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#rockbox log for 2020-07-06

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14:11:30speachyinteresting failure. more gcc10 fallout.
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14:38:03mendel_munkisspeachy I am considering installing a rockbox toolchain on a new machine. is it better to wait for the new toolchain?
14:41:12speachydepends on what you want to be debugging. :)
14:41:54speachythere are no known regressions with the new toolchain now
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15:04:48mendel_munkiswhat changes would I have to make to rbdev.sh to use the new toolchain?
15:07:44speachyapplyg#2305
15:07:46fs-bluebotGerrit review #2305 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/2305 : Build: Bump all toolchains to GCC 4.9.4 + Binutils 2.26.1 by Solomon Peachy
15:07:57mendel_munkisalright thanks
15:08:51speachyI _think_ the fuze+ builds warning-free
15:31:43efqw_I've been tinkering with the FiiO M3K lately, is there anyone who's interested in porting rb properly to this device? Unfortunately porting is sadly beyond my ability right now, but I did some groundwork to the maximum extent of my abilities and will put all the info I have into the wiki once I get access.
15:32:05efqw_I took some internal pictures, wrote some disassembly instruction, and identified all of the chips they have in this device (along with all of the datasheets) in hope that this will help someone to get started with a port.
15:33:04speachythe m3k is another hiby-based one. it should be pretty easy to port.
15:33:29efqw_This device is very similar to the AGPTEK ROCKER in terms of hardware spec (no radio, X1000E instead of X1000, different I2S DAC, same PMU, I2C touch controls instead of a D-PAD).
15:34:03speachywell, the xvortex port supposedly works but no sources. :/
15:34:58efqw_It's not actually a hiby-based player, I believe this is from a different OEM because the rootfs and general software setup look very different than the hiby stuff.
15:36:43efqw_First of all, the UI toolkit is different, the FiiO one is using MiniGUI (source from fiio is available on github) instead of LiteGUI like the hiby stuff does.
15:36:54speachyefqw_, there should be an email waiting in your inbox with a new password. Or at least the wiki claims it sent it.
15:37:48efqw_I have no emails unfortunately (checked the spam as well)
15:40:10efqw_Additionally, this device is using X-Loader instead of U-Boot, and system updates are performed with a recovery partition instead.
15:41:03efqw_Firmware packages are split into ~1MB chunks and signed individually with apksign, and then zipped together along with a manifest file.
15:42:05speachyas long as it's a mostly-standard linux load, we can continue to use SDL on top of the linux framebuffer
15:42:22speachyalsa for audio, normal linux input subsystem, etc
15:43:07efqw_This setup is drastically different from the hiby stuff, where the .upt file is an ISO9660 volume and the blobs are not signed.
15:43:27efqw_Yes, it's a mostly standard Linux setup, and it already uses ALSA for audio.
15:43:29speachyis it running an android kernel?
15:44:00efqw_No, it's the ingenic 3.10.14 kernel.
15:44:11speachyefqw_, the email went out again a few minutes ago
15:44:22efqw_Ah got it now
15:48:04speachydoes the m3k's touch controls have any sort of tactile feedback? is that center strip ridged?
15:48:33efqw_FiiO has published the M3K kernel source on github as well if anyone is interested in reading it.
15:49:12efqw_speachy: the touchpad has no tactile feedback and the entire front is a solid piece of glass
15:49:41efqw_and the device has no vibration motors or other mechanisms for providing tactile feedback
15:49:43speachythat'll make it nearly impossible to operate without looking. :/
15:50:32efqw_The touchpad is controlled by an FT6236U, which is an I2C touchscreen controller.
15:50:57speachymapped to the standard linux input API, hopefully
15:51:25efqw_I have no idea how the strip and 4 touch buttons are set up however. Some help on figuring that out would be highly appreciated.
15:52:11efqw_I can't do the port myself but I have a disassembled device with UART console that I can do pretty much anything to.
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15:54:06efqw_With Ingenic's USB Cloner tool, the entire flash can be overwritten without disassembling the device. I have already tried erasing the entire NAND and flashing back my own NAND dumps and it worked perfectly fine.
15:54:58speachyso we don't need to deal with signed anything, in theory..?
15:55:29efqw_Yes, but only if the rb community accepts using a proprietary tool as a solution.
15:56:34efqw_The cloner has Linux and Windows versions, I have only tested the Windows version in a win7 vm so far. The USB driver is just libusb.
15:57:38speachyquestion is does it interact with some sort of boot rom or does the tool effectively load in custom code that does the flashing (eg acting like a typical jtag pod)
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16:00:53efqw_From what I can see, it loads a ~6kB u-boot SPL into the memory which does memory initialization, and then loads a pre-built u-boot binary, and this is what interacts with the cloner device from now on.
16:01:39speachythat makes sense.
16:03:59efqw_So we can replace the bootloader with u-boot or even re-partition the NAND in theory, but I'm not sure if that's worth the effort to be honest.
16:04:35speachynope
16:06:08efqw_Either way, imo this is a low-hanging fruit that someone with the right expertise could port it with very little effort.
16:06:16speachyoffhand do you know of any others sharing the same software architecture as this thing?
16:07:15efqw_The new M3 Pro from FiiO is pretty darn similar. I don't have the device but I did take a peek at their firmware.
16:09:23efqw_FiiO M5 also has the same X1000E SoC, and it's got a Bluetooth radio, but the battery is very small and imo not worth the effort to port to for now.
16:10:03efqw_M3K was pretty much the cheapest X1000E device I could find on the market with decent build quality.
16:11:40efqw_By "not worth the effort" I meant this could be put after the M3K port, because all of the Ingenic FiiO devices are pretty similar in terms of software setup.
16:15:36efqw_M3K is a good starting point imo because it's the cheapest device (assuming decent hardware build quality is desired) in this lot, so it's much easier for anyone who's interested to purchase this device. I'm not just saying this because I have the device btw, I'll be okay with doing the same prep work I did on the M3K for the M3 Pro if someone is interested in playing with that device instead.
16:16:19speachyI'm disappointed that everything's going down the touch-screen path again..
16:18:02efqw_Same, I personally don't really like the touch controls, imo this gets rid of a feature that most people want when buying a dedicated DAP: tactile physical buttons. However, this is not a total deal breaker for me.
16:18:24speachymissed my window to get an x3ii for relatively cheap. d'oh.
16:20:41speachyoh wow, the SoC in the xduoo x2 has an 8051-derived processor core.
16:21:54efqw_speachy: Is there anything else that would be helpful to figure out without extensive programming knowledge? I know keycodes would be important, but I have no idea where to start from.
16:24:27speachyefqw_, try this: https://thehackerdiary.wordpress.com/2017/04/21/exploring-devinput-1/
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16:26:11efqw_I found this: https://github.com/FiiOapp/FiiO_Kernel_M3K/blob/master/arch/mips/xburst/soc-x1000/chip-x1000/halley2/common/keyboard_gpio.c
16:27:55speachythe steps in that hackerdiary link will tell us how the OS reports input events; you can punch the "buttons" one at a time and correlate it with the events
16:29:02efqw_I happen to know this is probably the config they actually used because I diffed the fiio kernel and ingenic's bsp kernel.
16:29:59efqw_This is the keyboard related file with the largest amount of new content for HALLEY2 on the FiiO side.
16:31:17speachyhaving (hopefully complete) kernel sources will make it easier to fix problems under the hood. it also makes it a lot easier to scrap the entire linux loadout and go bare-metal.
16:31:54speachybut the product lifecycles are so short now that by the time anything is working the supply will have dried up
16:33:05efqw_This is why I highly recommend sticking with the existing Linux installation and just run rb on top of it.
16:33:16speachyit's the only sane path forward, yeah.
16:36:27efqw_They have ALSA, working PMU drivers, existing kernel modules for dwc2, usb composite, usb serial, usb mass storage and even usb audio (all gadget of course), and most importantly, working LCD driver.
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16:40:14efqw_I've also been trying to figure out what the "libfiio.so" library does and whether we can get rid of it for a rb-only version.
16:41:03speachygrab it off the player and put it up somewhere or mail it to me or something
16:41:18speachyI can at least give you a high-level dump of what it has in it
16:41:29efqw_It at least handles media decoding which is not useful for rb (you'll get ffmpeg if you do `strings libfiio.so`)
16:42:02efqw_I can provide the instructions to extract the image, would that be more helpful?
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16:42:28speachybut does it do any hardware/config manipulation, ala the hiby system daemon that switches audio inputs, controls bluetooth, etc etc..
16:43:36efqw_fiio has a player_daemon binary instead
16:43:42efqw_it's only around 7kb
16:43:47efqw_*KB
16:46:34efqw_http://fiio-firmware.fiio.net/M3K/M3K_1.4.3/M3K.fw
16:46:45efqw_This is the latest stock fw from FiiO.
16:50:59efqw_It's a simple zip archive that you can extract, go to the extracted recovery-update/nand folder and batch extract every single archive into their own folders, then do `cat update*/update*/system.ubi_* > system.ubi`, and finally you'll be able to extract the resulting UBI image with ubireader.
16:53:21efqw_Both the player and player_daemon executables under /usr/project/bin are NOT stripped, which will be very helpful for someone who know what they're doing.
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16:54:14efqw_Everything I've mentioned here will be uploaded on the wiki at some point.
16:54:40efqw_Except the fiio stock fw which I have no right to redistribute.
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17:10:27efqw_From my understanding the `player_daemon` binary is a simple supervisor application to restart the `player` in case it crashes.
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17:18:00efqw_ /dev/input/event0 is the touchpad and /dev/input/event1 are the buttons.
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18:20:22efqw_https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/FiioM3K is now a thing. This page will be continuously updated this week until I can dump all the info I have onto the page.
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18:28:19speachyawesome! thank you!
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18:55:58efqw_Datasheet links and disassembly instructions have been updated.
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21:50:46efqw_Internal photos has been updated as well.
21:53:58speachyHeads-up: I'm going to take down gerrit for a little while to do some upgrade experiments.
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22:37:58speachyok, I'm going to consider that working.
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23:00:54__builtinagh, is it still down?
23:01:22__builtinoh, never mind
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23:01:45__builtinguess I'll have to wait til tomorrow to see how many things I just broke :)
23:03:04speachydiscovered a glitch in the updated gerrit. not the main functionality thankfully but the "New UI" is malfunctioning.
23:03:37__builtinI see it will now yell at you for long commit messages :)
23:03:45__builtin"remote: warning: 5094aaa: subject >50 characters; use shorter first paragraph"
23:03:56speachythat needs tweaking. 50 is way too short. :D
23:04:12__builtintoo bad it's not smart enough to say "you clearly have no idea what you're doing. Go re-learn C"
23:04:39mendel_munkis__builtin: that would be an awfully high barrier to contributing.
23:05:32speachyI can now turn on commit hooks that reject commits for that reason!
23:05:55speachywant to let this settle a bit before going to the next step
23:07:22mendel_munkisdoes anyone know of a good place to look for datasheets if a general purpose search-engine didn't turn the correct one up?
23:07:51__builtinfor what chip?
23:07:58mendel_munkisst7783
23:08:18mendel_munkisall I can find is st7781 and I want to figure out what the differences are.
23:11:49__builtinyou could try emailing the manufacturer or a reseller
23:12:08__builtinfor example https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32555420815.html claims to "Provide detail datasheet (sic)"
23:13:06mendel_munkis$20 says it's a link to the 7781 sheet.
23:13:17__builtinstill worth a short
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23:22:15speachygotta take gerrit offline again to reload its config
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23:42:54speachywtf.. the oauth plugin for gitlab is trying to tell it to go to https:/gerrit.rockbox.org/
23:42:59speachy( /, not //)
23:43:56__builtinpart of me hopes that's a typo
23:44:06__builtinbut if it is indeed a typo...
23:44:10speachynope
23:44:47speachythe oauth URL generated includes 'http:/' instead of ://
23:44:58*speachy shakes his head and mutters.
23:45:17__builtingitlab's fault, or gerrit-oauth?
23:46:09speachyit's generated by gerrit-oauth

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