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#rockbox log for 2016-09-03

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19:38:48BapteashHi there : )
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20:04:44BapteashHello there :)
20:04:53BapteashDoes anybody know if RockBox would get updated someday ?
20:05:46__builtinit gets updated very frequently
20:06:11__builtinit's just that releases are relatively infrequent
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20:06:54__builtinBapteash: you can monitor the latest commits here: http://www.rockbox.org/since-4weeks.html
20:07:05Bapteashah yes? so it's still 3.13 but with minor changes?
20:07:42__builtincertainly not "minor" by any stretch
20:08:29Bapteashbut how to get the changes?
20:08:38Bapteashcan we trust anything?
20:08:54shdwprincethat's rhetorical question
20:09:06Bapteashlol ok
20:09:09__builtinyou'll need to grab the latest dev build off the site
20:09:16__builtinhttp://build.rockbox.org/
20:10:29Bapteashanybody with an ipod video 5th gen?
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20:14:26Bapteashi set to the stock 3.13 firmware and customized the settings a bit! it's fast enough, the EQ is a good help for inside the car
20:14:46Bapteashbut I wondered if the latest builds were bringing something really good?
20:15:12__builtinBapteash: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MajorChanges
20:18:37Bapteashthank you very much ! :)
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20:19:16Bapteashto update, I just copy paste the archive into my ipod hdd, right?
20:19:31__builtinyou need to extract all the files to the root of the ipod
20:19:36__builtinnot just copy the ZIP
20:19:44Bapteashof course haha :)
20:20:06Bapteashsettings are keeped?
20:20:16Bapteashi'm really sorry to anoy your with my questions
20:20:16__builtinthey should be
20:20:27__builtinBapteash: it's no problem ;)
20:20:56Bapteashi've always been reading IRC chat logs all my life and I only came to that channel
20:21:25__builtinwhat do you mean when you say, "can we trust anything?"
20:22:31BapteashAre the updates/imporvements/new functions are controller by someone or is it free for all?
20:22:39Bapteashcontrolled*
20:22:47BapteashMaybe I will backup my current setup
20:23:21shdwprincesure it's free, but there's maintainers who control releases and master branches to ensure quality
20:23:25__builtinBapteash: your settings should be preserved
20:24:06Bapteasha backup never costs anything :p
20:24:22__builtinregarding trust, all committers are peer-vetted before given commit access
20:24:36__builtinand all patches are peer-reviewed by a committer before being merged
20:25:12Bapteashthat's beautiful
20:26:07__builtinand of course, you can read the code yourself if you can't trust us :P
20:26:33Bapteashi'm not a programmer, well I don't know that much
20:26:38Bapteashi'm a small geek
20:26:53Bapteashthe update was made, the iPod rebooted and the database is building again
20:27:31__builtincongrats!
20:27:36Bapteashbut I'm not very reassured haha, the text says it found 4182 files and the hard drive just stopped spinning
20:30:11Bapteashdamn it :s
20:30:18Bapteashit's all frozen
20:30:59__builtintry rebooting it
20:31:04Bapteashalready did
20:31:11__builtinand it still freezes?
20:31:16Bapteashit's says the database is not ready
20:31:25Bapteashand when doing, it goes to 4182 files very quick
20:31:31Bapteashthen hard disk automatically stops
20:33:41Bapteashi will try deleting the files of the database
20:34:09Bapteashhmm, inside the archive, was a file named "database.ignore"
20:34:46Bapteashdeleted this file as well
20:35:12Bapteashok, now it seems to be better!
20:36:30shdwprincedamn, this reminds me that I should update my 6G too. but there are custom patches and custom FS (it was installed back in the day when there wasn't official rockbox loader), so it's gonna take a day or so
20:37:34Bapteashshdwprice : I bought a 6G for 260 eur (with Apple 1 year Care Plan) and sold it for 170 eur after I found the sound very bad
20:37:48Bapteashgot my 5G 80 Go refurbished for 30 eur
20:37:58Bapteashthe guy that sold to me was crying when giving it to me
20:40:10__builtinshdwprince: there have been many patches for the 6G recently
20:40:22shdwprincedunno about the sound. I've heard that there's different chip in early 6G, but apparently I have the one from later revisions.
20:40:31__builtinUSB is much more stable now, I'd say 99.9% reliability
20:40:33shdwprince_builtin: yeah, saw that
20:40:49shdwprincethat's the primary reason I want to update fw
20:41:14shdwprincebut imagine copying 100GB of music with connection that bad (fw is probably few years old)
20:42:45__builtinyou can upgrade the firmware and use the newer driver to copy the music
20:43:31shdwprinceI still need to copy music from the ipod at the first place :(
20:45:30__builtinyou can upgrade rockbox without need to copy off the music
20:47:36shdwprincethere's custom FS (emcore), and there's no official firmware here
20:48:22shdwprinceI mean, maybe I can, but it still feels like I need to spend entire day trying
20:51:27__builtinjust mount the ipod and extract the rockbox build
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20:53:42shdwprinceyeah, I figured that too. I'm afraid that number of bugs is in emcore's implementation itself; I want to make it right - proper kernel, dual boot and stuff
20:55:03shdwprinceby the way, you don't know - is newer versions got button layout on ipod like in official fw? I mean that play/pause/>>/<< does it's job even when in the menus
20:56:43__builtinI don't believe so
20:58:45shdwprincethat was the thing that bugged me about rockbox so I made a patch for it
20:58:53shdwprincethat thing needs porting too
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21:06:26BapteashSo after sometime of using the last build
21:06:36BapteashOne major defect: when browsing it's slow
21:06:49Bapteashit sometimes shows the windows that counts the files or name to display
21:06:50Bapteash:s
21:06:57Bapteashwindow*
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21:07:15shdwprinceI believe it's still generating db or something
21:07:21shdwprinceexplains why it's slow
21:07:48Bapteashdatabase is built, what do you mean? if you can be more precise please :)
21:08:16Bapteashdo I need to go in every artists to help it?
21:08:41shdwprinceI don't know for sure. Haven't been using DB since forever
21:08:58Bapteashhow do you do?
21:09:13shdwprinceI've got all sorted out using folders
21:09:20shdwprincefolder for artist, folders for albums
21:11:12Bapteashwhen I go into "Folder and Files" there's nothing
21:12:14Bapteashok I found why
21:12:18Bapteashit's faster
21:13:07shdwprincemore like of laziness to correct tags
21:13:40Bapteashyes I get it haha, my tags are kind of very correct
21:13:46Bapteashbut the database thing is so slow
21:13:53Bapteashit was fasted before the update :/
21:14:34Bapteashskipping a song is very long too...
21:14:45Bapteashit's horrible
21:15:26Bapteashi'm gonna go back to old firmware
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21:20:37shdwprincemaybe it's better to give it some time?
21:23:04Bapteashnope, got back to old firmware, fast as f*** !!
21:23:18Bapteashthere was nothing interesting I guess
21:24:33Bapteashthe volume limiter was great though
21:24:46Bapteash2014-01-13: Introduce volume limiter
21:25:56Bapteash" 2014-08-29: New more efficient file system interface that speeds up disk access and reduces memory usage" i don't think so..
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21:26:31Bapteashtoo bad! :) n
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