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| 01:49:19 | amazoniantoad | I am trying to install rockbox on my ipod and when I go through the motions it says it completed but the ios software remains |
| 01:50:37 | amazoniantoad | Bilgus, the project worked but now I can't get rockbox installed |
| 01:51:23 | Bilgus | sorry not an I-pod guy |
| 01:51:30 | amazoniantoad | :c |
| 01:51:34 | amazoniantoad | It worked though :p |
| 01:51:42 | amazoniantoad | Thanks a lot for the help |
| 01:52:32 | Bilgus | yw |
| 01:53:55 | __builtin | what version is the ipod? |
| 01:54:15 | amazoniantoad | 6th gen |
| 01:54:26 | amazoniantoad | do i need to have itunes installed on the computer? |
| 01:54:46 | __builtin | no, you don't |
| 01:54:51 | __builtin | what OS are you running? |
| 01:54:55 | amazoniantoad | windows 10 |
| 01:55:09 | __builtin | what have you tried? |
| 01:55:46 | Bilgus | Mihail - hmm for the boot external FW project we have a model name but I don't think the naming convention is going to work well with names like these MODEL_NAME "Philips GoGear HDD63x0" |
| 01:55:50 | amazoniantoad | i start the utility and go to install. I set the utility to install on 6th gen |
| 01:56:07 | amazoniantoad | it runs through and says, "package installation finished successfully" |
| 01:56:16 | __builtin | ah, that won't install the bootloader |
| 01:56:19 | amazoniantoad | oh |
| 01:56:35 | __builtin | let me find the instructions |
| 01:56:41 | amazoniantoad | k |
| 01:56:55 | Bilgus | So maybe we should do model number instead 'rockbox_main.65' |
| 01:57:41 | __builtin | https://files.freemyipod.org/~user890104/bootloader-ipodclassic.html |
| 01:58:39 | __builtin | I believe it's a patched rbutil that can do the bootloader install automatically |
| 01:59:38 | amazoniantoad | __builtin, it doesn't let me select "bootloader" |
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| 02:00:16 | amazoniantoad | The bootloader box is grayed out and says, "the selected player doesn't need a bootloader" |
| 02:00:41 | __builtin | have you downloaded the Rockbox Utility provided on https://files.freemyipod.org/~user890104/bootloader-ipodclassic.html ? |
| 02:01:24 | amazoniantoad | should I download that exact one? I downloaded the executable from the front page of rockbox.org |
| 02:01:46 | __builtin | yes, you have to |
| 02:01:49 | amazoniantoad | k |
| 02:02:04 | __builtin | the one on rockbox.org doesn't have the requisite patches |
| 02:02:10 | amazoniantoad | oh |
| 02:03:55 | amazoniantoad | working now :) |
| 02:03:56 | amazoniantoad | thanks |
| 02:04:48 | __builtin | np |
| 02:04:50 | __builtin | enjoy :D |
| 02:04:55 | amazoniantoad | so excited |
| 02:05:02 | amazoniantoad | I've been waiting a very long time for this day :p |
| 02:05:05 | amazoniantoad | Never had the time |
| 02:05:18 | __builtin | enjoy the game plugins, especially ;) |
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| 02:06:06 | amazoniantoad | __builtin, so how do I setup this database? |
| 02:06:11 | amazoniantoad | I have songs ready to be loaded |
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| 02:07:06 | __builtin | I barely do anything with music |
| 02:07:15 | __builtin | you should probably look at the manual for a similar device |
| 02:07:50 | amazoniantoad | ah |
| 02:07:51 | amazoniantoad | okay |
| 02:07:55 | amazoniantoad | thanks |
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| 02:14:46 | Mihail | Bilgus: using model number would be most easy way but it not very informative |
| 02:14:57 | Mihail | I don't know is it right solution but maybe we can add new define MODEL_DIR_NAME and set it to same name as we have in firmware/export/config/*.h and got ".rockbox.gogearhdd6330" or ".rockbox.sansafuzev2" |
| 02:15:11 | __builtin | hey, is there any way to kill a thread in rockbox? |
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| 02:25:36 | amazoniantoad | do I need to drop files in a particular directory in order to have the database see them? |
| 02:25:46 | amazoniantoad | I tried to update manually and the new songs were still not detected |
| 02:26:15 | amazoniantoad | nvm |
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| 02:28:35 | Bilgus_Ph | Mihail Sounds good to me, the bootloader needs an update for this anyways |
| 02:30:06 | amazoniantoad | This is so cool :D |
| 02:30:57 | * | __builtin needs to browse through FlySpray some time soon |
| 02:36:54 | Bilgus_Ph | __builtin I don't know if I'd call it killing a thread but you could use remove_thread() I don't think thread exit allows you to call from outside thread (anymore) so maybe yopu could pass it a message instead (like sys_poweroff) |
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| 03:07:08 | [7] | about wodz's nano2g: I'm too lazy to read those months worth of logs right now, but if it is detected as a wrong flash size, it's probably best to completely wipe the nand and let apple's code (e.g. diskmode image) recreate the FTL structures |
| 03:13:33 | [7] | prof_wolfff: in case you aren't aware, there's quite a bit of info on the n2g FTL here: https://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Nano2G_FTL |
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| 03:16:07 | amazoniantoad | Bilgus, you there? |
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| 04:34:13 | amazoniantoad | hey everything was normal on my rockbox but suddenly thre screen turned blank |
| 04:35:00 | amazoniantoad | restarted the rockbox but i just get this blank screen |
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| 04:50:38 | amazoniantoad_ | Sorry I lost connection |
| 04:50:46 | amazoniantoad_ | I randomly had this white screen appear and it wont go away |
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| 04:51:00 | amazoniantoad_ | i reinstalled everything but that didn't help |
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| 04:54:13 | amazoniantoad_ | __builtin, :c |
| 04:54:17 | amazoniantoad_ | Can you help? |
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| 05:09:25 | amazoniantoad_ | Bilgus, :c |
| 05:09:32 | amazoniantoad_ | idk what to do |
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| 05:13:35 | Bilgus | IIRC ipods don't have power buttons but again not an Ipod guy |
| 05:16:34 | Bilgus | normally white screens mean crash have you held down menu and center button for like 20 seconds? |
| 05:16:43 | amazoniantoad_ | I did that and it restarted |
| 05:16:49 | amazoniantoad_ | but then i just got the white screen again |
| 05:17:26 | amazoniantoad_ | maybe I should try restoring it |
| 05:18:32 | Bilgus | I'd hold off on that till you hear from someone that knows Ipods |
| 05:19:02 | Bilgus | are you sure you followed all the instructions to the T? |
| 05:19:18 | amazoniantoad_ | yes |
| 05:19:21 | amazoniantoad_ | it was working just fine too |
| 05:19:26 | amazoniantoad_ | then suddenly it just did that |
| 05:19:49 | amazoniantoad_ | Could super glue on the inside of the ipod casing done this Bilgus? |
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| 05:19:56 | Bilgus | nah |
| 05:20:00 | amazoniantoad_ | :c |
| 05:20:04 | amazoniantoad_ | I broke it :c |
| 05:20:08 | amazoniantoad_ | Idk what I did either |
| 05:20:08 | amazoniantoad_ | ugh |
| 05:20:30 | Bilgus | well I suppose if it like covered a connection maybe but I doubt it |
| 05:20:52 | amazoniantoad_ | i applied it to one soldering point |
| 05:21:07 | amazoniantoad_ | and it seems to have evaporated onto stuff on the inside of the case |
| 05:21:13 | amazoniantoad_ | almost like a white powder |
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| 06:11:36 | TheSeven | amazoniantoad: white screen would usually be a sign of a bad LCD or bad connector |
| 06:12:02 | TheSeven | my nano2g also did that a while ago |
| 06:12:07 | TheSeven | there are really cheap replacement screens on eba |
| 06:12:10 | TheSeven | ebay* |
| 06:18:44 | amazoniantoad | TheSeven, I replaced the screen and had the same result |
| 06:19:19 | TheSeven | which ipod model are we talking about? |
| 06:19:23 | amazoniantoad | 6th gen |
| 06:20:06 | amazoniantoad | I can't believe this happened |
| 06:20:11 | TheSeven | and the LCD failed white (i.e. backlight works but panel doesn't), even in the boot loader? |
| 06:20:17 | TheSeven | which boot loader are you using? |
| 06:20:29 | TheSeven | did you try going back to the apple firmware, and if so, does it do the same thing? |
| 06:21:11 | TheSeven | did it usually show an apple logo during boot and now doesn't anymore? |
| 06:21:19 | amazoniantoad | when I have power the screen lights up. Nothing more. I loaded apple firmware back but no apple logo shows |
| 06:21:30 | amazoniantoad | if I get it to boot I can hear my wheel scrolling through options |
| 06:21:33 | amazoniantoad | so it still boots |
| 06:21:35 | amazoniantoad | just no picture |
| 06:22:07 | TheSeven | ok, so the original firmware fails to initialize it as well - pretty certainly some kind of hardware failure then |
| 06:22:12 | amazoniantoad | I also replaced the screen and the same issue was there |
| 06:22:28 | TheSeven | and if you swapped the LCD with one of the correct type, that basically only leaves the mainboard and connector |
| 06:22:31 | amazoniantoad | It looks like it's probably the logic board |
| 06:22:53 | amazoniantoad | well I don't have an lcd screen for this exact model actually |
| 06:23:38 | TheSeven | there is a possibility that screens for newer models (120/160gb thin) wouldn't work with the original firmware on old logic boards |
| 06:24:08 | amazoniantoad | I already ran into that issue. I only have this one screen for this model |
| 06:24:08 | TheSeven | apple added some additional LCD types with the later generations that the old firmware images have no driver for |
| 06:24:14 | amazoniantoad | I mean the board itself seems fine |
| 06:27:45 | TheSeven | well there are basically two options: either the old screen is dead and the new one isn't compatible, or it's a logic board problem |
| 06:28:39 | TheSeven | which specific ipod model is this? which capacity? year of manufacturing? |
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| 11:58:55 | wodz | pamaury: Did Agptek contact you? |
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| 12:17:12 | pamaury | wodz: yes |
| 12:17:21 | pamaury | they will send me something |
| 12:17:24 | wodz | pamaury: me too |
| 12:17:30 | pamaury | cool :) |
| 12:17:55 | pamaury | I hope it will more than just the device, some amount of documentation or code would be helpful |
| 12:18:17 | pamaury | it would be ridiculous if I have to disassemble the device to find out what is inside |
| 12:18:23 | wodz | :P |
| 12:19:30 | wodz | pamaury: Do ingenic released linux sources? It would be much faster to extract headers from something than doing it by hand |
| 12:20:14 | pamaury | I think they did, some time ago I tried to get all in the stuff ingenic released on x1000 but some git repo timed out and now I don't remember where were the instructions |
| 12:21:57 | pamaury | although if the headers have the same quality as the jz4760b, that's only marginally better than by hand |
| 12:22:19 | wodz | :/ |
| 12:22:55 | wodz | pamaury: How did you assembled register description file for 4760b then? |
| 12:29:48 | pamaury | wodz: I first used a bunch of hacky regex to turn it into a domain specific language I invented, then I fixed a embarassing about of typoes, then I generated the xml from that |
| 12:30:30 | wodz | hahaha |
| 12:31:33 | pamaury | but those headers had clearly be done by hand, did not follow any single convention and were obviously untested |
| 12:31:40 | pamaury | maybe x1000 will be better |
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| 13:57:05 | wodz | pamaury: https://github.com/HackLinux/kernel/tree/picopi-x1000-3.10.14/arch/mips/xburst/soc-x1000/include/soc |
| 13:59:45 | wodz | pamaury: This sources state that this is mips32r1 core |
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| 14:11:37 | wodz | pamaury: This is my favorite https://github.com/HackLinux/kernel/blob/picopi-x1000-3.10.14/arch/mips/xburst/soc-x1000/common/regs_save_restore.py |
| 14:11:47 | wodz | python script to produce .S assembly file |
| 14:12:25 | pamaury | lol |
| 14:12:38 | pamaury | I guess there is more python than generated lines of assembler codes ;) |
| 14:13:35 | pamaury | the link you send misses some register headers obviously, they muist be somewhere else in the tree |
| 14:18:45 | wodz | pamaury: the easiest way is to clone and diff agains vanilla 3.10.14 |
| 14:28:45 | pamaury_ | wodz: the headers look spread out |
| 14:29:10 | pamaury_ | for example there are some registers in drivers/mmc/host/jzmmc* |
| 14:29:36 | pamaury_ | with fantastic names with jsmmc_v11, v12 |
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| 14:31:31 | pamaury_ | it's the same for rtc, spi |
| 14:31:48 | pamaury_ | uart |
| 14:32:30 | pamaury_ | fb_v11 |
| 14:32:50 | pamaury_ | and v12, I don't know what are v11 and v12 |
| 14:33:32 | pamaury_ | fb_v13, ipu |
| 14:34:12 | wodz | pamaury_: I saw a few _v13 files related to x1000 |
| 14:34:41 | pamaury_ | and then some jzsound codec stuff |
| 14:34:56 | pamaury_ | asoc-v13 |
| 14:35:35 | pamaury_ | basically it's a mess :) |
| 14:36:21 | wodz | nothing new |
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| 15:22:22 | wodz | pamaury_: sources suggest x1000 uses designware usb otg 2.0 core. Am I right that 4760b used something else? |
| 15:25:12 | pamaury_ | wodz: yes it appears it uses designware usb. That's good and bad I guess. Yes the jz4760b uses something custom |
| 15:25:57 | wodz | pamaury_: that means porting hwstub to new core again :/ |
| 15:27:14 | pamaury_ | yeah that's the bad part, also we know how this particular core has many variants and quirks |
| 15:27:37 | wodz | unfortunately |
| 15:28:09 | wodz | gtg |
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| 15:36:17 | prof_wolfff | TheSeven: I just checked it, i have snapshot-201003100612-public.7z, is that the one you are referring to? |
| 15:37:05 | prof_wolfff | TheSeven: about wodz's nano2g, it seems that the first problem is that there are read errors with RB but not with Apple disk mode |
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| 17:27:08 | kylemsguy | I'm running the dev build d787191, if it helps |
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| 19:11:39 | TheSeven | prof_wolfff: well a wrong FTL size would explain a lot of things, but no idea how that would be misdetected in the first place |
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| 19:31:51 | Bilgus_ph | Kylemsguy: sure is do you have a way to compile builds? But first have you tried just one song or a few songs on repeat there could be a bad file in there somewhere.. Next have you looked at battery bench to see what kinda data is in there? |
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| 19:34:11 | kylemsguy | I could probably set up a build environment later. I thought it was an issue with hi-res flacs at first, but this also happened with a smaller playlist of MP3s. I'm currently testing it with the same MP3s on internal storage, and it seems to be fine... |
| 19:34:34 | kylemsguy | Battery bench shows nothing unusual, other than the time the system froze |
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| 19:41:12 | Bilgus_ph | hmm if it ends up all good on internal storage maybe try a different sd card then. if that goes wayward as well we'll move on to more involved testing |
| 19:42:51 | kylemsguy | So you know if the clip zip has any issues with class 10 cards? |
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| 19:51:11 | Bilgus_ph | I can't remember for sure.. TorC and a few others have the clip zip and we have a few sd gurus around that could answer |
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| 20:13:21 | lebellium | pamaury: are you going to work in priority on NWZ or FiiO X1/AGPTek? |
| 20:14:28 | pamaury | lebellium: I want to finish NWZ first, or at least put it in a good shape |
| 20:14:45 | pamaury | I still have problem with sound on NWZ: Acoustic mode seems to make the sound correct, but very loud |
| 20:14:57 | pamaury | lebellium: can you try it on your A20 ? |
| 20:15:04 | pamaury | or A10 I don't remember |
| 20:15:06 | pamaury | or both |
| 20:15:30 | lebellium | both :) |
| 20:15:48 | lebellium | well, A20 is not ready on your side |
| 20:15:54 | lebellium | but I tried your patch on A10 |
| 20:16:13 | lebellium | and I got what you say |
| 20:16:19 | lebellium | sound but volume issue |
| 20:16:47 | lebellium | No, I tried on E580 actually |
| 20:16:47 | pamaury | yeah even at volume 1 it's insanely loud |
| 20:16:48 | lebellium | sorry |
| 20:16:55 | pamaury | lebellium: can you try on A10 to see ? |
| 20:17:01 | pamaury | I will try on the E460 |
| 20:17:04 | lebellium | ok |
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| 20:19:40 | TheSeven | prof_wolfff: sent you a link to a full dump of my ipod stuff privately |
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| 20:20:55 | Mihail | kylemsguy: try this build with same conditions: http://knk.square7.ch/rb/rockbox-zip-0.zip |
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| 20:25:11 | lebellium | pamaury: can you rebase? |
| 20:25:27 | pamaury | lebellium: yeah, why ? |
| 20:25:37 | lebellium | because I can't apply your patch |
| 20:27:18 | pamaury | not sure what you mean , I usually do a checkout, but give me 5 min |
| 20:27:40 | lebellium | "cannot merge" |
| 20:27:50 | lebellium | I want to apply it on top of head |
| 20:28:23 | pamaury | ah, let me see |
| 20:31:09 | pamaury | updated |
| 20:32:24 | lebellium | thanks |
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| 20:46:33 | pamaury | lebellium: yeah on the E460 it's very loud |
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| 20:47:19 | pamaury | I can't imagine the codec doesn't provide a DAC level control, but I don't know how we can access that |
| 20:47:46 | lebellium | pamaury: *PANIC* control 'Playback Volume' has wrong count (got 1, expected 2) |
| 20:47:47 | pamaury | in the worst case, I think we can make use of Rockbox software volume to reduce the volume |
| 20:48:05 | pamaury | lebellium: that's weird, which player ? |
| 20:48:09 | lebellium | A10 |
| 20:48:32 | pamaury | lebellium: do you have a very recent bootloader on the A10 ? |
| 20:48:58 | lebellium | I only put the bootloader once, with you |
| 20:49:07 | lebellium | It's recent for sure but not very recent |
| 20:49:46 | pamaury | lebellium: could you install a newer one ? I need that to run scripts so we can debug this panic |
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| 20:50:49 | lebellium | pamaury: I got a similar PANIC on E580 |
| 20:51:00 | lebellium | when pushing the volume too high |
| 20:51:02 | pamaury | on E580 ?? That's very strnge |
| 20:51:22 | lebellium | yes, keep 'volume up' pressed |
| 20:51:23 | pamaury | on newer build the volume is capped at 32 |
| 20:51:35 | pamaury | so you shouldn't get a panic |
| 20:51:40 | lebellium | yes, that happens at 31 |
| 20:52:17 | lebellium | well, at 31 it's OK but if you want to go upper, you get the panic |
| 20:52:41 | pamaury | lebellium: ok my mistake, I screwed the limit, I wrote 32 instead of 31 :-p |
| 20:52:51 | pamaury | but still doesn't explain the A10 error |
| 20:53:05 | pamaury | lebellium: can you build and install a new bootloader for A10 ? |
| 20:53:13 | lebellium | I guess so |
| 20:53:13 | pamaury | do you remember the instructions ? |
| 20:53:28 | lebellium | I saved some logs |
| 20:53:33 | lebellium | I hope it will be enough /D |
| 20:53:35 | lebellium | :D |
| 20:54:44 | lebellium | among others I have the instructions you gave to wodz |
| 20:54:45 | pamaury | cd build_nwza10_bl/ (assuming you still have it) |
| 20:54:47 | pamaury | make clean |
| 20:54:50 | pamaury | make |
| 20:55:20 | pamaury | ../rbutil/mknwzboot/mknwzboot -b bootloader-nwa10.sony -o NW-WM_FW.UPG |
| 20:55:27 | pamaury | copy the UPG to device |
| 20:55:28 | pamaury | unmount device |
| 20:55:40 | pamaury | ../utils/nwztools/scsitools/scsi /dev/sdX do_fw_upgrade |
| 20:56:23 | pamaury | it's almost too easy, I should make it more obscure some time |
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| 20:57:05 | lebellium | I prefer making it more difficult, starting from scratch (I make a new directory for each compile) and following the instructions for wodz :D |
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| 20:59:48 | pamaury | I see. I myself always brick the device first and recover it by installing rockbox, to have a better sense of accomplishment |
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| 21:05:44 | lebellium | system software update failed |
| 21:05:46 | lebellium | hum |
| 21:06:36 | pamaury | wht is this message ? |
| 21:06:54 | pamaury | what happened exactly > |
| 21:06:55 | pamaury | ? |
| 21:07:18 | lebellium | it appeared on screen, after doing |
| 21:07:20 | lebellium | sudo ../../utils/nwztools/scsitools/scsitool /dev/sdb do_fw_upgrade |
| 21:08:19 | pamaury | hum, the update script doesn't print this message, did you see the message printed before that ? |
| 21:08:34 | pamaury | ok maybe it's a problem with the update crafting |
| 21:08:35 | lebellium | no, this message comes from Sony |
| 21:08:43 | pamaury | are you selected the proper target in configure ? |
| 21:09:17 | lebellium | I guess so since I got the "bootloader-nwza10.sony" file |
| 21:13:42 | pamaury | hum |
| 21:14:11 | pamaury | lebellium: what is the output of mknwzboot ? |
| 21:15:17 | lebellium | ubuntu@ubuntu-VirtualBox:~/rockbox/A10/bootloader060217$ ../../rbutil/mknwzboot/mknwzboot -b bootloader-nwza10.sony -o NW-WM_FW.UPG |
| 21:15:19 | lebellium | [INFO] Bootloader file for Sony NWZ-A10 Series |
| 21:15:20 | lebellium | Result: 0 |
| 21:16:15 | pamaury | are you really sure you copied this file to the device AND you unmount before sending the upgrade command ? |
| 21:20:26 | lebellium | that's what I just thought while cooking |
| 21:20:32 | lebellium | I forgot to unmount the device |
| 21:20:57 | pamaury | so is it working now ? |
| 21:21:34 | lebellium | let me a few seconds, I try to handle both A10 and food |
| 21:21:37 | lebellium | :) |
| 21:22:18 | pamaury | dangerous ;) |
| 21:24:46 | lebellium | why the hell is it umount and not unmount |
| 21:24:49 | lebellium | linux hates me |
| 21:25:28 | furrywolf | there's some quote from one of the unix people along the lines if "if I could do anything over again, I'd spell creat with an e." |
| 21:26:47 | pamaury | haha |
| 21:27:49 | lebellium | pamaury: I still get the same message from Sony :( |
| 21:28:10 | pamaury | that's weird, can you send me the UPG ? |
| 21:28:20 | lebellium | I'll try with the 1st bootloader (January, 11th) instead |
| 21:28:26 | lebellium | this one worked so it should work again |
| 21:29:03 | lebellium | just to be sure if the problem is me or the file |
| 21:30:10 | pamaury | ok :) |
| 21:30:16 | lebellium | so it's noe me |
| 21:30:18 | lebellium | not |
| 21:30:22 | lebellium | it's the file |
| 21:30:26 | lebellium | I send it to you |
| 21:31:08 | pamaury | lebellium: in the mean time, can you |
| 21:31:08 | pamaury | make -C ../rbutil/mknwzboot clean |
| 21:31:08 | pamaury | make -C ../rbutil/mknwzboot |
| 21:31:08 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK pamaury |
| 21:31:08 | pamaury | and retry to build the bootloader ? |
| 21:32:55 | lebellium | I did the latter |
| 21:32:58 | lebellium | but not the 1st (clean) |
| 21:33:17 | pamaury | try to clean first |
| 21:34:32 | lebellium | ok |
| 21:34:34 | lebellium | email sent |
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| 21:41:29 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 21:41:29 | * | pamaury hoped for a problem between the keyboard and the chair :( |
| 21:43:39 | lebellium | still failed |
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| 21:46:08 | pamaury | lebellium: your old file is empty ?! |
| 21:46:31 | lebellium | hum |
| 21:46:40 | lebellium | it shouldn't |
| 21:46:53 | pamaury | lebellium: also, are you sure you didn't make a typo in the name > |
| 21:46:54 | pamaury | ? |
| 21:47:06 | pamaury | the new file looks valid |
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| 21:47:40 | lebellium | ah well spotted |
| 21:47:45 | lebellium | the old one looks valid :) |
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| 21:48:14 | lebellium | ok it's empy and it shouldn't (probably a copy & paste problem) but the file name should be like the old one since this one worked |
| 21:48:49 | kylemsguy | Mihail trying out your build. Will report with results |
| 21:48:53 | lebellium | I try again with NW_WM_FW.UPG |
| 21:49:06 | pamaury | lebellium: the name is NW_WM_FW.UPG |
| 21:49:17 | lebellium | yes, you told me NW-WM_FW.UPG |
| 21:49:23 | pamaury | sorry that was a typo |
| 21:49:26 | Mihail | kylemsguy: ok |
| 21:49:32 | pamaury | I was hoping you would correct it ;) |
| 21:49:42 | pamaury | so maybe that explains the update problem |
| 21:49:52 | lebellium | I was hoping the file name doesn't matter and only the file extension does |
| 21:51:15 | pamaury | no the name matters :-p |
| 21:51:22 | lebellium | pamaury: oh it worked \o/ |
| 21:51:30 | lebellium | love losing time with typos |
| 21:51:56 | pamaury | haha |
| 21:52:12 | lebellium | ok |
| 21:52:19 | lebellium | tell me now for the scripts |
| 21:52:28 | pamaury | lebellium: can you download this file: |
| 21:52:29 | pamaury | pamaury/7c73b73d093006ad1a390f13b86c1168">https://gist.github.com/pamaury/7c73b73d093006ad1a390f13b86c1168 |
| 21:52:36 | pamaury | put it at the root of the device |
| 21:52:56 | pamaury | in the bootloader menu, select Debug then run script and click on this script in the list |
| 21:53:11 | pamaury | then plug usb, you should have a file at the root called amixer.log |
| 21:53:14 | pamaury | send it to me |
| 21:56:27 | lebellium | pamaury: http://pastebin.com/FwUyFuk8 |
| 21:58:01 | pamaury | lebellium: ah damn I made a typo |
| 21:58:08 | pamaury | can you change the first line to be |
| 21:58:10 | pamaury | amixer contents |
| 21:58:20 | pamaury | and re-run the script |
| 21:58:29 | pamaury | (keep the stdout redirection) |
| 21:58:41 | pamaury | amixer contents /contents/amixer.log |
| 21:58:43 | lebellium | I guess you should stop expecting me to see your typos aha |
| 21:59:31 | pamaury | haha |
| 21:59:56 | pamaury | I always mix up amixer's controls |
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| 22:04:00 | lebellium | I fixed another typo :) |
| 22:04:02 | lebellium | amixer controls > /contents/amixer.log |
| 22:04:32 | lebellium | http://pastebin.com/DeuhPqz7 |
| 22:05:25 | pamaury | I see, apparently they decide that volume is not stereo anymore |
| 22:09:00 | pamaury | lebellium: I'll fix the code to handle this... unfortunate detail |
| 22:09:14 | pamaury | I guess we won't have any balance on the A10 for now |
| 22:10:29 | lebellium | Strange for a supposedly 'audiophile' player :) |
| 22:10:59 | pamaury | lebellium: I believe Sony uses a nonstandard API to handle all the DSP stuff |
| 22:11:15 | pamaury | it makes sense to go as far as not even putting balance in the standard API I guess |
| 22:11:25 | pamaury | the problem is that we don't know how it works :-/ |
| 22:12:51 | lebellium | numid=6,iface=MIXER,name='Sampling Rate' |
| 22:12:55 | lebellium | ; Item #5 '192000' |
| 22:13:03 | lebellium | that's 'audiophile' |
| 22:13:05 | lebellium | \o/ |
| 22:13:29 | * | lebellium trying to get attention from [Saint] |
| 22:14:29 | Mode | "#rockbox +o [Saint]" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 22:14:40 | [Saint] | Tell me more... |
| 22:14:42 | [Saint] | ;) |
| 22:14:46 | lebellium | aha |
| 22:15:05 | Mode | "#rockbox -o [Saint]" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 22:15:15 | [Saint] | I'll let you away with it, this time. |
| 22:15:35 | * | dys likes 192kHz hardware |
| 22:15:43 | dys | great for doing software-defined radio :-) |
| 22:15:44 | dys | http://ansel.ydns.eu/~andreas/40m-rimloop-contest.png |
| 22:16:36 | [Saint] | dys: yeah, I was going to say, 192KHz consumer hardware is pretty much universally great for doing things totally outside the scope or recommended or intended usage. |
| 22:17:12 | [Saint] | dys: incidentally, y'all played with RPI's broken-as-shit master clock? |
| 22:17:46 | [Saint] | If you overclock the ARM_CORE, you can broadcast anywhere from 1MHz to ~600MHz. |
| 22:18:03 | dys | never used a pi for anything audio-related or sdr related |
| 22:18:33 | [Saint] | You can get some absurdly powerful FM broadcast from it. |
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| 22:19:20 | dys | I don't have a amateur radio license yet, so I'll try to avoid intentional emissions |
| 22:19:40 | [Saint] | Without a tuned antenna, you can do maybe...10~15m. With an antenna, you can do 200~300m |
| 22:20:36 | [Saint] | Since this isn't a device rated in any way, shape, or form for this type of signal generation or reception, you can argue it away as unintended operation. |
| 22:21:10 | [Saint] | I know of at least two people who have challenged their local regulatory bodies in this regard. |
| 22:21:30 | [Saint] | Though, I know of at least twice as many who weren't as lucky. So, ...yeah. |
| 22:21:58 | * | gevaerts suspect that one could even argue that this is off-topic! |
| 22:22:22 | dys | I'll stick to the receiving side of things. can be quite entertaining as well :-) |
| 22:23:40 | dys | gevaerts: ja, to end this excursion: I didn't manage to hear a difference from >44.1kHz or >16 bit hardware |
| 22:24:08 | gevaerts | Oh, you have human ears? :) |
| 22:24:21 | [Saint] | Colour me surprised. |
| 22:25:04 | * | [Saint] has been saying this here, and the forums, to anyone who'll listen for the better part of a decade |
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| 22:30:00 | pamaury | dys: that's surprising, I can clearly the difference between 44Khz and 96Khz. My preference would be 1Mhz sampling but no one is good enough to provide that |
| 22:30:13 | pamaury | and 128-bit per sample of course, that's the baseline |
| 22:31:34 | lebellium | with your Beats headphone |
| 22:31:45 | * | __builtin would be surprised, but pamaury is a robot |
| 22:32:09 | lebellium | I'm sometimes wondering too |
| 22:32:13 | __builtin | I still can't tell the difference between 8- and 16-bit audio |
| 22:32:13 | lebellium | but a robot doesn't make typos |
| 22:32:15 | lebellium | :) |
| 22:32:28 | pamaury | lebellium: I have to emulate human behavior |
| 22:32:44 | __builtin | http://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_16vs8bit.php |
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| 22:39:19 | [Saint] | __builtin: that site is hilariously badly implemented. |
| 22:39:43 | __builtin | how so? |
| 22:39:49 | [Saint] | Anyone with even half a clue about webdesign can score a perfect score with ease. |
| 22:39:59 | __builtin | well, duh |
| 22:40:19 | [Saint] | well, it certainly doesn't /have/ to be that way. |
| 22:40:42 | [Saint] | opening the developer console in your favorite browser really shouldn;t negate an ABX. :) |
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| 22:43:48 | __builtin | I don't see any point in cheating that way though |
| 22:47:57 | [Saint] | Well, nor do I. But it invalidates the results entirely. |
| 22:48:29 | [Saint] | Results that people will often use to do "hurr durr, muh narrative! hurr durr!" regarding "HD" audio and their golden ears. |
| 22:48:41 | __builtin | that applies to any ABX test where the test environment isn't totally controlled |
| 22:48:53 | __builtin | you could write an audio driver to analyze the incoming stream |
| 22:49:16 | [Saint] | The scope of things has changed. Multiple years back I could very reliably tell the difference between most lossy and lossless codecs. |
| 22:49:28 | [Saint] | These days however, it is increasingly more difficult. |
| 22:50:37 | [Saint] | I maintain I was somewhat cheating somewhat though, by listening for encoding artifacts in the LAME and OGG codecs that I knew to be present in some very specific areas. |
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| 22:51:33 | [Saint] | If someone cropped a short enough sample that didn't include any of those defects I sincerely doubt I would be able to. |
| 22:51:43 | [Saint] | But I digress... |
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