| 00:01:14 | ComputingComet | ohh builtin is there a way to run donkey kong mame on rockbox? |
| 00:01:23 | pamaury | kfogel: most ereaders are based on linux |
| 00:01:34 | pamaury | jailbreaking seems like a better solution |
| 00:01:43 | pamaury | and there are plenty of jailbreaks for ereaders |
| 00:03:21 | kfogel | pamaury: *nod* A jailbreak isn't quite the same as running an top-to-bottom free OS, but it's a place to start anyway. Thanks. |
| 00:04:54 | pamaury | kfogel: if the devices run a linux, for which you have the source and that you can jailbreak, I don't see what non-free. You can just remove all the non-free part. Of course you still have the problem of replacing all the binary modules but that's a huge work anyway, independently of the approach |
| 00:06:17 | kfogel | pamaury: Yes. I suspect that just such a binary module is what drives the screens, so the device would be pretty useless without that work being done. I'll look into it some more; I don't have time to do much of the hacking myself, unfortuately. |
| 00:07:28 | __builtin | ComputingComet: not as far as I know |
| 00:08:02 | __builtin | we don't have a MAME port, first of all |
| 00:08:48 | __builtin | though I suppose I could port SDLMAME if it weren't for the licensing issue |
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| 00:11:05 | __builtin | wait a second... |
| 00:11:09 | __builtin | they recently relicensed |
| 00:12:29 | ComputingComet | so its possible? |
| 00:13:02 | __builtin | no, not yet at least |
| 00:13:57 | __builtin | it's all GPLv2 or later now |
| 00:14:35 | __builtin | it might be possible though |
| 00:16:36 | __builtin | hmm, it's all C++ though |
| 00:19:08 | ComputingComet | how does the packbox/pacman work |
| 00:19:09 | ComputingComet | then |
| 00:19:13 | ComputingComet | pacbox* |
| 00:19:34 | __builtin | pacbox is specialized to emulate only a pacman machine |
| 00:21:18 | ComputingComet | and its been done for dk on ipodlinux put it so old i dont use it on my ipod |
| 00:21:46 | __builtin | ipodlinux has nothing to do with rockbox |
| 00:21:56 | ComputingComet | ik |
| 00:22:02 | ComputingComet | im just saying |
| 00:22:56 | __builtin | ComputingComet: what is it that you want to do again? |
| 00:23:03 | __builtin | play Donkey Kong or run MAME? |
| 00:23:15 | ComputingComet | Donkey Kong |
| 00:26:13 | __builtin | well, you can probably find a Gameboy version of it and dump the ROM yourself ;) |
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| 00:33:28 | ComputingComet | i tried it lags to all hell |
| 00:35:32 | __builtin | what device do you have? |
| 00:35:47 | ComputingComet | ipod 5 |
| 00:35:51 | ComputingComet | ipod video |
| 00:36:35 | ComputingComet | and and a fuze |
| 00:36:36 | __builtin | that's one of the slowest devices we support, at least in terms of # of cores*CPU frequency/screen size |
| 00:36:40 | __builtin | (ipodvideo) |
| 00:37:06 | __builtin | you'll have much more luck with the fuze, I'd wager |
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| 00:50:46 | __builtin | argh great |
| 00:50:58 | __builtin | now xworld freezes up randomly |
| 00:52:42 | __builtin | and of course it only happens on target, so I can't debug without scattering a million splash()es everywhere :( |
| 00:56:23 | ComputingComet | whats xworld |
| 00:57:08 | __builtin | it's a plugin that emulates the game "Another World" |
| 00:57:40 | ComputingComet | ohh dont have it |
| 00:58:03 | __builtin | what version of rockbox are you running? |
| 00:59:05 | ComputingComet | newest |
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| 00:59:56 | __builtin | sorry, did you mean that you don't have the 'xworld' plugin, or the game 'Another World'? |
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| 01:00:05 | ComputingComet | xworld plugin |
| 01:00:25 | __builtin | hmm, that doesn't make sense then |
| 01:00:34 | __builtin | are you running the release version? |
| 01:00:41 | ComputingComet | yes |
| 01:00:55 | __builtin | that explains it... our last "release" is horribly out of date |
| 01:01:00 | ComputingComet | XD |
| 01:01:02 | ComputingComet | really |
| 01:01:09 | ComputingComet | i did it cuz stable |
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| 01:02:05 | __builtin | there's no reason for you not to run the development builds |
| 01:02:20 | | Quit ender` (Quit: History is a set of lies agreed upon. — Napoleon Bonaparte) |
| 01:02:24 | __builtin | heck, they're probably more "stable" than the release |
| 01:02:49 | __builtin | there's a bazillion bug fixes and new features that you're missing out on, too |
| 01:03:13 | __builtin | and like 30 new game plugins |
| 01:03:42 | ComputingComet | jesus im installing now |
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| 01:04:01 | ComputingComet | and installed |
| 01:04:33 | ComputingComet | so many games |
| 01:04:35 | ComputingComet | so many |
| 01:05:01 | * | __builtin apologizes |
| 01:05:10 | ComputingComet | now pacbox does not work incompatible version |
| 01:05:17 | __builtin | you need to reboot |
| 01:05:25 | ComputingComet | i did |
| 01:06:09 | ComputingComet | ill do it again |
| 01:07:02 | __builtin | are you sure? that shouldn't happen if you did |
| 01:07:32 | ComputingComet | ok it works now i cuz i fucked up reboot somehow |
| 01:08:39 | __builtin | most of the new games are my fault |
| 01:09:23 | ComputingComet | fault? |
| 01:09:50 | __builtin | actually, all of them are, I think |
| 01:10:10 | ComputingComet | so what dos files do i need for xworld |
| 01:10:56 | __builtin | would you mind helping me test if this bug I'm seeing is reproducible? |
| 01:11:04 | ComputingComet | sure |
| 01:12:31 | ComputingComet | what do i do i have the dos files for another world and out of this world |
| 01:13:10 | __builtin | extract them to /.rockbox/xworld/ |
| 01:13:21 | __builtin | create that folder if it doesn't exist |
| 01:13:29 | ComputingComet | all of them even exe |
| 01:13:42 | __builtin | you only need the MEMLIST.BIN and BANK01-BANK0D |
| 01:14:37 | ComputingComet | do i use out of this world or another world files |
| 01:14:50 | __builtin | either one will work |
| 01:15:02 | __builtin | as long as it has those files |
| 01:15:17 | ComputingComet | ok now about this error what do i need to do |
| 01:15:28 | __builtin | what error? |
| 01:15:37 | ComputingComet | i mean bug |
| 01:15:39 | ComputingComet | what bug |
| 01:15:55 | ComputingComet | and i got a string error |
| 01:15:55 | __builtin | start xworld and choose "Start New Game" |
| 01:16:04 | __builtin | that's just a warning, don't worry about it |
| 01:16:38 | ComputingComet | when i clicked start new game i get these symbols and some text |
| 01:18:00 | ComputingComet | i did the codes now its starting |
| 01:18:17 | ComputingComet | i got to title screen |
| 01:18:22 | ComputingComet | and now it breaks |
| 01:18:28 | ComputingComet | *PANIC* |
| 01:18:40 | __builtin | tell me what else it says |
| 01:19:26 | ComputingComet | incorrect CPI mode in mutex_lock (0x12!=0x1f) |
| 01:19:54 | ComputingComet | pc:00074464 sp:000007b0 |
| 01:19:59 | __builtin | ohh...... |
| 01:20:03 | __builtin | that explains a lot |
| 01:20:15 | __builtin | what device is this? |
| 01:20:22 | ComputingComet | a: 03f83318 |
| 01:20:34 | ComputingComet | ipod |
| 01:21:23 | ComputingComet | a: 03f82914 |
| 01:21:38 | ComputingComet | a: 03f929dc |
| 01:22:00 | ComputingComet | a: 03f83188 |
| 01:22:01 | ComputingComet | bt end |
| 01:22:04 | ComputingComet | thats all it says |
| 01:22:11 | __builtin | ok, thanks |
| 01:22:15 | ComputingComet | im gonna reboot now |
| 01:22:42 | ComputingComet | is there a way to make it work i wanted to platy |
| 01:22:43 | ComputingComet | play* |
| 01:23:16 | __builtin | I think I know what the problem is |
| 01:23:58 | __builtin | a recent commit added CPU mode checks to the kernel (3e73866) |
| 01:25:43 | __builtin | jhMikeS (logs): see above ^ |
| 01:25:57 | ComputingComet | ? |
| 01:26:12 | __builtin | jhMikeS is the author of that commit |
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| 01:28:01 | __builtin | that commit doesn't really "cause" the crash you're seeing, though |
| 01:28:26 | __builtin | but it just puts in sanity checks for the real issue |
| 01:28:53 | ComputingComet | whats all this sgt stuff |
| 01:29:24 | __builtin | the initials of the author of that game collection |
| 01:29:41 | __builtin | (S.G. Tatham) |
| 01:29:52 | __builtin | see http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ |
| 01:30:01 | ComputingComet | i see this game has one level |
| 01:30:16 | ComputingComet | ohh its random |
| 01:30:17 | ComputingComet | k |
| 01:30:19 | ComputingComet | im stupid |
| 01:31:29 | __builtin | ok, just checked: that commit does indeed break xworld |
| 01:32:06 | ComputingComet | when does it get into dev patch |
| 01:32:13 | __builtin | hmm? |
| 01:32:29 | ComputingComet | when will i be able to install it 2 play |
| 01:32:52 | __builtin | I can build you a version right that should work |
| 01:33:02 | ComputingComet | that would be amazing |
| 01:33:23 | __builtin | keep in mind that it's going to be slow as heck on the video |
| 01:34:12 | ComputingComet | ik |
| 01:34:23 | ComputingComet | when i get my fuze back ill be on that |
| 01:35:36 | __builtin | I actually don't have to build it... http://download.rockbox.org/daily/ipodvideo/rockbox-ipodvideo-20170120.zip should be what you need |
| 01:36:31 | ComputingComet | and just take the xworld.rock |
| 01:36:40 | __builtin | no, you need to install the whole zip |
| 01:36:44 | ComputingComet | idk what it is why |
| 01:36:58 | ComputingComet | nvm what i said |
| 01:37:00 | ComputingComet | i mean why |
| 01:37:10 | __builtin | .rocks are closely tied to the core |
| 01:37:24 | __builtin | they won't work if there's a version mismatch |
| 01:37:58 | ComputingComet | ok rebooting |
| 01:37:59 | ComputingComet | and ill brb |
| 01:38:25 | ComputingComet | idk what it is about this i have a phone i can do all this theres just something about doing this on a mp3 player thats fun not being connected to everything |
| 01:41:45 | __builtin | by the way, the real gems of sgt-puzzles, in my opinion at least, are Cube, Net, Map, and Untangle |
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| 01:43:02 | ComputingComet | it runs good actually im after the cutscene and its fine |
| 01:43:16 | __builtin | hmm, that's good |
| 01:43:59 | ComputingComet | nvm |
| 01:44:28 | Bilgus_ph | johnb2: yes it is ready, though only a firmware with boot data will boot from the sd card and for now you will still need to disable the rooot with Mihails second patch ftm |
| 01:44:30 | ComputingComet | now it just get to the code ldkd and it just keeps doing the same thing over and over again |
| 01:45:15 | __builtin | you need to swim upwards |
| 01:45:18 | ComputingComet | i am |
| 01:45:32 | ComputingComet | atleast im trying |
| 01:45:52 | __builtin | this game isn't supposed to be easy ;) |
| 01:46:17 | ComputingComet | do i scroll or click up im trying both |
| 01:46:37 | __builtin | hold MENU |
| 01:46:53 | ComputingComet | still just float down |
| 01:47:25 | ComputingComet | whats the max frame rate? |
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| 01:48:05 | __builtin | it varies, usually around 12 or so |
| 01:48:19 | ComputingComet | yeah im just a solid 12 |
| 01:48:25 | ComputingComet | have not gone to 11 |
| 01:51:54 | ComputingComet | jesus to many bug guys |
| 01:52:19 | __builtin | enjoy! :P |
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| 01:53:49 | ComputingComet | since release have you guys updated imgviewer |
| 01:57:31 | ComputingComet | nvm a |
| 01:57:38 | ComputingComet | and why does the mpegplayer not work |
| 01:59:45 | Bilgus_ph | last I knew it did |
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| 02:00:09 | ComputingComet | i tried in release and it did not work it just stayed black forever |
| 02:00:20 | Bilgus_ph | did you rename your old install and copy the new one to your device? |
| 02:00:50 | ComputingComet | ? |
| 02:01:16 | ComputingComet | no i deleted the old install |
| 02:01:39 | Bilgus_ph | or rename .rockbox to .rockbox.old then copy .rockbox from the zip file to device |
| 02:01:50 | Bilgus_ph | oh ok same difference |
| 02:02:43 | ComputingComet | every update ive tried on the release on the dev and on the dev you gave me when i try and play it i keep black screen |
| 02:02:47 | Bilgus_ph | confused you tried it in release or dev? |
| 02:04:14 | Bilgus_ph | I'm not builtin but idk either way you said It didn't work in your original install either? |
| 02:05:57 | ComputingComet | sorry was not paying attention to names ive tried it on every version dev and release im currently on and install builtin gave me that runs xworld properly |
| 02:07:34 | Bilgus_ph | i'm not sure of the particualrs of mpeg player i'd have a look at the manual it probably has limited file support (or format support) |
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| 02:11:31 | Bilgus_ph | jhMikeS I have a patch up to remove some unused fuctionality from bootloaders (O_CREAT) specifically I'm not particularly fond of the implementation atm any ideas to make it cleaner? |
| 02:16:50 | ComputingComet | beep boop |
| 02:17:04 | jhMikeS | Bilgus_ph: it's on gerrit? |
| 02:17:42 | Bilgus_ph | yea #g1560 |
| 02:17:44 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #1560 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1560 : Remove unneeded fuctionality from bootloaders by William Wilgus |
| 02:18:03 | Bilgus_ph | ill be back to my other acct in a bit |
| 02:18:07 | jhMikeS | Bilgus_ph: there is at least one bootloader that writes new files |
| 02:19:17 | Bilgus_ph | oh yea? maybe I should just focus on bootloader that won't compile anymore like the clipV1 |
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| 02:20:34 | jhMikeS | gigabeat_s can extract tar files (it's functionality that comes in handy upon first installs sometimes) |
| 02:21:38 | Bilgus_ph | I kinda wish to separate the functions to make it easier for the unused functions to be stripped I think, Without removing write It knocks off like 1k so might be enough |
| 02:21:44 | jhMikeS | the truth is though, there isn't a huge amount of code in general dedicated to creating a new file |
| 02:22:09 | Bilgus_ph | i think it was 2.5k compiled |
| 02:22:22 | __builtin | jhMikeS: I take it that certain blocking kernel functions shouldn't be called in an IRQ context, right? |
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| 02:23:17 | jhMikeS | you must've taken out way more than what I see on gerrit |
| 02:23:26 | Bilgus_ph | nope |
| 02:23:44 | jhMikeS | __builtin: never. you can poll semaphores and queues with TIMEOUT_NOBLOCK though |
| 02:24:30 | __builtin | ok, I'll fix xworld then |
| 02:24:42 | jhMikeS | __builtin: if it blocks, no ISR because a thread is the only thing that blocks |
| 02:25:17 | Bilgus_ph | fat_time and is_diacritic hits 1kb and ocreate calls create_stream_internal( which is another 2.5k |
| 02:26:52 | Bilgus_ph | thats after compression btw |
| 02:27:19 | Bilgus_ph | bbiab |
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| 02:30:12 | ComputingComet | this game is bs |
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| 02:31:29 | jhMikeS | __builtin: also fiq on arm is totally forbidden from interacting with any thread stuff. audio callbacks should never call anything thread related |
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| 02:32:32 | jhMikeS | Bilgus_ph: create_stream_internal is 2.5K? wtf |
| 02:34:11 | * | jhMikeS checked an elf for fuze v2 and it's 204 bytes |
| 02:36:50 | fs-bluebot | Build Server message: New build round started. Revision 0a9f717, 255 builds, 17 clients. |
| 02:37:06 | __builtin | alright, this last commit *should* fix xworld |
| 02:37:42 | ComputingComet | i thought you fixed it already |
| 02:38:46 | __builtin | well, that wasn't a "fix" that I gave, just an earlier version without the sanity checks |
| 02:38:49 | jhMikeS | Bilgus: I guess that + fat_create_file is 772 bytes |
| 02:38:58 | __builtin | so in a sense it was still broken, but it just didn't crash because of it |
| 02:39:16 | ComputingComet | so do i update |
| 02:39:27 | jhMikeS | Bilgus: I'd suggest reducing the number of cache buffers is you want low-hanging fruit for a bootloader |
| 02:39:49 | __builtin | ComputingComet: there won't be any visible benefit |
| 02:42:25 | ComputingComet | its having draw errors and i did not even update |
| 02:44:38 | ComputingComet | i just started new game its fine |
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| 02:46:13 | fs-bluebot | Build Server message: Revision 0a9f717 result: 2 errors 0 warnings |
| 02:48:35 | Bilgus | I'd assume they would compress pretty well though wouldn't they? |
| 02:48:48 | Bilgus | @jhMikes |
| 02:51:10 | Bilgus | on clip+ with the patch on gerrit [INFO] Bootloader size: 77508 bytes and with only the conditional on create file removed [INFO] Bootloader size: 81844 bytes |
| 02:51:21 | Bilgus | (prior to compression) |
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| 02:52:25 | Bilgus | packed: [INFO] Packed bootloader size: 43153 bytes vs [INFO] Packed bootloader size: 45721 bytes |
| 02:52:50 | __builtin | ComputingComet: what do you mean by "draw errors"? |
| 02:52:53 | ComputingComet | yes i got a laser gim |
| 02:52:55 | ComputingComet | gun* |
| 02:53:13 | Bilgus | is there something else funky going on with AMS? the clipV1 is even more |
| 02:53:30 | __builtin | amiconn: http://build.rockbox.org/shownewlog.cgi?rev=0a9f717;type=sansac200v2sim |
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| 02:56:58 | jhMikeS | Bilgus: it's just the image size that matters? not the bss section too? |
| 02:58:52 | Bilgus | Well I assume we have the whole ram minus the dual-boot function & UCL unpack function |
| 02:58:52 | Bilgus | s which is like 300 bytes so no its just the image size that is the issue |
| 02:58:59 | jhMikeS | btw, they'll compress to 0 because bss isn't actually part of the image itself |
| 02:59:12 | Bilgus | figure we compress the OF and what is left is the room we have for RB |
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| 03:02:36 | Bilgus | figure its not just Create file its, also create_stream_internal and what ever ancillary functions those two call as well |
| 03:03:07 | jhMikeS | perhaps just direct the bootloader config to not define O_CREAT in fcntl.h and then it would error on any attempt to use it |
| 03:03:31 | Bilgus | I'm thinking maybe a separate file handling implementation for boot loader would be the cleanest |
| 03:04:30 | Bilgus | sure that would be inline with what I have atm undef O_CREATE but as you were saying there are targets that do create files |
| 03:04:34 | jhMikeS | nontrivial and a pita to keep maintained in step |
| 03:04:47 | Bilgus | Ikr lol |
| 03:05:00 | jhMikeS | Bilgus: keep it in the target's config. most aren't that tight. some don't matter at all |
| 03:05:50 | Bilgus | ok so do something like NO_O_CREAT_BOOTLOADER |
| 03:05:55 | jhMikeS | if some other thing is defined, then block #define O_CREAT |
| 03:06:40 | Bilgus | just blocking O_CREAT won't do it ill have to still ifdef out the actual routine but sounds good |
| 03:07:21 | jhMikeS | or maybe FILESYS_CONFIG_LEAN ? block rename(), all create and write functionality, and some other functions that are likely unneeded |
| 03:07:54 | jhMikeS | oh, mkdir(). maybe even don't include dir functions at all? |
| 03:08:03 | __builtin | "ROCKBOX_LEAN_AND_MEAN" |
| 03:08:21 | jhMikeS | a la WIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN ? |
| 03:08:36 | Bilgus | Mkdir gets removed as unused code so not a big deal there |
| 03:08:55 | jhMikeS | do you use ffunction-sections? |
| 03:09:20 | Bilgus | I didn't look in the default make file |
| 03:10:27 | Bilgus | ill try it and see IDK though since its technically in a function not standalone |
| 03:11:24 | jhMikeS | we should probably use that anyway. I think the reason it wasn't was before eabi, it would generate long calls. that may no longer be the case |
| 03:12:52 | jhMikeS | hmmm...looks like it is there for a bootloader build |
| 03:13:58 | Bilgus | yep EXTRA_DEFINES |
| 03:14:48 | Bilgus | the problem is that create is in with open so its a valid codepath |
| 03:16:08 | jhMikeS | define O_CREAT as 0 and it will be optimized out |
| 03:16:19 | Bilgus | really? |
| 03:17:39 | jhMikeS | I guess FF_CREAT too. if the code is unreachable the compiler will remove it |
| 03:20:08 | Bilgus | yep nice that makes it cleaner :) |
| 03:20:59 | Bilgus | so maybe activate it with BOOTLOADER_READ_ONLY_FS |
| 03:22:26 | Bilgus | well I guess thats not true |
| 03:22:57 | jhMikeS | should probably dump FF_CREAT and FF_EXCL anyway. they don't get stored and they aren't used in deep code. they were just put there to pass flags in a single parameter. doing that would give me a couple bits back for other functions |
| 03:22:59 | Bilgus | If we removed all file write functions it would be |
| 03:24:04 | jhMikeS | if you aren't calling the write functions I guess the -ffunction-sections will dump them anyway |
| 03:24:27 | Bilgus | yeah as long as they are separate.. |
| 03:26:02 | jhMikeS | I was going to change it for you so there's only O_CREAT to worry about. I don't need the other junk. |
| 03:26:57 | Bilgus | sounds logical |
| 03:30:28 | Bilgus | in that case i'll do separate commits for each |
| 03:31:03 | * | jhMikeS was just going to edit it up to pass oflag straight to the inner function |
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| 03:34:16 | Bilgus | sounds good but I'll put it on your commit and the other on main |
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| 04:00:23 | jhMikeS | Bilgus: pushed it to g1561 for the moment |
| 04:00:24 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #1561 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1561 : Remove FF_CREAT and FF_EXCL flags in from file code. by Michael Sevakis |
| 04:00:36 | Bilgus | cool thanks |
| 04:14:28 | Bilgus | worked perfectly |
| 04:15:17 | Bilgus | clip v1 fits in the fw file again and should be enough left over to allow me to do external boot + bootdata in it |
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| 06:42:54 | TheEaterOfSouls | Hey guys, not sure what commit might've caused this as I haven't updated since August when the new USB driver was introduced but I just installed the latest build on my Clip Zip and both FLAC and MP3 randomly skip when playing (both on internal and external storage). Anyone else having this issue? |
| 06:51:38 | fs-bluebot | Build Server message: New build round started. Revision dc22522, 255 builds, 17 clients. |
| 06:52:23 | [Saint] | TheEaterOfSouls: can you verify this with a clean config? |
| 06:53:03 | TheEaterOfSouls | I will do so |
| 06:53:26 | [Saint] | Please backup your config to config.cfg.bak and then remove the original, and tell me if you can reproduce. |
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| 07:00:29 | TheEaterOfSouls | Didn't bother backing it up haha but I am no longer having the issue, sorry. |
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| 07:01:43 | fs-bluebot | Build Server message: Revision dc22522 result: 4 errors 0 warnings |
| 07:10:41 | [Saint] | TheEaterOfSouls: damn, that's mildly annoying. |
| 07:10:56 | [Saint] | If you can get it to happen again...I would appreciate seeing the config. |
| 07:11:15 | [Saint] | I mean, I'm happy your issue is fixed, but I would love to have known the trigger. |
| 07:11:45 | TheEaterOfSouls | I will change settings back one by one and let you know if it happens. |
| 07:12:37 | TheEaterOfSouls | I guess I just assumed something to do with config handling was changed, I haven't looked at all of the commits since August lol. |
| 07:16:10 | [Saint] | That would be several hundred. |
| 07:18:28 | TheEaterOfSouls | Yes. |
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| 08:01:40 | amiconn | __builtin: Fixed (hopefully) |
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| 10:55:21 | clipzip | http://themes.rockbox.org is down? |
| 10:56:34 | [Saint] | If you can't get to it...yes. |
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| 11:06:17 | clipzip | strange, because https://www.rockbox.org/ is working |
| 11:06:34 | [Saint] | Not particular. |
| 11:06:39 | [Saint] | Different servers. |
| 11:07:00 | [Saint] | You'll likely find the forums down too. |
| 11:07:13 | [Saint] | If they're not, then there's some weird shit going on. |
| 11:07:30 | clipzip | they are down too |
| 11:07:33 | clipzip | thanks for the information |
| 11:07:43 | [Saint] | de nada. |
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| 11:39:18 | dongs | themes.rockbox.org took too long to respond |
| 11:39:20 | dongs | failured. |
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| 12:05:56 | pamaury | Bilgus: I've seen you work to reduce bootloader size. I am not sure I'm a big fan of it, especially removing nontrivial functionality like file writing. It's quite error-prone and obscure |
| 12:11:33 | [Saint] | yeah, in my opinion you need a _damn_ good reason to touch bootloaders. |
| 12:11:59 | [Saint] | especially when neither size nor boot time is an active concern. |
| 12:13:47 | pamaury | well size is a concern on the clipv1 apparently |
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| 12:15:05 | pamaury | the question is: is it worth adding to the ifdef hell even more just to add this functionality to the clipv1 ? It's an old target now, I know people love it but that's a race that will eventually be lost, the bootloader size is only ever increasing over time and we are already a few bytes away from the maximum on those targets |
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| 14:21:41 | Bilgus | actually the clipV1 won't compile bootloader at head |
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| 14:30:55 | Bilgus | oh and a slow AF dump of the themes site https://www-drv.com/site/0omecwmaks86mo8wk4eh0w/Rockbox_theme_dump/themes.rockbox.org/ |
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| 14:42:27 | Bilgus | @ Pamaury the other options I thought of were a separate file handling routine for bootloader or splitting open( into standalone functions, the former as jhMikeS pointed out makes upkeep a pita, and the latter strays away from posix. Plus I'm sure it isn't just the clipV1 that won't compile bootloader at head |
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| 18:52:39 | billyogat | im getting an ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT on both themes.rockbox.org and forums.rockbox.org. has anyone else noticed this? |
| 18:58:40 | billyogat | well, they are working now |
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| 22:33:07 | Bilgus | jhMikeS, Pamaury: see what you think about this g#1563 |
| 22:33:08 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #1563 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1563 : Remove O_CREAT codepath when O_RDONLY is the specified open argument by William Wilgus |
| 22:34:43 | pamaury | Bilgus: see with jhMikeS, does that actually save anything ? the compiler would need to do global optimization to notice |
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| 22:49:44 | dys | pamaury: trying to get FWIMAGE −−descramble-> −−bfin_boot-> ELF −−adi-ldr-> −−scramble-> FWIMAGE to work |
| 22:50:08 | dys | looks like the ldr tool expects symbols dxe_init_start and dxe_init_end, otherwise it won't generate INIT blocks |
| 22:51:59 | pamaury | dys: it almost certainly won't work |
| 22:52:20 | pamaury | an ELF file cannot really encode a DXE perfectly (at least not in general) |
| 22:52:40 | dys | i guess that's where the magic symbols come in? |
| 22:52:57 | pamaury | what we usually do is that we write a patching tool that takes a fwimage and modifies it directly |
| 22:53:09 | pamaury | so that you don't take the risk of loosing any information |
| 22:53:20 | dys | I see |
| 22:55:38 | pamaury | how do you plan to patch the firmware ? |
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| 22:56:24 | dys | there's a TEST/CALIBRATION tool you can boot into with a secret key combo |
| 22:56:48 | dys | I could clobber it with my own code, I guess |
| 22:57:04 | pamaury | is it in it's own elf ? ie is it a separate DXE ? |
| 22:57:13 | dys | no, it's part of the big elf |
| 22:58:03 | pamaury | ah, that makes it more tricky, especially since the address can change with every firmware |
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| 23:00:09 | pamaury | you could also simply add more code to the binary (at the end of the big DXE) and patch one jump in the test/calibration tool to jump to it ? That can work if the OF jumps early to this code and doesn't overwrite this added code |
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| 23:02:58 | dys | injecting a second init DXE between the original init DXE and the application DXE might also be an option |
| 23:03:33 | dys | that way we get DRAM and stack initialized and can boot into the application by simply returning to the boot rom |
| 23:03:54 | pamaury | yeah but you take the risk of bricking if your code does not return to boot rom for some reason |
| 23:04:20 | pamaury | do you have a simple way to overwrite the flash ? |
| 23:05:25 | dys | my only attempt at it resulted in a bricked unit… maybe i'll take the noleads flash off with hot air on the bricked unit and trying to flash it out-of-circuit |
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| 23:11:36 | dys | If I can resurrect it, it might make a great prototyping jig |
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| 23:24:05 | lebellium | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51664.msg239123/topicseen.html#msg239123 |
| 23:24:10 | lebellium | thank you Vortex... |
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| 23:27:49 | lebellium | He wanted his own paypal button |
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| 23:32:43 | __builtin | lebellium: hmm? |
| 23:33:08 | Bilgus_ph | Pamaury & jhMikeS it allows the compiler to optimize it out but unfortunately is not in compliance with Posix so disregard :/ |
| 23:36:20 | lebellium | __builtin: if you didn't follow the story, you should start reading http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51139.0.html |
| 23:36:57 | lebellium | they guy understood the whole spirit of rockbox |
| 23:37:02 | lebellium | ... |
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