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| 04:21:22 | Azurus | Speaking of batteries, would the firmware for the iPod Classic Gen7 that has a mod for a 3000mAh battery be supported? The firmware settings only show it going up to 1000mAh. Is there a way of changing this? |
| 04:26:03 | __builtin | Changing the limit is possible, yes |
| 04:26:22 | __builtin | I do doubt whether you actually have a 3Ah battery though |
| 04:29:26 | Azurus | https://www.idemigods.com/3000mAh_iPod_High_Capacity_Replacement_Battery_p/6g_bttry_hghcpcty.htm |
| 04:29:34 | Azurus | They do indeed exist. |
| 04:33:27 | Azurus | As for changing the limit, in the battery settings it only shows a selection up to 1000mAh. How would I increase that? |
| 04:39:28 | __builtin | You'd have to rebuild from source |
| 04:39:49 | __builtin | The limit is probably defined as a macro somewhere that you'd have to change |
| 04:40:21 | Azurus | That is something I am not educated on how to do. |
| 04:54:04 | __builtin | https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevelopmentGuide |
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| 06:10:32 | Azurus | That is all greek to me. |
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| 06:19:20 | Timetraveler | Hey it's me again for the second time. Ive been meaning to talk about mini sd cards and its prices. I've found a mini sd card for $70.00 its said to be 1TB is this price fair and not a scam? |
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| 06:23:46 | __builtin | I'd be moderately cautious... that's a very good price but not ridiculous |
| 06:23:56 | Timetraveler | Yea. |
| 06:24:21 | Timetraveler | :U Im planning on changing the msata drive that I have on my ipod |
| 06:24:36 | Timetraveler | And exchangng it to mini sdcards |
| 06:24:55 | Timetraveler | And putting it in with The iflash quad adapter |
| 06:26:04 | Timetraveler | :I I don't want to spend $300.00 on a 1TB especially when there is higher storage capacity available today so it should be cheaper... |
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| 06:31:58 | Timetraveler | Is newegg known for scamming its consumers? |
| 06:35:30 | Azurus | Timetraveler: Are you also using the extended 3000mAh battery? If so, how are you increasing the charging point for the battery within rockbox? |
| 06:36:59 | Timetraveler | I have put the 3000mH battery inside the Ipod along with the Msata drive as I will remove in a shoert amount |
| 06:37:35 | Timetraveler | Since the msata is pulling to much power from the battery |
| 06:37:54 | Azurus | How have you been able to charge the battery to the full 3000mA capacity when the firmware only goes up to 1000mA |
| 06:38:34 | Timetraveler | The rockbox firmare has limitations? |
| 06:39:04 | Timetraveler | I charge it with the regular Ipod charger |
| 06:39:44 | Timetraveler | It charges all the way but once its booted up the battery is already drained from the drive |
| 06:39:56 | Timetraveler | And loading time |
| 06:41:59 | Azurus | Go into Settings>General Settings>System>+Battery |
| 06:41:59 | Azurus | In there you will find Battery Capacity where its highest limit is 1000mAh. |
| 06:42:12 | Timetraveler | So I figured if I changed it to a micro sd card it will draw less power and allow better run time and loading speeds |
| 06:42:18 | Timetraveler | Oh |
| 06:42:22 | Azurus | This is my concern on this as well because I would like to upgrade the iPod Classic Gen7 to a 3000mAh as well, but if its only charging to the 1000mAh limit, thats 2/3rds of the battery going to waste. |
| 06:43:29 | Timetraveler | Hmmm right |
| 06:43:34 | Azurus | Your 3000mAh battery is only getting charge a third of the way because of the firmware limitation. |
| 06:43:50 | Timetraveler | wow |
| 06:44:34 | Azurus | This is why I popped into the chat because I was wondering if anyone else has figured out how to change this. |
| 06:44:35 | Timetraveler | i mean it says its 3800mah on the ipod and goes down to 3600mah and it still powers on |
| 06:45:16 | Timetraveler | Yea Im not a expert at this stuff |
| 06:45:53 | Timetraveler | But someone had told me that it isn't a good battery to us for the ipod because of the flash that im using with it as it heats up and it could be danger |
| 06:45:59 | Timetraveler | dangerous |
| 06:48:14 | Azurus | Where do you find your mAh stats on your ipod? I want to locate this on mine. |
| 06:50:29 | Timetraveler | It is located on... |
| 06:52:27 | Timetraveler | System > Rockbox info |
| 06:52:47 | Timetraveler | If that is what you're refering to |
| 06:53:34 | Azurus | That doesnt show you the mAh of the battery, just the current percentage based on the voltage its outputting. Voltage and amperage are two different things. |
| 06:53:49 | Timetraveler | Oh..... |
| 06:54:33 | Timetraveler | Hang on |
| 06:55:00 | Azurus | Once the voltage reaches the cutout level indicated in the firmware, thats when the device shuts down and needs charging. The amperage is the overall capacity of the battery. |
| 06:55:34 | Timetraveler | Rockbox > settings > General settings > System > Battery > Battery capacity |
| 06:55:57 | Azurus | 3.3volts, but you could have it at 4000mAh, meaning it can sustain that output. |
| 06:57:16 | Azurus | That is not showing you the mAh of the battery, thats just telling the firmware what mA your battery is inside and to what level to charge it to. Going above the rating for your battery is dangerous and can cause it to rupture and most likely catch fire. |
| 06:57:27 | Timetraveler | I've supposedly had a 4000mah battery but it only allowed me to use 1000mah |
| 06:57:50 | Timetraveler | Wow |
| 06:57:54 | Azurus | Right, so your battery is only being charged up to 1000mAh. |
| 06:58:41 | Timetraveler | I mean what's the point of limiting it to 1000mah when you have 40,000 songs you need to load? It doesn't add up |
| 06:58:48 | Azurus | Hence why I am here with this very question on if theres a way of incresing that level in the firmware for aftermarket batteries that go above the 1000mAh level. |
| 06:59:18 | Timetraveler | Yea im not about that but |
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| 06:59:44 | Azurus | Its limited to 1000mAh because those batteries above that rating probably didnt exist at the time of the firmware being written, and never was considered. |
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| 07:00:05 | Timetraveler | they should update it..... |
| 07:00:17 | Azurus | And I would LOVE that if they did. |
| 07:00:41 | Timetraveler | I cant load anything on my ipod with a 1000mah limitation |
| 07:00:45 | Azurus | That would mean with the microSD boards you can get, you could have an ipod last probably a week. |
| 07:01:42 | Timetraveler | speaking of mircoSD. In comparison with SSD msata how much power does it consume vs MicroSD??? |
| 07:01:58 | Azurus | Let me link to you where I found out about the batteries I want, and you can also find other parts for repairing your ipod. |
| 07:02:16 | Azurus | https://www.idemigods.com/3000mAh_iPod_High_Capacity_Replacement_Battery_p/6g_bttry_hghcpcty.htm |
| 07:02:28 | Timetraveler | Thank you! |
| 07:02:42 | Timetraveler | I bought this battery already... |
| 07:02:54 | Timetraveler | For $10.00 |
| 07:03:18 | Timetraveler | They really need to change that 1000mah limitation |
| 07:04:08 | Timetraveler | I found these micro sd cards for a very low price but I'm very unsure if its a scam |
| 07:04:11 | Timetraveler | https://www.newegg.com/p/1B4-02N6-00058?Item=9SIABJCAFZ2426 |
| 07:04:29 | Azurus | I am not sure on the power consumption, but I did watch a video on someone loading 4 microSD cards into it up to the 1TB limit, let me find that video for you |
| 07:04:44 | Timetraveler | :0 |
| 07:05:07 | Timetraveler | Can the ipod exceed 1TB?? |
| 07:05:26 | Azurus | This is what led me down this path of mods, because my battery was giving out.... |
| 07:05:43 | Timetraveler | Me too |
| 07:06:00 | Timetraveler | I bought a brand new battery! |
| 07:06:07 | Azurus | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHzFoN8ob-s |
| 07:06:24 | Timetraveler | And it should have lasted way longer than the older 780mah battery I used to have but its still the same |
| 07:06:28 | Azurus | looks like the gen7 works the best for this, same one I have. |
| 07:06:55 | Timetraveler | Ooh Ive seen this video |
| 07:07:10 | Timetraveler | Yea ive heard the iflash quad is the best iflash |
| 07:07:13 | Timetraveler | adapter |
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| 07:07:26 | Azurus | And its where I want to go with this. |
| 07:07:32 | Timetraveler | yess me too |
| 07:07:59 | Timetraveler | Im ditching the ssd card since that draws too much power and it hardly ever loads with the 1000mah limitation |
| 07:08:15 | Azurus | But for the battery to work properly, there needs to be the change to the rockbox firmware to support the 3000mAh limitations. |
| 07:08:25 | Timetraveler | Yes! |
| 07:08:37 | Timetraveler | We have to inform the rockbox team about this! |
| 07:09:00 | Timetraveler | I never really understood why the battery was cut so short and i found that it only went up to 1000mah |
| 07:09:00 | Azurus | This is my hope where this will all go. |
| 07:09:39 | Azurus | Again, because these large capacity batteries were never considered at the time of the firmwares creation. |
| 07:09:46 | Timetraveler | Many people did complain that rockbox was draining everyones batter but rockbox didnt really listen |
| 07:09:48 | Timetraveler | yea |
| 07:10:26 | Timetraveler | its states on one page FAQ that if your battery is runnin low well too bad" |
| 07:10:52 | Timetraveler | Wait but |
| 07:11:35 | Timetraveler | How did the person in the video manage to surpass 127GB limit on itunes last time I tries 1TB with itunes it didn't work.... |
| 07:11:47 | Azurus | I actually had better battery life when I switched over to rockbox, and the golden goose for me was I didn't have to use some shitty frontend like apples software to get my music and podcasts onto it. |
| 07:12:02 | Timetraveler | Yea |
| 07:12:06 | Azurus | He seemed to manage it. |
| 07:13:10 | Timetraveler | :I thats strange i dont like otunes anyway for some odd reason it takes the files in the software and only edits it there but the files can be accessed throught USB hub on the device its name the strange files XCVS |
| 07:13:18 | Timetraveler | Itunes* |
| 07:13:52 | Timetraveler | Exporting files from the device while using itunes is also another hassle |
| 07:14:17 | Azurus | I just like to be able to connect the device, drag and drop my files like I used to be able to do with the good ole Creative Zen back in the day. |
| 07:14:24 | Timetraveler | I'll just stick with rockbox simce its simpler |
| 07:14:40 | Timetraveler | yea For some short time |
| 07:15:29 | Timetraveler | My 1TB ssd was workin fine with the ipod but over time the battery died faster and now that i changed the battery and reconnected it to the computer it doesn't want to recognize it |
| 07:16:01 | Timetraveler | So i cant remove the data from the ssd |
| 07:16:12 | Timetraveler | And Im gonna have to do it manually |
| 07:16:30 | Timetraveler | using yet another adapter to connect the ssd to the computer directly |
| 07:17:03 | Azurus | I think sticking with microSD's is the key here. |
| 07:17:13 | Timetraveler | Yep |
| 07:17:26 | Timetraveler | I should have thought if that from the beginning |
| 07:17:37 | Azurus | Anyhow, I am going to kick off for the night. I PM'ed you as well. |
| 07:17:45 | Timetraveler | okay |
| 07:18:19 | Timetraveler | ): |
| 07:18:23 | Timetraveler | So much work |
| 07:21:12 | Timetraveler | Would a 1TB Ssd draw more power than a 1TB Micro sd?? |
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| 10:02:44 | Timetraveler | I've looked almost everywhere but couldn't find anything |
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| 22:06:45 | Timetraveler | Why is it that the Rockbox team has made a limitation of 1000mah usage on the firmware and for batteries over 1000mah. A 1000mah battery won't be sufficient enough to power 40,000 songs. What's the point of using rockbox if it won't allow the device to power up efficiently. |
| 22:08:47 | gevaerts | There is no such limitation |
| 22:11:09 | Timetraveler | then why is it that the battery only works for ashort ammount of time? |
| 22:12:09 | gevaerts | The most common reason for that is that you have a bad battery |
| 22:12:46 | Timetraveler | It's a brand new battery?/// |
| 22:13:53 | Timetraveler | I've heard rockbox only allows to use only 1000mah of the battery regardless it being above 1000mah |
| 22:14:09 | gevaerts | That's nonsense of the purest sort |
| 22:14:34 | gevaerts | And it's actually impossible. Rockbox has no idea what sort of capacity your battery has and can't influence it |
| 22:14:36 | Timetraveler | hmmmm |
| 22:15:14 | Timetraveler | why is it that the battery settings for only go up to 1000mah? |
| 22:15:29 | Timetraveler | for rockbox* |
| 22:16:51 | gevaerts | First of all, the limit of that setting is not *just* 1000mAh, it depends on the specific device |
| 22:17:15 | gevaerts | The maximum is based on what was commonly available at the time that code was last changed |
| 22:17:26 | Timetraveler | oh |
| 22:17:52 | Timetraveler | so it was updated? |
| 22:18:13 | gevaerts | That setting is *only* used to calculated the displayed estimated remaining time though, so it doesn't actually matter for anything that actually happens |
| 22:18:48 | Timetraveler | hmmm... |
| 22:18:56 | gevaerts | Well, I have no idea which device you have, so I have to speak in general terms. I assume that limit will have been changed at some point for some devices, yes. |
| 22:20:12 | Timetraveler | could it be the firmware version that I have? |
| 22:20:26 | Timetraveler | I have a Ipod classic6th gen |
| 22:22:50 | gevaerts | It's possible that there is a bug that increases power consumption of course |
| 22:24:13 | Timetraveler | How am I suppost to fix that? |
| 22:26:03 | gevaerts | First of all verify. What does the Apple firmware do? |
| 22:37:16 | Timetraveler | It takes a very long time to boot up and loading time takes tremendous amounts of time once its booted up the full battery is already down to its final life |
| 22:38:25 | Timetraveler | Loading a song takes about an hour |
| 22:38:45 | Timetraveler | scrolling thrpugh the list is very choppy |
| 22:40:22 | Timetraveler | because tha battery for some reason keeps dying faster than I could boot up the device |
| 22:41:32 | Timetraveler | I figured it has to do with the drive but also rockbox |
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| 23:23:43 | Timetraveler | alright ill come back later |
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