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06:24:26 | Demosthenex | hey folks. i'm a happy rockbox user on my sansa fuse+, works great! recently i'm experiencing nasty hissing noises when i turn it on, and i can hear it "thinking", different tones when loading music, etc... |
06:24:54 | Demosthenex | on the forums it was suggested to boot it to the original firmware and back to rockbox, but i can't get the instructions to work (power on while holding |<) |
06:25:00 | Demosthenex | is there an alternate method to boot back? |
06:26:35 | Demosthenex | https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,52287.msg242078.html#msg242078 |
06:26:49 | Demosthenex | i did try setting the time, but i can't seem to boot back temporarily |
06:28:37 | Demosthenex | ah ha! in the other guide, it says volume down isntead of left arrow |
06:28:40 | Demosthenex | that seems to do it |
06:28:49 | Demosthenex | tyty! |
06:32:41 | Demosthenex | and i can confirm booting to orig fixed the hiss, i guess it reset somethingin the dac? |
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06:54:54 | zagor[m] | speachy: how much lead time do you want? would tonight be good for you? |
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08:44:39 | pamaury | Demosthenex: yes the OF resets some DAC settings, I never quite got figured out why those change sometimes and produce that hissing sound, and I didn't spend time reverse engineering the exact settings the OF uses |
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09:53:18 | speachy | zagor[m], tonight will work. |
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09:53:39 | speachy | so 23:00 CET again? |
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10:06:22 | speachy | lead time isn't so important for git/gerrit as there aren't bunches of random folks hitting them. |
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10:07:54 | speachy | the only thing I have left to do is to add in the rewrite rules to convert gitweb to cgit urls. |
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10:17:28 | nihilazo | does rockbox have a way to skim audio files |
10:17:55 | mendel_munkis | freetypes porting information is woefully incomplete |
10:18:31 | nihilazo | when I'm listening to podcasts on my desktop I skip through them in 5-second ish intervals rather than all at once to skip ad breaks, can rockbox do something similar? |
10:19:05 | mendel_munkis | nihilazo: did you try holding down forward for a second? |
10:19:23 | mendel_munkis | what device are you using |
10:19:34 | nihilazo | when I do that it just skips but the audio is slient so I can't skim through |
10:19:37 | nihilazo | I'm on a fuze+ |
10:20:23 | mendel_munkis | If i am understanding you correctly you want to temporarily increase playback speed? |
10:20:48 | nihilazo | that would work, yeah |
10:22:30 | mendel_munkis | I'm pretty sure there's no native way to do that (besides increasing speed and then decreasing it when you reach the place you want) but someone may have written a patch |
10:22:57 | nihilazo | ok |
10:23:40 | mendel_munkis | are you comfertable compiling rockbox yourself? |
10:24:52 | zagor[m] | speachy: can we go earlier, like 21:00? |
10:26:01 | speachy | zagpr[m], sure, that will work. So that's in 4.5 hours? |
10:26:34 | zagor[m] | yes |
10:26:50 | speachy | ok. I'll send out an email announcement. |
10:29:18 | nihilazo | mendel_munkis: I can try, I've not done it before |
10:29:56 | nihilazo | I'm comfortable with compiling other projects and I assume rockbox isn't much different? |
10:31:50 | speachy | nihilazo: https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HowToCompile |
10:32:04 | nihilazo | thanks, looks pretty similar to what I'm used to |
10:32:19 | speachy | other than neeeding a special cross-compiler it's pretty self-contained. |
10:32:22 | nihilazo | alright |
10:32:42 | speachy | especially if you're used to microcontroller/rtos applications |
10:39:32 | nihilazo | so, can I get the ability to skim through a track if I compile myself? |
10:39:52 | mendel_munkis | I am working on a patch for that |
10:40:24 | nihilazo | awesome, thanks so much |
10:40:37 | mendel_munkis | it may take a while though |
10:42:29 | mendel_munkis | I can see a way to set a hot key to speed it up but I cant see how to reset the speed when you let go sorry. |
10:42:50 | speachy | tap once for speed up, tap again for restoring? |
10:42:52 | nihilazo | oh ok |
10:42:53 | nihilazo | it's fine, dw |
10:43:14 | nihilazo | if it would be a pain to do then it's fine, would just be a convenience for listening to podcasts |
10:43:47 | mendel_munkis | speachy: but in order to make that workable it would need to be a short press which means removing important functionality |
10:44:04 | speachy | there's always a compromise. :D |
10:44:42 | speachy | but in all seriousness, this is a prototype and if it turns out to be more widely desired a better way to integrate it is probably conceivable |
10:46:19 | mendel_munkis | nihilazo: there may be a way |
10:47:10 | nihilazo | cool |
10:49:27 | speachy | announcements have gone out. So in 4 hours, git+gerrit will go down for migration. |
10:49:42 | mendel_munkis | so I gotta be done by then |
10:50:39 | gevaerts | It's git. You can run offline :) |
10:50:40 | speachy | or find something else to do for an hour or so. :) |
10:51:02 | * | gevaerts stands by the sidelines encouraging all this work |
10:51:18 | mendel_munkis | I don't see the announcement. what's the migration? |
10:51:25 | speachy | there's also the public mirror on github |
10:51:50 | speachy | mendel_munkis, git.rockbox.org and gerrit.rockbox.org are migrating to a new host |
10:52:26 | mendel_munkis | ok. I didn't realize they hadn't already moved. thank you |
10:52:52 | speachy | I wanted them to be the first but instead they're the last |
10:53:21 | nihilazo | is there a way to have the crosscompiler build script install to a non-system place that's on the PATH like ~/.local/bin? |
10:53:46 | nihilazo | arch is especially picky with things other than the package manager putting things in system places |
10:53:55 | nihilazo | in my experience |
10:54:43 | speachy | the crosstools have a _lot_ of stuff, not just binaries; you should put them in their own self-contained place and add the final bin location to your path instead. or create symlinks from those binaries.. |
10:55:44 | speachy | RBDEV_PREFIX=/some/path tools/rockboxdev.sh |
10:56:16 | speachy | personally I keep everything of mine under ~/x-tools/rockbox |
10:56:31 | nihilazo | thanks |
10:57:07 | speachy | wand then the bin dir will be ~/x-tools/rockbox/bin |
10:57:21 | nihilazo | cool |
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11:02:44 | mendel_munkis | speachy: I am assuming that talk would be unnecessary if speed is hotkeyed? |
11:03:40 | mendel_munkis | do we have an accessibility expert? |
11:04:58 | speachy | I'd never make an assumption like that |
11:05:41 | mendel_munkis | why not? |
11:06:33 | mendel_munkis | the talk is assuming you are trying to get a specific speed. A hotkey has one predetermined speed |
11:06:58 | speachy | oh, I see what you mean. There's probably no reason to voice the setting change, yeah. |
11:08:03 | nihilazo | OK, I'm getting an error when building the arm cross-compiler, should I pastebin the log? |
11:11:10 | speachy | there are some ...complications with respect to building some of the toolchains on more modern systems |
11:11:22 | speachy | but yeah, pastebin please |
11:17:10 | nihilazo | https://hastebin.com/liguxosali.rb |
11:17:51 | nihilazo | what's a better pastebin site than hastebin, it seems to be struggling with a long log |
11:21:46 | nihilazo | https://itwont.work/log.txt |
11:23:34 | nihilazo | this is better |
11:28:31 | Demosthenex | pamaury: no problem, i was able to solve it ;] |
11:28:33 | Demosthenex | tyty! |
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11:30:22 | speachy | huh. I think this one's due to the gcc10 change from -fcommon to -fno-common |
11:47:33 | mendel_munkis | nihilazo: try g#2388 (it's completley untested though) |
11:47:34 | fs-bluebot_ | Gerrit review #2388 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/2388 : basic skim funtionality by Moshe Piekarski |
11:47:54 | mendel_munkis | you need to enable timestretch and a new skim |
11:47:59 | mendel_munkis | _mode setting |
11:48:23 | nihilazo | awesome, I need to get my build environment working now |
11:48:28 | nihilazo | gcc10 seems to have broke things |
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11:48:35 | nihilazo | and I don't know enough to fix them |
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11:52:55 | speachy | I have a WIP gcc 4.9.4 toolchain that seems to work okay if you're not on a arm7tdmi device |
11:52:58 | speachy | the fuze+ should be okay |
11:53:16 | speachy | grab g#2305 |
11:53:18 | fs-bluebot_ | Gerrit review #2305 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/2305 : Build: Bump all compilers to GCC 4.9.4 (DO NOT MERGE YET) by Solomon Peachy |
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11:53:58 | speachy | and re-run the arm toolchain build. |
11:54:15 | nihilazo | do I get that with a git fetch? |
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11:54:34 | speachy | if you go to that URL, there's a 'download' link on the upper-right corner |
11:54:44 | speachy | cut-n-paste the 'cherry-pick' link |
11:55:14 | nihilazo | thanks |
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12:07:02 | nihilazo | this build seems to be going a lot better |
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12:39:14 | nihilazo | alright, I got the build environment sorted, should I do the same with cherrypicking the commit for the one that has the patch? |
12:45:58 | speachy | yes |
12:48:39 | nihilazo | alright |
12:48:41 | speachy | then: mkdir build-fuzeplus ; cd build-fuzeplus ; ../tools/configure |
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12:48:54 | nihilazo | I've got an error when I build it |
12:49:10 | nihilazo | https://itwont.work/log2.txt |
12:49:47 | speachy | well, that's a problem with the patch |
12:50:03 | nihilazo | ok |
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12:59:06 | speachy | in apps/gui/pitchscreen.c, line 1152, change it to read 'int32_t new_pitch, new_speed;' |
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13:07:42 | nihilazo | seems to have fixed it, thanks |
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13:09:26 | nihilazo | can I just extract that zip over my existing rockbox install? |
13:10:02 | speachy | yeah |
13:10:17 | speachy | I'd back up your existing .rockbox dir first though |
13:10:46 | nihilazo | alright |
13:10:56 | speachy | when it comes to experimental stuff like this, backups are always warranted. |
13:13:28 | nihilazo | I don't seem to have the skim mode setting |
13:14:59 | speachy | under playavk settings, between party mode and volume fade? |
13:15:12 | speachy | s/playavk/playback/ |
13:15:38 | nihilazo | yeah, it's not there |
13:17:35 | speachy | does the 'about' menu item show the correct version/date? |
13:20:35 | nihilazo | I don't seem to have that option |
13:21:25 | nihilazo | wait, I might have just accidentally built the master instead by mistake |
13:21:30 | speachy | system/rockbox info |
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13:23:02 | nihilazo | (gtg, back in a bit) |
13:41:29 | nihilazo | built a version that definately has the patch and now USB is broken although that may be an unrelated thing from the master |
13:42:05 | speachy | that may a bug related to gcc494 |
13:42:21 | speachy | sigh. |
13:44:49 | nihilazo | would it be possible for somebody else to make a build with the patch for fuze+ and stick the zip somewhere I can get it? |
13:45:10 | nihilazo | also, how can I change rockbox versions if USB isn't working, can I load a rockbox zip from the SD card? |
13:45:21 | nihilazo | * also, how can I change rockbox versions if USB isn't working, can I load/install a rockbox zip from the SD card? |
13:45:31 | speachy | gimme a few |
13:45:35 | speachy | gimme a few |
13:47:01 | nihilazo | thanks |
13:50:54 | speachy | https://www.shaftnet.org/~pizza/rockbox-fuzeplus-g2388.zip |
13:51:18 | nihilazo | thanks |
13:52:12 | nihilazo | how can I install that while not having USB? |
13:52:20 | speachy | boot into the original firmware |
13:52:50 | speachy | or extract it to the SD card and ROLO into the new firmware |
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13:54:19 | nihilazo | ok |
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13:57:33 | nihilazo | I extracted it onto the SD card and selected the rockbox executable, it said ROLO and rebooted, but I still don't have the skim mode option |
13:57:47 | nihilazo | USB does work now though |
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14:34:36 | mendel_munkis | I amback and fixing that patch |
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15:21:41 | speachy | oh, heads up, gerrit's going down. |
15:26:58 | speachy | dns changes made. |
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15:39:03 | speachy | git and gerrit are running. git is https enabled. gerrit, not yet. |
15:44:53 | speachy | restarting gerrit with https .... |
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15:51:59 | speachy | okay, it appears to be all alive. |
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15:52:47 | speachy | I need to put in the rewrite rules to automagically convert gitweb->cgit URLs, but it's otherwise done. |
15:52:54 | nihilazo | back |
15:53:26 | mendel_munkis | I fixed some of the problems but there are still a few left. |
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15:54:24 | speachy | mendel_munkis, can you try to push the updated changeset to gerrit and see if it works? |
15:54:57 | mendel_munkis | speachy: I just got a half-decent build. pushing now |
15:56:36 | mendel_munkis | speachy: gerrit is down |
15:57:16 | speachy | try again. firewall hole wasn't applied for some reason. |
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15:58:25 | mendel_munkis | pushed |
15:59:08 | mendel_munkis | Also turns out gerrit doesnt like it when you change the message on a commit −−amend |
15:59:26 | mendel_munkis | also gerrit google oauth is down |
15:59:36 | speachy | ah, new changeset. that's why I didn't see it change. |
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16:00:15 | mendel_munkis | yeah I'm not sure why. the hook shouldn't generate a new ID for a amended commit |
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16:02:01 | speachy | crap... the google openid stuff doesn't like https gerrit. |
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16:02:22 | mendel_munkis | all the more reason to get github working :) |
16:03:08 | * | mendel_munkis just wants to be able to auth with a U2F key |
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16:04:48 | nihilazo | (I'm not sure how this thing handles being in a chat or away, I'm still here if it said I left) |
16:06:58 | speachy | trying to fix this at the google side of things; if not I'll disable https and things should continue to work okay. |
16:10:09 | mendel_munkis | nihilazo: try g#2405 it should work better |
16:11:07 | nihilazo | my build environment has some issues because of the gcc |
16:11:17 | mendel_munkis | speachy: apparently fs-bluebot_ cant connect to gerrit either |
16:11:47 | speachy | that could be due to dns propogation. |
16:17:08 | speachy | okay, google authentication should work again. or it now just did for me, at least. |
16:19:22 | mendel_munkis | works here to |
16:23:04 | bluebrother | speachy, mendel_munkis: it's because of the change from gitweb to cgit. |
16:24:10 | speachy | bluebrother, 15 seconds ago I enabled aliases for gitweb-formatted request. or is the bot parsing the gerrit looking for the magic 'gitweb' phrase? |
16:24:28 | bluebrother | the bot uses git ls-remote to get the commit hash, then queries gitweb since I don't have all remotes locally. Was the easiest way back then. |
16:24:40 | bluebrother | and uses the rss output of gitweb |
16:24:40 | speachy | execllent, gerrit email notifications work. |
16:27:39 | speachy | probably not a trivial thing to fix, but I can't enable gitweb for $reasons |
16:27:55 | bluebrother | ah. $resons sounds $reasonable :) |
16:28:26 | bluebrother | I guess I have to update the scraping code then. Just not today anymore. |
16:28:28 | speachy | one of the url mangling rules I just enabled does cover gitweb rss/atom feeds |
16:28:41 | speachy | but the RSS contents likely differ slightly. |
16:28:49 | speachy | s/ slightly/./ |
16:29:21 | bluebrother | or find a different way to get that information. iirc the main problem was that I can git ls-remote to get the hash, but there's no way to use git to retrieve a commit for a repository I haven't cloned. |
16:29:52 | bluebrother | http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=rss;h=147f7f0e62baf2891f4fddc598827b5092fd13ec |
16:30:21 | bluebrother | would be such a scraping request. Forwards to cgit, but results in an error message. |
16:31:22 | speachy | ah, the URLs are different. give me a sec. |
16:31:53 | bluebrother | I've been using rss since that is easier to parse. If theres a similar output (or maybe some other api, wouldn't mind json or the like) I can update that. |
16:35:42 | speachy | I'd bet that gerrit has a straightforward API that you can use directly. |
16:41:23 | speachy | bluebrother, just doing a GET on "https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/changes/2405/detail" |
16:41:43 | speachy | will return a json object with all of the info you want. Owner, subject, etc. |
16:42:50 | bluebrother | nice. Is there also a way to do that for an arbitrary git hash? |
16:42:53 | speachy | huh, gitlab auth is brroken because it uses the google app credentials. |
16:44:59 | speachy | bluebrother, not directly from what I can tell. |
16:45:15 | speachy | but you can do something like this: "https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/changes/?q=3bdb96a" |
16:46:00 | bluebrother | hmm. I'll give that a closer look tomorrow. gtg for now. |
16:46:01 | speachy | you can extract the changenum or full changeid from that response and repeat the query to get the full details. |
16:46:11 | nihilazo | <mendel_munkis "nihilazo: try g#2405 it should w"> can somebody do a fuze+ build, my environment has issues |
16:46:42 | bluebrother | what about a git hash that wasn't reviewed on gerrit? There won't be a change for that, right? |
16:46:57 | speachy | yeah |
16:47:27 | speachy | it won't show up as there's no gerrit id associated with it |
16:47:47 | speachy | all gerrit would be able to do is point you at the commit in gitweb/cgit |
16:48:02 | speachy | so yo'll be better off just hitting cgit directly for that. |
16:48:18 | bluebrother | yeah. |
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17:45:08 | pamaury | speachy: do you know if there is a delay in wiki edits? I change the code but when I load the wiki page, the edits don't appear |
17:48:05 | speachy | pamuary, I ran into that too, but I figured it was to do with my browser caching inappropriately after the https enablement. |
17:48:19 | speachy | what's the page? |
17:48:49 | speachy | (there was also some wonkiness with the wyswig editor too. Might need to re-disable it..) |
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17:57:31 | pamaury | https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SonyNWDestTool |
17:57:35 | pamaury | speachy: ^ |
17:58:37 | gevaerts | speachy: not sure what the status is supposed to be right now, but google auth isn't working for me. I get a 404 on the redirect back from google to gerrit |
17:59:40 | speachy | what's the bad url? |
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18:00:08 | speachy | just did it to me too. sigh. |
18:00:10 | gevaerts | https://gerrit.rockbox.org/oauth?state=<data> |
18:00:18 | __builtin | yeah, same here |
18:00:36 | speachy | guess I broke that when I was hacking on the gitweb redirection stuff. |
18:00:52 | speachy | (which, I believe, now works properly.. bleh, what a cluster%$^@) |
18:02:08 | speachy | I know why it's not working, I'm just trying to have my cake and eat it too. |
18:02:31 | __builtin | clicking on http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=rss;h=147f7f0e62baf2891f4fddc598827b5092fd13ec redirects me to https://git.rockbox.org/cgit/rockbox.git/atom?h=147f7f0e62baf2891f4fddc598827b5092fd13ec |
18:02:59 | speachy | __builtin, is that sane? |
18:03:13 | __builtin | that redirect? |
18:03:22 | __builtin | the lack of formatting is pretty jarring |
18:03:35 | speachy | it's an XML document. |
18:03:50 | __builtin | yeah, I'd think linking to an HTML page would make more sense |
18:03:58 | __builtin | oh... that's rss. duh. |
18:04:16 | speachy | where's that link coming from? the one bluebrother mentioned was his bot's data acquisition hackery |
18:04:30 | __builtin | it is bluebrother's link |
18:04:33 | speachy | even the irc log reader page should be generating valid cgit links |
18:04:48 | __builtin | didn't realize he'd already reported that issue |
18:05:20 | speachy | pamuary, as soon as I logged into the wiki, the page showed up correctly. |
18:05:29 | speachy | so there's something wonky going on with the wiki caching... |
18:08:44 | speachy | with respect to the gerrit login, I'm trying to craft the correct rewrite/redirect rules. |
18:09:09 | speachy | but if you refresh your 404 now, it will work. I put in the old blanket rule that breaks the https certbot stuff. |
18:10:08 | gevaerts | Yay, both my accounts work :) |
18:10:21 | gevaerts | Including the old one that had been broken for years |
18:12:26 | speachy | gotta restart gerrit, it's going to disappear for a moment.. |
18:13:05 | speachy | back. |
18:13:46 | speachy | Excellent! the github gerrit provider no longer 404s. |
18:13:52 | speachy | s/gerrit/auth/ |
18:14:56 | speachy | aaannd it works. |
18:15:00 | __builtin | @rockbox.org emails are still handled through haxx, right? |
18:15:18 | speachy | yes, email and dns remain with haxx for now, though I'd like to change that too. |
18:15:43 | speachy | they weren't part of the original "MUST MOVE OR ELSE" service list. |
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18:27:48 | speachy | g#2605 |
18:28:07 | speachy | ...guess that wasn't enough to fix the bot. |
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18:36:29 | speachy | pamaury, I made a tweak to the wiki config that may help. |
18:36:53 | speachy | due to still-ancient software, I can't fire up the proper tools to administer it. :/ |
18:43:41 | speachy | nope, still busted. :/ |
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20:21:52 | speachy | pamaury, much mucking-about later, I _think_ I've fixed the caching issues. And hopefully made things a bit faster in the process. |
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22:49:50 | Bilgus | speachy gerrit feels much snappier! |
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