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#rockbox log for 2016-09-19

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07:57:24duo8can rockbox handle a 2k+ dynamic playlist?
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13:39:39pamauryduo8: re playlist: no idea, that's a good question actually. I suggest you try it. Otherwise I'll try to have a look at the code
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14:51:19nick_pLooks like Fiio X1 ver 2 will be Linux based: http://www.head-fi.org/t/819817/fiio-x1-ii-2nd-gen-w-bluetooth/90#post_12874239
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14:57:04pamaurynick_p: thanks for the info
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15:00:56nick_pThere's also some interesting stuff in that thread about the touch-based scroll wheel: http://www.head-fi.org/t/819817/fiio-x1-ii-2nd-gen-w-bluetooth/75#post_12871990
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15:58:01pamauryI really need to hurry with the Fiio X1 port
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16:09:39cereal_killerAs the latest builds for the Cowon D2 do not work (panics), I could try to find out which commit did break the builds by compiling old builds. Would this be a good idea. Any other suggestions to help debugging?
16:11:20cereal_killerfollowing the discussion here http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20160514#17:00:19 I am sure that this is not within my capabilities
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16:14:27gevaertscereal_killer: finding the first broken commit is always useful. Finding out more details is better of course, but every bit helps
16:16:06cereal_killerthanks for your answer gevaerts. don't know if this information was recognized http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20160515#13:59:11
16:16:43gevaertsHmmm
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16:17:07cereal_killera question to compiling: to check out old versions I use git checkout <hash>, right?
16:17:23gevaertsThat makes me suspect the JhMikeS' filesystem rework...
16:17:41gevaertsYes, although for your specific use (finding the bad one) there's also git bisect
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16:18:31cereal_killer<hash> is the 7 digit number of the devbuilds, right?
16:18:35gevaertsYes
16:19:26gevaertsWell, technically those are the first 7 digits of the actual hash which is longer, and git accepts any length that's "long enough"
16:19:48gevaerts7 digits usually are long enough
16:22:04gevaertsWhat git bisect does is automate the entire process. You tell it the hash of a known good commit, and the hash of a known bad commit, and it then checks out versions in between and asks you whether that one is good or bad until it found the cut-off
16:22:16gevaertsNothing you can't do yourself of course, but it's handy
16:22:27cereal_killerI see. reading https://git-scm.com/docs/git-bisect right now...
16:23:41cereal_killerthis is totally new to me. I feel comfortable with manually compile old build and find the first non working one, but maybe I give bisect a try (leraning something new is always appealing)
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16:33:12cereal_killergevaerts: dou you mean this: http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=7d1a47cf13726c95ac46027156cc12dd9da5b855
16:33:46gevaertscereal_killer: yes. Unless you tell me that's much too early :)
16:35:44gevaertsThe reason being that update_fsinfo32() is about updating FAT data on disk, and the D2 being read-only, and that commit changing a lot of filesystem-related things
16:36:48cereal_killerI use a build from july 2013 which works. I think I realized that builds were broken around beginning of 2015. there is also a bugreport from april 2015: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/13042
16:37:19gevaertsOK, so the timeframe still allows that one
16:37:56cereal_killerOK, I see.
16:38:06gevaertsAs far as I can see it was pushed to rockbox in august 2014
16:41:05cereal_killerso I try the builds before and after that commit and see waht happens.
16:42:16gevaertsYes. From looking at that bug report and the code I'm 99% certain it's that
16:42:53gevaertsThe basic problem being that rockbox doesn't actually handle read-only disks. It mostly worked before, but that was mostly by accident, really
16:44:43gevaertsOne thing you could try is commenting out (or deleting) everything in update_fsinfo32() in firmware/drivers/fat.c, so it does nothing at all
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16:46:55gevaertsHmmm, that's probably not enough
16:48:53cereal_killerok, will try and report back asap, but could you specify which lines please? I am close to unfamiliar with the code.
16:49:13gevaertsI'll give you another set that's more likely to be useful :)
16:49:53gevaertsIn dc_writeback_callback() in fat.c, remove the block around panicf(). I'll put a patch on a pastebin
16:50:04cereal_killersounds great :-)
16:50:14gevaertshttp://paste.debian.net/829753/
16:50:38gevaertsSo near line 365
16:51:28gevaertsI suspect that may be enough to make disk writes as "sloppy" as before, i.e. without any real checking
16:51:46gevaertsSo things should be back to working by accident :)
16:52:15gevaertsProper support for read-only disks would be better, although proper write support would be even better than that of course...
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16:58:31cereal_killerOk, I will try that. Yes, it's a pity that the D2 never made it to stable.
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