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#rockbox log for 2016-10-28

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00:13:32xza23Thanks Pamaury :)
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03:45:05GeogaddiHey all. Looking for some help with my new iFlash modded iPod. I've used the instructions on freemyipod.org with the v8-designware beta . Rockbox is running fine but when I go to boot into apple disc mode it freezes and hangs on the Apple logo. I've done some searching but cant find any info. Using a 128gb sd card if that changes anything. Thanks in advance :)
03:45:26Geogaddiipod 6.5/7g btw (A1238)
03:49:48Geogaddinevermind, seems that i was just timing it incorrectly, weird that it still showed the apple logo. cheers anyway ;P
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20:30:07cryhamhi pamaury, so i replaced .rockbox dir with my backup from 2013
20:30:17cryhamand it works fine, as it did back then
20:30:31pamaurycryham: ok, so we need to bisect to understand what is wrong
20:30:52pamaurydo you have time in an hour? I can send you builds to test (or I can tell you which one to build)
20:31:06cryhamok
20:31:53cryhamif you send it'd be easier
20:32:01cryhami didn't yet get to building
20:32:56pamaurysure, see you later then. Can you just tell me/find out the revision of that build from 2013 ? It should be printed in the System > Info menu I think
20:33:15cryhamsure, one sec
20:35:13cryham15fa7f8-130605
20:36:25pamaurythanks
20:37:30pamaurycryham: so git tells me we will need to test around 10 builds to successfully bisect
20:38:18pamauryI will send them to you, you try them carefully, if necessary many times and tell me if it works or not
20:38:22pamaurybuilding the first one...
20:38:30cryhamokay
20:41:05pamaurycryham: also when you test them, I suggest you always reboot the device between tests
20:41:24cryhamso power off and on
20:41:39pamauryAND confirm the version in System > Info menu
20:41:44cryhamok
20:41:50pamauryto avoid any mistake ;) (did that once)
20:42:04cryhamright
20:42:34pamauryhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/5m16te9yjojhvd7/rockbox_331bf690.zip?dl=0
20:42:46pamaury(the version is the hex string in the name)
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20:43:51*pamaury is looking at Sony's list of MP3 devices, their naming makes litteraly no sense, sometimes NWZ, sometimes NW, and why A,B,E,X,Z series ? And why sometimes there is an F at the end???
20:45:55cryhamhmm so i just renamed .rockbox to .rockbox- and copied the .rockbox from archive here
20:46:09cryhamplugged out usb power off and on
20:46:20cryhamand weirdly i see my previous version still
20:46:56pamauryare you sure you extracted the new archive and it created a .rockbox directory?
20:47:16cryhamyes
20:47:46pamaurycryham: try erasing .rockbox and re-unpack ?
20:47:50cryhamah wait
20:47:57cryhamjust plugged in usb
20:48:07cryhamand i see other named drive
20:48:37cryhamyeah probably did that on memory card
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20:49:14cryhamok got the new one
20:49:15pamauryrobertd1: I have some news
20:49:33robertd1hi, tell me :)
20:50:05pamauryI looked into some binary on the nwz and found some useful information. First I found a very complete list of devices and I now know how to can tell the exact model from the npv. Also I found a list of destination
20:50:37pamauryIf you have your devices at hands and a work scsitool, I'd like to test if my theory is right
20:51:08robertd1sure lets test it
20:51:09pamauryto build scsitool, go to utils/nwztools/scsitools/ and run "make clean" and "make"
20:51:47robertd1done
20:52:05pamaurythen "give" the device to virtualbox, and assuming it appears as /dev/sdx, run:
20:52:05pamaurysudo ./scsitool /dev/sdx get_dnk_nvp shp
20:52:34pamauryYou should get something like:
20:52:35pamauryNode:
20:52:35pamaury 03 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ................
20:52:35DBUGEnqueued KICK pamaury
20:52:35pamaury ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ................
20:52:49pamauryI am interesting only in the first 8 values (bytes)
20:53:10robertd1yes that it is correct 03 00 00 00 01 00 00 00
20:54:47pamaurycan you try two different devices with different destination?
20:55:15robertd1pamaury you mean in the fiio?
20:55:22robertd1hold on one sec please
20:55:25pamauryno I mean other nwz
20:55:43pamauryI remember you telling me that you had a nwz from the US
20:58:22robertd1no, lol my brother bought the same device in the us. I can ask him to try
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21:03:02pamauryrobertd1: do you know if there is any place in the interface where I can read the destination? I can try to write a tool to modify the destination, see if it makes a difference
21:03:58robertd1the only place is in the service menu
21:04:28pamauryis that the one you access with a magic key combination?
21:04:45robertd1yes that one
21:05:27pamauryok, I will give it a try
21:05:40robertd1in the page of the nwz i posted a link to the service manual
21:07:14robertd1page 14 setting the test mode
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21:12:27pamauryrobertd1: can't you use this to change the destination?
21:12:45robertd1not it is not possible to modify
21:13:44robertd1which model do you own pamaury
21:14:27pamauryNWZ-E463
21:14:33pamauryso mine says CEW [SPS: On]
21:14:41robertd1it is capped
21:15:17robertd1in page 6 of the manual explains the procedure of setting the dest
21:16:13cryhampamaury: this version works
21:16:19cryhamit's a bit strange
21:16:42pamaurycryham: ok, let me build the next one
21:16:47pamaurywhat is strange?
21:16:52cryhamsince this is latest right
21:17:02cryham20161028
21:17:24pamauryno that's the build date ;)
21:17:29cryhamah
21:23:07pamauryrobertd1: destination have weird names: u, u2, u3 and cew, cew2
21:23:12pamaurydo you know what the number means?
21:25:12robertd1in the manual u is the us, cew aep uk and the settings are eq none and sp output optimizer
21:26:18robertd1some people claim that changing the fm frequencies alters the destination. It wont stay after exiting test menu
21:26:43pamauryyeah but what is u compared to u2? They are both US
21:27:34robertd1i presume is the default setting for each mode settings with eq on and sp on
21:28:11pamaurywhat is sp?
21:29:14robertd1the limit of the sound *sound pressure regulation
21:30:25pamauryhum, from the code it is unclear if the sound pressure is related to destination or not, those might be independent
21:30:58pamaurycryham: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dlrs0clk1y22uf6/rockbox-c5933f4.zip?dl=0
21:30:59robertd1in our devices the sp is on and not optimized
21:33:25robertd1the level for EU is 25 in other models is 30
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21:36:06pamauryso from the code it seems that the first 4 bytes of shp give the destination. The destination is split into two: the lower bytes gives the general destination and the other byte is more specific, probably gives the default settings. For example U is 1 (ie 01 00 00 00) but U2 is 0x101 (ie 01 01 00 00), U3 is 0x201 and CA is 0x301 (so it's kind of U4 in fact)
21:37:12pamaurysimilarly, E is 6 but MX3 is 0x106 (which makes sense, Mexico is a variant of Spain)
21:38:32robertd1in the service manual it mentions even a tourist model which has more radio frequencies
21:38:44pamauryand the next 4 bytes control sound pressure: 0 is no limit, 1 is limit
21:39:00robertd1identified as E
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21:39:37pamaurywell shipment information has more bytes, they are all FF on mine but maybe they have some used in other countries
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21:42:26*pamaury writes a dest/sps changer tool
21:43:03robertd1that explains the different numbers the us has 4 settings
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21:44:26robertd1u,u2, u2 sp , and u sp
21:45:06pamauryyeah sp is independent of destination
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21:47:13robertd1pamaury sp in the us the level is 30, in the EU it is 25 . The manual expressly says that the destination and sound pressure are written in the nand flash
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21:51:17cryhampamaury: works
21:51:41pamaurycryham: ok building next one
21:52:59robertd1i do wonder if the new models are capped or give the user the choice of removing it
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21:58:03pamauryfrom the code it seems the cap still exists
21:58:27pamaurybut maybe there is an option for it, who knows
21:58:57pamaurycryham: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q4k9gc4c4a5jrvz/rockbox-6b9610f.zip?dl=0
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22:17:03cryhampamaury: works too
22:17:36pamaurycryham: ok, building next one
22:18:00cryhamnot sure how long should i test, but if it was broken like before it would freeze
22:18:13cryhamtried on and off 5 times at least
22:18:51robertd1 nvp wrldr
22:19:14pamauryok, well at least if we can narrow it down to a bunch of commits, that would be helpful
22:24:44pamaurycryham: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tuasj95cog5bsml/rockbox-2d850b7.zip?dl=0
22:27:54robertd1I havent notice that the update comes with its own scitool and parameters 0xfc 0 0x03 0x64 0x62 0x6d 0x6e 0 0 0 0 0
22:31:47pamauryI noticed that, it looks like a different scsi command, I guess to trigger the upgrade, but it doesn't match what I reversed engineered
22:33:01robertd1i had yet to find where the update checks the destination
22:35:06pamauryI doubt the upgrade script touches that, at least not in a script
22:37:20pamauryI am writing the destination changer tool
22:39:13robertd1that service menu must be the equivalent of the plattools
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22:40:26pamauryyeah more or less
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22:54:07cryhampamaury: works
22:54:34cryhamhow far is this since 2013
22:57:04pamaurycryham: ok, building. This one was around may 2016
22:57:32cryhamok
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22:58:51pamaurycryham: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kzz7i4wwbbs30dj/rockbox-e4af973.zip?dl=0
22:59:15pamaurybut bisecting is not linear in time. We had a many more commits recently that we had in 2015 for example, thus the big jump in time
22:59:46pamauryrobertd1: I have a tool that can display dest and sps
22:59:49pamaurynow to changing it...
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23:01:12robertd1that is incredible!
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23:18:10cryhampamaury: works too
23:18:52cryhami'm gonna go to bed now, i should be tomorrow around same time
23:19:34pamauryok good
23:19:37pamaurywe are getting closer!
23:22:32pamauryrobertd1: I have a working tool
23:22:34pamaurygoing to commit
23:23:02pamauryFor now the tool has a white list of devices, because some devices uses different NVP nodes, so I whitelisted my device and yours
23:23:47robertd1Great, Ill try it asap !
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23:30:02pamauryrobertd1: committed
23:30:55robertd1rebasing right now
23:31:36pamaurybuild as usual: make in plattools, and then
23:31:37pamaurymake exec_file ELF=../plattols/dest_tool.elf NWZ_TARGET=nwz-a86x UPG=dest_tool_a86x.upg
23:31:37pamauryand then copy and upgrade
23:37:46robertd1strange, one sec please
23:39:28robertd1not running hold on
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23:39:46fs-bluebot_Build Server message: 3Revision ad9a2d5 result: All green
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