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#rockbox log for 2018-04-25

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00:14:52__builtinooh, this is nice :)
00:15:18__builtincompiling puzzles with -ffunction-sections and -fdata-sections lets the compiler automatically strip unused non-static functions
00:15:50__builtinthis frees up almost 8KB for Net on the c200v2
00:16:05__builtinwhich is a lot, considering the plugin buffer is only 80K
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01:06:47fs-bluebotBuild Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 992a126, 273 builds, 11 clients.
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01:49:36memeloverI was wondering, does anyone know about any efforts to make the "accessory mode" of the ipod line work with rockbox? I use my ipod video with my car radio over usb, and the ipod loads some sort of driver when it detects the stereo. Could this work with rockbox?
01:50:04__builtinprobably not
01:50:21__builtinwell, I might be wrong
01:50:35__builtinwe support some parts of IAP, which is probably what that's usinfg
01:53:26memeloverI didn't know what it was called, but I found the page thanks to that acronym! Thanks.
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02:39:52saratoga_newer versions of IAP use reasonably strong cryptography to lockout unlicensed devices, so not too easy to support
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11:27:34Digital[m]reading through the irc guidlines, point 4 says using abbreviations or other similar stuff is not allowed, however https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines explains some abbreviations. what's up with that?
11:29:20pamauryDigital[m]: this is a fuzzy rules, we just don't want people to come in and start spitting abbreviations that no one understands
11:32:08Digital[m]the lyre project seems dead. is it still alive?
11:33:30pamauryas far as I know it's dead, if it has ever been alive
11:33:43pamaurythere are lyre-like project now and then, I think there is a thread currently on the forum
11:44:03Digital[m]how does rockbock look? (I assume the looks basically just depends on the screen size?)
11:44:36Digital[m]oops. s/rockbock/rockbox/
11:45:22Digital[m]oh right themes. is there a list of common themes and how they look?
11:46:37pamaurythere is a default theme and many custom themes depending on the target. You can look in the manual, there are some pictures as I recall
11:47:50gevaertsAnd of course http://themes.rockbox.org/ if you feel bored
11:47:59*gevaerts recommends downloading a simulator
11:51:34Digital[m]uhh, awesome!
11:52:58Digital[m]whooo, there is an one time password plugin and a resistor calculator plugin, neat
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12:27:59Digital[m]on https://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml why do some manuals don't have links?
12:36:18Digital[m]what simulators are there for linux systems?
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12:52:28pamauryDigital[m]: some targets don't have a manual (yet?)
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12:53:33pamaurythere is a simulator on linux for many targets, not all but most. They can be found here iirc: https://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi (for HEAD, ie very last version)
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13:07:23gevaertsI don't think there are linux sims available for download (the motivation being that on linux things are easy to build anyway)
13:11:02Digital[m]thanks, I'll take a look at it. I can build stuff myself, when I know that it exists and where I can get the code
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13:14:53Digital[m]I'm a bit confused by names, is this this player supported? https://www.sandisk.com/home/mp3-players/clip-sport-plus
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13:22:29pamauryno
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13:23:33gevaertsUnfortunately the clip sport is a serious step back in hardware capabilities compared to earlier sandisk players, and it's not good enough for rockbox
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13:32:56Digital[m]okay, thanks. do any of the ports support bluetooth (assuming the official firmware / hardware does)
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14:11:25pamauryDigital[m]: not yet, but there is some work to support bluetooth on the agptek rocker
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15:41:54Digital[m]pamaury: rockbox supports agptek? I can't find it in the supported devices list
15:44:06TyphoonScotland@Digital[m] It's not officially supported yet, you can find the latest "Beta" version here. http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51653.105.html
15:46:02TyphoonScotlandYou'll also find prebuilt files for it there. I can highly recommend it, however please be aware that Wodz and the team are currently working on getting the Bluetooth working, so it will NOT work under the Rockbox section of the device yet, however it does still work under the official software due to a Dual Boot Bootloader. =]
15:50:11Digital[m]I don't unterstand the last part. when booting rockbox, does bluetooth work?
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15:51:37TyphoonScotland@Digital[m] Not just yet, it is currently being worked on and will be available in the future.
15:53:00Digital[m]okay
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15:57:15TyphoonScotlandI do know that this is being worked on as and when the developers can work on this, however everything for the device is being built from scratch since AgpTek and Benji have not released the source for the devices. Wodz and the team are working on the device when they have the free time to do so, and I would expect the port to have Bluetooth in the next few months.
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16:08:10Digital[m]ahh I can't decide what media player I should buy
16:20:39TyphoonScotlandI still would highly recommend the AgpTek Rocker, I haven't ever found a better player for the money. I use it all the time and I know once the Rockbox port is completed it will probably go up in price with everyone going out and getting one since I think it's a great replacement for broken iPods and other devices since it uses a MicroSD.
16:25:38Digital[m]yeah the agptek rocket looks like the best option to me too. but there is something off about how agptek represents theirself and their products imo. also, mp3 is lossy, not lossless xD https://www.agptek.com/product/agptek-bluetooth-mp3-player-rocker-v2-high-resolution-digital-audio-player-supports-up-to-256gb-black/#tab-description
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16:28:49TyphoonScotlandCorrect, I do agree there, however I can confirm that the device supports FLAC as I do prefer FLAC over MP3. I will however also add that I can't personally tell the difference via Bluetooth 4.1 since I think there maybe a slight loss of quality using Bluetooth.
16:30:39TyphoonScotlandI have to go right now, however I will check the IRC when I return, so if you do have any questions about the Rocker that I can answer then feel free to ask.
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16:32:55Digital[m]thank you all for answering my questions ^-^
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21:12:24Digital[m]how do I "manually" install rockbox (to an agpt rocket v2 (with round eges))? I'm familiar with terminals but I never installed rockbox
21:13:35SammysHPhmm… I should buy one as well…
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21:22:42TyphoonScotlandTo install Rockbox on the AgpTek Rocker V2, download https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wKUaxM4Zxs2850x5jeVBLI4DvbtbQTCJ/view
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21:23:11TyphoonScotlandThen download https://drive.google.com/file/d/177EBThWmr6_2XIV7cvUDNCOi_vTR6wV9/view
21:25:11TyphoonScotlandOnce both are downloaded, extract the Zip file to your Rocker SD Card. Then move the update_rb.upt to the Rocker SD Card and rename the file update.upt
21:27:57TyphoonScotlandOnce both are on the SD Card, boot up the Rocker V2 and then go to Settings and select "Firmware Update", this will reboot and install the new Dual Boot Bootloader as created by Wodz and the Rockbox team but compiled by Milardo.
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22:24:31cockroachhi. i have a small question about the ipod port: i would like to have my ipod boot to rockbox, regardless of the HOLD switch position (i.e. completely disable any possibilty to boot into the original OS). is this currently possible or would I have to try and patch stuff?
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22:54:17Digital[m]please poke me if you have something, I'll read it
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