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#rockbox log for 2017-02-08

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01:21:57__builtingrr... what did I break?!
01:27:49__builtinwhy is SDL suddenly trying to initialize threads!?
01:28:00__builtin:(
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01:59:44__builtinthere we go, Abe is running on hardware :D
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02:00:03__builtinAs in: http://abe.sourceforge.net/
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05:51:29madk__builtin: are you the author of that game?
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11:56:33pamaury_I got the firmware from agptek, it seems to be based on linux
11:56:39pamaury_and uboot
11:57:38pamaury_so much closer to X1II I think
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13:43:52Bilguspamaury I just don't think multiboot is going to work in the 'correct' implementation on the clip+ I'll try some more optimization and maybe Os compile will knock off another couple bytes but 291 is a lot
13:43:57Bilgus[ERR] Packed data (134291 bytes) doesn't fit in the firmware (134008 bytes)
13:44:55pamaury_ah yeah, on ams the bootloader barely fits, it's becoming more of a problem over time
13:44:56Bilgusand I already added ! bootloader to bootdata.h since it was putting itself into the bootloader file as well
13:46:09Bilgustoo bad its one that needs it the worst!
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13:47:09wodzpamaury_: What exactly did you got from Agptek? Binary or something more?
13:47:15lebellium_z3cpamaury: which firmware version? Can you upload it somewhere?
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13:50:57pamaury_wodz: just binaries and also a "cloner" tool, I guess it's the tool used with ingenic boot rom to write to the flash. The total is quite big (~50MB). I've asked hunterloo if I can share it publicily, but he is probably sleeping now
13:51:03pamaury_it's for version 1.01Beta
13:51:41wodzpamaury_: No traces of documentation anywhere?
13:52:15Bilguswhat If I moved the rockbox bootlogo out of boot loader and into fw?
13:54:46pamaury_no, he told he can get pcb pictures and try to get more but he is unsure if he can
13:57:03wodzpamaury_: If OF is linux based we can do app port. This should be faster.
13:59:05Bilgushey thats 768 bytes
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14:00:53pamaury_wodz: that's a fair discussion to have at this point indeed. Especially since it's going to be uneasy to modify uboot. Also it uses ubifs
14:01:36pamaury_one drawback of that is that modifying the firmware upgrade will mean to read/write ubifs, I don't know if there are useful libraries for that
14:02:36pamaury_also I haven't looked at the firmware upgrade, there are a bunch of files (uboot.bin, kernel.bin, etc) and a bigger file (update.upt) that seems to contain all the others. I don't know if it's a raw flash image or if it has more structure
14:03:29wodzpamaury_: repacking ubifs can always be done though loop mounting, no?
14:03:55pamaury_only on linux, and we want to avoid redistributing binaries if possible
14:04:05pamaury_for rbutil that's impractical for example
14:08:49wodzdamn, no easy solution available apparently
14:14:23Bilgus[INFO] Total size of new image: 133729 bytes
14:14:23Bilgus So uh how could I make the dame logo take up less space or ho much push back on moving show logo to fw? ORRR can we put the logo in userland?
14:15:58wodzI vaguely remember that payload is compressed. Images usually compress much better then code
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14:18:11MihailBilgus: we already show logo in fw after init and clean lcd
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14:20:16wodzpamaury_: This might be of interest https://github.com/jrspruitt/ubi_reader
14:20:33Bilgusok so really no harm no foul if I remove it from bootloader on as3525?
14:22:56Mihailremoving logo form bootloader not very good since it will show half time
14:25:08Bilgushalf time?
14:25:41Mihailhalf time of boot (~0.5s)
14:26:15pamaury_wodz: maybe we can avoid linux totally by tweaking uboot. There is a "recovery" kernel, I have no idea what it does, maybe we can install rockbox there and change the uboot command to boot it first. Or maybe we can simply bypass uboot altogether. I need to have a look at the binary
14:26:42pamaury_If the firmware upgrade really is the raw nand image, there are plenty of options
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14:27:29wodzpamaury_: It would be 10000 faster and better to have some contact with tech guys from them
14:27:56pamaury_I'll ask him
14:28:07Bilguswell somethings gotta give if its strings, logo, or code idc but the logo seems the best candidate
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14:29:06BilgusI'd say up the delay in fw to make up for it but whhy?
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14:31:40Bilguswhat if we pull the logo out of FW image and load it into mem inside the boot loader?
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14:37:22Mihailit still not very good as it would be at last stage of bootloader (after full init and mount) and have little time to show
14:53:19Bilgussmaller logo?
14:54:16Bilgusuh less black in logo I doubt that would free up much but would make it more compressible
14:55:11Bilgusthats about all I have next is screw it the logo is more important than code/strings
14:55:30Mihailcleanup useless code? :)
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15:07:01Bilguslogo qualifies lol
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16:12:48pamaury_hum, so the update.upt file is an ISO file, roughly containing uboot, kernel and system ubifs,
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