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| 01:31:18 | Lonoxmont | found a divide by zero crash on a file i have |
| 01:31:28 | Lonoxmont | how do i reported bug |
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| 02:28:26 | speachy | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/ |
| 02:29:06 | speachy | that's the proper way.. |
| 02:33:10 | speachy | you could describe it here if it's something simple |
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| 03:19:31 | Lonoxmont | lemme get the steps |
| 03:20:32 | Lonoxmont | hmm, maybe its not this specific track |
| 03:20:46 | Lonoxmont | let me try jumping right to it instead of going from the resume playback point |
| 03:21:36 | Lonoxmont | but rn the screen is white and says divide by zero at 03e8134c (0) |
| 03:22:04 | Lonoxmont | pc:03e8134c sp:40002b28 |
| 03:22:10 | Lonoxmont | bt end |
| 03:22:47 | Lonoxmont | and the ui did seem to be a bit laggy before it crashed, like it wasnt playing what was displayed but the thing before it until it ran out of buffer or w/e |
| 03:24:33 | Lonoxmont | ok yeah it doesnt like this file |
| 03:24:39 | Lonoxmont | going right to it crashes with the same thing |
| 03:24:51 | Lonoxmont | lemme see if skipping past without loading it also crashes |
| 03:25:44 | Lonoxmont | also while im bitching at things, it seems like either ive got dupes in my files or it jus tlikes to pick the same song twice when creating big shuffled playlists |
| 03:25:54 | Lonoxmont | sometimes ive had the literal same song twice for no reason |
| 03:26:05 | Lonoxmont | and in general sometimes it just repeats itself for no discernable reason |
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| 03:27:52 | Lonoxmont | manually skipping past the song that crashes it seems to work |
| 03:28:06 | Lonoxmont | but if it loads anything about that file past the name it dies to death |
| 03:28:27 | Lonoxmont | skipping by going to the playlist that is |
| 03:28:36 | Lonoxmont | even paused it still seems to die on that song |
| 03:28:45 | Lonoxmont | idk if its got a corrupted character in the name or what |
| 03:29:51 | Lonoxmont | speachy: any of that helpful? |
| 03:31:16 | Nugettes | Hey it's me again. I wouldn't want to interrupt your discussion so I'll just leave this question here. It doesn't have to be answered right away. How do I make uncatallocated space useful again? |
| 03:32:09 | Lonoxmont | you need to be more specific |
| 03:32:21 | Lonoxmont | because the answer to that depends on a lot of variables we dont yet have |
| 03:32:37 | Nugettes | Ah okay |
| 03:33:03 | Lonoxmont | so the more you can tell us the better |
| 03:33:59 | speachy | Lonoxmont, what's the file? there's a very good chance it's slightly corrupted and the rockbox decoder isn't sufficiently robust to deal with it |
| 03:34:08 | Nugettes | So My ipod just recently started showing unallocated partition on the disk which I can not access it. I figured I probably wouldn't need linux to get this partition to show. Since before I used disk part to merge all partitions as one. |
| 03:35:14 | speachy | Nugettes, how large is that unallocated section? It's not unusual to see some small slice on most drives due to partition alignment needs |
| 03:35:23 | Lonoxmont | speachy: iirc its an ogg conversion of a youtube video, but im not 100% sure of its provenance. it didnt use to have this issue, so maybe quiet file corruption? |
| 03:35:32 | Nugettes | its 1TB |
| 03:35:40 | speachy | oh, and Loxomont, the target, firmware, etc etc. |
| 03:35:40 | Nugettes | almost 2 |
| 03:35:51 | speachy | that 2TB is pure audio? |
| 03:36:05 | Nugettes | no its empty |
| 03:36:22 | speachy | nevermind, getting wires crossed |
| 03:36:36 | Nugettes | ok lol |
| 03:36:50 | Lonoxmont | speachy: ipod video 5.5 (arm of some kind i think?) , rockbox 3.15 |
| 03:36:50 | speachy | Nuggettes, other than firing up a tool that can mangle partitions.. not much that can be done |
| 03:37:12 | Nugettes | hmm not even diskpart can help this situation? |
| 03:37:24 | Lonoxmont | iflash quad adapter with 4x256gb samsungs iirc |
| 03:37:29 | speachy | if you're not using Linux I'd recommend downloading the gparted live ISO and slapping it on a USB stick. |
| 03:37:35 | Lonoxmont | ^ |
| 03:37:40 | Lonoxmont | gparted live is good shit |
| 03:37:56 | speachy | no sense in fighting with crappy tools, just go with what works. |
| 03:38:25 | Nugettes | hmm right I cant use it on this computer I plan on doing so on the new computer but the new computer doesnt have a HTMI cabgle so im kinda stuck |
| 03:38:58 | Nugettes | cable* |
| 03:39:11 | Lonoxmont | your locla office supply store should have one |
| 03:39:17 | speachy | Lonoxmont, it's certianly possible the file could have silently corrupted itself. Ogg is pretty forgiving though. |
| 03:39:19 | Lonoxmont | as would local computer store |
| 03:39:26 | Nugettes | hmm ok |
| 03:39:34 | Lonoxmont | amazon also would have that |
| 03:40:02 | Lonoxmont | speachy: should i try and fsck or do we not trust the iflash that much |
| 03:40:49 | speachy | I'd try a fsck first, but if there's any way to confirm the file is indeed okay that would be the logical next stop |
| 03:40:51 | speachy | step |
| 03:40:53 | Nugettes | I switched out my mains computers HTMI cable and placed it in the new computer is the computer supposed to show a bios screen to set it up? |
| 03:41:14 | speachy | the iflashes seem to be a little unreliable from what I've heard. |
| 03:41:18 | Nugettes | Nothing appears after it the DELL logo pops up |
| 03:41:55 | Lonoxmont | Nugettes: a bit out of scope for us to set up a computer :V |
| 03:42:07 | Nugettes | true my bad |
| 03:42:08 | Lonoxmont | but if its a prebuilt i would check the drive cables |
| 03:42:20 | Nugettes | its brand new |
| 03:42:46 | Lonoxmont | being new doesnt make cables any less likely to have vibrated loose |
| 03:43:01 | Lonoxmont | they dont selastic them in or anything |
| 03:43:21 | Nugettes | ah ok |
| 03:43:33 | Lonoxmont | assuming its a tower |
| 03:43:50 | Lonoxmont | if its a laptop then usually things hold together fairly well most of the time |
| 03:44:34 | Nugettes | that makes sense |
| 03:45:52 | Lonoxmont | usually for prebuilts the first thing that happens on power up is windows (assuming its got windows installed) goes through its out of box setup process |
| 03:46:22 | Lonoxmont | so itl ask for your network info, microsoft account, set up pending updates etc before you can do anything with it |
| 03:46:50 | Nugettes | yea. |
| 03:46:55 | Lonoxmont | should be fairly quick to jump into that process, if it takes a really long time something might be borked |
| 03:47:26 | Nugettes | but the screen is just blank after Dell logo appears |
| 03:47:45 | Lonoxmont | is there more than one graphics output on that machine? |
| 03:47:52 | Lonoxmont | could be its displaying something on another port |
| 03:48:02 | Lonoxmont | and the hdmi just isnt turned on in the settings |
| 03:48:09 | Lonoxmont | ive had that happen before on a machine |
| 03:48:24 | Lonoxmont | again if its a laptop with a screen then that should just work |
| 03:48:37 | Lonoxmont | but towers can be a little more tricky |
| 03:48:50 | Nugettes | hmm maybe hdmi isnt turned on cause it says the screen will turn off in 4 min the little box with a timer on it displays |
| 03:48:57 | Lonoxmont | also, if its got any addin graphics cards, under windows afaik that disables any onboard graphics |
| 03:49:12 | Nugettes | k |
| 03:49:19 | Lonoxmont | so you would need to plug into the card instead of anything on the motherboard |
| 03:52:55 | Nugettes | how would I access this graphix card? |
| 03:53:48 | Lonoxmont | first things first |
| 03:53:53 | Lonoxmont | what form factor is this machine |
| 03:53:57 | Lonoxmont | is it a laptop or a desktop |
| 03:54:36 | Nugettes | desktop |
| 03:56:08 | Lonoxmont | take a picture of the back with your phone and toss it somewhere we can look at it |
| 03:56:13 | Lonoxmont | imgur is usually easy enough |
| 03:56:37 | Nugettes | ..ff about that the pc is already tucked away... |
| 03:56:50 | Nugettes | Its a HDMi if thats what you mean? |
| 03:57:09 | Lonoxmont | well in any case you will probably need to adjust where cables are plugged in so you need to get it out anyways |
| 03:57:34 | Nugettes | right but right now is not really the time.. |
| 03:57:37 | Lonoxmont | a picture is worth a thousand words, seeing what you see will save us all a lot of time |
| 03:57:56 | Lonoxmont | if the computer isnt working anyways then what use is it? |
| 03:58:18 | Nugettes | it does its just the screen wont show |
| 03:58:27 | Lonoxmont | iif the screen doesnt show |
| 03:58:29 | Lonoxmont | you cant use it |
| 03:58:32 | Lonoxmont | and therefore |
| 03:58:40 | Lonoxmont | for all intents and purposes, its not usefully working |
| 03:58:52 | Nugettes | right |
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| 03:59:36 | Lonoxmont | so drag it out and get a picture of the back where the cables go |
| 03:59:52 | Nugettes | ok |
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| 04:00:05 | Lonoxmont | get a couple from various angles if you can, in case something blocks a view or w/e |
| 04:00:46 | Nugettes | alright |
| 04:16:30 | Lonoxmont | we dont nee dlike an elaborate photoshoot of it |
| 04:16:38 | Lonoxmont | just enough so we arent flying blind |
| 04:18:35 | Nugettes | lol okay |
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| 04:27:17 | Nugettes | im kinda busy at the moment |
| 04:27:44 | Nugettes | here is an image https://topics-cdn.dell.com/Inspiron_3470_SetupandSpecs/images/GUID-8F72E452-20A6-446B-817C-125E13BFEB20-low.jpg |
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| 04:28:51 | Lonoxmont | alright, if you have any addon graphics cards they would be where number 9 is |
| 04:29:18 | Nugettes | ah ok |
| 04:29:19 | Lonoxmont | if theres nothing there but blank plates, you dont have an addon graphics card |
| 04:29:41 | Lonoxmont | also, for the first setup i would try the vga port if it has one (and you dont have any addon cards) |
| 04:29:50 | Lonoxmont | you can turn the hdmi on from there once you are in |
| 04:32:37 | Nugettes | ok |
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| 04:33:34 | Nugettes | thx for the info gtg |
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| 04:37:14 | speachy | drat, turned the entire build field yellow. |
| 04:38:14 | chrisb | my sansa e200 is wedging after playing one or two m4a/AAC files |
| 04:38:58 | speachy | how large are the files? mp4 stream parsing is very memory intensive and bigger files don't always make it |
| 04:40:18 | chrisb | speachy: they are 12minute audio files and i did see the question addressed in 2018 on rockbox.org |
| 04:40:45 | chrisb | speachy: so the answer may be conversion to another format? |
| 04:40:49 | speachy | I know I've run into this problem but with many-hour audiobooks |
| 04:41:01 | speachy | that's the simple answer, unfortunately |
| 04:41:35 | chrisb | speachy: they are backed up in a beets database, so the transcoding might be automated |
| 04:41:59 | speachy | it might also be embedded metadata/art |
| 04:42:33 | chrisb | speachy: ah, how can i check that? |
| 04:42:38 | speachy | I wodner if there are any "sanity check your mp4 file" sites/tools out there. |
| 04:44:04 | Lonoxmont | id say vlc but it tries its damndest to play whatever you throw at it... |
| 04:44:07 | chrisb | is ffmpeg .m4a .ogg efficient? |
| 04:44:35 | chrisb | sometimes ffmpeg blows the file size up |
| 04:44:36 | Lonoxmont | good as any id imagine |
| 04:44:47 | Lonoxmont | probably depends on what settings you feed it |
| 04:47:30 | Lonoxmont | iirc there should be an ffmpeg2theora script/wrapper that makes it easy for making things into ogg |
| 04:47:43 | Lonoxmont | ive used it before to get movies transcoded |
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| 04:49:58 | Lonoxmont | straight up ffmpeg options can be a bit esoteric to say the least |
| 04:54:01 | chrisb | Lonoxmont: i have these files in beets, so beets can run the ffmpeg transcoding |
| 04:54:53 | chrisb | Lonoxmont: meaning, once the ffmpeg esoterics are set once, i should be able to do it reliably |
| 04:56:03 | Lonoxmont | ah |
| 04:56:31 | Lonoxmont | then again media manipulation and reliably rarely go hand in hand :P |
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| 14:54:05 | bluebrother^ | speachy: now it hangs at the Rockbox logo. Somewhat of an improvement since I don't get to read any weird numbers anymore ;-) |
| 14:54:24 | speachy | that's... odd. |
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| 14:55:45 | speachy | I basically added code that should trigger PANICs in multiple places. Maybe that's being triggered before the rest of the system is ready. |
| 14:56:07 | bluebrother^ | it's bcd32ff9e4M-200411 according to rockbox-info.txt |
| 14:56:13 | speachy | I'll yank those out and just leave the extra info in the data abort. |
| 14:56:27 | speachy | yep, that's the one. |
| 14:56:41 | bluebrother^ | ok, just to make sure I've got the right file :) |
| 14:56:58 | speachy | if oyu have a few minutes I'll spin up another for you now |
| 14:57:32 | bluebrother^ | sure |
| 14:59:09 | bluebrother^ | btw, if you want to cross-compiler Rockbox Utility for Windows: use mxe. |
| 14:59:48 | bluebrother^ | doesn't build natively on Windows anymore these days due to the libcrypto++ dependency. Hasn't been fixed since. |
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| 15:00:15 | speachy | I couldn't do the cross compile because I lacked some of the qt5 libraries we pulled in |
| 15:00:22 | speachy | new image up, same bac place. |
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| 15:03:39 | bluebrother^ | data abort at 000756ac |
| 15:04:05 | bluebrother^ | but no further info in the panic screen. |
| 15:04:05 | speachy | no additional output? |
| 15:04:20 | bluebrother^ | pc:000756ac sp:4000ada0 |
| 15:04:23 | bluebrother^ | bt end |
| 15:04:23 | speachy | okay, let me fix that |
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| 15:08:51 | speachy | new one up. |
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| 15:12:29 | bluebrother^ | hangs at Logo. Now it identifies as 11eac0adc4M though. |
| 15:17:08 | speachy | and yet another. this one does nothing other than add one additional line of output to the panic message. |
| 15:17:34 | speachy | sorry, new image up in case that wasn't clear. same 11eac as before though |
| 15:18:38 | gevaerts | Might make sense to have a temporary branch so you can have a commit for each build to make the version useful? |
| 15:19:18 | speachy | yeah, if this continues... |
| 15:19:51 | speachy | then again I could always change the info.txt by hand before I send it. :) |
| 15:21:07 | bluebrother^ | data abort at 000756c4 pos 1 |
| 15:21:14 | bluebrother^ | sp:4000ada0 |
| 15:22:01 | speachy | yay, progress! |
| 15:22:45 | speachy | that's in thread.c:inherit_priority() |
| 15:33:07 | speachy | that code already has a null check.. |
| 15:33:10 | speachy | okay, new image up. |
| 15:34:04 | speachy | this one will report the actual pointer value. |
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| 15:37:34 | bluebrother^ | btw, I have an ondio fm I can try on (finally have charged batteries for that around :) |
| 15:39:31 | speachy | oh, cool! I'll build that right up.. |
| 15:39:34 | bluebrother^ | 000756c4, pos 2024b581 |
| 15:39:54 | speachy | okay, that 'pos' is an unaligned value. |
| 15:40:00 | bluebrother^ | oh, I already did a build some days ago. Lets try with that now :) |
| 15:40:36 | speachy | If it doesn't immediately HACF I'll be quite pleasantly surprised. |
| 15:43:01 | speachy | I wonder if that 'pos' is due to somethign not getting properly zero-initialized. |
| 15:43:36 | speachy | it's unaligned _and_ lies outside system RAM. |
| 15:56:34 | speachy | new one uloaded. |
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| 16:02:16 | speachy | one thing worth trying is forcing the PP targets to single-core operation |
| 16:02:42 | speachy | that disables most of the PP-specific stuff, including the funky multicore threading code |
| 16:03:23 | bluebrother^ | I'm getting exactly the same output with the new version |
| 16:07:09 | speachy | I'm respinning the image to only use a single core. |
| 16:07:27 | speachy | just trying to narrow the window.. |
| 16:08:08 | speachy | okay, it's up. |
| 16:17:45 | bluebrother^ | ah. That ondio has Rockbox flashed. That's why it's not loading the new firmware ... |
| 16:19:07 | bluebrother^ | ok, now the mini2g boots. Trying to resume playback, ended up with prefetch abort at ffff(cutoff) pos 00000003 pc:fffffffe sp:40002c00 |
| 16:19:35 | bluebrother^ | voice works though. |
| 16:19:47 | bluebrother^ | well, voicing the menus that is. |
| 16:20:53 | bluebrother^ | Rockbox Info says "Buffer: 0kiB" which seems a bit strange to me. |
| 16:34:18 | speachy | okay, so it's clear the first place to start is the PP-specific multicore code. |
| 16:34:33 | speachy | that's a sign that the other arm7tdmi targets are likely okay |
| 16:57:03 | * | chrisb still transcoding |
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| 17:03:52 | _Bilgus | Buffer: 0kiB that means the voice file has an offset issue |
| 17:04:18 | _Bilgus | FFS if only I could remember what the issue was |
| 17:15:27 | speachy | hmm, what preferch abort, what was teh codec? mp3? |
| 17:15:50 | speachy | and the voices are speex? |
| 17:16:22 | _Bilgus | It was something stupid but its been lost to the sands of time :| |
| 17:30:39 | bluebrother^ | speachy: mp3, and it also happens when I try ogg |
| 17:31:09 | bluebrother^ | on mp3 it paniced immediately, on ogg it showed the wps, but wasn't playing. Touching the wheel made it panic, so I guess it's at least similar. |
| 17:31:36 | bluebrother^ | what arm7tdmi target is not PP? |
| 17:31:47 | speachy | suppose it could still be threading wonkiness, but I'd have thought voice wouldn't work in that case. |
| 17:32:04 | speachy | I don't know if there are any non-PP arm7tdmi targets. |
| 17:32:53 | speachy | but we just narrowed the window from "everything arm7tdmi" to "definitely something in multi-cpu PP code" |
| 17:33:37 | speachy | arm7tdmi shares a lot with newer arm targets, but there is some arm7tdmi-only asm code in the general arm platform code |
| 17:39:00 | * | speachy re-reads that last grammatically-challenged sentance and shudders. |
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| 17:56:01 | speachy | __builtin, any objection if I commit my current pile of SDL warning fixes? (I'll pull out the change in CFLAGS that trigger them..) |
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| 18:29:33 | pixelma | spelling challenged, too? ;) |
| 18:42:35 | bluebrother^ | ondiofm and gcc 4.9.4 seems to work fine. |
| 18:44:14 | bluebrother^ | At least it boots find, playback works, fm works, plugins run (well, the ones I've tried, fractals exits with a "not enough memory" splash) |
| 18:45:06 | bluebrother^ | even fractals works. |
| 18:46:15 | bluebrother^ | recorded some noise from the microphone, works as well. |
| 18:46:27 | bluebrother^ | So I guess I can say that sh1 seems to be unproblematic. |
| 18:46:51 | speachy | holy crap, that's far better than I'd ever expected |
| 18:51:43 | bluebrother^ | ok, screenshot doesn't work. When I enable screenshot and plug in the USB cable I'll end up with a Stkov USB |
| 18:52:43 | bluebrother^ | interesting. After that the flashed 3.10 doesn't start anymore and complains about "no partition found" |
| 18:53:00 | bluebrother^ | plug in usb, unplug it and 3.10 starts. |
| 18:56:57 | bluebrother^ | ok, 3.10 works fine again afterwards if I pull the battery for a moment. Seems like shutting down the new version and then starting the player again leaves something in a weird state. |
| 18:57:14 | bluebrother^ | not really an issue imo, you're usually not doing something like this :) |
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| 19:10:59 | speachy | might be worth seeing if 3.15 does the same |
| 19:11:07 | speachy | don't know how many of these are actual regressions |
| 19:11:13 | speachy | from gcc 4.9, I mean |
| 19:11:23 | bluebrother^ | yep, thought of that as well :) |
| 19:11:30 | bluebrother^ | haven't tried it yet though. |
| 19:11:46 | speachy | highly questionable if the effort is worth it |
| 19:12:24 | speachy | so it looks like the only serious regression so far is on the mini2g, and probably all other PP targets. |
| 19:14:49 | bluebrother^ | oh, and 2048 is barely playable on the ondio due to the way it is displayed. Makes it hard to distinguish the fields. |
| 19:18:39 | bluebrother^ | ok, 3.15 also gets the Stkov usb when screenshot mode is enabled. |
| 19:21:17 | bluebrother^ | so ondiofm looks pretty good. I guess it's safe to say that all sh targets should be fine. |
| 19:23:23 | __builtin | speachy: yeah, go ahead |
| 19:23:34 | __builtin | I'll fix things if they break |
| 19:30:09 | speachy | okay, it's gone in |
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| 23:56:11 | * | ulmutul realizes that he wasn't here for a long time |
| 23:56:51 | ulmutul | speachy: I'm the guy who can test some of the PP targets, like Samsung, Philips, etc. |
| 23:57:24 | speachy | FYI, the forums are now alive on their new host. DNS propogation not withstanding, everything should now work. |
| 23:58:29 | ulmutul | If you like to provide test builds than it's best to start with Samsung YH925, because that's the DAP I use mostly for testing. Just don't expect instant feedback :) |
| 23:58:37 | speachy | ulmutul, it's pretty clear that the PP5022 is busted with 4.9.4 (multithreading on multiple CPUs..) but other/older PPs might be useful |
| 23:58:52 | speachy | ok, give me a couple... |
| 23:58:58 | ulmutul | YH925 is PP5020 |
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