | I need to do a fuze+ BL release anyway |
| 00:18:14 | pamaury | lebellium_z3c: you are using a nightly build for the firmware ? |
| 00:18:20 | ulmutul | Player just woke up, so it works for me too. |
| 00:18:45 | lebellium_z3c | Yep I used a 2 days old build |
| 00:19:23 | ulmutul | How can I check the bootloader version? |
| 00:19:30 | lebellium_z3c | At startup |
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| 00:19:51 | ulmutul | Version V2 |
| 00:21:03 | lebellium_z3c | I check again. Should wake up at 00:25 |
| 00:21:42 | ulmutul | Btw did anyone of you test g#1199 already? ;) (See scrollstrip patch from the forum) |
| 00:21:43 | fs-bluebot_ | Gerrit review #1199 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1199 : POC Fuze+ Scrollstrip support by Sebastian Leonhardt |
| 00:23:20 | pamaury | as far as I can tell, for the fuze+, alarm support has been there almost from day 0 |
| 00:23:57 | lebellium_z3c | okay. I must be dreaming |
| 00:24:04 | lebellium_z3c | Will see in 2 min |
| 00:25:16 | lebellium_z3c | ulmutul: no and I'm not sure I understand really what it is about just while reading. I can have a look tomorrow night |
| 00:25:29 | pamaury | other people have reported alarm problems, it is possible the problem is elsewhere because the code is not doing something properly |
| 00:25:51 | pamaury | lebellium_z3c: no I haven't tested g#1199 but it looks interesting |
| 00:25:52 | fs-bluebot_ | Gerrit review #1199 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1199 : POC Fuze+ Scrollstrip support by Sebastian Leonhardt |
| 00:26:23 | pamaury | it just needs a lot of thinking to not break anything |
| 00:26:26 | lebellium_z3c | It's 00:25 and this fuze+ definitely won't wake up! |
| 00:26:53 | pamaury | lebellium_z3c: can you power up the player and check if the time is still set correctly ? |
| 00:27:11 | lebellium_z3c | Yep. Written 00:27 |
| 00:27:23 | ulmutul | I have a ready-to-use build linked in http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51426.0.html |
| 00:27:50 | ulmutul | You can also leave your comments there (ore here on IRC, I read the logs) |
| 00:28:58 | ujcroon | how do i convert my macpod into a winpod without itunes? |
| 00:29:54 | lebellium_z3c | Oh I really go to sleep now. Because my smartphone alarm really works contrary to my Fuze+ and will wake me up in a few hours :) |
| 00:30:12 | ulmutul | Good night o/ |
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| 01:58:45 | ujcroon | once i have installed the rockbox bootloader with ipodpatcher how do i overwrite the ipod firmware with rockbox? |
| 02:00 |
| 02:06:52 | [Saint] | ujcroon: this is detailed in http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPatcher#Advanced_usage |
| 02:07:36 | [Saint] | ujcroon: please keep in mind that there is pretty much absolutely zero reason to actually do this and it only provides a very marginal benefit on a couple of iPod variants. |
| 02:08:29 | [Saint] | On the iPod Video it can provide a 1 or 2 second decrease in total boot time. |
| 02:08:48 | [Saint] | But boot is fast enough for this to be pretty much irrelevant. |
| 02:09:14 | [Saint] | If you wanted to make a very real and quite observable difference in boot time the obvious answer is solid state conversion. |
| 02:09:57 | ujcroon | the reason i want to do it is because i have a macpod and was under the impression that overwriting the apple firmware would allow me to install rockbox |
| 02:10:15 | [Saint] | No. |
| 02:10:17 | ujcroon | i dont have access to itunes or windows |
| 02:10:34 | [Saint] | That is not the case at all. |
| 02:10:49 | ujcroon | and i am unable to find the proprietary files needed to do the fat32 coversion |
| 02:11:51 | [Saint] | Oh. You're the guy with the Macpod iPod Classic. |
| 02:12:00 | ujcroon | nano 2nd gen |
| 02:13:02 | [Saint] | Oh. That's an uncanny coincidence. |
| 02:13:06 | ujcroon | but yeah i tried to convert it to fat32 using the guide but no luck |
| 02:13:21 | [Saint] | There's been a couple of people trying to convert macpods over the past few days. |
| 02:14:46 | ujcroon | i guess maybe fewer people are using windows these days |
| 02:15:09 | [Saint] | What is actually preventing you from using a virtual machine or liveinstall for this? |
| 02:16:47 | [Saint] | I thought that the last time you and I spoke we had settled on you installing emCORE and providing Rockbox this way? |
| 02:16:52 | ujcroon | im running a live cd so im not sure vms will work |
| 02:17:32 | ujcroon | ok so that would overwrite apples firmware? |
| 02:17:43 | [Saint] | Yes. I said this at the time. |
| 02:18:16 | [Saint] | emCORE doesn't give a shit if it is a winpod or a macpod because we format the entire disk and provide no dual-boot facilities. |
| 02:18:18 | ujcroon | does rockbox handle power management any differently |
| 02:18:25 | [Saint] | Yes. |
| 02:18:32 | [Saint] | Rather. |
| 02:18:49 | ujcroon | because i am quite impressed with apples power management |
| 02:19:21 | ujcroon | the only good thing i can say about the firmware after having used it for a few days |
| 02:19:23 | [Saint] | Apple's solution is significantly less efficient than ours in multiple areas. |
| 02:19:43 | ujcroon | even better? |
| 02:19:58 | [Saint] | They hibernate, for one, which is hilarious on a solid state device where boot only takes a couple of seconds. |
| 02:20:32 | [Saint] | The Apple devices don't really have any concept of "off" until it has hibernated for several days. |
| 02:20:40 | [Saint] | We will actually turn the device off, completely. |
| 02:21:02 | [Saint] | Even if we disregard that we are largely more efficient in a number of other areas. |
| 02:21:07 | ujcroon | but rockbox uses more power right? |
| 02:21:11 | [Saint] | No. |
| 02:21:19 | ujcroon | i mean its so much more advanced |
| 02:21:48 | [Saint] | And many of those advancements are in the area of optimization. |
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| 02:24:21 | [Saint] | ujcroon: lets put it this way - we can provide you with ~24h of continuous playback. |
| 02:25:01 | [Saint] | (this assumes the battery is at full health and several user-facing optimizations can be made) |
| 02:27:36 | ujcroon | i tried running the emcore image using ipodpatcher but it wouldnt work |
| 02:28:50 | ujcroon | it wouldnt recognize the ipod |
| 02:29:24 | ujcroon | and the ipod says use itunes to restore |
| 02:30:21 | [Saint] | That probably revolves around your very highly questionable decision of using a liveinstall as your primary operating system. |
| 02:30:28 | [Saint] | (seriously - why?) |
| 02:31:24 | ujcroon | im not sure |
| 02:31:36 | ujcroon | i just got used to it |
| 02:32:07 | ujcroon | so is there any way to recover without itunes? |
| 02:32:37 | ujcroon | or just overwrite at least |
| 02:34:29 | ujcroon | i think it may have to do with gtkpod |
| 02:34:44 | ujcroon | as i had that open at the time |
| 02:35:29 | [Saint] | gtkpod is only an iTunes database management backend. |
| 02:37:26 | [Saint] | If you force the iPod into disk mode it should be addressable using ipodpatcher, but you need to use ipodpatcher as a user with elevated privileges because we need block level write. |
| 02:38:14 | [Saint] | as discussed emCORE really doesn't care about whether or not the iPod is FAT or HFS+ formatted as it completely destroys the original environment anyway. |
| 02:39:50 | ujcroon | ok its in disk mode |
| 02:40:07 | ujcroon | im running ipodpatcher sudoed |
| 02:40:24 | ujcroon | cant find ipods |
| 02:41:20 | ujcroon | its odd because it shows up as a usb disk |
| 02:41:26 | [Saint] | Can you supply me with a your dmesg output after unplugging and replugging the iPod please. |
| 02:41:59 | [Saint] | 'sudo lsusb' output would also be desirable. |
| 02:42:15 | [Saint] | (please pastebin this - don't shit it out in channel) |
| 02:47:38 | ujcroon | http://pasted.co/37787eba |
| 02:47:47 | ujcroon | dmesg |
| 02:48:17 | ujcroon | dont have lsusb installed |
| 02:50:01 | [Saint] | I'm sure in a live install you don't have a lot of things installed - but there's nothing stopping you from doing so. |
| 02:51:40 | ujcroon | it cant find the package |
| 02:53:19 | ujcroon | ok i have it now |
| 02:54:16 | ujcroon | http://pasted.co/0888cd00 |
| 02:57:07 | [Saint] | What distribution actually is this? |
| 02:57:14 | ujcroon | debian |
| 02:57:21 | ujcroon | wheezy |
| 02:58:10 | [Saint] | And what on Earth did you do to this iPod? You got slap-happy with partitioning tools didn't you? |
| 02:58:25 | ujcroon | no not at all |
| 02:58:46 | ujcroon | i installed hfsprogs but thats all |
| 02:58:50 | ujcroon | and gtkpod |
| 02:59:01 | ujcroon | didnt save when i exited though |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:05 | ujcroon | it has 3 partitions |
| 03:00:55 | ujcroon | 127k unknown 67mb unknown and 4.0gb hfs+ |
| 03:02:58 | ujcroon | i did delete some tunes using gtkpod i think thats what might have caused this |
| 03:03:02 | [Saint] | There's absolutely no reason why an actual debian installation wouldn't address this device using ipodpatcher, so my current running theory is that this madness is caused by your decision to utilize live-installs for no obvious reason. |
| 03:03:29 | ujcroon | it was working fine before |
| 03:03:46 | ujcroon | ok so i will reboot and see what happens |
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| 03:15:15 | ujcroon | ipodpatcher still wont recognize it |
| 03:19:46 | [Saint] | Well it is very clearly presenting itself to the host correctly so I am at this point very readily going to blame your convoluted host environment. |
| 03:21:06 | ujcroon | how long does a restore take |
| 03:21:17 | ujcroon | using itunes |
| 03:21:33 | [Saint] | Can you actually supply me with the output of ipodpatcher run both with and without arguments please? |
| 03:22:09 | [Saint] | around 2 minutes, but most of that time is just allowing ridiculous timeout traps to expire. |
| 03:23:00 | ujcroon | no args http://pasted.co/bdbb2320 |
| 03:24:04 | [Saint] | yeah - that's largely inexplicable. |
| 03:25:43 | ujcroon | with args |
| 03:25:46 | ujcroon | http://pasted.co/2a598625 |
| 03:25:53 | ujcroon | same thing |
| 03:26:08 | ujcroon | its odd because it was working earlier |
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| 03:30:08 | [Saint] | You're not using USB3 ports or case-mounted USB ports by any chance, are you? |
| 03:30:22 | ujcroon | case mounted |
| 03:30:23 | [Saint] | If either one of those is true, could you make it non-true and re-test. |
| 03:30:50 | [Saint] | Use a port that has a direct connection to the motherboard. |
| 03:31:05 | [Saint] | case-mount ports are pretty much universally shit. |
| 03:31:44 | ujcroon | same issue |
| 03:32:44 | ujcroon | i think it had something to do with me deleting files on the ipod |
| 03:34:05 | [Saint] | No. Nothing presented on the iPod on user-facing storage is necessary or required. |
| 03:35:39 | ujcroon | so lets say i go to the library and restore the ipod |
| 03:35:55 | ujcroon | once i have emcore installed |
| 03:36:28 | ujcroon | am i done? |
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| 03:36:48 | ujcroon | is rockbox part of emcore |
| 03:37:05 | [Saint] | Wait...what? Go to a library, and this library not only allows user-provided USB devices, but it has software on it that can perform block level writes on said user-supplied hardware? |
| 03:37:11 | [Saint] | Fuck me that is horrifying. |
| 03:37:20 | [Saint] | And no. It is not. |
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| 03:37:51 | [Saint] | But "installing Rockbox" is simply extracting an archive to the root of storage. |
| 03:38:01 | ujcroon | hah well i hope they do |
| 03:38:15 | [Saint] | I suspect you will be greatly disappointed. |
| 03:39:21 | [Saint] | Any library with even half a clue will present environments that have no ability to escalate outside of a standard user, no ability to install any software, and no USB ports available even if the other two were true (which I hope to God they are not). |
| 03:40:10 | ujcroon | they do allow live usbs hat much i know |
| 03:40:20 | [Saint] | Why not just install a real operating system to a removable storage device on your current machine? |
| 03:40:31 | [Saint] | My God that is absolutely horrifying. |
| 03:40:57 | [Saint] | Anyone with even a slight degree of determination and skill could absolutely own those machines. |
| 03:41:01 | [Saint] | That's terrifying. |
| 03:41:15 | ujcroon | well its only a library |
| 03:41:17 | [Saint] | I sure as shit wouldn't plug any of my hardware into these machines. |
| 03:41:35 | ujcroon | good point |
| 03:42:07 | [Saint] | And "only a library" really doesn't excuse being gleefully ignorant of basic access control protocols - where is this geographucally? This interests me. |
| 03:42:15 | ujcroon | uk |
| 03:42:23 | [Saint] | Baffling. |
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| 03:42:48 | ujcroon | we havent gone all homelandish yet |
| 03:43:25 | [Saint] | Errrr...yeah, you have, in a very big way. In an even more aggressive way than the US, actually. |
| 03:43:44 | ujcroon | well ok its a prison island |
| 03:44:04 | ujcroon | but the libraries are still normal |
| 03:44:17 | [Saint] | Even the US isn't so blatant as to publicly announce they are performing mass collections on their own citizens. |
| 03:44:27 | dongs | wahgt |
| 03:44:32 | [Saint] | The UK apparently thinks that's fine though. |
| 03:44:35 | ujcroon | we have cctv everywhere |
| 03:44:47 | ujcroon | facial recognition everything |
| 03:44:55 | dongs | please don't tell me the above wall of text is generated beacuse a user has "freedom issues" with running windows on a home PC |
| 03:45:02 | ujcroon | they can tell your a criminal by your gait |
| 03:45:22 | [Saint] | dongs: I haven't pressed the issue of why - I've been leaving that alone. |
| 03:45:37 | [Saint] | I have however stated several times that I believe it to be largely silly. |
| 03:46:05 | ujcroon | i need a spare usb |
| 03:46:09 | dongs | i don't mind running some lunix VMs with textmode-console but there's no fucking way that stuff would be anywhere NEAR my desktop |
| 03:46:45 | ujcroon | cant find any isos of windows live cds |
| 03:46:56 | dongs | i mean, in like 1996 i thought lunix desktop was great but its 2016 and its just as shitty as it was 20 years ago |
| 03:47:06 | [Saint] | dongs: If only multi-boot environments existed... |
| 03:47:12 | [Saint] | Oh, wait, reality - they do. ;) |
| 03:47:13 | dongs | meanwhile everything else moved on |
| 03:47:52 | ujcroon | i dont even know how to use windows terminal |
| 03:48:09 | dongs | thats beacuse you dont need to |
| 03:48:54 | [Saint] | I keep a Windows native install around on my desktops (PXE boot) solely for gaming and that's it. Aside from gaming (which is getting less and less limited by the month) there is absolutely no reason why I need Windows in my life. |
| 03:49:35 | [Saint] | The whole "Linux Desktops are unusable in a modern world" thing is frankly bullshit. |
| 03:50:00 | dongs | if your "desktop" usage is fullscreen irc client and vi/emacs editing Makefiles in a terminal, yeah |
| 03:50:32 | [Saint] | I just outlines my usage above. |
| 03:50:41 | [Saint] | Allow me to reiterate that your position is bullshit. ;) |
| 03:50:52 | dongs | 'gaming'? |
| 03:51:22 | ujcroon | most people i know have ditched windows 10 because its so bad |
| 03:51:34 | [Saint] | There's absolutely nothing that I can't do on a Linux desktop that I would even want to do on one besides running the occasional dated PC game. |
| 03:51:39 | dongs | i'm sure if you don't mind running absolutely fucking closed-sores, non-free, commercial, and potentially spyware system called "steam" on your "lunix desktop", by all means, feel free to game on lunix. |
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| 03:52:16 | dongs | ujcroon: i've been using 10 since it came out and just recently upgraded to 1607, its absolutely great |
| 03:52:26 | ujcroon | what? |
| 03:52:36 | dongs | what what? |
| 03:52:37 | [Saint] | Can you knock off your perpetual meme of lunix and closed|open-sores shit? |
| 03:52:41 | [Saint] | It is really annoying. |
| 03:53:28 | ujcroon | dongs: i dont know if you are being ironic or serious |
| 03:53:36 | [Saint] | Sadly, he's serious. |
| 03:53:42 | dongs | ujcroon: i'm dead serious when i talk about windows on my desktop |
| 03:54:08 | dongs | "sadly" |
| 03:54:18 | dongs | why do you feel the need to add adjectives like that to my opinion? |
| 03:54:36 | dongs | is it wrong that me (and billions other people) find windows perfectly usable for daily tasks? |
| 03:54:37 | [Saint] | His use case is the only use case that matters and his (almost certainly PEBCAK) use case scenarious and biased opinion invalidate our own experiences. |
| 03:54:39 | [Saint] | Didn't you know? |
| 03:55:42 | ujcroon | yeah horses for courses i guess |
| 03:55:53 | dongs | lets see |
| 03:55:54 | [Saint] | dongs: Because it would be a lot easier to stomach this if it was obvious that you were trolling. The fact that I know you're actually serious is disappointing on multiple levels. |
| 03:55:57 | dongs | i do 3 things on my desktop |
| 03:56:32 | [Saint] | So your admittedly vastly limited use case and observational bias governs the reality of others? |
| 03:56:42 | [Saint] | Quaint. |
| 03:56:56 | dongs | 1) schematic/pcb layout. no usable equivalent on lunix 2) embedded software development. again, no usable alternative to commercial IDEs 3) occasional desktop software development. no equivalent to visaul studio in lunix. 4) trolling on irc. that one I could do on lunix but then I wouldn't be getting paid. |
| 03:57:02 | dongs | (ok, 4 things) |
| 03:57:25 | [Saint] | 1: bullshit, 2: bullshit, 3: bullshit |
| 03:57:41 | dongs | 2: makefile/eclipse/GNUCC is not a solution |
| 03:58:00 | dongs | 3: ditto for trash like "KDEVELOP" and other jokes that attempt to copy worst parts of VS interface |
| 03:58:02 | [Saint] | It is a solution. It not being one you're capable of accepting is irrelevant. |
| 03:58:21 | dongs | 1: kikcad, geda, etc are buggy incompleted pieces of shit lacking the most basic functionality |
| 03:58:24 | ujcroon | cant you just run appvm? |
| 03:58:33 | ujcroon | xen or something |
| 03:58:48 | dongs | why? there's nothing I need on linux, why would I run linux just to run windows apps on top of it |
| 03:59:02 | dongs | instead, I can run windows and run linux in VMs as needed |
| 03:59:09 | ujcroon | i dunno just seems cleaner |
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| 03:59:49 | [Saint] | dongs: and that's great, you can do that, but your shitty observations do not govern the reality of others who can and do make use of full *nix environments on a daily basis. |
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| 04:00:26 | [Saint] | The fact that the vast majority of contributors here use a linux system as their primary development systems completely invalidates most of your argument. |
| 04:00:26 | dongs | saint, if it was the rule rather than exception, in the perfect world, everyone would be on a linux desktop |
| 04:00:32 | dongs | but the reality is infact quite the opposite |
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| 04:01:15 | [Saint] | You seriously think people here hate themselves enough to run Windows systems for development? |
| 04:01:22 | [Saint] | If you do, you're vastly mistaken. |
| 04:02:02 | [Saint] | The fact that you can't or won't do so is largely irrelevant. Fortunately your experiences and opinions don't govern reality. |
| 04:02:20 | ujcroon | to be fair a lot of people are switching from windows to other systems |
| 04:02:52 | dongs | https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0 |
| 04:03:02 | [Saint] | Yes. This has been the case for about a decade now. There is less and less reason to run Windows systems. |
| 04:03:03 | dongs | statistics disagree |
| 04:03:24 | dongs | [Saint]: there was a post on slashdot recently that KDE is dying as DE, beacuse it hasnt been updated in years |
| 04:03:33 | [Saint] | And? |
| 04:03:51 | [Saint] | You think there's only one DE in linux userspace? |
| 04:03:56 | dongs | lol. |
| 04:03:59 | ujcroon | i know 2 people using windows and they use xp |
| 04:04:03 | dongs | I know there's a 1312908273, and thats hte problem |
| 04:04:22 | dongs | instead of making something that isnt complete shit, they spread already thin development resources on reinventing the wheel |
| 04:04:46 | dongs | so what you end up with is a whoel bunch of mostly incomplete, buggy pieces of shit |
| 04:05:05 | * | [Saint] tires of this |
| 04:05:05 | [Saint] | Not only is your position false, it is irrelevant to this channel, lets knock it off. |
| 04:05:05 | [Saint] | Consider this as a warning with regard to continues discussions going forward. |
| 04:05:11 | dongs | k |
| 04:05:16 | [Saint] | *continued |
| 04:06:32 | [Saint] | I don't mean to crush the discussion but we're obviously not going to agree with each other and this isn't really the right place to have this discussion anyway. |
| 04:07:07 | [Saint] | The best case scenario is it continues until one of use gets angry enough to say or do something we can't take back. So its best to...not. |
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| 04:12:03 | ujcroon | i gotta go its pretty late |
| 04:12:36 | ujcroon | will try getting hold of a windows cd |
| 04:13:21 | ujcroon | later |
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| 07:13:42 | vincentblack | gameboy stable emu? |
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| 07:43:58 | vincentblack | what i do to quite game on emulator ? |
| 07:50:18 | vincentblack | gbc |
| 07:50:38 | vincentblack | how i fold the game? |
| 07:53:29 | vincentblack | found |
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| 10:46:56 | vincentblack | hello |
| 10:53:33 | vincentblack | Sorry i havea question about rockbox how i can modif the menu theme 's title "Rockbox" by another like Rockbox team beta for exemple |
| 10:54:32 | vincentblack | must i download a dev version,? |
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| 12:13:41 | pamaury | vincentblack: I would need to check but I think changing a menu item name will require to recompile rockbox |
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| 12:19:19 | pamaury | yes indeed, the "Rockbox" root menu title is hardcoded |
| 12:25:02 | vincentblack | it will require effectively |
| 12:26:19 | vincentblack | my friend hate rockbox i need to uninstall |
| 12:27:02 | vincentblack | pfff he is sick offf is mad man... |
| 12:27:53 | vincentblack | he have just mp3 and dont want to have flac .... |
| 12:28:27 | vincentblack | and the sound is better lol |
| 12:28:46 | vincentblack | on volume. |
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| 20:52:07 | lebellium | ulmutul: g#1384 works on device as expected, thanks |
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| 21:34:59 | lebellium | pamaury: what information do you need in debug menu for the alarm? |
| 21:35:26 | pamaury | lebellium: set the alarm, for example in 5 min. Then go to system > debug > show hw info > rtc |
| 21:35:35 | lebellium | yeah I did that |
| 21:35:40 | pamaury | and give me the values of "seconds", "alarm" and "persistent0" |
| 21:37:04 | lebellium | seconds: 59293950 |
| 21:37:20 | pamaury | seconds is the time (relative to something that depends on the device), alarm is the alarm time (relative to the same thing as seconds). The device should wake up when seconds == alarm. And seconds is incremented every second even during power off. Finally for the device to wake up, you need the bits 1 and 2 of persistent0 to be 1 afaik |
| 21:37:20 | lebellium | alarm 59294124 |
| 21:37:38 | lebellium | persist0 = 0x80127 |
| 21:39:38 | pamaury | I can't see anything suspicious, it seems to me that the device should wake up with this |
| 21:40:13 | pamaury | in 59293950 - 59294124 ~= 3 minutes |
| 21:40:47 | pamaury | lebellium: can you set the alarm in the future, for example in 1 or 2 minutes. Then power down. |
| 21:41:16 | pamaury | Wait for the alarm to be passed. And power on. Then give me the value of persistent0 WITHOUT setting a new alarm |
| 21:42:07 | lebellium | 0x80121 |
| 21:42:22 | pamaury | so this is after the device should have woken up but didn't ? |
| 21:42:44 | lebellium | yes, it's after what I wrote above. I idn't set the alarm again |
| 21:43:03 | pamaury | is the value of seconds greater than alarm ? |
| 21:43:53 | lebellium | yep, alarm is still 59294124 and seconds are 59294357 |
| 21:44:56 | pamaury | hum, I think I will need to send you a custom build and maybe a custom bootloader to debug this |
| 21:45:34 | pamaury | I am flying in 10 minutes so I won't be online in the next two days or so, but next time I am on the channel, I'll try to debug this with you |
| 21:46:01 | lebellium | ok no problem |
| 21:46:10 | lebellium | thanks |
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| 23:20:32 | Jimmy_ | I want to know what is the development on the Clip Sport |
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