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#rockbox log for 2020-02-09

00:00:52 Quit reductum (Quit: WeeChat 2.7)
00:02:51TimetravelerrHow come Rockbox moderators didn't build the Play count as a seperate section on rockbox
00:03:13TimetravelerrInstead of putting it in the Database
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00:04:35Timetravelerr Is anyone alive
00:05:11Aldemno
00:05:32TimetravelerrCan you help me with something?!
00:05:36TimetravelerrIts really quick
00:06:06TimetravelerrMy disk only loads as a removable disk...
00:06:20TimetravelerrIf I try to access it is says to insert a disk
00:06:28AldemNot really a rockbox issue though
00:06:33AldemWhy ask in here ?
00:06:48TimetravelerrI asked in Rockbox community but they told me to come here
00:07:02AldemStill not a rockbox issue
00:07:11TimetravelerrAnd I have no where else to ask
00:07:30AldemMaybe ##hardware ##windows or google
00:07:41TimetravelerrThank you very much
00:08:16TimetravelerrIt says I have to register to chat...
00:10:35TimetravelerrFor the channel Hardware
00:12:52AldemWell either way, #rockbox is about issues with rockbox
00:16:46TimetravelerrOkay
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00:38:36 Nick mendelmunkis is now known as mendel_munkis (~mendelmun@ool-435467d5.dyn.optonline.net)
00:39:11mendel_munkisFWIW I find contributing via gerrit easier than github.
00:39:34mendel_munkisAlso I'm willing to donate time to the transition.
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00:41:48__builtinmakes three of us :)
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08:19:27Prisoner416*sees the note about Haxx ending hosting*
08:19:37Prisoner416*proceeds to enter panic mode*
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08:23:14globalcslow manic, until end of the year..
08:24:11globalcpanic even
08:24:25Prisoner416I wish they could just transfer the hosting or some such, the site and project are something I still use quite often.
08:25:10Prisoner416Going to miss the style of the page if it ends up being forked to a github or some such, plus the rockbox utility will have to be redone for whatever new hosts.
08:26:12Prisoner416Feels almost like the end of a glorious era. I remember rockboxing my first sansa clip+. Would have bought a bunch of fuzes back then as well if I had known they existed and were capable.
08:26:43Prisoner416*hugs their v2 close*
08:27:20*globalc just got a new/old fuze+ this week
08:27:56Prisoner416I have yet to find another comparable product that does what rockbox can for the fuze. Never tried fuze+ because of the touchscreen deal I heard was hell.
08:28:16globalcnot used, but has been in some ware house for years, battery was completely depleted. So they are still available.
08:28:43Prisoner416...I could probably buy one easy on ebay I see them often enough. Original Fuzes in box are rare though.
08:29:15Prisoner416I spent a good deal on mine, and when i opened it when my used one died, i found that the back rubber melted in storage from original owner, fun fun.
08:29:48Prisoner416Although alcohol got most of it off and it's still fairly pristine.
08:30:56Prisoner416If sansa had any sense, they'd remake the fuze and add a few things like bluetooth. There's obviously a market for the player, although i think most of that is thanks to rockbox.
08:32:58Prisoner416I would get an ipod, but the no sd card thing always pissed me off. I'd have to buy one prehacked, and those are expensive.
08:34:23Prisoner416I wish the android port for rockbox had progressed.
08:34:59Prisoner416I'm just... ocd addicted to my layout and to the style cabbie-enhancedinfo offers.
08:35:35globalcthe fuze+ is quite nice, just the input fields could be better.
08:37:33Prisoner416I recall there were a lot of complaints about the controls, though.
08:38:33globalcnot surprised.. there is no haptic feedback at all.
08:39:18Prisoner416I kind of miss my old Creative Zen Micro.
08:39:48Prisoner416Even with the small size and limited file support and old text only no color display... it was my first.
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08:41:33Prisoner416But yeah I see fuze+ on ebay fairly often in box. Not sure if I should buy one just for fun. I think most people even on the sandisk forums viewed it as a step backwards from the fuze, though.
08:45:37globalcalong with the fuze+, I had ordered a Fiio M3k. No proper port, there was a single drop of a rockbox port from the vendor apparently.
08:45:59globalcthe controls are also flaky/no feedback, like fuze+
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09:00:42Prisoner416The only real issue with fuze is not much memory, it's fine for music but it will not play nice with rockbox quake, duke3d, or doom.
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12:31:56Demosthenextrying to use the gui installer on windoze 10 for an older sansa fuse+, got the firmware and all ok, but the program hangs (not responding) at "Patching file" and says 100%.
12:32:47Demosthenexzip format detected, extracting firmware .sb, downloading bootloader, download finished, patching file and hung
12:34:52Demosthenexwas looking for a log, looks like if i unplug the sansa it'll error out prompting me to save. first time i tried to kill the proc, i'll post the log
12:35:17Demosthenexhttps://bpaste.net/5WVQ
12:36:45Demosthenexline 1146: [:0 WARNING] QObject::connect: No such signal QThread::terminated(), that's a qt error, not very descriptive to me
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12:48:21blbro[m]Doesn't look like a problem to me. Seems copying the firmware file to the player fails in some way. Can you write to the player? I.e. copy something to it using Explorer.
12:49:02blbro[m]Or does a file d:\firmware.sb exist? If so remove it. Iirc an existing file isn't silently overwritten.
12:49:14Demosthenexi'm trying another cable and a copy
12:55:02Demosthenexmight also be flakey hardware. wonder if the newer sansa is supported: https://www.megekko.nl/product/2745/751098/MP3-player/Hama-Clip-Jam-SDMX26-008G-G46K-
12:56:36Demosthenexah! fsck error
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13:08:39blbro[m]Only the players mentioned on the website are supported.
13:09:20speachyThe Jam and Sport are highly unlikely to ever end up supported by rockbox due to them having very (very!) limited amounts of RAM.
13:12:14speachythat level of effort would be much better spent on saner architectures, like the hiby-based stuff running on the various Ingenic SoCs.
13:15:53Demosthenexblbro[m]: yeah, i was browsing, just trying to find what i can buy new vs what's supported ;]
13:16:25Demosthenexok, so after fixing the internal storage with fsck, rebooting the player, and retrying the GUI installer it says it succeeded.
13:16:32Demosthenexbut it booted to the original firmware anywa
13:16:58speachyIf you don't mind a really tiny screen, look for a Xduoo X3 (original, not the II version)
13:17:50speachysound quality is top-notch due to a proper line-out, and the hardware itself is about indestructible.
13:19:14speachyI found a new-in-box one a few weeks ago on ebay for under $50.
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13:19:51Demosthenexah! that's a great idea. i'm certainly open to recommendations
13:20:19speachyversus various old Sansas that folks routinely exceed $100, even used.
13:20:29Demosthenexi've had this sansa fuse+ for ages.... it's actually been rock solid. unfortunately my son got it wet when he was using it and decided to take it apart to try and dry it, forcing the casing... it's been weird every since
13:21:03Demosthenexi'd like to get rockbox working on it, and maybe just give it to him... and i'll get me something else
13:21:15speachyThe Fuze+ was decent, but its awful controls (not rockbox's fault) and lack of a proper line out were disappointing.
13:21:51speachymanaged to break the screen on mine, and apparently I tossed it instead of adding it to my pile of broken [rockbox] dreams.
13:22:13speachyAnother modern, and decently-well-supported unit is the AGP Rocker (aka Benjie T6)
13:23:08Demosthenexis the x3 really only 8 hour battery?
13:23:16Demosthenexi rarely have to consider charging my sansa :P
13:23:48speachyyep.
13:24:12speachyI haven'thad the time to explore dynamic reclocking for improved battery life.
13:25:21speachybut before the battery in my first X3 crapped out, I'd usually see life in the >6 hour range. Now it barely handles 3.
13:26:14Demosthenexthat's a shame, given it's got a milspec case ;]
13:26:41speachycase isn't large enough for a decent battery.
13:28:41Demosthenexthe fuse isn't very large either
13:29:34speachyit's a _much_ more powerful SoC, running all-out. The original firmware actually runs a full Linux system (that never saw source released)
13:30:02speachythough the most recent 5.6 development kernels just landed some code that might help.
13:31:31Demosthenexha
13:32:29Demosthenexyeah, i guess i'm just looking for good battery life and a microsd card support, given rockbox has all the codecs. i kinda like that the sansa clip has a clip! i have a really hard time finding ways to carry the sansa fuse :P
13:32:30speachythere's definitely some opportunities to improve things (mainly via sleeping/reclocking) but that's going to require a lot of time (from me) that I don't currently have. paid gigs take priority...
13:35:37Demosthenexoh no, i'm well aware open source alternatives are completely volunteer driven and users cannot make demands [
13:35:40Demosthenex=]
13:35:53Demosthenexno pressure at all, but i appreciate your recommendations
13:36:18Demosthenexthough i still can't figure why the installer succeeded and the sansa still booted to the OF
13:36:56speachyis rockbox actually present on the SD card?
13:37:09speachy(just a random guess)
13:37:40Demosthenexthe .rockbox is on the internal storage
13:37:46Demosthenexand twice now on reboot it says "updating"
13:38:17speachysounds like the patch firmware didn't flash properly
13:38:42speachygotta run. doing an alternator swap for a family friend.
13:39:22Demosthenexyeah, i'm redoing it again
13:39:24Demosthenexgood luck! =]
13:47:19Demosthenexyay! reinstall did it!
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