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#rockbox log for 2018-02-04

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06:01:37ksx4systemhello :) how do I submit something to Rockbox? I've just made fmr file I'd like to share
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22:10:57irlis there a list of recent devices with rockbox support?
22:11:19irli'd like to buy something, but most of the models i'm looking at are no longer manufactured
22:11:34[Saint]No.
22:11:53__builtinare any of the newer sonys still manufactured?
22:12:54irli mean, i can't even find 2nd hand devices on ebay for the ones i've looked at
22:13:26irlsomeone on the mailing list said they were using an xduoo x3 but i can't find that in the hardware support list at all
22:13:34__builtinthat's an unofficial port
22:13:37[Saint]DAPs are dead. None of this surprises me.
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22:14:48irlok, it looks like a chinese brand, is it based on a common chipset?
22:14:56pamaurywodz: re icons: on the NWZ I extract it from the player at runtime
22:15:21irli'm wondering if there's a whole bunch of devices out there that actually would only need a single porting effort
22:15:38irlthey must all just have SoCs in them at this point
22:16:37[Saint]That's not nearly as relevant as you'd think.
22:17:00[Saint]They can share the same chipset, and also have a _completely_ different internal layout.
22:17:31[Saint]Hell, even the same devices with the same product numbers can have some pretty dratic substitutions.
22:17:38[Saint]*drastic
22:18:02irlok
22:18:06irlthis makes me very sad
22:18:21[Saint]Mobiles killed the DAP market about a decade ago.
22:18:50irli've decided i don't actually want a mobile, i just want the music part of it
22:18:51[Saint]Only a shadow of the high end market, and the extreme low end market, remains.
22:19:11irlthe battery in my phone is so terrible it's been in flight mode for months
22:19:22irlthen i realised there's no point in having a phone
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22:20:11[Saint]I mean, that's going to vary quite wildly on the device. My S8+ for instance gets almost three days standby with 8~10h SOT.
22:20:26[Saint]It'll also charge from 0~60% capacity in ~10 minutes.
22:20:52irli have an A3, it gets about 4 hours standby time with the radios on
22:20:55[Saint](with an estimated ~4% loss of maximal capacity over the couse of two years)
22:21:05[Saint]*course
22:21:20irlfor note taking and calendar, i've been using a psion 5
22:21:26[Saint]Yeah....that's the thing, I guess.
22:21:31irlwhich runs on AA batteries, so no recharging
22:21:57[Saint]The Galaxy A and J series devices are shit-tier low-end devices that think they're high-end when they can't even really comfortably pass for midrange.
22:22:14[Saint]Mobiles are very much a 'get what you paid for' market.
22:22:19irli like to refer to the J series as the "Joke" series
22:22:25*[Saint] nods
22:22:39[Saint]Babies First Galaxy
22:23:18irlheh, ok, i will give up then
22:23:29irlthanks for the help
22:27:12user890104irl: i found used ipods (6G - 120GB) in local craiglist-like site for 50-60 EUR
22:27:29irluser890104: my problem with used ipods is they tend to have dead batteries
22:27:34user890104one of them is almost like new, with very few HDD power on hours
22:27:51user890104and the battery is good, too
22:27:51irli've successfully replaced a battery once, but the second time i managed to brick it
22:32:31[Saint]My usual go-to is pawn shops.
22:32:49[Saint]I get most of my exotic/sought after DAPs from there.
22:33:10[Saint]Bonus points if you can find one next to or very near a casino, people get really desperate.
22:34:18[Saint]You'll generally find at least one iPod variant there. The ipod6g is very much regarded as a beast. Hardware-wise, it's quite the case of reasonably dramatic overkill.
22:34:47[Saint]A lot of people don't like Apple, for various reasons, and I'm cool with that. They're a shit company.
22:34:56[Saint]But I'll be damned if they don't make great hardware.
22:35:53[Saint]iPod6G is very likely the "best" commonly available (for varying definitions of common and available) supported device in the lineup to date.
22:36:01[Saint]It will likely remain this way for a very long time.
22:37:57irli will keep an eye out for one
22:38:57irlput an ebay bid on a Sansa Fuze+ for now
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