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| 13:39:28 | cereal__ | When trying to build the database tool on linux with "make database" I get the following error message: database.c:9:22: fatal error: tagcache.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. <builtin>: recipe for target 'database' failed make: *** [database] Error 1 |
| 13:41:46 | cereal__ | in the /tools/database folder, there is no tagcache.h file or config.h as defined in database.c |
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| 13:42:19 | cereal__ | how can I build database tool? |
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| 13:59:44 | pamaury | cereal__: my guess is that no one tried to build it in a long time, I am not even sure it's up to dat |
| 13:59:45 | pamaury | e |
| 13:59:47 | pamaury | ask [Saint] |
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| 14:00:00 | pamaury | ah sorry, database not theme |
| 14:00:17 | pamaury | hmm, then I don't know who to ask, I'll try to have a look later |
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| 14:00:50 | cereal__ | pamaury: thank you for your answer |
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| 15:36:44 | CH23 | I believe i might have found the 'idle poweroff' not working some days ago: it works when i play seperate tracks and pause them, but when i use my playlist (playlist.m3u8) and i pause there, it won't 'idle' |
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| 15:42:38 | CH23 | i really need to work on structuring my sentences better: I believe i might have found the cause of the 'idle poweroff' not working' issue i reported some days ago: idle poweroff works when i play separate tracks and pause them, but when i play tracks from my playlist (playlist.m3u8) and i pause, then it won't 'idle' |
| 15:43:06 | CH23 | Bilgus, are you here by any chance? |
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| 16:14:12 | pamaury | cereal__: I have no problem building the database tool. I ran configure, selected a target and (D)atabase tool, then "make" and it compiled. Can you describe how to repeat your problem ? |
| 16:34:40 | cereal__ | pamaury: I get /home/cereal/rockbox/build/tools/database/../../apps/tagcache.o: error adding symbols: File in wrong format collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status /home/cereal/rockbox/tools/database/database.make:47: recipe for target '/home/cereal/rockbox/build/database.sansaclipv2' failed make: *** [/home/cereal/rockbox/build/database.sansaclipv2] Error 1 |
| 16:35:07 | cereal__ | I have to admit I only have basic knowledge in comipling and stuff |
| 16:39:12 | cereal__ | my first mistake was trying to build it in rockbox/tools/database folder and not running ../tools/configure |
| 16:39:54 | cereal__ | what should be the output of this? a file in /rockbox/build/tools/database folder? |
| 16:40:05 | cereal__ | there is only a database.o file |
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| 16:53:32 | pamaury | cereal__: you build it as you build a target: create a directory somewhere (typically I create it at the root of the rockbox repo, for example build_database). Then cd build_database; ../tools/configure |
| 16:54:01 | pamaury | select a target then (D), then run "make" and you get a database.<target> executable |
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| 16:55:49 | Taxicletter | Hi ppl |
| 16:55:50 | pamaury | cereal__: basically follow https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HowToCompile but select database tool in configure |
| 16:55:59 | pamaury | Taxicletter: hi, please ask your question |
| 16:56:18 | cereal__ | pamaury: thanks I got it compiled |
| 16:56:39 | Taxicletter | I have some very easy and stupid questions :-) First: which programming language do have to know to help with RockBox? |
| 16:57:20 | cereal__ | but how can I execute it? does it have to be on my player? |
| 16:59:47 | cereal__ | Taxicletter: I think its C see: https://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=blob;f=docs/CONTRIBUTING |
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| 17:00:11 | pamaury | cereal__: no, it runs on your computer |
| 17:00:33 | pamaury | Taxicletter: mostly C, a bit of assembly |
| 17:01:18 | cereal__ | doubleclick does nothing, and in terminal typing database.sansaclipv2 gives mi database.sansaclipv2: command not found |
| 17:02:07 | Taxicletter | Okay, I see. Looks quite complicated if I read that page. I have no programming experience, so that looks like a big leap... I only know Processing (graphic port of Java) a little. |
| 17:02:30 | pamaury | cereal__: you need to run like a normal linux executable: ./database.sansaclipv2 |
| 17:02:56 | pamaury | also I don't know what this tool does to be honest, I thought you knew that ;) |
| 17:03:29 | pamaury | Taxicletter: depends what you want to do. Everyone has to learn at some point. Though learning C first is probably a requirement to contributing |
| 17:04:42 | funman | there is also lua no? |
| 17:04:59 | pamaury | Taxicletter: funman: yes we have lua for plugins |
| 17:05:52 | Taxicletter | I'm checking "C for beginners" right now, to see if I can help with the Fiio X1 ii port (which I obviously own). |
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| 17:15:36 | cereal__ | pamaury: it should create the database files (database_*.tcd) on my player |
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| 17:19:24 | pamaury | cereal__: maybe the tool does that but I don't know how it works, probably you need to give it some argument, I am afraid the source code is the only doc, I can't find anything on the wiki, I'll try to look tonight |
| 17:21:03 | pamaury | Taxicletter: developing a port is not so easy, if you really want to get into the porting process, you will need to know some C and some system programming. Depending on how the port is done, it may require some embedded system knowledge or not |
| 17:22:07 | Taxicletter | damn. I really would like to help. I'll start by checking C and see how far I can get, I have not much spare time to spend, alas. |
| 17:23:11 | cereal__ | pamaury: I found some info here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=20964.0 |
| 17:25:10 | Taxicletter | I thought there was a beginning of that port, but i'm not sure. If i read the forum, it seems ppl are busy with it, allthough it has been a while since there was a comment. |
| 17:26:58 | pamaury | cereal__: some comment in the source say: This is meant to be run on the root of the dap. it'll put the db files into |
| 17:26:58 | pamaury | * a .rockbox subdir |
| 17:27:11 | pamaury | Taxicletter: yes I am working on the port for Fiio X1 (1st gen) |
| 17:27:19 | pamaury | but same problem: not much free time |
| 17:28:07 | cereal__ | pamaury, yes I already tried sudo ./database.sansaclipv2 -r /media/cereal/SANSA CLIP -d .rockbox -s /Musik .m create |
| 17:28:08 | pamaury | cereal__: maybe try cd /path/to/your/dap (ie mount it somewhere and cd to the root) |
| 17:28:08 | pamaury | then /path/to/the/databasetool |
| 17:28:10 | Taxicletter | :-) |
| 17:28:18 | cereal__ | but I get udo: ./database.sansaclipv2: command not found |
| 17:28:51 | pamaury | cereal__: the code I see in the repo does not even seen to process any command line parameter. Also why sudo ? Are you sure you are running this from the build dir ? |
| 17:30:42 | pamaury | I think the forum thread does not apply to the version in the repository, maybe it has been changed since then |
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| 17:34:59 | Taxicletter | there is an essential difference with the second generation, someone posted. |
| 17:35:59 | cereal__ | pamaury: it worked now! thanks a lot. I have created the database using my PC. |
| 17:36:42 | pamaury | Taxicletter: when the software on it is quite different (it runs linux). Which means it triggers the question on whether we want to do a native port or a linux port. There are some pros and cons to both |
| 17:37:18 | Taxicletter | thank you for the explanation pamaury |
| 17:37:49 | Taxicletter | Who and when will that be decided? |
| 17:39:00 | pamaury | Taxicletter: for now I am working on the 1st gen, when it's done (or advanced enough) and I start looking at it, I will decide I guess. Unless other people step up and start doing something of course |
| 17:40:03 | Taxicletter | OK. I'll look into C, but I guess you can't count on me for stepping in :-) if so, I'll let you know ;-) |
| 17:41:24 | Bilgus | CH23? |
| 17:44:17 | cereal__ | pamaury: I tried this tool on my Sansa Fuze+ and it worked too, no need to compile for this player |
| 17:48:12 | Bilgus | I would think not except if there were a difference between the required database format |
| 17:49:33 | pamaury | I don't think there is a difference in the format but I might be wrong |
| 17:51:51 | cereal__ | will try on other players too |
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| 18:01:05 | cereal__ | e280 works too, so I think this tool is universal |
| 18:06:35 | cereal__ | pamaury: thanks again for the guiding, bye. |
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| 18:46:13 | CH23 | Bilgus, sorry i was having dinner |
| 18:47:17 | CH23 | i had a problem where my clipplus would not idle and shut down, and i've now tested, and found that this only happens when i use a playlist file |
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| 19:49:18 | asymsucon | I wonder if LUFS analyzer for rockbox could be developed.. |
| 19:52:13 | asymsucon | *Offline/online integrated LUFS measurements and online short term and momentary.. |
| 19:53:01 | asymsucon | https://github.com/jiixyj/loudness-scanner |
| 19:54:19 | pamaury | asymsucon: saratoga is basically the one who knows most about audio. Though you would need to explain what you have in mind exactly. We already have replaygain support |
| 19:55:08 | asymsucon | pamaury: LUFS is similar to RMS (used by ReplayGain |
| 19:55:51 | asymsucon | only newer (latest revision 2015) and takes ATH hearing curve into consideration |
| 19:57:10 | Bilgus | CH23 but using a playlist it isn't idle or do you mean after the playlist is done playing? |
| 19:59:38 | pamaury | I don't know enough about RG, just that we support the tags. Unless there are some LUFS-specific tags, I am not sure what rockbox can do? Maybe a plugin can do measurement, we have plugins that do various things |
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| 20:00:37 | asymsucon | pamaury: Can you display custom ID3 on WPS? |
| 20:00:52 | CH23 | Bilgus, i paused the track |
| 20:01:15 | CH23 | in older rockbox versions that would count as idle |
| 20:01:37 | pamaury | asymsucon: not idea, ask [Saint], I suspect not but might be wrong |
| 20:02:41 | pamaury | asymsucon: https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS gives the syntax of WPS, not sure if it's up to date |
| 20:03:49 | pamaury | as you can see there are lots of ID3 tags, and probably more could be added if needed |
| 20:03:56 | lebellium | it's quite up to date |
| 20:05:10 | asymsucon | pamaury: I meant custom tag fields |
| 20:05:35 | lebellium | no |
| 20:05:55 | lebellium | unless you modify the source code to implement them |
| 20:06:12 | Bilgus | CH23 what is the Idle power off timeout set to in General>Startup/Shutdown>Idle Poweroff? |
| 20:06:22 | Bilgus | just to be sure ofc |
| 20:06:32 | pamaury | no, in fact I don't think about metadata parser keeps all tags, probably only the ones it knows about |
| 20:06:44 | Bilgus | but mostlikely it isn't getting the audio status properly |
| 20:07:28 | CH23 | it's set correct, at 1 minute |
| 20:07:29 | asymsucon | Temporary workaround could be to embed it in comments |
| 20:07:46 | CH23 | it works when i play a track from file, not when i do from playlist |
| 20:07:53 | asymsucon | and recall it through %iC |
| 20:09:11 | Bilgus | CH23 what about if you stop playback (press power button once) |
| 20:09:47 | asymsucon | Another thing - is it possible to embed peak meters with labelled horizontal axis on WPS |
| 20:10:28 | shadoxx | I know this is the dev channel, but anyone in here have suggestions for deep house/tech house artists? |
| 20:10:42 | shadoxx | I mean, it's kind of an ontopic question |
| 20:10:58 | asymsucon | shadoxx: Only classical, early rock and folk, sorry :P |
| 20:11:09 | lebellium | that's what #rockbox-community is for :) |
| 20:11:37 | shadoxx | lebellium: oh man, look at that |
| 20:11:52 | CH23 | if i stop playback it still won't shut off |
| 20:11:59 | shadoxx | Ok, on topic question. I have an iPod 4th Gen. I need to fix some functions in the firmware for this build. I have a build env, but I need lower level information about the 4th gen |
| 20:12:00 | CH23 | in the way you asked me to |
| 20:12:33 | shadoxx | Like, protocol documentation, how to talk to addresses and ports on the ARM processor via bitshifts in the firmware |
| 20:12:57 | shadoxx | Is there a good resource for low level hardware technical information somewhere? |
| 20:14:33 | Bilgus | CH23 is this a dev version or 3.14? |
| 20:14:45 | CH23 | dev build |
| 20:15:28 | asymsucon | Sorry, I'm a bit lost in there - %pL and %pR show unlabeled linear dBFS meter. Is there an option to show labelled logarithmic VU meter (with -48, -36, -24, -12, -6, -3, 0 on X-axis)? |
| 20:15:42 | Bilgus | ok try setting the sleep timer and see if it shuts off then and then try 3.14 and see if it still acts up |
| 20:15:44 | CH23 | currently todays' but it's been in this state for at least since Version: 63eae43M-171109 |
| 20:16:51 | Bilgus | I know jhMikeS had some updates to the playback engine but I'm not sure how it woukld only affect it when playing polaylists |
| 20:17:14 | CH23 | sleep times only does 5 minutes and up does it not? |
| 20:17:33 | CH23 | why do you want me to use the sleep timer exactly? |
| 20:18:13 | CH23 | brb |
| 20:19:15 | Bilgus | just to see if its a problem with a timer or if it is an issue with playback status |
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| 20:20:40 | Bilgus | the poweroff for idle and sleep are in the same powermgmt function |
| 20:21:45 | cereal__ | Bilgus: maybe this is related: on clip zip, when powering off during playback and powering on again, the dynamic playlist starts from the first track |
| 20:23:52 | Bilgus | I think thats probably unrelated but I don't remember what I tracked it down to so far I'll have to look back in the logs |
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| 20:26:38 | cereal__ | I found the pattern, you need to enter the playlist, select a different track, power down, power on and it starts from the first track |
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| 20:33:29 | CH23 | Bilgus, as i said, it does power down in 60 seconds you play back from file, and from database too |
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| 20:35:05 | CH23 | so the times is okay |
| 20:35:23 | CH23 | timer* |
| 20:35:32 | Bilgus | does it shut down in 60 seconds if you are in a playlist? |
| 20:35:43 | CH23 | no it does not shut down at all |
| 20:36:17 | Bilgus | ok so if it doesn't shut down even with the sleep timer in a playlist it might be the timer |
| 20:36:34 | CH23 | oh |
| 20:36:46 | CH23 | i'll test that |
| 20:37:04 | Bilgus | or cotrruption of something like the charger status |
| 20:37:38 | CH23 | why would the corruption last over different software builds? |
| 20:37:48 | CH23 | and on both my sansa clips |
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| 20:42:23 | CH23 | Bilgus, do you want me to have the music paused or playing with the playlist+shutdown timer running? |
| 20:42:47 | Bilgus | either or both should work |
| 20:43:24 | CH23 | we'll know in 3 minutes |
| 20:43:31 | Bilgus | there are a lot of conditionals in that power off radio, playback, charger plugged... if there was an overflow any one of those could get clobbered but I fell its more than likely audio status |
| 20:43:44 | Bilgus | feel* |
| 20:45:08 | Bilgus | if sleep timer works then we can eliminate charger status and current_tick as culprits |
| 20:45:45 | Bilgus | next we can try forcing each of those statuses and see which one sticks |
| 20:46:34 | Bilgus | once we narrow it down we can track down what changed |
| 20:46:37 | CH23 | it shuts down on timer while in playlist playing mode |
| 20:46:53 | Bilgus | do you have a build enviroment set up? |
| 20:47:03 | CH23 | yes |
| 20:49:40 | Bilgus | https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/03dd4b92be7dcd5c8ab06da3810887060e06abd5/firmware/powermgmt.c#L944 make that int audio_stat = 0;//audio_status(); |
| 20:49:59 | Bilgus | and see if it works then |
| 20:51:13 | Bilgus | also have you tried renaming your cfg file so a new one is used.. there are some weird issues caused by old cfg file sometimes |
| 20:53:05 | CH23 | i tried it without my cfg file |
| 20:53:24 | CH23 | then added setting, tested, another setting, tested, added theme, tested |
| 20:53:27 | CH23 | etcetera |
| 20:53:45 | CH23 | and finally after it all worked, i tried using a playlist |
| 20:54:32 | Bilgus | ah ok just making sure.. setting the audio_stat to 0 should confirm |
| 20:54:43 | CH23 | working on it |
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| 21:01:02 | CH23 | building takes a while on my core2duo |
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| 21:05:03 | CH23 | Bilgus, build and installed, now what do i do? |
| 21:05:31 | Bilgus | same thing play a playlist and see if it idles off when paused |
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| 21:07:43 | johnb2 | Bilgus : What are your plans for http://gerrit.rockbox.org/1767 ? Anything you want me to test? I have 2 clip+ with a dead screen. I read that the saving might be minor, but it still should help, right? (backlight is set to off already now). |
| 21:09:03 | Bilgus | when the bl is sset to off the clock is still running so it might save you like .2% or something |
| 21:09:41 | CH23 | it won't shut down when pausing a playlist track. it does when pausing from file. |
| 21:10:12 | Bilgus | with it installed i got a reduction of something like 100 ua on the power which works out to like 3 minutes lol |
| 21:10:43 | johnb2 | :-) then I would rather wait until it's commited, unless a dedicated test is needed. |
| 21:11:16 | Bilgus | nah it works fine you can test it if you like |
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| 21:11:38 | Bilgus | CH23 if it doesn't idle off even with audio status forced to paused then we need to look at the other status' |
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| 21:17:14 | CH23 | i'm going to try something else first; right now i'm booting from the sd card, so i'm now preparing a build to boot from the internal memory. |
| 21:17:43 | Bilgus | CH23 starting here https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/03dd4b92be7dcd5c8ab06da3810887060e06abd5/firmware/powermgmt.c#L964 change to -> https://pastebin.com/kMVXcqFD |
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| 21:17:59 | CH23 | something i'd like to mention is that i keep seeing the 'disc activity' icon blipping up |
| 21:18:38 | Bilgus | well that is quite possible |
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| 21:19:47 | CH23 | it __shouldn't__ matter, really, as i had the same setup as before the 9th of november |
| 21:20:16 | Bilgus | perhaps it timesout tries to write to the playlist and then not enough time has passed for disk spin down it cancels the shutdown and rinse repeat |
| 21:20:35 | Bilgus | sorry tries to write playlist status |
| 21:20:42 | CH23 | this is not a playlis- ah |
| 21:31:49 | CH23 | even with a completely unmodified firmware on the internal memory, playing from a playlist on the external, it fails to poweroff |
| 21:33:13 | CH23 | i'll try your thing now |
| 21:33:50 | CH23 | do you want the previous modification still in there, Bilgus ? |
| 21:34:16 | Bilgus | nah the new one negates it |
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| 21:46:02 | CH23 | https://hastebin.com/atujusahux.vbs |
| 21:46:11 | CH23 | i'm getting 3 errors |
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| 22:24:14 | CH23 | Bilgus, you should know that i couldn't write 2 lines of code if my life depended on it |
| 22:27:32 | Bilgus | its my fault most likely brb |
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| 22:31:57 | Bilgus | ch23 replace from 964 to end with https://pastebin.com/cp6rRYGd |
| 22:33:50 | Bilgus | and if it still happens finally try this one https://pastebin.com/ZVv9rfuc |
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| 22:35:05 | CH23 | i'm getting different errors now |
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| 22:38:06 | CH23 | /home/ch23/Documents/rockboxstuff/UntitledFolder/rockbox/firmware/powermgmt.c:942:1: error: unterminated #ifndef |
| 22:39:12 | CH23 | https://hastebin.com/ubayixoqin.cpp |
| 22:39:18 | CH23 | this is the file as i have it |
| 22:52:15 | Bilgus | put #endif line after handle_sleep_timer(); and before the final } |
| 22:54:13 | CH23 | oh duh |
| 22:54:22 | CH23 | that makes sense, thanks |
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| 23:03:01 | CH23 | build and installed |
| 23:03:31 | CH23 | and shutting down! |
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| 23:13:00 | Bilgus | ok now try the second one and see if it still shuts down |
| 23:13:51 | Bilgus | I think with your observation of the disk activity light it probably won't and then we just have to find out what is writing to the disk |
| 23:16:29 | Bilgus | CH23 oh wait nevermind |
| 23:17:41 | Bilgus | you already had the last one did you try https://pastebin.com/cp6rRYGd yet? |
| 23:18:55 | CH23 | i did not, but i will in a moment |
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| 23:25:25 | Saratoga | shadoxx: undocumented SOC so the only documentation is the code |
| 23:25:45 | Saratoga | Most things that are known about it are there however |
| 23:28:41 | shadoxx | Saratoga: figured it was something like that. in the cpu file? |
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