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#rockbox log for 2017-09-22

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03:34:32__builtinjhMikeS: when building for sim, gcc omplains that CHAR_BIT is undefined in vuprintf.c
03:34:50__builtinI think adding <limits.h> should fix it
03:50:04[Saint]Responding to Aldem.
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11:29:29pamauryI switched the YP-R0/1 to the new toolchain for build clients, this should solve the mysterious bugs when the builds were empty. This is because the configure file was using the new toolchain but the build system thouht it was using the old one
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11:43:45wodzpamaury: I stress tested a bit MIPS threading in bootloader on atj. It seems to work correctly.
11:46:19wodzpamaury: I tried reading file off SD to variously aligned buffers and comparing to the original implanted in binary, printing to lcd, loading bitmaps, reacting on buttons all from different threads and it was running flawlessly for an hour or so.
11:47:02wodzpamaury: This means I have no idea why rockbox main binary doesn't run correctly :-/
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12:42:49pamauryyeah build server is stuck x-(
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13:54:23wodzpamaury: ping
13:58:01pamaurywodz: pong but kind of busy
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14:05:49wodzpamaury: minus obvious typing errors. I mean the placement of ALIGN() directive
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14:14:29pamaurywodz: I don't know what happens if you don't specify where to put the .data section
14:14:41pamaury(ie omit > DARAM)
14:14:49wodzpamaury: this was error it should have > DRAM
14:15:18wodzmy question was about placement of . = ALIGN(16) inside output section declaration and between declarations
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14:18:24pamaurywodz: not sure, I would put it inside I think
14:19:31wodzpamaury: putting inside is what most (all?) examples I found do but I was surprised it is not an error to put such statement between declarations.
14:22:01pamaurywodz: yeah I don't even know what it does if you do it outside
14:22:08pamaurybecause what does "." refers to then ?
14:22:16pamauryactually I would put everything in the same section
14:25:57pamauryyou are going to produce a plain binary so the sections are kind of irrelevant
14:26:13pamauryexcept for their placement in memory
14:28:11wodzsure, still dividing into sections increase readability
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16:58:17johnb3saratoga: see,51987.msg240587.html#msg240587
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18:39:02JordiGHA clip zip should be able to read a 64 GB micro SD card, right?
18:39:28JordiGHI just put one in and it didn't show up from the File menu.
18:39:33johnb3as long as it is formatted as FAT32.
18:39:48JordiGHCan that do 64 gigs?
18:39:56JordiGHFAT32 has some limits.
18:40:22johnb3That's what RB supports.
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18:40:52JordiGHWait, mount says "fuseblk", is that a filesystem?
18:41:24johnb3ah, you are on Linux?
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18:41:47JordiGHWho isn't? :P
18:42:05JordiGHLet me reformat this thing.
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18:44:41JordiGHOh, fuseblk is NTFS.
18:44:45JordiGHWindows white.
18:45:09JordiGH(Well, so is FAT32, but at least it's easier to read shite.)
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18:49:46JordiGHBtw, I'm super-impressed that there was a new Rockbox release this year.
18:49:53JordiGHYou guys are awesome. :P
18:52:33Bilgusthank __builtin he got it all together
18:53:02JordiGHNew games, I see.
18:53:32JordiGHMost of them aren't playable on the clip zip, but kinda cool to see them. What does sgt stand for?
18:53:56JordiGHAt least there's always Freedoom. Managed to clear the first level on lowest difficulty.
18:55:09gevaertsThey're from
18:56:01JordiGHI had one segfault on me, I think.
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19:00:32BilgusThose games are __builtin 's baby as well I'm sure he would like some info if so.
19:01:07JordiGHIf I can repro I'll report.
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19:38:32JordiGHHm, the SD card is showing up according to my laptop when plugging clip zip to my laptop, but it wasn't showing up from Rockbox.
19:38:43JordiGHI hope that was just a blip.
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19:46:02JordiGHRockbox Info says "HD1 Not present", that's my SD card it's not finding, right?
19:52:03JordiGHShit, OF seems to find the SD card.
19:52:14JordiGHI wonder if I got too new of an SD card or something. :-(
19:58:23JordiGHWeird, it even shows up as "Rockbox SD Card Slog: 64 GB Volume" in Gnome when I plug the thing in via USB.
19:58:35JordiGHIt can definitely see and read the card.
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20:03:41gevaertsJordiGH: is the partition table correct?
20:04:09JordiGHMaybe not?
20:04:24JordiGHBut why would rockbox let me write to it when plugged in via USB?
20:05:21gevaertsThat's plain block device access
20:05:35gevaertsRockbox is picky about partition types
20:06:06JordiGHHm, any suggestion on how to do it?
20:06:08gevaertsIf the thing was ntfs, I'd check if the partition type isn't set to ntfs or some such. It needs to be one of the FAT ones
20:06:11gevaertsplain fdisk
20:07:54JordiGHIt's been a while, there probably was still some NTFS partition in there.
20:08:10JordiGHI mean, a while since I've done this.
20:08:51gevaertsfdisk /dev/sdx, p, look what it is, t, c
20:09:11gevaerts(c being FAT32 LBA)
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20:11:56JordiGHThanks, that worked! ^.^
20:12:11JordiGHIt was still NTFS, huh.
20:12:17JordiGHI thought mkdosfs would make it vfat.
20:12:48gevaertsNo, mk*fs don't touch that
20:12:55gevaertsAnd linux doesn't care
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20:37:39lebelliumpamaury: upgraded from Ubuntu v12 to v16
20:37:41lebelliumI get this error now
20:37:43lebellium.4/cc1: error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
20:37:56lebellium /home/ubuntu/arm-rockbox-linux-gnueabi/libexec/gcc/arm-rockbox-linux-gnueabi/4.9.4/cc1: error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
20:39:18JordiGHHave you rebuilt your toolchain?
20:39:35pamaurylebellium: maybe the upgrade removed a package by mistake, try apt-get install libmpc
20:39:39pamaury(not sure about the name)
20:39:58lebelliumI didn't rebuild anything. I naively thought that the upgrade would be transparent :P
20:40:51pamaurysometimes the package manage thinks a package is not needed anymore and removes
20:41:27lebelliumyeah it asked me if I wanted to delete 179 packages
20:41:32lebelliumI said "yes" of course :D
20:41:38pamauryapt-get install mpc
20:41:49pamauryhmm wait not good
20:42:21pamauryapt-get install libmpc3
20:43:07JordiGHThis does sound like the thing needs to be relinked to newer libraries anyway.
20:43:31JordiGHI assume the soname has changed.
20:43:33lebelliuminstall mpc worked. libmpc3 tells me I already have the latest version
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20:44:05pamauryah damn, stupid ubuntu guys completely removed version 2
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20:44:20pamauryyeah you'll have to rebuild the toolchain
20:44:54lebelliumI'll look at your instructions in logs
20:44:57pamauryto be faire you moved from 12.x to 16.x, that's a big jump
20:44:58gevaertsOr grab an old .deb
20:45:26lebelliumIt's a big jump but I asked yesterday it that was safe enough :P
20:45:30pamaurygevaerts: even 14.x doesn't have version 2 apparently!
20:45:53pamaurylebellium: you system still boots, that's safe enough ;)
20:48:41gevaertspamaury: anything after 2010 is new! :)
20:49:06JordiGHWhat's the most modern rockbox hardware out there?
20:50:24pamauryJordiGH: you mean in terms of supported device?
20:50:44pamauryI guess the Sony NW-A20
20:51:27pamauryI mean it also depends on the definition of 'most modern' ;)
20:56:48lebelliumjust a stupid question: why is our "new" toolchain based on an (old?) component removed from latest distributions?
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20:57:36lynithHello everyone
20:58:01lynithis aynone up?
20:58:23pamaurylebellium: the toolchain links to the system's libmpc
20:58:51pamaurythe toolchain itself does not include libmpc
20:58:57pamaurylynith: ask your question
20:59:50lynithim here for the walkman cap
20:59:58lynithwhen i write scsitool-nwz-v9.exe F: dest_tool get
21:00:12lynithit says cannot get model id from device : 2
21:00:23lyniththis device doesn't have node '' shp ''
21:02:26pamaurylynith: what model is your nwz device?
21:02:33pamauryare you sure F: is the right letter?
21:02:46lynithw273s and yes F: is the right one
21:03:30pamaurythe w273s is not supported by the tool
21:04:05lynithoh , so is there another way or no?
21:04:48pamaurynot that I know, the W273S is not based on linux and although I did not investigate this device in particular, I am not aware of any way to change the destination for those devices
21:05:26lynithalright thanks for ur time anyways
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21:06:18lebelliumthe W273 doesn't have a screen...
21:06:30lebelliumboring device :D
21:07:33fs-bluebotBuild Server message: New build round started. Revision acc3ef3, 273 builds, 15 clients.
21:08:39JordiGHpamaury: By "most modern" I meant latest to come to market.
21:08:46pamaurylebellium: I'm sure you have at least one device without a screen :-p
21:08:57pamauryJordiGH: then NW-A20 is correct I think
21:09:23lebelliumIndeed I have 3 screen-less Samsung :P
21:09:33lebelliumI also think the A20 is the latest one
21:09:35gevaertslebellium: no iaudio m3?
21:09:59gevaertsWhat's your count now?
21:10:01lebelliumgevaerts: well... it has a screen.... remotely
21:10:11gevaertslebellium: unplug it!
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21:10:58gevaertsBut yes, I forgot about that
21:11:20JordiGHpamaury: Interesting... although I am still boycotting Sony for the PS3 and geohotz. :P
21:11:51lebelliumI have 105 devices but the number is clearly not growing as fast as it used to. I need pamaury to make more ports to incite me to buy new ones :D
21:12:08gevaertsJordiGH: why not for the CD rootkit?
21:12:46JordiGHgevaerts: That too.
21:13:02JordiGHI stab at thee, Sony!
21:16:12lebelliumThere are a few Sansa missing in my collection but I won't buy a Connect or View if there is no functional port!
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21:18:02pamauryseriously this eeprom_setting.h error is werid
21:18:31gevaertsSomeone suggested it's related to not building language stuff
21:19:04pamauryhmmm, there is something clearly wrong
21:19:13pamauryI added the message "GEN lang.h" to see what happens
21:19:22pamauryone can see that for example recording.c is build BEFORE lang.h
21:19:30pamaurybut recording.c includes lang.h
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21:22:32pamaurybut on my machine at least, the generated make.dep lists lang.h in the dependencies of recording.o so I'm super confused
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21:33:21*pamaury hates make
21:36:43JordiGHI'm so sad that clip sport can't Rockbox.
21:37:07JordiGHIsn't that water resistant? I really would love to have a waterproof rockbox device.
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21:40:52pamaurywhat is more confusing is that gcc doesn't complain that lang.h does not exists, which means that the include somehow succeeds, so it sounds like lang.h may be half-generated
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21:46:05pamauryoh wait, lang.h is generated TWICE!!
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22:03:35micahpamaury: i got that cheap nwz-a17 today, they sent me the nwz-e385... no wonder it was cheap :(
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22:21:30__builtinJordiGH: Which plugin gave the crash?
22:22:24JordiGH__builtin: I forget, one of the sgt games. Most of them have really bad colours on the clip zip or would need a much bigger screen, so I didn't really go into much depth.
22:22:45JordiGHI mean, maybe that's the problem to begin with, the code expected more screen space or something.
22:23:04__builtinIt's quite possible you're right
22:23:30__builtinThey're definitely not designed for a 96x96 screen
22:24:34JordiGHIs pixeplaint also thanks to you? That was new to me too and I've been having a lot of fun with it. It plays nicely.
22:25:47__builtinThat isn't mine
22:26:14JordiGHHuh, that one crashes with playback.
22:26:47JordiGHYeah, works fine without playback.
22:27:40__builtinI'll take a look
22:28:14JordiGHWow, even going into pixel painter without playback and then trying to play a song afterwards crashes.
22:28:29JordiGHAw, man, I didn't try playback at all yesterday and that game is fun.
22:28:54__builtinsgt-flood is based on the same premise
22:29:25JordiGHOh, and that one seems to work on this screen.
22:29:41JordiGHActually, better UI too, I would say.
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22:30:49__builtinI have no idea why pixel painter would crash though
22:31:15JordiGHEh, don't worry about it, got a workaround. ^.^
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22:34:35__builtinI'll see if I can reproduce any crashes in the clipzip simulator
22:34:45__builtinI never really tested thoroughly on small screens
22:37:48__builtinah, I'm on the duke branch, so I can see if that works as well :)
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22:48:07__builtinWow, I don't know how you'd play some of these on the zip
22:48:33__builtinthat is one tiny screen
22:49:30__builtinthankfully the sim has a −−zoom option :)
22:49:45JordiGHDoom is mostly a novelty.
22:49:53JordiGHJust a parlour trick to show off to friends.
22:50:35JordiGHBut some of these other games play just fine on this screen.
22:50:50JordiGHI love sudoku, 2048, chess, flipit...
22:50:56__builtin2048 :)
22:51:42__builtinI should probably get around to dropping the score display completely on the zip, and just let the field take up the whole screen
22:52:03 Quit johnb3 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
22:53:35JordiGHHm, I like it how it is.
22:53:48JordiGHThe score could possibly be a bit smaller, but I find it playable enough.
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22:59:58__builtinhi ulmutul
23:00:44__builtinhave you read the logs? it appears pixel-painter crashes with playback on the zip
23:01:13__builtinlast hour-ish
23:01:45ulmutulJordiGH, can you test if boomshine also crashes with playback? Would be nice to know if it's a general lua issue or specific to this game (both are lua based)
23:02:37JordiGHulmutul: Moment...
23:02:49JordiGHYes, it also crashes!
23:03:09__builtinis there anything on the screen?
23:03:11__builtinor just a freeze?
23:03:15ulmutulThen it's not my fault :P
23:04:19 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
23:05:35JordiGH__builtin: Freezes like this:
23:06:01__builtinhmm, so no address
23:06:15JordiGHI'm using the FuzzyLogic theme. Wanna see another theme?
23:06:26ulmutulSeems to be device specific, I just tried it with my YH925 and everything works fine.
23:06:36__builtinI don't think the theme will matter
23:07:20JordiGHI assume it works in the simulator too.
23:07:34__builtinprobably, but I haven't checked
23:07:55ulmutulIIRC lua uses a lot of memory. How much RAM has the clip zip?
23:08:13JordiGHboomshine worked in 3.13
23:09:26__builtinso, boomshine fails in clipzip sim, but pixel-painter works
23:09:53__builtinapparently it's trying to call rb.lcd_puts_scroll, which is a nil value
23:11:07__builtinit looks like lcd_puts_scroll is only called when the string is wider than the screen, which explains why it hasn't shown up on other devices
23:11:38saratogaclip zip has 8 MB
23:11:54saratogaplus 1MB IRAM
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23:19:21__builtinis there some way to debug code on-target through USB or something?
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23:36:43lebelliummicah: .... I hope you get a full refund.
23:42:54lebelliumpamaury (logs): so I try to build the toolchain again with Ubuntu 16
23:43:04lebelliumfollowing your instructions of yesterday
23:43:16lebelliumubuntu@ubuntu-VirtualBox:~/rockbox/tools$ ./ −−prefix=/home/ubuntu/arm-rockbox-linux-gnueabi/ −−target="x" −−makeflags="-j4"
23:43:18lebelliumUnknown option '−−prefix=/home/ubuntu/arm-rockbox-linux-gnueabi/'
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