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| 07:57:57 | duo8 | Apparently shanling m1 uses linux too |
| 07:58:20 | duo8 | this is like a trend now, even the jz4760b fiio x1 ii uses it |
| 07:58:46 | duo8 | pamaury if you have time can you check out the new shanling m1 fw format? |
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| 08:01:15 | duo8 | binwalk: https://my.mixtape.moe/jxjsve |
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| 09:08:41 | pamaury | duo8: indeed your binwalk suggest linux on a ubifs |
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| 15:04:22 | Bilgus | BATT_CHG_V BATT_CHG_I ..Is there a way to set these based on BATTERY_TYPES_COUNT? |
| 15:06:01 | pamaury | Bilgus: can you be more precise? Not sure what you mean/want to do |
| 15:06:53 | Bilgus | I'd like to enable a means to charge my battery V target to CHG_V_4_10V if lower capacity is selected and to CHG_V_4_20V if the higher is selected |
| 15:08:30 | Bilgus | same Idea with CHG_I_... but I'm not all that concerned with that one |
| 15:08:30 | pamaury | I see, this is not trivial given the way the current code works. But I think no one would object a setting for that, and the code could be changed accordingly. |
| 15:09:05 | pamaury | Can you program? I can hint you about things to change |
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| 15:09:49 | Bilgus | yes, The idea I had was to use the battery selection to choose different ascodec_write_charger(BATT_CHG_I | BATT_CHG_V); |
| 15:10:49 | Bilgus | I figured since the menu already had fuctionality for the battery selection maybe a means had already been worked out |
| 15:12:32 | pamaury | hum I see, thing is I don't really know how the battery selection works and what it does, I would need to have a look |
| 15:12:47 | pamaury | but it seems to me this would be more or a hack |
| 15:13:00 | pamaury | a proper setting sounds better |
| 15:13:58 | Bilgus | I'm open to input.. |
| 15:16:54 | pamaury | Well, let's assume there is only one battery for now. I would create a setting in apps/settings_list.c |
| 15:17:27 | pamaury | and apps/settings.c |
| 15:17:54 | pamaury | this setting would use a function to set the battery max voltage |
| 15:18:09 | * | pamaury looks at the code and sees a set_battery_capacity(), not sure what this does |
| 15:19:14 | pamaury | ah it's unrelated |
| 15:19:31 | Bilgus | sansaclipplus.h has target specific capacities defined |
| 15:20:02 | Bilgus | #define BATTERY_CAPACITY_DEFAULT 290 /* default battery capacity */ #define BATTERY_CAPACITY_MIN 260 /* min. capacity selectable */ #define BATTERY_CAPACITY_MAX 290 /* max. capacity selectable */ #define BATTERY_CAPACITY_INC 0 /* capacity increment */ #define BATTERY_TYPES_COUNT 1 /* only one type */ |
| 15:20:24 | Bilgus | that min is also 290 |
| 15:20:34 | pamaury | this is just for battery estimation |
| 15:21:07 | pamaury | some devices have swappable batteries, thus you cannot know the exact capacity. This setting was introduce so that the user can tell rockbox the capacity and rockbox compute a decent battery remaining time. |
| 15:21:19 | pamaury | You would need to create something new |
| 15:21:40 | Bilgus | ah ok I figured it was related to the battery cap setting in the menu and could be used for my purpose Got it |
| 15:21:53 | pamaury | I would introduce a new target define that says the target supports setting maximum charge voltage |
| 15:23:31 | Bilgus | ok I think we could use the defined charge target as the max I wouldn't want to enable people to define a higher target |
| 15:24:12 | pamaury | Bilgus: that would be a setting to choose between 4.1V and 4.2V |
| 15:24:12 | duo8 | so it is linux. it'd be cool if mine is also linux |
| 15:24:48 | duo8 | anw, pamaury does that mean rockbox can just run in userspace? |
| 15:24:49 | pamaury | Bilgus: that what you want in the end right? |
| 15:25:49 | pamaury | duo8: I guess, but it's not always the best approach. For example on JZ4760B we will have a natice port so it makes little sense to have userspace port for the same soc. |
| 15:25:50 | Bilgus | well the as3514 has lots of settings on charge voltage #define CHG_V (0x7 << 1) #define CHG_V_4_25V (0x7 << 1) #define CHG_V_4_20V (0x6 << 1) #define CHG_V_4_15V (0x5 << 1) #define CHG_V_4_10V (0x4 << 1) #define CHG_V_4_05V (0x3 << 1) #define CHG_V_4_00V (0x2 << 1) #define CHG_V_3_95V (0x1 << 1) #define CHG_V_3_90V (0x0 << 1) #define CHG_OFF (0x1 << 0) |
| 15:26:27 | pamaury | Bilgus: sure but not all of them really make sense. For Li-Ion i've only heard of charging to 4.1 and 4.2 |
| 15:27:19 | Bilgus | ok so narrow it to 4.1 4.15 4.2 |
| 15:27:19 | pamaury | duo8: the M1 uses a different soc I think (the X1000 ?), so then it depends on how similar it is to the jz4760b and whether it would be a separate port or not |
| 15:27:57 | pamaury | Bilgus: wait a minute, I will post a patch to gerrit with an example of how it would fit together |
| 15:28:14 | Bilgus | k. |
| 15:28:59 | duo8 | i wish the DAC feature works on mine, it just causes pulseaudio to hang |
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| 15:30:45 | pamaury | duo8: I *guess* you could look at pulseaudio's code (or alsa, not sure which one really is the source) and see if they have support for quirks. What is the problem exactly again? |
| 15:30:51 | pamaury | wodz: ping |
| 15:30:58 | wodz | pamaury: pong |
| 15:32:11 | pamaury | how are you? I have a question for you. Bilgus is looking to have setting to set maximum charge voltage (like 4.1 vs 4.2), do you have a suggestion on how to handle that? I am hesitating between a HAVE_MAX_CHARGE_VOLT define plus some MIN/MAX/INC define and a set_ |
| 15:32:13 | pamaury | function |
| 15:33:10 | pamaury | but I am not sure if it makes sense to be very generic since it's unlikely that there will be many other interesting voltages (ie it could be an 2 value switch) |
| 15:33:20 | wodz | pamaury: I caught a flu so I have a bit of time for rockbox :-) |
| 15:33:40 | wodz | pamaury: Basically there are only 4.1 or 4.2 batteries |
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| 15:34:28 | pamaury | wodz: what happens if you have a 4.1 battery to 4.2 or the opposite? |
| 15:34:43 | pamaury | (I mean if you set the target charge voltage) |
| 15:34:53 | pamaury | (cause you obviously can't charge a 4.1 battery to 4.2) |
| 15:35:36 | wodz | if you have 4.1 and you charge it like 4.2 it may explode but well engineered battery should pop a vent (samsung note batteries werent apperently) |
| 15:35:44 | Bilgus | but you can undercharge either for increased longevity and perhaps use BATT_CHG_V as the max?? |
| 15:36:04 | wodz | when you undercharge 4.2 battery nothing happens |
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| 15:36:36 | duo8 | (can anyone hear me now) |
| 15:36:43 | pamaury | duo8: yes |
| 15:37:04 | duo8 | i guess my last messages got sucked into the blackhole |
| 15:37:26 | duo8 | <duo8> i wish the DAC feature works on mine, it just causes pulseaudio to hang |
| 15:37:26 | duo8 | <duo8> pamaury how does rockbox dac mode work? |
| 15:37:42 | pamaury | duo8: it implements the usb audio class in software |
| 15:38:05 | duo8 | usb audio 1? |
| 15:38:08 | pamaury | duo8: can you recall me what the bug is in your dac's usb audio implementation that make pulseaudio hangs? |
| 15:38:12 | pamaury | yes version 1 |
| 15:38:28 | pamaury | wodz: is there any benefit to charge a 4.2 battery to 4.1 only for longevity? |
| 15:38:39 | duo8 | it _appears_ to be incorrect configuration |
| 15:38:57 | duo8 | PA isn't the only thing that can hang, got deadbeef hang once |
| 15:40:06 | duo8 | (same stacktrace in dmesg) |
| 15:40:30 | wodz | pamaury: 4.2 charged to 4.1 will provide more charge-discharge cycles thats all. What is more important most probably is the fact that you should not store battery fully charged and in this scenario you apperently will not ever |
| 15:40:35 | pamaury | duo8: did you identify what is incorrect? Can you send me the full lsusb output for the device? Maybe a quirk can be added to alsa |
| 15:41:09 | duo8 | others also say it does work an ehci controller, can't test that bc my laptop doesn't have one |
| 15:42:13 | duo8 | pamaury well i sent that to you some time back, got something else this time though |
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| 15:44:34 | Bilgus | based on some cursory research charging a 4.2 v to 4.1 v drops capacity ~14% and roughly double the charge cycles |
| 15:46:21 | Bilgus | http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries though this was the only place i found that spelled it out and I'm sure datasheet for the specific battery would be much more definitive |
| 15:47:17 | pamaury | well we can introduce a setting, as long as it is safe |
| 15:47:21 | wodz | Bilgus: AFAIK battery datasheets doesn't state this information. |
| 15:47:36 | pamaury | still not sure about a boolean setting (4.1V / 4.2V) or a range |
| 15:47:46 | wodz | blah my english isn't good today :/ |
| 15:47:50 | pamaury | I guess a range could a make sense to tweak it |
| 15:48:11 | Bilgus | the range would have to be spelled out for the specific charge controller |
| 15:49:10 | pamaury | yes, that's why I'm wondering, because that means more code |
| 15:49:32 | Bilgus | not sure if they all use a simple bit shift for the levels like the as3514 |
| 15:50:20 | pamaury | Bilgus: some target (many actually) cannot change the target voltage at all |
| 15:50:57 | wodz | Bilgus: It is guaranteed there is controller which uses weird pattern to set charge cutoff voltage, as well as there are fixed voltage versions |
| 15:51:00 | pamaury | and when they do, the specific increment might differ |
| 15:52:03 | Bilgus | CHG_V is only defined for the 3514 lol so I guess its a device specific implementation |
| 15:54:08 | duo8 | pamaury various output from /proc http://pastie.org/10952288 |
| 15:54:34 | duo8 | it works perfectly fine with those thesycon drivers on windows however |
| 15:54:41 | duo8 | apparently on osx as well |
| 15:55:34 | pamaury | duo8: might be a linux bug in usb audio 2.0 implementation |
| 15:56:04 | duo8 | there's also the thing that it works on ehci controllers |
| 15:56:33 | duo8 | while it does work with alsa it's far from bug free, on both devices |
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| 16:00:23 | wodz | pamaury: have you got my private msg? |
| 16:00:33 | pamaury | no |
| 16:00:42 | pamaury | wodz: ^ |
| 16:01:39 | duo8 | also deadbeef just hang: http://pastie.org/private/yzhxabtcjvsk4jpycf1ua |
| 16:01:53 | duo8 | call trace is similar to pulseaudio's |
| 16:02:16 | pamaury | duo8: I would suggest to contact kernel/alsa/usb linux developers |
| 16:02:36 | duo8 | yeah but i don't even know where the problem is |
| 16:03:20 | pamaury | duo8: that's why you need their help |
| 16:03:39 | duo8 | i'll do some more testing |
| 16:04:17 | pamaury | Bilgus: still writing the "patch" |
| 16:05:17 | Bilgus | np. |
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| 16:29:04 | pamaury | Bilgus: g#1412 |
| 16:29:05 | fs-bluebot_ | Gerrit review #1412 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1412 : WIP: Implement final charge voltage selection, enable it on ascodec basec chargers. by Amaury Pouly |
| 16:29:19 | pamaury | this is the general principle, I didn't try it |
| 16:29:45 | pamaury | I didn't implement the change itself, you'll need to have a look at how the charger code works |
| 16:29:59 | pamaury | and obviously be safe, don't write crazy values and make you battery explode |
| 16:56:54 | Bilgus | ok so the only question is who would call set_battery_final_voltage? |
| 16:57:28 | pamaury | Bilgus: the settings do |
| 16:57:41 | pamaury | looks at settings_list.c |
| 16:58:17 | pamaury | I haven't tried on target but you can easily check that it works by using logf() |
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| 17:01:42 | Bilgus | pamaury: currently charger_control(void) calls > enable_charger(void) { ascodec_write_charger(BATT_CHG_I | BATT_CHG_V); |
| 17:03:10 | pamaury | Bilgus: maybe introduce a global variable: |
| 17:03:10 | pamaury | int chg_v = BATT_CHG_V; /* charge current */ |
| 17:03:26 | pamaury | then change that line to |
| 17:03:26 | pamaury | ascodec_write_charger(BATT_CHG_I | chg_v); |
| 17:03:46 | pamaury | and in set_battery_final_voltage, compute the new value for chg_v and change voltage |
| 17:03:50 | pamaury | just a thought |
| 17:09:33 | Bilgus | so I suppose I could use a table of values from 3900 ~ 4200mv to correspond to the defined values CHG_V_3_90V ~ CHG_V_4_20V Ill have to mull on this awhile to keep it from becoming a clusterf. |
| 17:10:43 | pamaury | Bilgus: yeah |
| 17:11:27 | pamaury | Also I suggest you debug the code carefully: you first version should not write the target voltahe but rather print the value of chg_v to logf, just to be sure |
| 17:11:45 | pamaury | since the charge can be set to high value than 4.2V, you don't want to do that ;) |
| 17:12:19 | pamaury | also make sure the setting is correctly restore on power off/on, I think that's what the code in settings.c is supposed to do |
| 17:15:15 | Bilgus | thanks for the pointers and template Ill be back when I have some questions / working patch |
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| 19:07:03 | cryham | pamaury: hi, so i tested the last build we tried in my kitchen today and damn, it freezes |
| 19:07:15 | cryham | i guess some earlier could too, i' |
| 19:07:25 | cryham | i'll test that more sometime |
| 19:07:39 | pamaury | cryham: ok, wait a minute |
| 19:07:49 | cryham | and tell which exactly from the previous builds |
| 19:08:03 | pamaury | ok, so you want to retest all previous builds? |
| 19:08:20 | cryham | strange, it worked perfectly before but next day didn't |
| 19:08:46 | cryham | i'll do it, but now i'm a bit busy irl |
| 19:09:04 | cryham | i'll tell when i know something more |
| 19:09:28 | cryham | seems sometimes it looses history about resuming playback |
| 19:09:53 | cryham | i.e. if it freezes (and usually just after 5-10sec) then it won't remember it was playing |
| 19:10:08 | cryham | but this happens now, i think it didn't yearlier |
| 19:11:22 | cryham | idk why it worked and now it's back to failing |
| 19:11:34 | pamaury | cryham: if it freezes, it cannot write its state to the disk |
| 19:11:35 | cryham | it's like it needs to warm up or sth |
| 19:11:40 | cryham | ah ok |
| 19:11:54 | cryham | i was testing without headphones |
| 19:12:01 | pamaury | well random bugs are sometimes hard to catch |
| 19:12:20 | cryham | but my kitchen setup just uses output as cd input, volume is quite high bbut won't use much power |
| 19:12:25 | cryham | yeah exactly |
| 19:18:49 | pamaury | well if you notice any particular circumstances that seem to trigger the bug that's helpful, although my guess is that the bug is random, some revision might exhibit it more maybe |
| 19:18:49 | pamaury | does it happen with any type of files? |
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| 19:33:56 | cryham | i think with any |
| 19:34:21 | cryham | i didn't yet discover when it happens and when not |
| 19:34:51 | cryham | or seems that when it fails it will fail later too, not sure |
| 19:35:56 | cryham | but definitely 2013 worked without issues and recently used it also without issues |
| 19:36:39 | cryham | you guys don't have dynamic memory right, i was reading something, that all is static |
| 19:37:01 | cryham | a buffer overrun could cause this behaviour though right? |
| 19:37:49 | cryham | did any decoders for audio even change since 2013 |
| 19:38:05 | pamaury | we have some form of dynamic memory |
| 19:38:10 | cryham | ah |
| 19:38:29 | pamaury | but it's limited, because most targets don't have a mmu |
| 19:38:44 | pamaury | anyway, a lot of things changed since 2013 |
| 19:38:51 | cryham | ok |
| 19:39:09 | pamaury | it looks like it might be specific to the soc (imx233) and not a general but who knows |
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| 19:42:26 | cryham | is it possible that i have some fault in my device or its memory |
| 19:42:39 | cryham | or just nobody had this issue |
| 19:42:55 | cryham | or nobody yet reported since so long |
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| 19:43:42 | cryham | i only change 2 settings after unpacking, clear backdrop and later the playing screen to failsafe (has vu meters) |
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| 19:44:35 | cryham | but hmm when it was failing it did also on defaults |
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| 19:47:07 | pamaury | cryham: it's not impossible but then I would expect the OF to fail as well |
| 19:47:12 | duo8 | reminds me of dslinux |
| 19:47:21 | duo8 | (the ds doesn't have a mmu) |
| 19:47:43 | pamaury | cryham: have you tried without the vu meter by any chance? |
| 19:47:52 | pamaury | (ie don't change any settings) |
| 19:48:35 | cryham | i did, when it was failing then on defaults too |
| 19:49:01 | cryham | idk if it can change over a longer period of inactivity |
| 19:49:17 | cryham | like it did since yesterday being all ok to freezing today |
| 19:50:28 | pamaury | cryham: does it freeze completely (ie really no response, audio stops, etc) or only stuck (UI is frozen but device keeps working, backlight still go on and off) |
| 19:51:07 | cryham | the backlight works |
| 19:51:39 | cryham | i.e if it display went off i can get it back to show stuff with any key |
| 19:51:46 | cryham | but nothing else works then |
| 19:51:52 | cryham | only power off |
| 19:52:25 | cryham | it looks like just pause, ie. track progress freezes in last place and vu meter goes to 0 (no signal) |
| 19:52:26 | pamaury | hum, interesting |
| 19:52:57 | pamaury | that means there is a another possibility to track the bug |
| 19:53:17 | pamaury | I need to work on it, I'll provide you with a special build later |
| 19:53:33 | cryham | ok cool |
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| 20:44:55 | duo8 | is there a linux port for the jz4760? |
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| 20:55:29 | Demasis_ | I need help with an Ipod classic. I'm using the dual boot loader option at free my ipod. And the install is getting stopped after the DFU transfer, it wont restart. I loaded the Rockbox utility with administrative permission, I also completely uninstalled everything apple related and reinstalled apple. I factory reset the ipod and updated it to the latest version. |
| 20:55:36 | Demasis_ | I've been through every possible route, the only thing I can't figure out is how it wants me to possibly install WINusb drivers. |
| 20:55:44 | Demasis_ | Win 7 64bit Intel i3 |
| 20:55:51 | Demasis_ | The ipod is A1238 model |
| 20:56:01 | Demasis_ | possibly refurbished, I got it on ebay, it's an 80gb model. |
| 20:56:11 | Demasis_ | I have a previous 80gb classic I installed with Rockbox, but it's not a dual boot and I did it like 3 years ago with a more complicated process. |
| 20:58:38 | Demasis_ | I've gone through 5 cans of Pringles trying to figure this out guys... |
| 20:59:37 | pamaury | duo8: you mean a version of linux running on the jz4760b? |
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| 21:00:27 | wodz | duo8: yes there is. You can download sources from ingenic gerrit |
| 21:01:08 | pamaury | Demasis_: you'll need to wait for someone who knows apples |
| 21:01:36 | pamaury | wodz: does ingenic have a gerrit? I tought they only had their crappy ftp |
| 21:02:18 | Demasis_ | Pretty much, I don't even know how to open the internet on a Mac, If anyone knows an alternative route without the dual boot feature. I'll use that too. |
| 21:02:21 | wodz | pamaury: I thought that too until today |
| 21:02:32 | pamaury | wodz: oh, is this a public gerrit? |
| 21:03:07 | wodz | http://www.ingenic.com/en/?product/id/9/lm/2.html |
| 21:03:59 | wodz | the tool repo as far as I understand simply walks through dozen or so modules and does pull |
| 21:04:00 | pamaury | does it work? last time I tried it didn't work |
| 21:04:24 | wodz | pamaury: I grabbed this today. Took a few hours of download |
| 21:05:25 | pamaury | ouch, it's horribly slow!! |
| 21:05:42 | wodz | all is about 3GB |
| 21:06:26 | wodz | you could skip toolchain module which is 1.7GB but I didn't dig deep enough in this weird tool to do this |
| 21:06:43 | pamaury | some repo fail like burnertools |
| 21:07:47 | wodz | I have it here |
| 21:08:25 | pamaury | does this thing contains any documentation of the X1000? Except headers I mean |
| 21:09:00 | wodz | no as far as I can tell |
| 21:10:17 | prof_wolfff | Demasis_: what is exactly the problem?, i see at #freemyipod-support that the bootloader is installed and you can enter Apple diskmode but you get "Download error: received HTTP error 0." when you try to install RB using RockboxUtility, right? |
| 21:11:03 | Demasis_ | It wont boot up DFU transfer |
| 21:11:08 | Demasis_ | after the* |
| 21:12:12 | Demasis_ | Even when I hold the select+menu button to restart as prompted it will not boot up rockbox. |
| 21:13:33 | prof_wolfff | what do you seen on the screen of the ipod? |
| 21:14:10 | Demasis_ | I'll attempt again and type out what I see, give me a moment. |
| 21:17:17 | Demasis_ | Rockbox boot loader \ Verison: b99e921-160707 \ Batter is Okay 4000mv \ Loading rockbox \ Error! \ Can't load rockbox.ipod: \ File not found \ Entering USB mode \ Bootloader USB mode | |
| 21:19:36 | prof_wolfff | the bootloader is installed, but you need to install RB, launch RockboxUtility and install RB and the Fonts and Games if you want (but not the bootloader) |
| 21:20:11 | Demasis_ | When I hold select+menu for 5 seconds it will go right back to the same screen. No progress is made in the install process unless I boot it into the Apple software, that allows the Installer to say it has completed the boot loader and log created process. |
| 21:21:32 | prof_wolfff | you dont need to press any buttons, just let the iPod in booloader USB mode and connect it to the computer, it should be recognized by RockboxUtility, then install RB |
| 21:22:30 | Demasis_ | I had waited longer than 20 minutes on that screen, and the RB install advised me to hold select+menu to restart it. |
| 21:23:28 | Demasis_ | Do you know where I might be able to get WinUsb updates and try again? |
| 21:23:45 | Demasis_ | Maybe I'm lacking proper drivers. |
| 21:24:51 | prof_wolfff | there is no problem with the drivers, the booloader is installed ok, you must install RB, is the iPod detected by RockboxUtility? |
| 21:25:49 | Demasis_ | Yeah, should I use a different version of BR Utility, I keep getting an http error 0. |
| 21:28:27 | prof_wolfff | a few days ago there was problems downloading with RockboxUtility, but ATM don't know if these problems presists |
| 21:29:41 | gevaerts | Mo, that should be fixed |
| 21:29:50 | Demasis_ | The current version is giving me a Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library problem |
| 21:30:48 | gevaerts | Can you provide a system trace from rockbox utility after trying? |
| 21:31:04 | gevaerts | (from the help->troubleshoot menu) |
| 21:31:32 | Demasis_ | Whenever I press the "install" button on the RB Utility v1.4.0 I get an error message. |
| 21:31:39 | prof_wolfff | you can find here hoy to try to solve that issue: https://files.freemyipod.org/~user890104/bootloader-ipodclassic-v8-designware/README.RockboxUtility.txt |
| 21:31:50 | Demasis_ | How do I capture a system trace? |
| 21:32:10 | gevaerts | from the help->troubleshoot menu |
| 21:32:20 | prof_wolfff | many times you can solve it cleaning the cache |
| 21:37:44 | Demasis_ | Yeah, I just did that from the link you sent me. I was trying to find a damn cache file but didn't know what it was called yesterday. Thank you so much! |
| 21:39:47 | Demasis_ | It's downloading at the moment. Clearing the Cache fixed the runtime error. |
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| 21:46:02 | prof_wolfff | i got that problem when mixing the official and the patched version of RockboxUtility, but not only a problem of the patched versions, the official versions was failing in the same way |
| 21:47:48 | Demasis_ | Does downloading the rockbox-ipod6g.zip typically last more than 15 minutes? |
| 21:48:37 | prof_wolfff | usually you get all installed in less then one minute |
| 21:48:39 | wodz | its a few MB big, depends on connection |
| 21:50:44 | Demasis_ | It must not be working then. lol |
| 21:51:03 | Demasis_ | I'm still getting the HTTP error 0 |
| 21:51:12 | Demasis_ | Are the Rockbox servers working? |
| 21:52:37 | * | gevaerts really wouldn't mind seeing that system trace |
| 21:59:49 | Demasis_ | you want me to put it all in chat? |
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| 22:00:03 | gevaerts | no, on a pastebin |
| 22:00:13 | Demasis_ | how? |
| 22:00:21 | Demasis_ | i have a notepad file |
| 22:01:40 | __builtin | copy+paste |
| 22:02:20 | Demasis_ | The whole damn thing? It's more lines than the Havamal... |
| 22:02:26 | __builtin | ctrl+a |
| 22:02:29 | __builtin | ctrl+c |
| 22:02:31 | __builtin | ctrl+v |
| 22:02:42 | Demasis_ | [rbutil\rbutilqt\main.cpp:45 INFO] Starting trace at "2016-10-29T14:36:18" [rbutil\rbutilqt\rbutilqt.cpp:71 INFO] ====================================== [rbutil\rbutilqt\rbutilqt.cpp:72 INFO] Rockbox Utility 1.4.0 [rbutil\rbutilqt\rbutilqt.cpp:73 INFO] Qt version: 4.8.5 [rbutil\rbutilqt\rbutilqt.cpp:74 INFO] ====================================== [rbutil\rbutilqt\base\rbsettings.cpp:106 INFO] configuration: system [rbutil\rbu |
| 22:02:52 | __builtin | on http://pastebin.com |
| 22:02:57 | __builtin | then give us the URL |
| 22:04:20 | Demasis_ | http://pastebin.com/0HcGWWQQ |
| 22:04:29 | Demasis_ | I've never done that before. lol nice |
| 22:04:55 | gevaerts | ok |
| 22:05:21 | gevaerts | So that *is* still a result of the https stuff |
| 22:06:01 | gevaerts | bluebrother^: that one illustrates the issue |
| 22:06:26 | Demasis_ | the server having problems guys? |
| 22:06:39 | gevaerts | Yes and no |
| 22:07:12 | gevaerts | We activated https for much of rockbox.org a few days ago, and rockbox utility apparently doesn't handle it in all cases |
| 22:07:52 | gevaerts | You should be able to do a manual install, it's really just an issue with rockbox utility |
| 22:08:19 | gevaerts | We'll probably work around it by rolling back some of the https stuff, but the people who can do that need to respond first :) |
| 22:09:04 | bluebrother^ | are these issues occuring on Windows only? |
| 22:09:31 | bluebrother^ | or, do we have reports on non-Windows? |
| 22:09:53 | gevaerts | bluebrother^: when I looked at it a few days ago, that was on linux |
| 22:09:55 | Demasis_ | how do I do a manual install with the ipod classic 6g? |
| 22:10:02 | __builtin | ooh nice, finely some shiny SSL on rockbox.org :D |
| 22:10:07 | bluebrother^ | gevaerts: and that had issues as well? |
| 22:10:15 | gevaerts | yes |
| 22:10:27 | bluebrother^ | hmm. |
| 22:10:51 | bluebrother^ | the only reason I can think about right now is that this is related to the static binary we provide. Did you use that or build yourself? |
| 22:10:53 | * | gevaerts sees it right now |
| 22:11:05 | gevaerts | I'm using the downloaded static binary |
| 22:12:54 | Demasis_ | can anyone help me or direct me to where I can do a manual install? |
| 22:13:16 | bluebrother^ | I don't get redirects right now :o |
| 22:13:49 | gevaerts | bluebrother^: you won't get redirects for download.r.o, but builds.rockbox.org still gives them |
| 22:13:59 | gevaerts | So you need to get a dev build |
| 22:14:45 | Demasis_ | I'm at a loss... I don't know wher to start |
| 22:15:35 | prof_wolfff | Demasis_: download the latest build from https://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipod6g , copy it to the root folder of your iPod and decompress it, then restart the iPod |
| 22:15:54 | bluebrother^ | Demasis_: does that version work for you? https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8pPsvGJ3RdKfnhyTDAwTWstMlhNR3NDanZURHFzOEI4ZHhoQUJ5OXUzN1NDRlp0U0hZNzQ |
| 22:17:30 | bluebrother^ | that uses a different Qt setup ... |
| 22:21:27 | gevaerts | bluebrother^: a fresh build works for me |
| 22:21:48 | bluebrother^ | ok, so that sounds like it's really related to the static build |
| 22:22:39 | bluebrother^ | I'm trying to check the Windows build VM but I need to get that up again first |
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| 22:28:12 | gevaerts | bluebrother^: is there a way to use an external rbutil.ini file? |
| 22:29:09 | bluebrother^ | gevaerts: no |
| 22:29:56 | Demasis_ | I'm working on it as we speak |
| 22:32:55 | Demasis_ | Cool, it's working! :) |
| 22:33:03 | Demasis_ | You guys are brilliant as always! |
| 22:33:13 | Demasis_ | And I learned about pastebin! |
| 22:33:40 | Demasis_ | So I'm guessing I was having serve issues. It's cool you knew how to resolve it! |
| 22:33:59 | bluebrother^ | Demasis_: so you used Rockbox Utility from the link I posted or did you manually install? |
| 22:34:15 | Demasis_ | I used the link |
| 22:34:16 | Demasis_ | https://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipod6g |
| 22:34:25 | Demasis_ | and put it in the root directory. |
| 22:34:34 | Demasis_ | As soon as I did it, it booted up |
| 22:34:39 | bluebrother^ | ok, so not the Google Drive link to a different version of Rockbox Utility. |
| 22:35:02 | Demasis_ | Works perfectly, I'm using the RB utility to install themes |
| 22:35:23 | Demasis_ | i DIDN'T USE THE GOOGLE DRIVE LINK, NO. |
| 22:35:28 | Demasis_ | Whoops |
| 22:35:30 | bluebrother^ | ok |
| 22:36:04 | Demasis_ | Thank you for getting it! But I think the main issue was getting the filed downloaded over the utility. |
| 22:38:30 | prof_wolfff | Demasis_: you can still try the google driver link to reinstall RB, there is not problem on reinstalling it, and nothing is going to broke if it doesn't work |
| 22:39:13 | bluebrother^ | gevaerts: I'm not completely confident about this yet but I'm starting to believe that the static build of Qt actually has ssl disabled |
| 22:39:27 | bluebrother^ | which would explain the behaviour |
| 22:39:46 | gevaerts | That would explain it, yes |
| 22:40:02 | gevaerts | It would also make it easy to be sure you're reproducing things properly :) |
| 22:40:03 | Demasis_ | I might actually use the google one with my other ipod 80gb 6g. |
| 22:40:14 | Demasis_ | It's running an extremely outdated version of rockbox. |
| 22:40:23 | Demasis_ | frol like 3 years ago or more |
| 22:45:37 | bluebrother^ | oh noes! |
| 22:45:41 | bluebrother^ | :) |
| 22:45:45 | Demasis_ | lol |
| 22:46:20 | Demasis_ | Anyone heard of the Meizu Pro 5 with Ubuntu pre loaded on it? |
| 22:58:14 | bluebrother^ | ok, I can reproduce the issue with my test program using the Qt installation I used for building Rockbox Utility |
| 22:58:50 | bluebrother^ | and it works ok with the version at the Google Drive link I posted earlier, which is a completely different Qt intsallation |
| 22:59:02 | bluebrother^ | so I guess it's safe to say this is caused by the Qt installation. |
| 22:59:29 | Demasis_ | Makes sense |
| 22:59:38 | bluebrother^ | so guys, please try the version at the Google Drive link. I'd like to have confirmation that it's not only working for me ;-) |
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| 23:00:12 | bluebrother^ | then I need to rebuild Qt and create a new release of Rockbox Utility. But that won't happen today anymore. It's already somewhat late for me :) |
| 23:01:10 | gevaerts | bluebrother^: so we should probably ask zagor to roll back build.r.o for now? |
| 23:01:22 | gevaerts | That way there's no rush |
| 23:01:31 | bluebrother^ | I'd like to get that done asap |
| 23:01:54 | Demasis_ | I |
| 23:01:59 | bluebrother^ | then we'll also have 1.4.1 including the fix for this annoying autodetection bug, and I could also switch everything to ssl at the same time |
| 23:02:07 | Demasis_ | I'll try te dual boot install for my older ipod 80gb |
| 23:05:59 | Demasis_ | bluebrother: How woukld I go about getting apples Itunes installed on my ipod again after an older build was put on it? |
| 23:07:25 | bluebrother^ | huh? Itunes runs on your PC, not the Ipod |
| 23:07:53 | Demasis_ | the ipod classic original software. |
| 23:08:10 | Demasis_ | I had to completely remove it and use emCORE |
| 23:08:17 | Demasis_ | this was a long time ago |
| 23:09:33 | bluebrother^ | I have no idea about the Ipod 6G |
| 23:09:39 | prof_wolfff | Demasis_: prior to install the bootloader on the other iPod you must use iTunes to restore the iPod, this will format your HDD so backup your data first |
| 23:09:47 | bluebrother^ | never used it, never had one, never installed one |
| 23:11:50 | bluebrother^ | gevaerts: we can point people to the Google Drive link I posted above, that should do it. I'd like to find some time working on the Qt issue tomorrow so we get that done soonish. |
| 23:12:21 | * | gevaerts nods |
| 23:12:27 | Demasis_ | I'm trying to format the ipod, remove everything and reinstall the apple software on it. |
| 23:12:50 | Demasis_ | then I can have a frest Test subject for the google drive link. |
| 23:12:56 | Demasis_ | fresh* |
| 23:13:26 | Demasis_ | Currently this 3 year old version is using emcore and does not have any apple software on it. |
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