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| 00:09:49 | ulmutul | [Saint]: (re: mouse pointer for ballerburg) This solution is so bluntly obvious, that I completely overlooked it :D |
| 00:10:42 | * | ulmutul thought of red blinking rectangles as cursor, that can be switched between the cannons |
| 00:12:35 | ulmutul | However the mouse emulation may be annoying, if you have to go over distances on the screen frequently. |
| 00:12:57 | __builtin | quadratic movement over time |
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| 00:13:12 | __builtin | first second: 10 pixels/second |
| 00:13:19 | __builtin | second second: 20 pixels/second |
| 00:13:23 | __builtin | etc. |
| 00:14:09 | ulmutul | ...and then you have to go back, because it's so fast that you miss your target :P |
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| 04:57:59 | Bilgus | Built_in looks to me like you use set_viewport to load your struct into the parent of the list ... see test_viewports.c and line 114 of list.c |
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| 05:09:23 | __builtin | looks like I have a stack overflow of some sort |
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| 06:37:25 | [Saint] | The good news is you can probably post about your stack overflow on stack overflow so that the people on stack overflow can help you fix your stack overflow. |
| 06:37:28 | [Saint] | ...stack overflow. |
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| 10:15:03 | TorC | Bilgus: I haven't gotten much time to test, but I realize there seems to be one very minor bug in sel BL/SL. |
| 10:22:15 | TorC | When setting the actions, after confirming save, it returns correctly to the menu, but my status bar at the top of the screen disappears until either a new menu level demands screen redraw, or something changes in the status bar to redraw it. |
| 10:22:47 | TorC | Maybe you already fixed this, and I'm running an old version. |
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| 11:40:29 | dima_ | hey guys, i have a little problem. i think something might be wrong with my charging port on both my ipod 5.5gs, and i cannot get any pc to recognize that its plugged in (it chirps, but it doesnt show up in drives, and after 30 seconds it disconnects, and then itunes tells me it discovered it.) |
| 11:41:08 | dima_ | so i was wondering, is there a way to install rockbox software on an empty CF card through an adapter to my pc, and then mount the CF card in my ipod? |
| 11:44:07 | wodz | dima_: Ask [Saint] - he will know |
| 11:44:56 | dima_ | thanks, ill try that |
| 11:46:17 | gevaerts | On PP ipods that's possible, yes |
| 11:46:43 | gevaerts | Well, I'm not sure how hard our tools try to prevent you doing that, actually :) |
| 11:47:15 | dima_ | what's a PP ipod |
| 11:47:33 | dima_ | sorry, i'm pretty new to all of this. this would be my second attempt to even use an ipod. |
| 11:47:43 | gevaerts | One with a PortalPlayer chip in it, which means up to 5.5G, nano 1G, or the minis |
| 11:48:06 | gevaerts | Maybe it's also possible on the later ones, but I don't know those very well |
| 11:48:20 | dima_ | i have two 5.5g ipods |
| 11:48:56 | dima_ | is that a chip i have to buy and solder on? |
| 11:49:00 | gevaerts | No |
| 11:49:23 | gevaerts | It's basically the CPU the ipod is designed around |
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| 11:51:35 | dima_ | ah. mine says PP3021C-TDF |
| 11:51:42 | dima_ | so im assuming thats it then |
| 11:52:19 | gevaerts | Hmm, no. That's a coincidence :) |
| 11:53:11 | dima_ | which one's the CPU then? i really should know this, we're learning about them in my electrical engineering class now :/ |
| 11:53:31 | gevaerts | Or maybe it is? |
| 11:53:33 | * | gevaerts isn't sure! |
| 11:53:41 | gevaerts | Ipods (well, the ones I know/care about) come in three main generations hardware-wise. There's the 1g to 3g that have a PortalPlayer 5002 chip in them, there's the minis, the nano1g, and te 4G (all variants) to 5.5G that have a PP5020 or PP5022 in them, and the classic and nano2g and up that have a Samsung S5Lsomething in them |
| 11:54:10 | dima_ | well, i'm pretty sure that they are 5.5gs so we're good there |
| 11:54:19 | gevaerts | Actually, maybe? Are you sure about the 3? If it says PP5021 that makes perfect sense |
| 11:54:21 | dima_ | they all had the search feature when the hard drives still worked |
| 11:54:59 | dima_ | 5021c my bad |
| 11:55:05 | gevaerts | I forgot the 21. The actual variants I'm aware of there are 5020, 5021, 5022 and 5024 |
| 11:55:08 | dima_ | hard to tell, its a little scratched up |
| 11:55:10 | gevaerts | They're all very similar |
| 11:55:29 | gevaerts | Anyway... |
| 11:57:43 | dima_ | so i've got it hooked up to a 2000 mah battery and using a tarkan adapter. it worked before when i had the hard drives but something failed on both of them at the same time. might have been a surge, the usb cable i had at the time was ancient and the wall connector was one of them 5 volt ipad ones. it sparked a bit and smelled burning, but was fine after a while |
| 11:58:08 | gevaerts | You'd have to start by following https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodManualRestore to get the CF card in a "normal" state, then I suspect you have to do a manual installation (i.e. using ipodpatcher, not using rockbox utility) due to it not being in an actual ipod |
| 11:58:55 | dima_ | guess ill have to figure out how to install linux then |
| 11:59:56 | gevaerts | All of that should work from a live CD as well, possibly in a VM |
| 11:59:56 | dima_ | how do i tell what my byte sectors are? |
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| 12:00:13 | dima_ | i have a vm software with xp on it, actually |
| 12:00:15 | gevaerts | Go for 512 |
| 12:00:16 | dima_ | ill try that |
| 12:00:33 | dima_ | any distribution you recommend? |
| 12:00:53 | dima_ | i've only had a chance to run a few commands on some obscure unix server at school, and mint from a live usb |
| 12:00:57 | gevaerts | 2048 is really only actually needed on the original 80GB drive (because it has firmware bugs that prevent 512 byte sectors from working) |
| 12:01:16 | dima_ | i see. well, this is a 32gb CF card so ill go with the 512 |
| 12:01:46 | gevaerts | If you've used mint before, there's no reason to change for this |
| 12:02:10 | dima_ | great, ill boot it up now |
| 12:02:17 | gevaerts | You need dd and maybe fdisk. Every linux system will have those |
| 12:08:23 | dima_ | hmm. its telling me this kernel requires x86-64 cpu but detected i686 |
| 12:09:07 | dima_ | i know my cpu is a 64 though |
| 12:14:34 | dima_ | using the 32 bit, and it's telling me requires the following features not present on the cpu: pae |
| 12:15:28 | dima_ | really weird, seeing as it worked before on the same pc |
| 12:16:22 | dima_ | well, ill try some other distributions and let you know |
| 12:16:49 | [Saint] | Wait...just so I'm clear, not reading this wall of text: |
| 12:17:02 | [Saint] | If you don't have our bootloader, its not happening. |
| 12:17:06 | [Saint] | Do you? |
| 12:17:30 | [Saint] | You can put the FW on the storage any which way you want. |
| 12:17:36 | [Saint] | Useless if you can boot it. |
| 12:18:15 | dima_ | i'm not sure i follow. |
| 12:18:27 | gevaerts | dima_: don't worry, I'm not sure [Saint] follows :) |
| 12:18:36 | gevaerts | [Saint]: the bootloader sits on the disk |
| 12:18:49 | dima_ | is the bootloader some software i need to download? |
| 12:19:01 | dima_ | the CF card is completely empty and freshly formatted |
| 12:19:23 | [Saint] | gevaerts: eh...kinda. |
| 12:19:33 | [Saint] | This is a 7g, no? |
| 12:19:35 | gevaerts | No |
| 12:19:37 | dima_ | 5.5g |
| 12:20:06 | [Saint] | Ah. |
| 12:20:23 | gevaerts | dima_: the bootloader is installed by either ipodpatcher or rockbox utility. You don't have to download it separately |
| 12:20:37 | dima_ | i see |
| 12:20:53 | dima_ | im trying mint maya now. i think i remember using it a few years back |
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| 12:22:02 | dima_ | looks promising |
| 12:22:47 | dima_ | alright im in |
| 12:23:52 | dima_ | switching to the other window |
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| 12:25:13 | dima_ | don't think this vmware is actually reading my usb |
| 12:26:47 | dima_ | sorry, you'll have to bear with me here |
| 12:26:53 | dima_ | how do i actually find the drives |
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| 12:29:24 | dima__ | i believe ive crashed my linux |
| 12:33:15 | dima__ | yeah its not letting me open virtualbox anymore. failed to open session rpc_s_server_unavailible 0x800706ba. cant even interact with the error window or close it without task manager |
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| 12:33:47 | dima__ | oh, thats me |
| 12:34:01 | dima__ | i may have fixed it |
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| 12:36:35 | dima__ | there we go. i can view the drive in mint |
| 12:36:37 | dima__ | what a journey |
| 12:38:03 | dima__ | so i just type this inter kernel right dd if=mbr-xxxx.bin of=/dev/sdX |
| 12:38:58 | [Saint] | Id you're aware the xxxx and X there are placeholders. Yes. |
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| 12:39:09 | [Saint] | *If |
| 12:39:11 | dima__ | of course |
| 12:39:35 | [Saint] | Well, I needed to clarify. You did say type into kernel. |
| 12:39:42 | [Saint] | Stranger things have happened. |
| 12:39:54 | dima__ | i meant konsole |
| 12:40:20 | dima__ | sorry, i just tried to hack my DS, so the terminology got mixed up |
| 12:42:27 | dima__ | actually, i'm not sure what goes for that second X |
| 12:42:39 | dima__ | i assume its the drive letter but im not sure what linux assigned it to |
| 12:44:21 | dima__ | [Saint]: |
| 12:46:12 | [Saint] | 'mount' will tell you. |
| 12:47:34 | dima__ | /dev/sdbl on /media/TRANSCEND |
| 12:47:38 | dima__ | so sdbl? |
| 12:50:29 | dima__ | no such file or directory |
| 12:51:58 | dima__ | going to try /media/sdbl |
| 12:52:13 | dima__ | same thing |
| 12:52:41 | dima__ | actually, i might have to move terminal to that location first. lets see if i remember the commands.... |
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| 12:54:46 | dima__ | permission denied |
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| 12:57:30 | dima__ | oh, i might have done it |
| 12:57:49 | dima__ | [Saint]: dd: opening '/media/TRANSCEND/': Is a directory |
| 12:58:03 | dima__ | cant tell if thats an error code or a success |
| 12:59:30 | [Saint] | You really don't want to be doing this with dd unless you're confident. Failing to be root may have just saved your ass. |
| 12:59:39 | [Saint] | You're potentially a lucky boy. |
| 12:59:45 | [Saint] | Or girl. Whatevs. |
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| 13:00:00 | [Saint] | You need to be root for this. That's why permissions bounced. |
| 13:00:19 | [Saint] | You need to be ABSOLUTELY sure what disk you're dealing with. |
| 13:00:42 | dima__ | well, it's in a virtual environment |
| 13:00:44 | [Saint] | No one will help you stitch your PC that fails to boot if you fuck up back together. |
| 13:01:25 | dima__ | i'm running windows 7 with virtualbox, and running linux mint 13 and doing the commands there |
| 13:01:45 | dima__ | afaik i cant access windows 7 through mint, but i could be wrong |
| 13:01:55 | dima__ | worse case i will just delete the vm and re install it |
| 13:02:56 | dima__ | but here's a screenshot just to be sure http://imgur.com/a/vN4dX |
| 13:09:06 | dima__ | [Saint]: |
| 13:15:03 | [Saint] | Yes. That's the one. But you don't want sdb1, you want sdb. |
| 13:15:21 | dima__ | ok |
| 13:15:43 | dima__ | still permission denied |
| 13:15:54 | [Saint] | You also need to elevate permission as discussed above. |
| 13:16:20 | dima__ | there's a $ there |
| 13:16:46 | dima__ | mint@mint /media/TRANSCENT $ and then i can type |
| 13:17:05 | [Saint] | Yes. Which means you're just a normal old Joe User. |
| 13:17:26 | dima__ | oh, its su isnt it |
| 13:17:34 | dima__ | sorry, its been a while |
| 13:17:41 | [Saint] | You need to use sudo or work as root. |
| 13:17:44 | [Saint] | $ is just a part of a standard prompt. |
| 13:18:34 | dima__ | alright i got it |
| 13:18:37 | dima__ | heres what it says |
| 13:18:51 | dima__ | 1+0 records in |
| 13:18:55 | dima__ | 1+0 records out |
| 13:19:15 | dima__ | 512 bytes (512B) copied and some time info |
| 13:20:25 | [Saint] | If you're back at a prompt and nothing screamed at you or exploded, it finished without error. |
| 13:20:31 | dima__ | yep |
| 13:20:37 | dima__ | but i get a error at the next step |
| 13:20:45 | dima__ | re-reading partition table |
| 13:21:05 | dima__ | BLKRRPART failed: device or resource busy |
| 13:24:25 | dima__ | i'm going to reboot maybe it will fix it |
| 13:24:29 | dima__ | thats what google says anyway |
| 13:25:32 | [Saint] | Did you forget to work as a privileged user again? |
| 13:25:43 | dima__ | nope i did sudo |
| 13:25:51 | dima__ | when i forgot to sudo it said permission denied |
| 13:29:04 | dima__ | doesnt look like mint wants to read the card |
| 13:29:22 | dima__ | it doesnt show up when i do mount |
| 13:29:36 | [Saint] | It was probably bitching about thinking sdb1 was still mounted. |
| 13:30:57 | dima__ | windows says i need to format the disk |
| 13:34:14 | dima__ | yeah, its just not reading that the drive is there |
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| 13:35:46 | dima__ | maybe ill just format it and try again |
| 13:38:52 | dima__ | uh, so it just reduced the memory on the drive |
| 13:39:16 | dima__ | it's a 32 but now its telling me its 27.8 |
| 13:40:13 | dima__ | i see, it split it into 3 partitions |
| 13:41:12 | dima__ | but i can't remove the unallocated partitions |
| 13:41:21 | dima__ | or do anything with them |
| 13:43:10 | [Saint] | gparted is a nice gui front end for parted for this type of work. |
| 13:43:34 | [Saint] | parted is a little cumbersome for the unfamiliar |
| 13:45:32 | dima__ | i did it in windows cmd |
| 13:45:37 | dima__ | should be working now |
| 13:50:59 | dima__ | yeah, its giving me the same error |
| 13:51:05 | dima__ | device or resource busy |
| 13:52:39 | dima__ | should i just continue as if nothing went wrong? |
| 13:52:43 | dima__ | couldnt hurt |
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| 13:55:08 | dima__ | so gparted says it made 3 partitions, 2 unallocated and 1 that is sdb2 |
| 13:55:15 | [Saint] | My guess is that this may be some quirk of virtualization guest additions to do storage passthrough |
| 13:56:24 | dima__ | is it important, or is that just something to check if it did the job |
| 13:57:25 | dongs | just beat rockbox solitaire |
| 13:57:32 | dongs | on a clip+ |
| 13:57:40 | dongs | falling cards do not disappoint. |
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| 14:00:52 | [Saint] | dima__: I'm saying the resource busy error may well be a quirk of this happening in virtualization |
| 14:01:44 | dima__ | reading further, it says to put files onto the partitions |
| 14:01:53 | dima__ | two of which are unallocated though |
| 14:02:34 | dima__ | leads me to think that i messed up on the first step |
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| 14:09:11 | dima__ | error informing the kernel about modifications to aprtition /dev/sdb2 −− device or resource busy. this means linux wont know about changes you made to /dev/sdb2 until you reboot −− so you shouldnt mount it or use it in any way before rebooting |
| 14:15:21 | dima__ | could it have anything to do with the "mbus base address uninitialized" error im getting whenever i boot the vm? |
| 14:17:11 | [Saint] | Possibly. Generally speaking I think it is pretty reckless to do low-level disk operations virtualized. |
| 14:17:26 | [Saint] | LiveUSB is your friend. |
| 14:17:58 | dima__ | yeah, for some reason i can't get it to boot anymore. but thats a whole different can of worms |
| 14:18:57 | dima__ | i know a guy that has linux on his laptop though, i might try that tomorrow if this reboot doesnt fix it |
| 14:21:07 | dima__ | or re read the partition table |
| 14:21:14 | dima__ | it* |
| 14:23:31 | dima__ | it formatted it, now its creating a new filesystem |
| 14:24:09 | dima__ | im using gparted, how do i make sure its using 512-byte sectors? or does the command automatically do that |
| 14:24:10 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #512 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/512 : AMSv2 sd: restore switch sd into high-speed mode by Gunbuster |
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| 14:27:24 | Bilgus | TorC i've been able to reproduce that once now this morning with the latest commit kinda random and odd something with the menus I suppose. I'll see what I can do with it tomorrow maybe passing a screen redraw back from the menu |
| 14:28:16 | dima__ | [Saint]: well, ive completed the last step, the mkfs part. do i just eject the drive, put the CF in, battery, and start the ipod? |
| 14:28:33 | Bilgus | I only see it when going from NO > yes then exiting the menu and selecting don't save |
| 14:30:24 | dima__ | and is it going to ask me to plug it in to a computer? because i just realized i don't have a usb cable for this thing. i could go to walmart and pick one up though. |
| 14:30:46 | Bilgus | ok or yes do save so Its Sel BL off >on select setting and save or don't save Thanks TorC ill look into it |
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| 14:46:52 | dima__ | [Saint]: alright, i got the usb |
| 14:52:48 | dima__ | [Saint]: it did absolutely nothing new. |
| 14:53:24 | dima__ | i put the CF card in, put the battery in, turned it on, and it didnt update the contents of its flash rom. it gave me a sad ipod |
| 14:53:56 | [Saint] | There's two possibilities there: 1. You goofed something. 2. Hardware is screwed up on a deeper level. |
| 14:55:07 | dima__ | were the two other partitions aside from the main one supposed to be unallocated? |
| 14:55:27 | dima__ | using dd on sdb1 (unallocated) ran the command just fine |
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| 14:58:35 | gevaerts | The first partition isn't unallocated. It has type 0 |
| 14:58:42 | gevaerts | That confuses some tools |
| 14:58:44 | dima__ | huh. |
| 14:58:49 | dima__ | well, its like this now http://imgur.com/a/OyBIl |
| 14:59:08 | gevaerts | What does fdisk show? |
| 14:59:18 | gevaerts | parted is one of the tools that's a bit confused about this |
| 14:59:53 | dima__ | let me figure out how this command works |
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| 15:01:10 | dima__ | fdisk sdb doesnt do anything |
| 15:01:16 | dima__ | no such file or directory |
| 15:01:22 | gevaerts | /dev/sdb |
| 15:01:52 | dima__ | it returns command (m for help) |
| 15:01:54 | gevaerts | p |
| 15:02:25 | dima__ | http://imgur.com/a/B7qGj |
| 15:03:00 | gevaerts | looks OK to me. Not sure about the boot flag, but I don't think it matters |
| 15:03:13 | dima__ | thats weird because there are supposed to be three partitions not two |
| 15:03:29 | gevaerts | I've never seen a third partition on a FAT formatted ipod |
| 15:03:32 | dima__ | the other is 1.88gb |
| 15:04:18 | gevaerts | If you mean there's a block of 1.88gb that's not allocated, then yes. That's not in a partition though |
| 15:04:31 | dima__ | ah |
| 15:04:50 | dima__ | gparted said both were unallocated so i assumed. |
| 15:05:00 | gevaerts | You should be able to resize /dev/sdb2 later on (possibly with parted) to make things fit, but I wouldn't do that until things actually work |
| 15:06:07 | dima__ | should i just start over again then |
| 15:06:15 | dima__ | should be a lot faster now that i know what to expect |
| 15:08:00 | gevaerts | What did you do so far? Put the MBR there (and look at it using parted and fdisk...), dd the firmware to /dev/sdb2? |
| 15:08:14 | gevaerts | Anything else that's more than looking or figuring out what didn't work? |
| 15:08:29 | gevaerts | Sorry, dd the firmware to /dev/sdb1 |
| 15:08:38 | gevaerts | Did you format /dev/sdb2 yet? |
| 15:08:50 | dima__ | i did dd mbr.bin to dev/dsb |
| 15:09:01 | dima__ | then i did hdparm -z dev sdb |
| 15:09:15 | dima__ | that all worked after a lot of trial and error |
| 15:09:34 | dima__ | then i did dd firmware to sdb1 (the 79mb partiton |
| 15:09:42 | gevaerts | ok so far |
| 15:09:59 | dima__ | finally, i formatted with gparted the big partition to fat32 |
| 15:10:03 | gevaerts | ok |
| 15:10:24 | dima__ | then i went into bash and did sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 /def/sdb2 |
| 15:10:27 | gevaerts | That should be enough to get the apple firmware to boot |
| 15:10:45 | gevaerts | That last one should be exactly the same as what gparted did, but not an issue |
| 15:10:46 | gevaerts | Hmmm |
| 15:11:17 | dima__ | this guide assumes that my ipod is plugged in |
| 15:11:34 | dima__ | it's not. im doing this to a CF card directly |
| 15:11:34 | gevaerts | What exactly did you dd? IIRC the firmware you download is zipped and needs to be unpacked first. I can't remember if the wiki pages makes that clear |
| 15:11:44 | dima__ | yes, i unpacked it |
| 15:12:30 | dima__ | dd if=Firmware-25.6.3 of=/dev/sdb1 |
| 15:12:34 | dima__ | exactly like that |
| 15:12:45 | gevaerts | hmm, that all looks OK to me |
| 15:13:31 | dima__ | let's see what happens if i plug the ipod into my pc |
| 15:14:43 | dima__ | actually i just rememberd that itunes wont install correctly |
| 15:15:03 | gevaerts | I wonder if the ipod still tries to use 2048 byte sectors somehow. If it does, it's going to be annoying because there's no easy way to access the disk with 2048 byte sectors unless it's in the ipod |
| 15:15:26 | dima__ | the procedure entry point jscontextgetglobalobject could not be located in the dunamic link library webkit.dll |
| 15:15:47 | dima__ | is there itunes for linux? |
| 15:15:50 | gevaerts | no |
| 15:16:06 | * | gevaerts doesn't think itunes is needed in any way for anything at all, ever :) |
| 15:16:24 | dima__ | same |
| 15:16:35 | dima__ | when it had a hard drive i just used disk mode with rockbox |
| 15:17:31 | dima__ | let me reinstall itunes though |
| 15:17:36 | dima__ | i might have figured it out |
| 15:19:53 | dima__ | there's really no reason to install 4 seperate apple programs just to run itunes.... |
| 15:24:38 | dima__ | alright its running |
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| 15:27:36 | dima__ | well, windows ignores it but lets see what linux has to say |
| 15:28:09 | dima__ | it unplugged itself before virtualbox could recognize it... |
| 15:28:17 | dima__ | why does it unplug itself :/ |
| 15:30:10 | * | gevaerts would try without itunes running at all |
| 15:30:31 | dima__ | does the same thing |
| 15:30:38 | gevaerts | Apart from that, who knows? Broken hardware, incompatible CF card, bad cable, ...? |
| 15:30:39 | dima__ | after 30 seconds of disk mode it just turns off |
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| 15:31:45 | dima__ | well, i just bought this cable a few hours ago, and all my other cables are the same thing. incompatable cf card could be the cause, but when i bought it, the guys at head-fi said it was fine. broken hardware might be it, but it's weird that both my ipods have the same story |
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| 15:33:02 | dima__ | this is the exact card https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/666608-REG/Transcend_TS32GCF400_400x_CompactFlash_32GB_Memory.html |
| 15:33:23 | dima__ | and this is the adapter https://www.iflash.xyz/store/iflash-cf/ |
| 15:33:37 | dima__ | i bought both of these a few years ago though |
| 15:34:19 | gevaerts | ok, so it's probably not basic hardware or the cable |
| 15:36:12 | dima__ | out of curiosity, how hard would it be to build a simple circuit that would play my music from this card and just have it sit in my car connected to the aux? |
| 15:36:29 | dima__ | cant be harder than this is becoming :/ |
| 15:37:03 | dima__ | then again, i suppose i could just get a sterio that takes sd cards for cheaper |
| 15:37:38 | dima__ | but thats not the point. what i really want is the ipod enclosure and have it play music |
| 15:38:44 | dima__ | i was supposed to meet a guy on craigslist this morning and buy his ipod for 30 bucks, he said it worked just had a broken battery, which i have a replacement for. that would have given me a conclution on whether my ipod's hardwares were broken |
| 15:38:52 | dima__ | but he bailed. |
| 15:39:53 | dima__ | i wonder if there's a hardware test i can do on the ipod |
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| 15:41:33 | dima__ | oh there is |
| 15:42:27 | dima__ | id=0x22fa05 on usb test |
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| 15:54:49 | dima__ | google is unhelpful as always |
| 15:58:05 | dima__ | uh..... |
| 15:58:09 | dima__ | it wont turn on anymore |
| 15:58:52 | dima__ | i tested the hd |
| 15:59:08 | dima__ | it gave me this |
| 15:59:35 | dima__ | http://imgur.com/9Voj3B0 |
| 15:59:43 | dima__ | i hit menu and it wont even show the apple logo |
| 15:59:47 | dima__ | cant start it |
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| 16:08:14 | dima__ | gevaerts: i may have just fried my logic board. |
| 16:09:32 | dima__ | [Saint]: what do i do now? |
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| 16:44:51 | dima__ | guys? |
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| 17:35:09 | __builtin | do viewports affect lcd_framebuffer[]? |
| 17:44:12 | dima__ | [Saint]: well, thanks anyways guys. guess im giving up :( |
| 17:44:14 | dima__ | gevaerts: |
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| 17:50:38 | johnb2 | Bilgus: should I wait for any pending update or use http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/1417/ now? |
| 17:51:22 | johnb2 | Do I get this correctly: http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/1418/ is not needed anymore? |
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| 18:23:34 | __builtin | it's too much work to fix these memory leaks... |
| 18:23:47 | * | __builtin might as well just nuke the malloc state every new game |
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| 18:28:04 | Bilgus | johnb2: they are combined now |
| 18:28:28 | Bilgus | give me a sec and ill fix the bug torc pointed out |
| 18:32:32 | Bilgus | fixed. |
| 18:38:14 | Bilgus | i'm not completely happy with how the selection menu works so that will probably get changed at some point but I haven't decided how i'll change it, I really don't like the idea of making the user unselect all their selected actions to disable and thats why it has the No-Yes prompt first Ive made it so if it is yes it goes directly to the action selection screen and then drops into the No-Yes menu after but that makes it difficult fo |
| 18:38:39 | Bilgus | m*enus |
| 18:40:54 | Bilgus | the main problem is I don't have access to the button presses from within menus I wish menu callbacks recieved button presses in addition |
| 18:42:03 | gevaerts | __builtin: nuking malloc state as often as possible will help a lot to avoid fragmentation as well |
| 18:46:07 | __builtin | it just doesn't seem like the "safest" choice |
| 18:46:27 | gevaerts | Why? |
| 18:46:54 | gevaerts | Things like audio codecs that do malloc nuke their heap on every track change |
| 18:47:01 | __builtin | unfreed data might be overwritten |
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| 18:48:16 | gevaerts | Is there such data? |
| 18:48:42 | johnb2 | Bilgus: Ok, I start compiling. you do you want me to start with the FuzeV2, right? |
| 18:49:04 | __builtin | there *shouldn't* be |
| 18:49:09 | __builtin | let me check |
| 18:49:23 | johnb2 | Compiling for me is slow (Virtualbox on a CoreDuo ...). |
| 18:50:15 | __builtin | gevaerts: by the way, a bunch more games are working for me now |
| 18:50:42 | __builtin | turns out it's always my clipping code that's screwing up |
| 18:50:46 | gevaerts | __builtin: that may be bad news. The more games you have working, the less likely you are to actually work on the code! :) |
| 18:51:05 | __builtin | I've noticed |
| 18:52:07 | __builtin | by instrumenting the malloc and free functions, it seems that there are still a couple unfreed pointers when quitting a game |
| 18:52:36 | __builtin | but the problem is I have no idea what they are |
| 18:52:40 | gevaerts | Well, yes, but are those pointers still reachable after the game? |
| 18:52:45 | __builtin | I have no idea |
| 18:52:52 | __builtin | valgrind blows up with the sim |
| 18:53:04 | __builtin | so it's just a counter in smalloc() |
| 18:53:05 | Bilgus | up to you the fuzev2 is the one I'm really interested in since it has the scrool wheel |
| 18:53:23 | gevaerts | I'd assume those mallocs are game code, not UI code, so maybe valgrind on the linux version? |
| 18:53:43 | * | __builtin is betting he is the cause of the leaks |
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| 18:55:54 | gevaerts | How much is actually left after a game? I'd assume it's just some main loop with a menu? |
| 18:56:58 | __builtin | 3 allocs |
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| 18:57:22 | __builtin | well, it varies by game |
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| 18:58:11 | __builtin | but it seems to be always 2 or more |
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| 19:26:56 | lebellium | pamaury: I assume you didn't have time to make progress on the toolchain? |
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| 19:27:33 | johnb2 | Bilgus: Responsiveness for BL is good. In FMS Volume (Scroll Wheel) turns screen on despite its selectin in the menu. This doesn't happen with WPS. |
| 19:27:51 | pamaury | lebellium: no didn't have time today, but i'll work onit tonight |
| 19:28:05 | lebellium | ok |
| 19:28:08 | pamaury | i received the broken e585 btw |
| 19:28:12 | lebellium | ah nice |
| 19:28:17 | johnb2 | ^selection |
| 19:28:48 | lebellium | pamaury: you got it shipped to germany? |
| 19:29:06 | pamaury | i live in france ;) |
| 19:29:25 | lebellium | I thought you studied/worked in the UK then Germany |
| 19:29:36 | pamaury | i do |
| 19:29:59 | pamaury | but saarbrucken is at the border |
| 19:30:29 | Bilgus | hmm that is strange, can you try waiting a little longer after BL turns off before you try the volume and see if it makes a difference in FMS |
| 19:30:42 | johnb2 | sure |
| 19:32:21 | Bilgus | NM |
| 19:32:24 | johnb2 | BL timer is set to 5s, Volume after 30s still turns the screen on |
| 19:32:28 | Bilgus | i see what the problem is |
| 19:32:45 | Bilgus | the fuze keymap doesn't have a volume setting |
| 19:33:11 | Bilgus | it probably depends of fall through to context_std |
| 19:33:22 | Bilgus | these corner case are killing me |
| 19:36:52 | Bilgus | actually it doesn't even have the action in Context_standard which is very odd IMO I guess they only cared about it in Context_wps |
| 19:37:53 | * | __builtin is having a weird crash in tlsf |
| 19:38:42 | __builtin | the first allocation I do crashes when freed |
| 19:42:25 | __builtin | gevaerts: I'd like to have a self-documentation feature available |
| 19:43:58 | Bilgus | Hmm I'll have to think about how to go through with this, either I go through and add the actions to all the keymaps where people excluded them or make the lookup go through Context_wps' lookup table if an action isn't found.. I find that incredulous but perhaps it has to do with the scroll wheel adding the button code from outside of Button.c |
| 19:44:44 | Bilgus | Thanks JohnB2 this is exactly why I wanted a real fuzev2 :) |
| 19:45:37 | __builtin | gevaerts: since the actual games are monstrous already (puzzles.ovl is over 800K on target) |
| 19:45:39 | Bilgus | when I get home tomorrow I'll ahve go through the sim and see if get_action ever returns a real action on the FMS |
| 19:45:45 | * | __builtin was thinking of having a separate "help" plugin |
| 19:45:52 | johnb2 | My pleasure. |
| 19:48:18 | __builtin | so how do I load a plugin and then return from it to another plugin? |
| 19:49:14 | Bilgus | I think i'll probably add something to fallthrough to Context_WPS' lookup on Action_unknown in FMS, I think that might also be why Pamaury + others had to use ACTION_SETTINGS_INC for their volume actions |
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| 20:03:04 | pamaury | Bilgus: the use of ACTION_SETTINGS_INC in FMS is because the FMS action code uses ACTION_SETTINGS_INC to change volume, nothing more |
| 20:03:35 | pamaury | if you map volume+ to WPS_VOL_UP, in FMS it will have no effect |
| 20:05:07 | pamaury | (you should check that of course, I'm saying this out of memory) |
| 20:05:28 | pamaury | lebellium: the E585 looks really unimpressive, cheap even ^^ |
| 20:05:41 | lebellium | hum I disagree here |
| 20:06:03 | lebellium | I think it as a nice alu body |
| 20:06:08 | lebellium | and a perfect form factor |
| 20:06:17 | lebellium | with dedicated volume keys and real buttons |
| 20:06:25 | lebellium | I haven't seen such a good player since YP-R0 |
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| 20:08:04 | pamaury | somehow I prefer my E463 |
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| 20:08:28 | pamaury | anyway, I need to figure out what is wrong with it |
| 20:09:15 | pamaury | ah damn, what kind of weird screws is that? |
| 20:09:31 | lebellium | Oo |
| 20:09:41 | lebellium | it's just usual screws |
| 20:09:45 | pamaury | there are really tiny |
| 20:10:29 | lebellium | ask the rockbox fund for a good screwdriver \o/ |
| 20:11:21 | pamaury | I don't understand why people still use Philips screws for tiny things |
| 20:11:28 | pamaury | Torx is just way better |
| 20:11:28 | lebellium | hopefully not everything is gluded inside |
| 20:11:32 | lebellium | glueded* |
| 20:11:49 | pamaury | yes, let's hope |
| 20:12:27 | lebellium | torx is less common, isn't it? |
| 20:13:16 | lebellium | I thought some manufacturers deliberatively put torx screws on some devices to be sure only a few people can disassemble them |
| 20:14:17 | pamaury | that was the case when they were first introduced I guess, but torx is just better |
| 20:14:32 | pamaury | hum, it doesn't seem to be glued but I'm struggling a bit to open the thing |
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| 20:16:47 | pamaury | I'm inside :D |
| 20:17:25 | lebellium | take some pics for the science |
| 20:22:41 | pamaury | I am not sure how much I was to disassemble it though, the cpu on is on the hidden side of the board |
| 20:22:51 | pamaury | I can only see something that must the PMU |
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| 20:25:22 | pamaury | voltmeter shows battery is at 3.3V |
| 20:25:33 | pamaury | but apparently when plugged it doesn't charge |
| 20:26:47 | pamaury | I can measure 5.9V at the battery terminal when plugged |
| 20:28:27 | Bilgus | Pamaury, some of the targets don't have any keys mapped to volume at all |
| 20:28:37 | Bilgus | (in FMS) |
| 20:29:12 | pamaury | Bilgus: like? |
| 20:29:13 | Bilgus | ex. https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/master/apps/keymaps/keymap-fuze.c |
| 20:29:56 | pamaury | Bilgus: it does |
| 20:30:06 | pamaury | radio falls back to settings |
| 20:30:17 | pamaury | and settings has ACTION_SETTING_INC |
| 20:32:08 | Bilgus | oh you are right I read that as Context_STD |
| 20:33:46 | pamaury | lebellium: something is not right, device seems to be charging randomly, like it charges for a few seconds and then stops charging |
| 20:35:23 | pamaury | I suspect the battery cables are a bit flaky |
| 20:35:50 | pamaury | either that or the usb connector |
| 20:37:47 | pamaury | or bad usb cable |
| 20:37:57 | pamaury | I should have check that even before disassemling it |
| 20:38:09 | lebellium | you don't have another cable like this? |
| 20:38:45 | pamaury | I do, I just used the one the guy sent me, but maye its cable is just bad :) |
| 20:39:08 | __builtin | [Saint]: would you happen to know how to load a plugin from another plugin? |
| 20:39:26 | lebellium | well, disassembling is always exciting.... |
| 20:39:33 | lebellium | ... until you break the player :D |
| 20:39:45 | pamaury | I have never killed a player yet |
| 20:39:59 | lebellium | I broke the Cowon C2 like that |
| 20:40:08 | lebellium | the screen connector |
| 20:40:24 | pamaury | worst I've done is broken plastic clips, thus the player wouldn't stick really well after tat |
| 20:40:35 | [Saint] | __builtin: No idea. |
| 20:41:10 | pamaury | lebellium: apparently it's just the cable :D |
| 20:41:20 | pamaury | that wa easy |
| 20:41:35 | lebellium | I paid €50 for a working cable :D |
| 20:41:51 | Bilgus | Pamaury do you see any harm in adding the ACTION_SETTINGS_INC ...etc to the players that don't have them in the radio contexts? |
| 20:41:51 | lebellium | well done |
| 20:42:27 | pamaury | Bilgus: you mean adding it explicitely to radio context instead of relying on fallback? |
| 20:43:06 | Bilgus | yes, otherwise I have to work around all the weird fall throughs on buttons without Button_rel |
| 20:43:56 | pamaury | f**** the super tiny screw is somewhere on the floor |
| 20:44:03 | pamaury | and it doesn't have gps to be found |
| 20:46:17 | [Saint] | high density magnet? |
| 20:46:29 | [Saint] | that's the lazy/blind engineer's best friend. |
| 20:46:52 | [Saint] | but knowing your luck it'll by some non-ferrous alloy. |
| 20:46:57 | [Saint] | s/by/be/ |
| 20:48:31 | pamaury | clever :) |
| 20:50:12 | pamaury | damn, putting the player back is tricky |
| 20:50:33 | [Saint] | ever since I mangled my wrist up and needed to switch from left to right handedness, I pretty much always keep a high density magnet on an extend-able pole thing withing reach when doing work like this. |
| 20:50:52 | [Saint] | I am forever dropping tiny, and not so tiny, screws. |
| 20:51:07 | [Saint] | gotta get 'em before the cat eats them. |
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| 20:55:46 | pamaury | damn it, the case of this thing is super super tight |
| 20:55:53 | * | pamaury curves evil engineers |
| 20:57:32 | lebellium | difficult to imagine how hard it is to put it back |
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| 20:57:38 | lebellium | from the outside it looks well designed :D |
| 20:58:58 | pamaury | ah finally back to one piece :) |
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| 21:43:38 | Bilgus | pamaury I think I can just filter out actions from Context_Std and have it work properly |
| 21:44:43 | Bilgus | I was just returning actions only from the specified context list (prior to fallthrough) |
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