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| 10:40:31 | jhMikeS | evert: my first thought is that it's possibly a bad block in the flash |
| 10:41:30 | evert | jhMikeS: would using a micro SD card fix the issue? Not sure where/what it is trying to write |
| 10:42:42 | jhMikeS | that error is in fat.c and it failed to write back a dirty cached sector |
| 10:43:34 | jhMikeS | SD card may fix some of it but there's still information written to the volume .rockbox is on |
| 10:45:34 | jhMikeS | the storage driver told the FS driver that it failed, fat.c line 367 |
| 10:46:37 | jhMikeS | might try to scan it and mark for bad blocks |
| 10:48:47 | evert | thanks, I'll try that first |
| 10:53:28 | jhMikeS | what is the volume size? |
| 10:53:59 | evert | 8gb, it seems the storage is broken indeed |
| 10:56:25 | jhMikeS | okay, that sector number is near the beginning then |
| 10:57:00 | evert | badblocks was giving a lot of sectors already |
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| 11:11:28 | Lord_XetroV | hi |
| 11:11:40 | Lord_XetroV | i have my old iPod Classic 6G 120GB |
| 11:12:01 | Lord_XetroV | i once used very early version of rockbox on it, and it seemed to remove EU volume limiter |
| 11:13:03 | Lord_XetroV | so it's firmware limitation, not hardware like some ppl claimed |
| 11:13:38 | gevaerts | Technically it's a featue, not a limitation :) |
| 11:16:12 | Lord_XetroV | gevaerts, in the past all iPod classic devices sold in European Union territory had to have mandatory volume limitation to prevent hearing damage or some other excuse they made up |
| 11:16:41 | Lord_XetroV | many people claimed that in 6G model this limitation is hardware and impossible to remove |
| 11:17:02 | Lord_XetroV | but as i flashed rockbox firmware on my 6G it worked without volume limit |
| 11:17:09 | Lord_XetroV | so im 100% sure it's firmware limit |
| 11:18:26 | gevaerts | Well yes, it's a firmware limit, but not a firmware limitation |
| 11:18:36 | * | gevaerts likes semantic pedantry :) |
| 11:22:18 | Lord_XetroV | okay |
| 11:22:34 | Lord_XetroV | i forgot how to flash rockbox on iPod Classic 6G though |
| 11:22:45 | Lord_XetroV | tomorrow im going to Egypt via plane |
| 11:23:05 | Lord_XetroV | and i can't use smartphone in plane, so i need to put all my psytrance music on iPod Classic to listen |
| 11:23:35 | Lord_XetroV | i need to flash rockbox asap |
| 11:23:38 | Lord_XetroV | lol |
| 11:27:14 | gevaerts | I believe https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodClassicPort is the best place to start, but I don't have a Classic myself so I don't know the details |
| 11:28:01 | gevaerts | I think these days the beta bootloader mentioned there is the one to use, not the "old |
| 11:28:22 | gevaerts | " emcore way, which while working does a bit too much for simple rockbox use |
| 11:28:33 | Lord_XetroV | yes, i remember that automatic option didn't work with classic 6G |
| 11:41:02 | Lord_XetroV | okay, apparently firstly i have to install itunes (hate it) |
| 11:43:24 | Lord_XetroV | have to reboot |
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| 11:58:10 | Lord_XetroV | ok gevaerts |
| 11:58:11 | Lord_XetroV | it's working |
| 11:58:12 | Lord_XetroV | thanks a lot |
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| 12:07:15 | Lord_XetroV | not sure if rockbox supports flac so im converting all to cbr 320 kbps mp3s for my ipod |
| 12:07:25 | Lord_XetroV | i dont have time for experiments now sadly, lol |
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| 12:10:08 | copper | Rockbox supports FLAC |
| 12:10:45 | Lord_XetroV | cool |
| 12:11:07 | Lord_XetroV | but i wont notice any difference on my ipod between flac and mp3 cbr 320 kbps anyway |
| 12:11:15 | Lord_XetroV | and i can fit more songs in mp3 |
| 12:11:16 | copper | sure |
| 12:12:07 | gevaerts | I suspect you might get better battery runtime with mp3 on a device with fast cpu and spinning disk as well |
| 12:12:15 | copper | https://files.freemyipod.org/~user890104/bootloader-ipodclassic.html |
| 12:12:21 | copper | I don't think you need iTunes |
| 12:12:29 | copper | in fact, I think you need to NOT have iTunes running |
| 12:12:52 | Lord_XetroV | yes |
| 12:13:03 | Lord_XetroV | but i needed to install itunes so it would install drivers for ipod classic 6g |
| 12:13:16 | Lord_XetroV | otherwise rockbox utility didnt detect drive letter |
| 12:14:18 | copper | gevaerts: IIRC FLAC is much faster and overall less taxing on the battery |
| 12:15:20 | copper | even though files are larger |
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| 12:15:37 | copper | (and thus more I/O intensive) |
| 12:18:33 | gevaerts | copper: yes, but I'd expect both to be nearly negligible on a fast CPU like the one in the classic, which would make the I/O cost dominate |
| 12:18:44 | gevaerts | And spinning up a disk really eats power |
| 12:18:54 | gevaerts | I could easily be wrong :) |
| 12:19:01 | copper | sadly I no longer have my battery benchmark results |
| 12:19:11 | copper | I did a bunch of them a while ago |
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| 12:20:49 | Lord_XetroV | flac encoded with -8 compression level is more cpu draining |
| 12:20:58 | Lord_XetroV | than mp3 |
| 12:21:06 | copper | doubtful |
| 12:21:28 | gevaerts | Not doubtful. Just wrong :) |
| 12:21:29 | copper | -8 makes encoding slower, but makes decoding only marginally slower |
| 12:21:32 | gevaerts | https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecPerformanceComparison#iPod_Classic_40ARM926EJ_45S_41 |
| 12:22:14 | gevaerts | Decoding flac -8 takes 8MHz on the Classic CPU. mp3 takes 20 to 30 MHz depending on bitrate |
| 12:23:14 | Lord_XetroV | well |
| 12:23:21 | Lord_XetroV | i hope they have european power sockets in Egypt |
| 12:23:22 | Lord_XetroV | lol |
| 12:25:46 | Lord_XetroV | i filled almost 90 GB already with psytrance mp3s |
| 12:26:00 | Lord_XetroV | on ipod |
| 12:26:19 | copper | That's a lot of psytrance! |
| 12:26:33 | Lord_XetroV | generally on my HDDs i have over 14 TB |
| 12:26:35 | Lord_XetroV | of music |
| 12:26:44 | copper | wtf |
| 12:26:51 | Lord_XetroV | im collector |
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| 12:28:41 | Lord_XetroV | flac rips from private trackers on separate HDDs |
| 12:28:53 | Lord_XetroV | and warez scene releases on separate HDDs |
| 12:28:54 | Lord_XetroV | lolz |
| 12:29:14 | copper | rest in peace, What.cd |
| 12:29:21 | Lord_XetroV | yeah what.cd was good |
| 12:29:28 | Lord_XetroV | now redacted, rutracker, apollo |
| 12:29:35 | Lord_XetroV | and p2p programs like soulseek |
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| 12:30:13 | Lord_XetroV | DC++ private hubs & topsites for scene releases |
| 12:31:06 | Lord_XetroV | and other private places |
| 12:35:30 | Lord_XetroV | nowadays most people dont even bother to download music |
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| 12:35:41 | Lord_XetroV | because spotify exists and they can stream music |
| 12:35:46 | Lord_XetroV | but im oldschool and i like to collect |
| 12:35:47 | Lord_XetroV | lol |
| 12:37:20 | Lord_XetroV | i hate streaming to be honest |
| 12:37:38 | Lord_XetroV | i like to own files on my HDDs |
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| 13:59:53 | Lord_XetroV | gevaerts, i connected my iPhone Classic 6G to charger of LG G3 android smartphone |
| 13:59:56 | Lord_XetroV | and it seems to work |
| 13:59:59 | Lord_XetroV | battery is charging |
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| 14:00:00 | Lord_XetroV | lol |
| 14:00:19 | Lord_XetroV | iPod * i mean |
| 14:00:25 | Lord_XetroV | i lost original charger of it |
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| 14:10:32 | Bapt_ | Hello there! |
| 14:11:28 | Bapt_ | I'm looking for help with a newly iFlash switch iPod Video 5,5G, using a 128 GB SD card, along with Rockbox 3,14 |
| 14:12:01 | Lord_XetroV | hehe Bapt_ |
| 14:12:11 | Lord_XetroV | i have just flashed rockbox to my iPod Classic 6G |
| 14:12:12 | Bapt_ | switched* |
| 14:12:16 | Lord_XetroV | but idk about 5,5G |
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| 14:13:47 | Bapt_ | oh okay, does it work well for you? |
| 14:13:52 | Lord_XetroV | yes |
| 14:14:03 | Lord_XetroV | it also removed european volume limit |
| 14:14:11 | Bapt_ | Because with mine, some albums run flawlessly, and other put the iPod into a deep lag which is no fun |
| 14:14:14 | Lord_XetroV | which was in all iPod Classics sold in EU |
| 14:14:37 | Lord_XetroV | ah, i had this problem |
| 14:15:00 | Lord_XetroV | on some songs iPod is lagging but in my case it's because too large .jpg covers were embadded into flac/mp3 files |
| 14:15:23 | Lord_XetroV | use mp3tag to remove covers or change their size to 500x500 px |
| 14:15:25 | Lord_XetroV | and check |
| 14:15:29 | Bapt_ | nice information!! i'll check that :o |
| 14:16:00 | Bapt_ | also, I prefer to transfer files when iPod is in original firmware USB mode |
| 14:16:11 | Bapt_ | Rockbox USB mode seems buggued |
| 14:16:41 | Lord_XetroV | my iPod Classic 6G was unused for years, but tomorrow im going to Egypt and i won't be able to use my smartphone in a plane to listen to music |
| 14:16:48 | Lord_XetroV | you know, you have to turn off your phone in a plane |
| 14:17:03 | Lord_XetroV | so i grabbed my old iPod and flashed rockbox |
| 14:17:55 | Bapt_ | I had the 6G before, but sold it for 170 euros, and got a 5,5 brand new in box without headphones though for 35 euros, people can sell that one for 100/200 sometimes 500 if all very new! |
| 14:18:26 | Lord_XetroV | nice |
| 14:18:39 | Lord_XetroV | i would stick to original apple firmware IF not that stupid european union volume limit |
| 14:18:42 | Lord_XetroV | lol |
| 14:18:58 | Lord_XetroV | i like to listen to my music loud so i hate this volume limitter |
| 14:19:11 | Lord_XetroV | it's embadded in apple's firmware |
| 14:19:50 | * | gevaerts doesn't really believe the USB stack being buggy |
| 14:19:54 | gevaerts | The disk driver, sure... |
| 14:20:00 | Bapt_ | I don't think mine has a limit with original firmware, it's very powerful |
| 14:20:16 | Lord_XetroV | if you bought it in UK or USA then you don't have volume limit |
| 14:20:25 | Bapt_ | anyway I hated the 6G because the soundchip is really awful |
| 14:20:26 | Lord_XetroV | but if you got it from some EU country then you will have limit |
| 14:20:40 | Bapt_ | where are you from? |
| 14:20:47 | Lord_XetroV | im from Poland |
| 14:21:03 | Bapt_ | and I guess you listen to Iron Maiden |
| 14:21:26 | Lord_XetroV | yeah, i still listen to their old albums sometimes |
| 14:21:32 | Lord_XetroV | i listened to metal for many years |
| 14:21:44 | Lord_XetroV | but now im more into underground electronic music |
| 14:21:44 | Bapt_ | GEVAerts, what do you mean? |
| 14:21:51 | Lord_XetroV | such as psytrance |
| 14:22:10 | Bapt_ | anyway, LordXetroV, you were right!!! |
| 14:22:23 | Bapt_ | the artwork in my first album is 3000*3000 large |
| 14:22:30 | Bapt_ | I guess the iPod doesn't like that |
| 14:22:44 | Lord_XetroV | yeah, takes too long time to decode picture and it's lagging |
| 14:23:03 | Lord_XetroV | change size o 500x500 and it should be okay |
| 14:23:06 | Bapt_ | let's modify all of this today lol! |
| 14:23:12 | gevaerts | Bapt_: I mean I'm not aware of any issues with the USB stack, but I do know that many people have issues with flash adapters and rockbox |
| 14:23:33 | Bapt_ | time to grab food... I'll love to come to Poland soon! there's a apple unofficial museum near warsem that's just opened |
| 14:24:21 | Bapt_ | Which issues do you know about? In fact the issue I'm having were somehow present with the original HDD |
| 14:24:36 | Bapt_ | warsaw* |
| 14:27:09 | Lord_XetroV | i just flashed it ~1 hour ago or so, didn't test carefully yet |
| 14:27:44 | Lord_XetroV | but so far it's good for me, i only need it to listen to my musick in a plane, lol |
| 14:28:20 | Lord_XetroV | i bought my iPod Classic 6G in 2009 or 2008 (don't remember) and it was unused for years |
| 14:28:23 | Lord_XetroV | covered in dust on attic |
| 14:28:25 | Lord_XetroV | lol |
| 14:30:05 | Lord_XetroV | i just cleaned it with distilled water (because it was yellow from nicotine) and flashed rockbox |
| 14:30:06 | Lord_XetroV | haha |
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| 14:48:55 | Bilgus | evert, you would be the perfect case for the Multiboot Firmware |
| 14:50:58 | evert | Bilgus: a quick search does not reveal what it is? |
| 14:52:43 | Bilgus | https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bt7aow95pwlo8/MultiBoot_Bootloaders you'll need clppa_Mboot and whatever is the newest multiboot fw for the clip+ |
| 14:53:43 | Bilgus | Its still a work in progress but the bootloader part is good so even if you want to use the old firmware its still able to boot a sdcard once the flash is mostly dead |
| 14:53:50 | Bilgus | or you know start using it now and save whats left of your flash |
| 14:54:37 | evert | Bilgus: so it will enable me to put rockbox on the micro sd card? |
| 14:54:49 | Bilgus | yep |
| 14:55:16 | evert | the boot firmware is on the same flash memory that's acting up now, or is it seperated? |
| 14:56:46 | Bilgus | well it is and isn't it's in its own portion of it |
| 14:56:54 | Bilgus | as always a risk but should have a lot less writes than the rest of the thing |
| 14:57:30 | evert | could you point me towards some documentation how to proceed if I want to give it a try? |
| 14:57:47 | Bilgus | like maybe copy it on and check crc before you reboot it |
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| 15:00:51 | Bilgus | its the same as putting on a bootloader take the file INSIDE clppa_mboot.zip (the .bin) place it in the player root as clppa.bin and reboot |
| 15:01:52 | Bilgus | as far as the sdcard you'll need the multiboot firmware and you just unzip that to the root of the sdcard and if it doesn't exist it'll boot the fw fromn internal flash like always |
| 15:04:29 | duo8 | is the sony e470 rockbox capable? |
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| 15:41:27 | duo8 | does rockbox work with CF adapters/ |
| 15:44:34 | Bilgus | some* |
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| 18:53:03 | johnb3 | Bilgus: evert: I believe you forgot to mention that you need a file "rockbox.clip+" in the root dir of the SD. |
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| 20:03:43 | Lord_XetroV | itunes suck |
| 20:03:50 | Lord_XetroV | my iPod 6G was connected to PC because it was charging |
| 20:04:05 | Lord_XetroV | and itunes removed rockbox firmware that i flashed and it restored original apple's firmware WITHOUT ASKING ME |
| 20:05:39 | Lord_XetroV | im gonna flash again |
| 20:05:45 | Lord_XetroV | and then i disconnect ipod and i will remove itunes |
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| 20:47:05 | __builtin | Lord_XetroV: hmm, are you using the rockbox bootloader? |
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| 20:57:10 | Lord_XetroV | yes |
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| 21:07:19 | __builtin | hmm, you have accidentally entered OF from the bootloader then |
| 21:07:23 | __builtin | *may have |
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| 21:20:13 | SPLESH_2015 | ok got the photos of NWZ-A35 board but where is the best place to upload them? |
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| 21:23:42 | SPLESH_2015 | https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B35SkSKx9dTyWWg2a0JKd2tLaDg |
| 21:24:43 | __builtin | the wiki |
| 21:25:26 | SPLESH_2015 | is there a page for that player or I have to create one |
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| 21:33:51 | __builtin | I'm not sure, you may have to create it |
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| 21:44:03 | SPLESH_2015 | ok I registered on wiki my login is SergeyErmolaev for now I can not create topics on wiki |
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| 21:48:14 | Huntereb | Hey! I obtained a Sansa Fuze+ from my grandmother who was tricked into purchasing one from a "traveling salesman"(?) or something a while back, and she had no use for it. I installed rockbox on it immediately because I knew the Sansa line was well supported, and I do indeed like the level of configuration available. Other than a few crashes I've experienced, and getting used to some odd controls, the software works fantastically! |
| 21:49:31 | Huntereb | Soooo, I have two questions. 1. theme recommendations? Anyone know of some themes that are just stunning and very good for daily-driver use? And 2. Is there by chance an aoption to make fonts black-on-white for backgrounds with a mix of dark and light? Text can be hard to read sometimes... |
| 21:51:28 | Huntereb | Oh and maybe another... The touchpad is awful, I used it realistically at work to listen to a podcast for the first time today, and that was the most annoying thing ever. Is it possible to make the "lock buttons" command that the power button on top issues only affect the touchpad so I can control volume still with it active? The touchpad is very heavily responsive and can often detect my body through my pants! |
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| 22:04:45 | __builtin | Huntereb: it should be possible to change font colors, let me check |
| 22:05:43 | Huntereb | But are font borders possible? A different color would suffice, but black-on-white bordered would be ideal and universal. |
| 22:05:45 | __builtin | yeah, Theme Settings > Colors |
| 22:06:40 | __builtin | as for borders, I don't believe so |
| 22:07:08 | __builtin | our fonts are all bitmaps, which makes nearly impossible to draw them with a border |
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| 22:09:57 | Huntereb | I figured... That's unfortunate. I'll see about finding a color that doesn't blend and won't look too off-putting. As for my request on the functionality of locking, is there any configuration surrounding that behavior, or would I have to go about modifying source code to make it work how I want? |
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| 22:10:11 | __builtin | there might be |
| 22:10:49 | __builtin | so you want to control volume while locked? |
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| 22:14:00 | Huntereb | Yeah |
| 22:15:13 | Huntereb | Because the touchpad controls are disgusting so I'll have it locked almost always in my pocket to avoid interupting playback, and I have to unlock it to control volume and sometimes the touchpad will get triggered as soon as I unlock it and start working on its own :/ |
| 22:21:58 | __builtin | Bilgus was working on a similar thing a while ago, but it was limited to backlight control afaik |
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| 22:24:01 | Huntereb | Is it possible then to rebind keys to specific functions through configuration then? Eg, the "power button" to disabling the touchpad alone? I'm completely new to this software, getting a feel for its built-in capabilities. |
| 22:24:44 | Huntereb | Otherwise if Bilgus has an idea of something similar to what I want to achieve I'm all ears. |
| 22:26:24 | __builtin | hmm, actually it looks like it does exist |
| 22:26:53 | __builtin | "Selective Screen Lock" |
| 22:29:30 | Huntereb | Oh? Really! Is there documentation on this? |
| 22:29:43 | __builtin | yes, our fine manual |
| 22:29:45 | __builtin | https://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansafuzeplus.pdf |
| 22:32:34 | Huntereb | Jeeze, I'm sorry, I should have done research myself instead of bugging you... Thank you so much for the help though, __builtin! |
| 22:33:10 | __builtin | oh no, don't get me wrong, I'm glad to help! :) |
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| 22:40:37 | Huntereb | Works exactly as I wanted it to behave now, __builtin! Woohoo! The amount of configuration options available on Rockbox impresses me once again! |
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| 22:41:07 | __builtin | good to hear :) |
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| 22:46:31 | Bilgus | yeah Selective screen Lock was inspired by the infernal Fuze+ touchpad! |
| 22:47:29 | Bilgus | JohnB3 I helped him in PM but I'll make a forum post tonight outlining the steps for the future |
| 22:47:39 | * | __builtin has never wanted to torture himself, so he doesn't have a Fuze+ :) |
| 22:48:31 | Bilgus | well it was the last sansa I found to RB at a reasonable price so I figured i'd tweak it |
| 22:49:41 | Bilgus | Its really not too bad now after you tweak the sensitivity and I did a little patch to change the size of the touch square makes it almost perfect but I still prefer my clip+ |
| 22:51:14 | Huntereb | Bilgus makes sense! And pretty funny to hear that's the inspiration haha |
| 22:51:35 | Huntereb | I got this thing free like I said, I welcome a device to replace blowing up my phone battery during work, though. |
| 22:52:09 | Huntereb | Hopefully it won't die quickly like I hear some people say the sansa line can tend to do with flash memory... Also, the battery is soldered! ;( |
| 22:53:09 | Huntereb | But it also looks like an easy thing to detach and re-apply. Oh, and the plastic scratches very easily I noticed but I'm not really unhappy as scratches are expected on a fully plastic device, and in my work environment... |
| 22:53:36 | Bilgus | Its a very nice player really but It needs a damn case with a clip the battery seems quite good 20+ hrs last I checked |
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| 22:53:57 | __builtin | try to protect the screen from excessive pressure, I cracked two e200 screens that way |
| 22:54:31 | Huntereb | Yikes... I wouldn't like the screen completely gone, but I won't sweat scratches on it as long as it's still readable. |
| 22:54:37 | Bilgus | you can install the Multiboot bootloader too and run it from the SD card if you like I'll put up a compiled version for it as well |
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| 22:55:37 | Bilgus | screen completely gone? |
| 22:55:45 | Huntereb | I do mainly use the SD card... But doesn't the device boot from internal memory already? Is there a benefit to that besides possibly increasing the lifespan of the flash chip by only booting and doing nothing else with it? |
| 22:56:12 | Huntereb | And "screen completely gone" as in what __builtin said about his screens breaking! :x |
| 22:56:49 | Bilgus | thats about it but if you put the Multiboot BL on there now it'll already be there if it starts getting flaky |
| 22:58:06 | Huntereb | So wait, does the device have a memory reserved exclusively for firmware or is it just another partition of the main flash chip? |
| 22:58:39 | Huntereb | Otherwise, what's the benefit of having the multiboot bootloader if the internal memory dies? |
| 22:58:47 | Bilgus | I don't remember the last time I compiled the BL for the fuze+ so I'll re-compile it along with a current FW tonight and put it in the forum |
| 22:59:09 | Huntereb | Awesome! |
| 22:59:41 | Bilgus | well its a hidden partition but if it starts getting flaky you can stop reading and writing to it and use only the SD card |
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| 23:00:42 | Bilgus | main issue is that once its going you are probably not going to be able to put the new bootloader on there so its better if its already there |
| 23:03:08 | Huntereb | Oh, so you're saying that if the flash memory dies, it generally goes the way of not allowing writes instead of all-out dying. |
| 23:03:13 | __builtin | yeah, both their screens are totally dead |
| 23:03:42 | Huntereb | If that's the case then I'd totally be down for installing it... Do I have to use the OFW to install the new bootloader like I did originally? |
| 23:05:57 | Bilgus | yeah same thing |
| 23:06:49 | Bilgus | I'll write up a forum post about it tonight |
| 23:08:30 | Huntereb | Alright, link me here and mention me! Thanks a whole bunch for all the info and help, I wanna try my best to like this device lol |
| 23:09:52 | Huntereb | Oh, and Bilgus... What's the best touchpad sensitivity setting? |
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| 23:32:03 | mendelmunkis | Given a fuze+ battery so badly drained that i cant get the bootloader should it be possible to jumpstart from another fuze+ |
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| 23:35:13 | Huntereb | mendelmunkis you can't charge it? What's the situation? |
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| 23:39:18 | mendelmunkis | https://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20170626 |
| 23:40:52 | mendelmunkis | I cant get any signs of life from it |
| 23:42:34 | Huntereb | Damn, that's unfortunate. As they said, I highly doubt it's the charger as the device would pull as much power as it needs, not an over-abundance. Maybe the battery just finally gave out? |
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| 23:42:53 | Huntereb | Would be worth testing with another fuze+ battery if you have one |
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| 23:45:05 | mendelmunkis | what would happen if you plugged it in w/o battery? |
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| 23:47:05 | Huntereb | Probably nothing, the circuit would probably be incomplete. You can try it, though. |
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| 23:47:35 | mendelmunkis | what about hooking up another battery inline? |
| 23:47:51 | mendelmunkis | as in lin up the wires and overlay it |
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| 23:52:27 | Huntereb | Uncertain. Although I wish I was, I'm no expert on how general pieces of hardware handle batteries. I'd advise against it and just trying a single one. |
| 23:53:34 | Huntereb | From what I've seen it's only two small points to solder and put back, if you're capable of removing them I don't see the problem with trying to replace it temporarily. |
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