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#rockbox log for 2020-06-30

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06:20:53mendel_munkisare we still worried about sd card formatters not changing the partition type?
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08:42:13__Bilgus_mendel_munkis Possibly we are but I've bought 2 large exfat cards in the past year and just blindly formatted them to Fat32 acting like a user as hard as I could and was not able to repro
08:52:02mendel_munkis__Bilgus_: fs#12294 is only still open because the fix causes problems with misformatted sd cards. do you think it is safe to close?
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09:00:46__Bilgus_it does sound like it might be the same underlying issue
09:02:40__Bilgus_Sorry, I'm undecided on closing
09:05:44__Bilgus_on one hand its 9 years old and none of us havebeen able to reproduce it but there are on ocassion still users that have the issue last one I remember was about 4 months ago
09:05:58mendel_munkiswhich issue?
09:06:48__Bilgus_buy new sd card, format to fat32 RB barfs on partition table won't use the card
09:07:07__Bilgus_reformat it 'properly?' works fine
09:08:03__Bilgus_how is properly defined no clue...
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09:47:42speachywell, I know one obvious "solution" −− add support to rockbox for wiping the card and reformatting it "properly" :D
09:50:12speachyand/or exFAT support. Nice and simple, right? :)
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11:34:05__Bilgus_speachy I thought about that before but the danger is that it could be used irresponsibly or on accident..
11:34:41speachyevery OF I've seen supports reformatting the SD card
11:35:49__Bilgus_plugin would probably be the best way a little back end in core for the support and then a plugin that does the deed
11:36:05Lonoxmontyeah
11:36:19Lonoxmontif people ahve to go out of their way to do it they arent as likely to just stumble on it
11:36:40__Bilgus_exfat support OTOH seems lofty
11:37:25Lonoxmonthow much more complicated is it than fat32?
11:37:36Lonoxmontand there is a spec for it out in the wild now
11:37:43Lonoxmontso not have to reverse engineer it
11:38:37__Bilgus_also speachy that pictureflow patch makes the index building so slow on my actual device I'm thinking about disabling it if the user isn't asking for it to be displayed
11:39:21mendel_munkisI think I found how to support both superfloppy and mislabled partitions
11:39:32mendel_munkisbut it would slow down mounting slightly.
11:40:27__Bilgus_define slightly
11:41:05__Bilgus_if its less than ~3 seconds total I doubt one would notice
11:42:35Lonoxmontoh that reminds me, is there any way to like benchmark or measure power use at boot time on an ipod 5.5g? according to the batteyr monitor, theres a draw of over 500ma for like a minute or so after boot
11:42:54Lonoxmontnot sure if thatsa rockbox thing or an iflash card thing
11:45:45mendel_munkisfeels <500 ms
11:47:17Lonoxmonti might look and check the database settings, i might have it set to auto update or something so maybe its related to that
11:48:30speachycould also be the iflash &| sd card doing bookkeeping tasks too
11:49:00Lonoxmonttrue
11:49:42Lonoxmontwill have to check to see for sure but i seem to recall the disk activity icon being on in the corner on the times i just let it boot on its won
11:50:01Lonoxmontwithout jumping right to the battery monitor via a shortcut as soon as i hit the menu
11:50:27Lonoxmontso maybe all of the above
11:50:32speachyyep
11:54:33*__builtin forgets that we now have localizable plugins
11:56:40mendel_munkisho do I push a commit to gerrit that relies on unreverting a svn commit?
11:57:17mendel_munkisMy local tree has it cherrypicked but gerrit doesn't like the fact that I am pushing someone elses commit.
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12:12:46__builtinmendel_munkis: what do you mean by unreverting?
12:12:56__builtinand what exactly are you trying to do
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12:15:06mendel_munkisI am trying to push code that relys on r30566 and r30567. r30632 however makes reverted them
12:15:51mendel_munkiss/makes//
12:16:40__builtinwhat's the parent commit you're working off of?
12:16:59mendel_munkisMASTER
12:17:19mendel_munkiswith the 2 aforementioned commits cherrypicked on top
12:17:55speachygit rebase -i, and drop the change you don't want to push
12:18:12mendel_munkisspeachy: that would be plagiarism
12:19:52speachyah, okay, I see.
12:20:16__builtinplagiarism?
12:20:17speachywhat I'd have done instead of cherry-picking them is to 'git revert' the r30632 commit id\
12:20:44speachyie reverting the revert
12:21:39mendel_munkisthe problem with that is that the file has been modified enough since then to make that revert not apply cleanly.
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12:22:09mendel_munkis__builtin: taking credit for someone elses code.
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12:23:17speachyso gerrit is rejecting the patch when you try to push it for review?
12:23:28speachydoes it have a new commit-id tag?
12:23:56speachy(if not, git rebase -i, edit each one in turn, so they will get a new commit id..)
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12:34:35mendel_munkisspeachy: I gave them change IDs. it still fails with the error "author email address torne@wolfpuppy.org.uk doesn't match your user account"
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12:51:52speachyI bet if you'd exported the patches and then did 'git am patchfile' on them, it would have worked..
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14:38:11mendel_munkisspeachy: can you temporarily grant me "forge author" gerrit access rights?
14:39:36__builtinmendel_munkis: you could probably just amend the author to be yourself (and add a note to that effect in the message, if you wish)
14:53:29mendel_munkisI would appreciate it if anyone with an extra sd card would testg#2466 with a superfloppy and or a partition with the partition type set incorrectly.
14:53:31fs-bluebotGerrit review #2466 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/2466 : Try mounting as "superfloppy" first by Moshe Piekarski
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16:17:25speachymendel_munkis, I have plenty of SD cards to act as guinea pigs, but I don't think any of them meet your criteria.
16:18:08mendel_munkisspeachy: I would do it myself but all of mine have data I dont want to wipe to format.
16:18:49speachysuperfloppy means no partitions? that's easy enough. −− but as for incorrect type, I can always tweak it in fdisk but I'd like to have it match the crap seen in the wild
16:19:21mendel_munkisyes that's what the superfloppy is.
16:19:54speachyso your patch just rearranges the order things are tried?
16:20:08mendel_munkisthe reason for the wrong partition is that apparently many of the less sane formatters in the wild don't bother changing the part type
16:20:09mendel_munkisyes
16:20:44speachyso what would be an example of a "bad" type in this case?
16:20:59speachy(exfat instead of fat32?)
16:21:13mendel_munkisthat seems to be the most common case.
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16:22:53mendel_munkisfrom what I can tell a fat header can look like an mbr and if you hit the jackpot mount_fat will think it can do something with the offset.
16:22:54speachydo you recall the actual partition type code for exfat? it doesn't seem to be in
16:23:31mendel_munkis07h
16:23:54mendel_munkismicrosoft reused their already assigned NTFS type code
16:24:04speachyah, okay
16:24:29speachyyou also changed the logic to exclude extended or non-allocated ids
16:25:08mendel_munkisI left that in from Torne. I figure he probably had a reason.
16:26:05speachyextended type makes sense, type 0 might trip us up with braindead formatters..
16:27:10mendel_munkisI think the assumption is that a partition with part code 0 is probably empty and calling mount will just waste time.
16:30:46mendel_munkisIt may be best to leave it as is for the time save and change it if any braindead formatters show up in the wild.
16:31:23speachybuilt... formatted, copying files over..
16:34:05speachycopy new code to my X3..
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16:36:20speachysuperfloppy works
16:37:39mendel_munkisthanks.
16:38:12speachyhacking the part type for exfat now
16:41:14speachyworked with exfat part type too
16:44:45speachyodd. can't seem to find the two 256GB cards I thought I had around here. maybe I left them at the office...
16:46:10mendel_munkisI tested with a standard card and it worked fine.
16:46:26mendel_munkisdoes anyone have any other edge cases that should be tested?
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17:00:20speachynow it's worth considering that bootloaders etc will need to be rebuilt in order to pick this change up
17:05:10speachyalso with the wrong partition type thing, hosted-type players might not work right, as linux tries to respect the partition id...
17:05:31speachy(my desktop here wouldn't mount the not-exfat partition after I changed it..)
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17:06:18mendel_munkisspeachy: A: good to know the bug report was wrong about that. B however no targets will be worse off then currently
17:06:52speachyI agree
17:07:10mendel_munkismake it a hidden feature.
17:07:11speachyat worst it's no worse than before
17:08:25speachyI see no reason to not merge the lot
17:11:27mendel_munkisspeachy: go ahead. I have no objections
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17:12:03speachyand so it goes
17:12:15mendel_munkisthanks
17:14:42speachyno, thank you. :D
17:21:11speachyso does that resolve fs#12294?
17:21:37mendel_munkisyeah I'm waiting for the build to finish before requesting a close.
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17:26:27speachycongratulations, you shrank the binary size. :D
17:26:49mendel_munkisI expected as much.
17:27:51mendel_munkisgiven that those changes added far fewer then they removed.
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