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02:03:53 | timetraveler | hello |
02:04:10 | timetraveler | My ipod wont be recognized on my ipod |
02:04:19 | timetraveler | on my computer" |
02:04:52 | timetraveler | it says its connected but it wont show up and theres a usb error |
02:06:21 | cockroach | have you tried a different usb port, usb cable, or a different computer? |
02:06:47 | timetraveler | I dont have another compuet and yes I have tried different usb ports and cables but still nothing |
02:07:16 | timetraveler | Ive also rebooted the ipod like more than 5 times |
02:07:30 | cockroach | are you running linux on the computer? |
02:07:45 | timetraveler | I am running a old windows |
02:08:18 | timetraveler | Windows vista.. |
02:08:35 | cockroach | hmm, that makes it a bit more difficult, I've never used that and my general windows skills are extremely poor |
02:08:56 | cockroach | is the ipod still using the original hard drive? |
02:08:58 | timetraveler | oh... |
02:09:29 | timetraveler | no its using adifferent drive and it worked before but i changed the battery but it doesnt want to get recognized |
02:10:13 | cockroach | hmm, I would have expected it to work even without a battery, but I never tried |
02:10:35 | timetraveler | the ipod can still connect without a battery? |
02:10:37 | cockroach | but the ipod itself starts just fine and works as expected? |
02:11:11 | timetraveler | Yes the ipod is working just fine rockbox is booting up fine everything is there music loads but it just doenst get recognized |
02:11:15 | cockroach | I would think so (my iriver works just fine without its battery), but I never tried with an ipod |
02:11:22 | cockroach | weird |
02:11:33 | cockroach | (I realize that doesn't help much) :) |
02:11:39 | timetraveler | Maybe its a old version of rockbox? |
02:12:35 | cockroach | I don't think that should make a difference, but then I'm not sure. What if you activate the 'hold' switch before you plug it in, does that change anything? |
02:12:57 | timetraveler | let me try |
02:13:06 | cockroach | (and turn it off) |
02:13:17 | timetraveler | Ive connected the ipod before and the ipod only shows up as |
02:13:31 | timetraveler | removable disk |
02:13:35 | timetraveler | aka emprty disk |
02:14:58 | Lonoxmont | what happens if you put the ipod in disk mode |
02:15:15 | timetraveler | How do I put thwe ipod on disk mode? |
02:15:51 | Lonoxmont | reboot with menu+select, as soon as the aple logo appears switch to select+play/pause |
02:15:59 | Lonoxmont | hold until it enters disk mode |
02:16:09 | timetraveler | ok |
02:16:17 | cockroach | I can never remember how to do that :) |
02:16:38 | Lonoxmont | theres also a bonus diagnostic mode if you switch to select+back |
02:16:45 | Lonoxmont | but thats not really useful in this context |
02:17:10 | Lonoxmont | also you might have to have it unplugged from the computer first |
02:17:18 | Lonoxmont | idk if it likes to reboot while plugged in |
02:17:39 | timetraveler | Ive rebootwed the ipod like 10 times already |
02:17:55 | timetraveler | And it didnt go into disk mode... |
02:18:01 | Lonoxmont | the timing is kinda tricky |
02:18:11 | Lonoxmont | you gotta hit it like /right/ when the logo appears |
02:18:19 | Lonoxmont | and hold til it goes into disk mode |
02:18:39 | Lonoxmont | least im assuming this is a modernish ipod |
02:18:50 | Lonoxmont | if its old, theres different combos to hit |
02:19:06 | timetraveler | Its an Ipod classic 6th genersation |
02:19:32 | Lonoxmont | yeah that should be select+menu to reboot then immediately select+play/pause |
02:19:52 | Lonoxmont | you gotta kinda shuffle your hand down if that makes any sense |
02:20:07 | Lonoxmont | like glide right from the first combo to the second, you only have a few ms to do it in |
02:20:09 | timetraveler | yep holding the buttons |
02:20:37 | timetraveler | it takes a pretrfty long time to bioot up |
02:20:40 | Lonoxmont | also it helps if you release the buttons for like a tenth of a second before the second combo, but again the timing is kinda wonky |
02:20:52 | Lonoxmont | least on mine it is |
02:21:09 | Lonoxmont | also, iirc you said you had replaced the hard drive |
02:21:16 | Lonoxmont | what board did you replace it with? |
02:21:22 | timetraveler | and load whenpfft the ipod shut down instead of going into disk mode |
02:21:23 | Lonoxmont | did you make sure the connector was seated properly? |
02:21:49 | timetraveler | yes it is connected |
02:22:00 | Lonoxmont | also, does it work any better with the original battery? on mine the iflash quad board is kinda weird with the new battery i put in it |
02:22:16 | Lonoxmont | but for whatever reason it was more stable on the old worn out battery |
02:22:18 | cockroach | (the combo does work just fine with my 5.5th gen, btw) |
02:22:45 | Lonoxmont | i think the iflash not meant to handle 4x256gb... |
02:22:53 | Lonoxmont | least maybe not this one |
02:22:54 | timetraveler | the battery wou.lldnt even power on the ipod original battery |
02:23:04 | cockroach | nice, 4x256gb |
02:23:36 | Lonoxmont | idk if i just was too greedy or if theres other issues, but the data transfer rate is /so slow/ |
02:23:48 | Lonoxmont | havent tested thigns like rebuyilding rockbox db yet |
02:24:09 | cockroach | hah, that would probably take days… |
02:24:48 | Lonoxmont | ive only got 14k items in my library :P |
02:24:49 | cockroach | timetraveler: any success with the disk mode? |
02:24:53 | timetraveler | the battery does get drained for some reason i installed a bigger battery aldo loading time on ipod is sloww |
02:25:01 | timetraveler | nope still trying |
02:25:09 | Lonoxmont | though tbh i need to go through and prune stupid not needed stuff like text files, iso images, etc |
02:25:10 | * | cockroach never uses the library, seems like a PITA to keep it updated |
02:25:40 | Lonoxmont | eh, when this ipod was on a hard disk it wasnt too incredibly terrible |
02:25:53 | timetraveler | ye |
02:26:16 | Lonoxmont | the whole reason i embarked on this hardware shuffling game was the battery was getting to the point where if it was evena little bit tlow, the strain of spinning the disk up was too much for it and the voltage crashed out and caused reboots |
02:26:35 | Lonoxmont | it worked ok as long as you didnt push it hard |
02:26:40 | Lonoxmont | but the runtime was pretty bad |
02:26:56 | cockroach | yeah, that's no fun |
02:26:58 | timetraveler | all the disk mode thing is doing is shutting down the ipod.. |
02:27:13 | Lonoxmont | maybe bad contact on the select button? |
02:27:23 | Lonoxmont | i know holding play/pause usually is shuit down command |
02:27:31 | timetraveler | :( |
02:27:38 | Lonoxmont | did you disturb any of those cables when you were modding it? |
02:27:48 | timetraveler | no. |
02:27:52 | timetraveler | maybe... |
02:27:56 | Lonoxmont | might be worth a second inspection |
02:28:14 | Lonoxmont | though if select works normally already we know its not broke |
02:28:22 | Lonoxmont | then it just comes down to timing |
02:28:32 | Lonoxmont | idk what the timing is on the classic, i just have the 5.5 |
02:28:33 | timetraveler | the select button works fine |
02:29:02 | timetraveler | The safe to remove button pops up on the desk top thats about it |
02:29:11 | Lonoxmont | hmm |
02:29:24 | Lonoxmont | wonder if they removed it or something |
02:29:34 | timetraveler | removed what? |
02:29:45 | Lonoxmont | like every ipod exce-pt the first and second gen has the same combo to get into disk mode |
02:29:55 | timetraveler | oh |
02:30:15 | Lonoxmont | do you have the original firmware on it as well as rockbox or did you do any reflashing? |
02:30:35 | timetraveler | i only have rockbox installed on it |
02:30:45 | timetraveler | the apple firmware I removed entirely |
02:30:56 | Lonoxmont | that might be why disk mode isnt working :P |
02:31:01 | timetraveler | ooh |
02:31:05 | timetraveler | lolllll |
02:31:25 | timetraveler | disk mode is only for apple firmware I forgot about that |
02:31:32 | Lonoxmont | you may consider trying to put the apple firmware back on it, at least for testing purposes |
02:32:04 | timetraveler | But I have all my music on it and I want to remove all the music first before doing that |
02:32:37 | cockroach | there are instructions regarding the 6th gen ipod on https://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Restore_iPod_without_iTunes - maybe those work for you |
02:33:12 | cockroach | also, I'm pretty sure I don't have any apple stuff left on my ipod's memory card but the disk mode still works. would appear to be built-in somehow. |
02:33:21 | timetraveler | Is it possible to use Apple firmare with 200gb of storage or greator rockbnox is eating away at the battery.. |
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02:34:07 | Lonoxmont | there are limits in how much storage some models of ipod can address due to how apple implemented logical block addressing |
02:34:19 | timetraveler | Im having mounting issues for the ipod wityh rockbox It was working last time... |
02:34:32 | timetraveler | oh |
02:34:33 | Lonoxmont | least with the og firmware, idk if rockbox can work around that |
02:34:59 | timetraveler | rockbox works around it but idk whats eating away at the battery... |
02:35:15 | Lonoxmont | maybe you got a bad/fake battery? |
02:35:23 | Lonoxmont | i know its hard to find good ones on ebay |
02:35:36 | timetraveler | but it says on the booting screen its 3000mah |
02:36:54 | Lonoxmont | is that just what you told it the battery is? |
02:37:02 | Lonoxmont | or does it have some way to determine the capacity? |
02:37:21 | timetraveler | the ipod itself says it in the start menu when booting up |
02:37:47 | Lonoxmont | 1yeah, but how did it find this information? afaik the battery is just a dumb block of foil and lithium |
02:38:06 | Lonoxmont | if you are lucky with charging/discharging protection circuit board |
02:38:29 | timetraveler | afaik? |
02:38:30 | cockroach | I think you can configure the capacity in rockbox, so I always assumed that there's no way for rockbox to figure it out on its own |
02:38:40 | Lonoxmont | as far as i know |
02:38:52 | timetraveler | Im not sure I just put in the battery and it just showed up ?... |
02:39:12 | timetraveler | Yea ive tried that before but nothing changes |
02:39:17 | cockroach | but then, on one of my ipods it says "400mah" and I don't think I configured that, so maybe it *can* tell. |
02:39:57 | timetraveler | I have configured it before but it goes back to what it was before. |
02:40:10 | cockroach | interesting. |
02:41:14 | timetraveler | :I ive left the ipod plugged in for atleast ha;f an hour and there is still no reading of it on the computer... |
02:42:13 | Lonoxmont | if you had a linux machine around, could do some more checking to see if it shows up at all |
02:42:26 | Lonoxmont | i think in windows you can look in device manager? |
02:42:47 | timetraveler | it says its connected but theres a yellow triangle |
02:42:50 | timetraveler | next to it |
02:43:02 | timetraveler | yea I checked |
02:45:24 | Lonoxmont | hmm |
02:45:32 | Lonoxmont | iirc you said you were on vista |
02:45:44 | Lonoxmont | so idk how much messing around we can do with the devices without crashing it |
02:45:54 | Lonoxmont | i know its not the worlds most stable os |
02:47:35 | timetraveler | :I Yea its crashed from having too many tabs open beore |
02:48:40 | timetraveler | before* |
02:49:34 | timetraveler | Doesn't make any sense its worked before when I reboot the ipod.. |
02:49:48 | timetraveler | apparently its another dive letter. |
02:51:08 | timetraveler | Whats the name of that software where it helps you install Rockbox manually and it also finds if the device is connected?.. |
02:52:58 | timetraveler | What does DFU do? |
02:53:36 | Lonoxmont | direct firmware update mode i think |
02:53:52 | Lonoxmont | basically puts the ipod in a mode where you can write to the firmware storage i think |
02:54:00 | timetraveler | will that clear all the dat on the device? |
02:54:04 | Lonoxmont | idk i dont have an ipod with that function so i dont know much about it |
02:54:16 | timetraveler | oh ok |
02:55:48 | timetraveler | There are other options in rockbox setting it has other USB designs |
02:55:48 | Lonoxmont | if i were you i would try and get the data out with a linux live environment or something |
02:56:15 | timetraveler | But I dont have linuxx D; |
02:56:25 | Lonoxmont | then again with disk mode gone unless theres something built into the low level device firmware, idk how you are going to get it to just show up as mass storage |
02:56:56 | timetraveler | yeaa it would pop up as a mass storage device.. |
02:57:06 | Lonoxmont | under the rockbox usb settings you dont want it set to like |
02:57:11 | Lonoxmont | the usb media key things |
02:57:24 | timetraveler | why not? |
02:57:27 | Lonoxmont | i dont remember what you have to set it to to get rockbox to just expose storage |
02:57:41 | Lonoxmont | because otherwise it shows as input peripheral and not storage |
02:57:43 | timetraveler | there are three options there |
02:58:06 | timetraveler | whats an input peripheral? |
02:58:16 | Lonoxmont | like a keyboard or mouse |
02:58:31 | timetraveler | Would that be a good idea? |
02:58:40 | Lonoxmont | not if you want to access the storage instead |
02:58:49 | timetraveler | ooh |
02:58:54 | timetraveler | let me try that |
02:58:55 | Lonoxmont | afaik rockbox can only be one kind of usb device at a time\ |
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02:59:06 | timetraveler | yea it can |
02:59:16 | Lonoxmont | if its acting as a media controller (basically a very small very specific keyboard with just media control keys) |
02:59:24 | Lonoxmont | then afaik you cant hit the storage part of it |
02:59:31 | Lonoxmont | least on mine i had issues |
02:59:37 | timetraveler | oh |
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03:00:05 | timetraveler | Why is mty Ipod so slow? |
03:00:43 | Lonoxmont | well for one they dont have much hardware in them |
03:00:57 | Lonoxmont | for two its over at best a usb 2.0 interface, unless they upgraded that on the newer gens |
03:01:17 | timetraveler | oh |
03:01:22 | Lonoxmont | for three you could be having problems with whatever solid state storage you put in it |
03:01:27 | timetraveler | What does USB HID do? |
03:01:35 | Lonoxmont | hid is human interface device |
03:01:37 | Lonoxmont | so a keyboard |
03:01:39 | Lonoxmont | or mouse |
03:01:57 | Lonoxmont | in this case its like havbing a small keyboard that jsut has the media keys for play pause etc on it |
03:02:13 | timetraveler | Im using a solid state drive on my ipod... |
03:02:23 | Lonoxmont | like idk if you remember but in the like 2000s there was a thing for a while with play pause skip buttons on keyboards |
03:02:34 | Lonoxmont | the usb hid is that but on the ipod |
03:02:42 | timetraveler | oh |
03:02:53 | timetraveler | I never really heard of that |
03:03:00 | Lonoxmont | yeah it wasnt super popular |
03:03:02 | Lonoxmont | or like |
03:03:08 | Lonoxmont | super well standardised i think |
03:03:26 | timetraveler | Should I set the USB port to browser? |
03:03:28 | Lonoxmont | you could find that on laptops a lot more often than full keyboards for computers |
03:03:42 | Lonoxmont | uhhh |
03:03:50 | Lonoxmont | i think i had to set mine to none |
03:03:57 | Lonoxmont | then it would show up |
03:04:11 | timetraveler | theres no option for none |
03:04:18 | Lonoxmont | play with it and see if anything works |
03:04:26 | Lonoxmont | shouldnt hurt anything |
03:04:32 | timetraveler | Multimedia presentation mouse and Browser aare the only options |
03:04:44 | timetraveler | alright |
03:05:13 | timetraveler | The battery is always on low for some odd reason |
03:06:04 | timetraveler | How would configuring the battery on rockbox make it any better? |
03:07:15 | Lonoxmont | far as i know that configuration is just so it can calculate remaning runtime and such |
03:07:23 | timetraveler | oh |
03:08:06 | timetraveler | browsing through the library is very pathy as in it doesnt run smoothly through the list |
03:08:11 | timetraveler | when scrolling |
03:08:25 | Lonoxmont | what storage did you put in the ipod? |
03:08:33 | timetraveler | and it takes a tremendous amount of time to load one song |
03:08:43 | Lonoxmont | because its sounding like it might be having issues |
03:08:44 | timetraveler | uhh.......... 1TB... |
03:08:56 | Lonoxmont | i mean msata, sd, what |
03:09:03 | timetraveler | idk it was working before... |
03:09:09 | timetraveler | msata |
03:09:21 | Lonoxmont | ive heard bad things about the msata adapters |
03:09:27 | Lonoxmont | they get hot and use a lot of power |
03:09:33 | timetraveler | oh no...... |
03:09:33 | Lonoxmont | maybe it baked itself |
03:09:49 | timetraveler | ive inspected it it loks fine..... |
03:09:56 | timetraveler | looks* |
03:09:57 | Lonoxmont | though on the plus side if you have an msata cable and a port ony our machine you migth be able to mount the drive directly and get the data off it |
03:10:22 | timetraveler | yea I thought that would be a better idea... |
03:10:51 | timetraveler | does msata work smothly with ipods? |
03:11:09 | Lonoxmont | like i said, ive not heard great thigns about msata adapters |
03:11:13 | timetraveler | I spent a lot of money on this drive............................... |
03:11:46 | timetraveler | its no wonder my ipod started burning out of nowhere... |
03:12:12 | timetraveler | Might as well return it then... |
03:12:37 | Lonoxmont | ive had modest luck with the iflash quad adapter |
03:12:44 | Lonoxmont | still some weird issues now and then though |
03:12:56 | Lonoxmont | you might consider getting one of those pata ssd cards |
03:13:04 | Lonoxmont | would sidestep needing an adaptor entirely |
03:13:06 | * | cockroach is using iflash sd and compactflash adapters |
03:13:09 | Lonoxmont | though the size would suffer as a result |
03:13:12 | cockroach | they work quite well |
03:13:27 | timetraveler | what do you mean size ? |
03:13:38 | Lonoxmont | like they didnt really make pata ssd in large sizes |
03:13:49 | timetraveler | oh okay |
03:13:49 | Lonoxmont | it was kind of a footnote technologically |
03:14:26 | timetraveler | the msata might be causing my ipod to run slow then... |
03:14:37 | Lonoxmont | also keep in mind |
03:14:45 | Lonoxmont | ipods were never meant to be computing powerhouses |
03:14:49 | Lonoxmont | they have like what |
03:14:53 | Lonoxmont | 64mb of ram? |
03:14:56 | Lonoxmont | on the newer ones? |
03:14:58 | timetraveler | yea |
03:15:03 | Lonoxmont | older ones were even worse |
03:15:09 | Lonoxmont | your 5.5 only has 32 iirc |
03:15:33 | Lonoxmont | so that means mostly the firmware runs off the mass storage |
03:15:34 | timetraveler | Its a sixth.. |
03:15:41 | Lonoxmont | so if theres issues there, the ipod is going to run wonky |
03:15:43 | timetraveler | yea |
03:16:15 | timetraveler | ive had that happen earlier the battery was running low I believe and the screen started glitching |
03:16:17 | Lonoxmont | if i were you i would reflash the apple firmware onto it so ytou get back disk mode, and dual boot rockbox with it just so you have something that is known good |
03:16:32 | Lonoxmont | after you get yourt stuff off it of course |
03:17:02 | timetraveler | wouldn't that absorb more battery? |
03:17:39 | Lonoxmont | if rockbox is running the original firmware isnt afaik |
03:17:45 | Lonoxmont | so its a bit of a moot point |
03:18:00 | Lonoxmont | and your battery is already going to not be great because of the msata |
03:18:16 | Lonoxmont | this assuming you got a legit battery and not some fake one from ebay |
03:18:34 | Lonoxmont | with a fake or weak one from ebay the problem is worse because you have less capacity to begin with |
03:18:41 | timetraveler | It was from another site.... nut was delivered with ebay? |
03:18:58 | Lonoxmont | so you bought from a reseller |
03:19:02 | Lonoxmont | same deal |
03:19:04 | timetraveler | it was* |
03:19:13 | Lonoxmont | if they are sourcing from ebay you just made your cost higher |
03:19:16 | timetraveler | dang |
03:19:37 | timetraveler | it was only $10.00 |
03:19:53 | Lonoxmont | you get what you pay for, especially with chineseium ebay stuff |
03:20:03 | Lonoxmont | if a deal seems too good to be true it is |
03:20:21 | Lonoxmont | that 3000 mah battery might be lucky to clock in at half that |
03:20:24 | timetraveler | ;I |
03:20:33 | Lonoxmont | i mean its still gobs better than stock |
03:20:40 | Lonoxmont | but still not what it seems |
03:21:01 | Lonoxmont | anyhow, i have to go |
03:21:02 | timetraveler | well the msata or lithium arwent a good duo? |
03:21:13 | timetraveler | aw alright |
03:21:26 | Lonoxmont | try another adapter is my advice, along with not wiping the apple firmware |
03:21:33 | timetraveler | thanks for the info! |
03:21:51 | Lonoxmont | afaik rockbox can sometimes do weird thigns with the usb stuff, especially if you ar emoving a large amount of data |
03:22:03 | Lonoxmont | disk mode takes that out of the equation |
03:22:15 | timetraveler | yea |
03:22:44 | Lonoxmont | anyhow, im out |
03:22:55 | timetraveler | kay |
03:23:26 | timetraveler | dang I forgot to ask |
03:23:32 | timetraveler | whats a good battery? |
03:23:36 | timetraveler | !? |
03:26:18 | timetraveler | The ipod mounted a removable disk ... |
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03:37:27 | timetraveler | cockroach The most the baterry pops up to is a removable drive but nothing else.. |
03:37:51 | timetraveler | the device* |
03:38:54 | cockroach | hmm sorry, so far I haven't replaced any of my batteries so I really don't know whether that could be the issue |
03:40:19 | timetraveler | right i meant device not battery |
03:40:37 | cockroach | ah |
03:40:56 | cockroach | well, a removable drive is pretty much the thing you want from rockbox, isn't it? |
03:41:45 | timetraveler | yea but the disk shows up as empty but it isnt and the computer managment disk management says it has storage |
03:42:06 | timetraveler | I am not able to access my storage |
03:44:05 | cockroach | does it show as empty and formatted, or as empty and unusable? |
03:44:28 | timetraveler | empty and formatted |
03:44:44 | cockroach | what happens if you put files on it? does rockbox see them? |
03:45:13 | timetraveler | hold on |
03:45:41 | timetraveler | nothing happens |
03:45:57 | timetraveler | nvm |
03:46:11 | timetraveler | its copying the files |
03:47:09 | timetraveler | it askes to format the disk despite there being no disk |
03:47:22 | cockroach | hm |
03:47:31 | cockroach | i would recommend against that :) |
03:47:39 | timetraveler | yea i know |
03:47:48 | timetraveler | it will wipe all my data |
03:49:45 | timetraveler | so apparently the J drive is apple attempting to hijack the ipod there is another drive thats not showing up that is rockbox |
03:50:15 | timetraveler | everytime I connect or reset the device itunes opops up |
03:50:22 | cockroach | heh |
03:51:02 | timetraveler | theres a rockbox utility that helps find that |
03:51:24 | timetraveler | i have to disconnect the ipod it feels like its going to melt |
03:51:50 | cockroach | ouch |
03:52:30 | cockroach | I'm not sure I would be comfortable with that battery |
03:52:57 | timetraveler | ive heard its the only types of batteries for ipods.. |
03:55:01 | timetraveler | so idk |
03:55:08 | cockroach | well sorry, I wish I could help you but I'm somewhat out of ideas. You could try the rockbox forums, there might be people there who know stuff. |
03:55:30 | cockroach | also, it's getting rather late (or early) and I should get some sleep... |
03:55:30 | timetraveler | ;I alright |
03:55:39 | cockroach | close to 4 AM here :) |
03:55:40 | timetraveler | waitt |
03:55:45 | timetraveler | fang |
03:55:47 | timetraveler | dang |
03:56:06 | timetraveler | whats that program that you manually insta lrock box |
03:56:14 | timetraveler | its a zip file |
03:56:33 | cockroach | https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility ? |
03:56:47 | timetraveler | yes thank you |
03:56:50 | cockroach | you're welcome |
03:56:55 | timetraveler | thanks for the heelp |
03:57:04 | cockroach | no worries. good luck with your ipod! |
03:57:28 | timetraveler | thannnks |
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17:40:47 | asymsucon | Just bought another Clip Zip, expanding my sansa collection to 13 DAPs. Since it's battery is near dead, I'm wondering if 40000mAh LiIon is adequate replacement, or a tiny bit overkill. |
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18:10:03 | asymsucon | never mind, found just the right battery for it -> https://i.imgur.com/KcAlpKb.jpg |
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20:07:03 | bertrik | asymsucon: nice :) |
20:07:25 | bertrik | I don't really believe such battery will fit inside the clip zip :) |
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