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#rockbox log for 2017-09-13

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14:44:41wodzDo we have target with LEFT, RIGHT, UP, DOWN, SELECT, VOL_UP and VOL_DOWN ? Basically like ipod but with volume buttons instead of scrolls
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15:40:42johnb2wodz: sansa clip+ is like this (+ a power button).
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15:53:12pamauryjohnb2: it has a menu button also, so that's two extra buttons
15:56:40johnb2You are right, I am sorry.
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18:45:28qolsonhello am having a problem with my rockbox on a ipod video 5.5g
18:46:47[Saint]Best say what it is then.
18:46:52qolsoni have a album where the freq of the songs are 192khz, bit-rate is 5404 vbr, my ipod refuese to play these files without stopping/starting during the songs
18:47:02qolsonalmost like skipping but not skipping
18:47:30qolsonsome friends are telling me its b/c the ipod cant handle the frec and vbr
18:47:49[Saint]That quality is absolutely ridiculous in normal sense, and utterly foolish in the context of Rockbox.
18:48:25[Saint]Everything is getting downsampled to 16/44.1|48 at best.
18:48:32[Saint]That's a hard limit.
18:48:38qolsonso rockbox cant play it correctly, ok
18:48:43[Saint]Throwing any more at it is useless.
18:49:25qolsonso i should just convert it down to 441
18:49:51[Saint]Normally it wouldn't be too bad, but the iPod video has a teensy wee CPU. And, yes.
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18:50:05qolsonok thank you!
18:50:44[Saint]It'll even choke on LAME 320 with 3 or 4 PEQ bands.
18:51:01qolsonhuh
18:51:05qolsongood to know
18:51:12[Saint]It's not exactly a powerhouse.
18:51:13[Saint]80MHz.
18:51:24qolsoni thought the 5.5 had a pretty good dac
18:51:32qolsonits the wolfson dac if i rember correctly
18:51:51[Saint]DAC comes after processing.
18:52:25[Saint]Gotta decode first.
18:52:54qolsonoh, ok. im not the most knowdledgable when it comes to audio equpimnet and how it works fully, thanks
18:54:44[Saint]Generally speaking, unless you're doing your own mixing, HD masters/high bitrate audio is a complete scam.
18:54:49[Saint]Lossless is lossless.
18:54:59[Saint]You can't get *more* lossless.
18:55:02qolsonok
18:56:08[Saint]Don't tell Niel Young I said that. He'll come beat my ass with a Pono.
18:56:54[Saint]Though I think I can take him. He's 200 years old.
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19:01:50gevaertsUnless your hardware can actually correctly play high frequencies (do your speakers play 80kHz sounds without distortion? No? Thought so...), playing audio higher than 44.1 or 48kHz can actually *add* audible artefacts due to distortions on higher resonant frequencies
19:02:06gevaertsSo if you value good sound, don't go above what you can hear
19:02:56[Saint]He might be a bat. If Bertrik were here, he'd know.
19:04:21gevaertsSure, he might be, but are his headphones up to it?
19:04:30gevaertsI seriously doubt it
19:04:47gevaerts(and everything else in the chain)
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20:02:44pamauryBilgus_: you have seen this strange report on the fuze+, have you had this problem that powering off corrupts the playlist file? I've never had this problem
20:03:14saratogai found my e200v2 cable, do i need to test something on the current dev build?
20:04:08Bilgus_Yeah I haven't had that happen either, then again I don't usually exit from the WPS either
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20:04:28Bilgus_saratoga oh yes please!
20:05:04Bilgus_report is that changing volume with scroll wheel causes a data abort
20:05:11saratogaok i'll try tonight
20:05:17Bilgus_while in WPS
20:05:38Bilgus_I never did verify if the failsafe skin crashed it as well
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20:14:42saratoga_we haven't changed much on amsv1, but its possible something we did for v2 interfers with the wheel polling (which is on the DBOP lines)
20:14:57saratoga_on the other hand, if its voltage related, there is a good chance my device won't have the problem
20:15:26saratoga_i'd ask that guy to try a build before all the amsv2 work went in, in theory it shouldn't change anything, but its possible there is a mistake
20:15:39saratoga_will let you know if my device works (not at home right now)
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