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| 00:10:21 | speachy | oaky, the buildmaster is still thinking my latex manual builds are bad; when I build them by hand they're good so I don't know why it's being a poopy-head. |
| 00:10:38 | speachy | it failed my builder, so the android stuff didn't get built, hence the two errors. |
| 00:11:09 | gevaerts | Hmmm |
| 00:11:12 | speachy | so, I'm disabling latex on my builders until I can figure out WTF it's being so persnickety.. |
| 00:11:28 | gevaerts | The buildmaster uses regex matching on the log IIRC to see if things are OK |
| 00:11:46 | speachy | the magic string "not found" it's looking for isn't present when I fire off the exact cmdline the builder uses |
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| 00:24:42 | speachy | wait, my log file was stale.. did I forget to restart the builder with the new stuff? yeah.. looks like it. sigh. |
| 00:32:30 | speachy | rbclient.pl in www.git is busted. fixing it will have to wait until after dinner. |
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| 01:36:40 | speachy | okay, fixed I think. |
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| 02:41:39 | _Bilgus | speachy do you have a todo list up anywhere? |
| 02:43:29 | speachy | for infra stuff, code, or all the above? |
| 02:46:38 | speachy | for the former, definitely. the latter, I don't really have anything beyond various half-started git branches and patches already in gerrit. |
| 02:59:03 | speachy | the lion's share of my code changes lately have been driven by things I'm finding while trying to get the infra going |
| 02:59:19 | speachy | I consider the toolchain bumps as part of that |
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| 04:53:32 | speachy | I've been trying to do a braindump into a proper todo list |
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| 05:02:01 | speachy | ...did anyone ever explore adding a TTS engine into rockbox? wait, I see FS #7660 that was abandoned over a decade ago. |
| 05:02:02 | fs-bluebot_ | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7660 Plugin espeak TTS engine for rockbox (patches, unconfirmed) |
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| 05:03:16 | speachy | the "pipe dreams" section is growing. :D |
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| 07:15:47 | _Bilgus | Speachy uhm Mr(s).Somebody I mean |
| 07:46:36 | blbro[m] | speachy have a look at manual/latexfilter.pl |
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| 08:57:50 | __builtin | x86 emulator, of course |
| 08:58:05 | __builtin | user890104 had a working prototype |
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| 09:02:07 | user890104 | uhm, what about the x86 emulator? :) |
| 09:02:32 | user890104 | i even got a 6502 one (oricutron), but it runs slow as hell |
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| 10:59:03 | pixelma | speachy: there was also https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TextToSpeech |
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| 11:00:51 | gevaerts | IIRC the main TTS stumbling block was memory management |
| 11:01:07 | gevaerts | I don't know the details |
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| 14:04:02 | rbox | hi, i've used rockbox for years on a sansa clip 2, until the device died. i've looked through the list of supported devices but many seem to no longer be on sale. could you suggest some devices that are still around, looking for a simple mp3 player, where you could still buy them? |
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| 14:17:38 | speachy | blbro[m], I fixed the wrapping issue on the command line. But that that filter script wasn't being used for the html manuals |
| 14:20:27 | speachy | _Bilgus, Hmm, I guess I could augment the MrSomeonesTodoList wiki page, but I can't claim that the stuff on my list was "agreed needs to be done" by anyone other than the voices in my head |
| 14:30:20 | speachy | _Bilgus, here's the state of my brain dump todo: http://www.peachyphotos.com/blog/stories/rockbox-todos/ |
| 14:31:40 | speachy | I have a separate one for the infra stuff, mostly migration-related things, but the "misc improvements" section is growing theretoo.. |
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| 18:24:36 | speachy | hmm. looking at the MrSomeoneTodoList wiki page, I noticed "show transfer times on the developer build page" |
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| 18:25:20 | speachy | this is actually really easy to do (the data is already there) but I don't see it as being terribly useful as the detail page already shows the average transfer speed of each builder in that round. |
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| 18:26:56 | speachy | anyone think otherwise? |
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| 19:04:50 | Bilgus | like the time it took to send the data to a build client and return trip? |
| 19:06:19 | speachy | the data captured is the time it takes to upload the built blob. |
| 19:06:47 | speachy | since for many(most?) of the builds the results aren't actually uploaded. |
| 19:07:18 | Bilgus | yeah so that seems kinda pointless except maybe a metric for performance |
| 19:07:56 | speachy | yeah, the existing page already averages the upload speed for the entire batch on that host. |
| 19:08:14 | Bilgus | If it were going on the build page maybe set a threshold and only show outliers |
| 19:08:44 | Bilgus | but really a clean buildpage is easier to grok\ |
| 19:10:12 | Bilgus | you said the results aren't uploaded do they get CRCd and rejected then? |
| 19:11:34 | speachy | it only uploads the firmware builds; stuff like checkwps, sims, etc are just there to catch regressions |
| 19:12:54 | Bilgus | hmm and every build round uploads all the built fw? |
| 19:13:00 | speachy | yes |
| 19:13:38 | Bilgus | seems like a lot of extra traffic for something that didn't change |
| 19:14:10 | speachy | well, it's done on every commit, and there's no really good way to know if something would have changed or not |
| 19:14:57 | Bilgus | couldn't you do a crc over the fw and check it against the record on the server? |
| 19:15:17 | speachy | no, becuase the commit id changes therefore the checksum would change. :) |
| 19:15:22 | speachy | every build is genuinely different |
| 19:16:04 | speachy | we keep 30 days' worth of builds, no more than 1 per day. |
| 19:16:26 | Bilgus | ah yeah because we show the Build number in the FW |
| 19:18:13 | Bilgus | there is already a delay on dev build hitting the main page how is that handled in the 1/day thing? |
| 19:19:21 | speachy | every night the final build for a given day is archived and becomes that day's build. |
| 19:19:41 | speachy | and if no new build happened on that day, the previous day's build is copied. |
| 19:20:41 | speachy | this way we can easily expire anything over 30 days old rather "delete all but one build for a given day but then keep the most recent 30 files" |
| 19:21:12 | speachy | I think the latter would be nice to have but it's a lot more complicated to implement. |
| 19:27:38 | Bilgus | per your TODO I'm going to start purging HWCODEC (again) as soon as you decide your ARCHOS itches are scratched WIKI - group effort GERRIT maybe we can mark all the cannot merge as abandoned −−the rest maybe have everyone vote for what should be removed |
| 19:28:33 | speachy | hmm. source snapshots, daily changelogs and mapfiles are broken. probably disappeared once the builds page started using the output of the farm instead of generating everything itself. |
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| 19:29:10 | Bilgus | I think we could knock out 25% of the backlog on Cannot Merge |
| 19:29:24 | speachy | given that Archos appears to work with a modern toolchain, there's no longer any immediate need to nuke it, except for the hwcodec thing |
| 19:29:52 | Bilgus | *OH mapfiles in the releases is important if you are taking requests for your TODO* |
| 19:30:10 | speachy | releases or daily builds? |
| 19:30:20 | Bilgus | dailys |
| 19:30:39 | Bilgus | I thought the releases already had it |
| 19:30:40 | speachy | ok.. they're not captured as part of the normal 'make zip |
| 19:30:44 | Bilgus | if not there too |
| 19:31:33 | speachy | I mean, adding it to the zip would be the simplest way to capture them for everyone, just bloats the zips a little |
| 19:32:32 | speachy | adding in the map increases the xduoox3 zipfile by ~100k, for example |
| 19:32:46 | speachy | 860k extracted. |
| 19:32:49 | Bilgus | yeah like 1-2Kb it'd be worth it to have it on device I could even make up a lua script to search it |
| 19:33:17 | speachy | and that won't cover plugins, codecs, etc. just the main fw image. |
| 19:34:12 | Bilgus | well if its that big them maybe not releases but for sure dev builds |
| 19:35:36 | speachy | no.. it would need to be across the board, we dont' want to have someone unzip a new firmware file that doesn't include a mapfile −− we'll end up with a stale map which is beyond worthless. |
| 19:36:04 | Bilgus | ah yeah true\ |
| 19:36:23 | speachy | the buildmaster doesn't care all that much; it's the client that decides what to upload. |
| 19:36:34 | Bilgus | its definitely a good trouble shooting tool |
| 19:36:43 | Bilgus | troubleshooting* |
| 19:37:04 | speachy | I'll add maps, changelogs, and source snapshots to the TODO. |
| 19:37:44 | speachy | source snapshots in particular. |
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| 19:39:22 | speachy | any changes to these probably won't go live until the infra moves to my servers. |
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| 19:43:16 | * | speachy is tempted to tear into the latest recruiter to cold-call him. |
| 19:44:30 | speachy | ... what makes him think that someone with two decades of deeply embedded stuff wants to jump to testing webapps with Selenium? |
| 19:45:30 | speachy | and relocate to sillycon valley, for a 6mo temp-to-maybe-hire gig. |
| 19:49:23 | Bilgus | people still play the lottery even knowing the odds.. |
| 19:50:26 | speachy | I'd rather go tromping around barefoot in that patch of poison ivy I just discovered. |
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| 19:52:16 | speachy | but I digress. |
| 19:53:55 | speachy | got android sdk stuffs installed on my other builder and eventual buildmaster, so I can go ahead and enable the nightly voice and manual build crons and see if anything explodes |
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| 20:10:33 | speachy | hmm. with respect to the map file, bloating the zip by 100k isn't really a big deal, but I'm more concerned with wasting space on the target. we could always just gzip it first, and put that into the zip file instead? |
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| 20:49:19 | Bilgus | i Suppose but even 1meg isn't going to be that big of a deal or strip the junk from it first |
| 20:49:42 | Bilgus | but that involves processing and room for mistakes |
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| 21:22:00 | speachy | huh, mimic takes 2:38 to generate a voice set where festival takes.. 20:43. yow. |
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| 21:58:40 | speachy | d'oh.. I wedged the site |
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| 22:00:23 | speachy | should be okay; next round will un-wedge itself. |
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| 23:11:23 | speachy | asked badger & co to unwedge things the right way so we don't lose info on this build round |
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| 23:12:34 | zagor[m] | speachy: I'm looking at it now |
| 23:12:46 | speachy | awesome, thank you |
| 23:15:15 | speachy | I think I've broken eought things for one day |
| 23:29:01 | zagor[m] | There. Double-check I haven't overwritten your changes. I had a ton of uncommitted local changes I committed now. Mostly http->https, but likely more things too... |
| 23:31:23 | speachy | I have all of the local changes from the original site dump.. I think the cron'd 'git update' was keeping things updated okay |
| 23:31:50 | speachy | the build page is unwedged, and time will tell if anything regressed |
| 23:32:56 | speachy | thank you for doing this |
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