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00:51:32 | mendelmunkis | speachy: how many downloads do the dev builds get? |
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07:38:35 | mendel_munkis | anyone have any comments on g#2457+ g#2458 besides adding hashing to lang files? |
07:38:39 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #2457 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/2457 : Add standard cancel to lang by Moshe Piekarski |
07:38:39 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #2458 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/2458 : Make md5sum more verbose by Moshe Piekarski |
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08:40:21 | speachy | mendelmunkis, I don't really know. not that many versus daily downloads. |
08:44:12 | speachy | in raw bandwidth terms, builds & buildmaster make up 15% of download.rockbox.org |
08:48:08 | speachy | so about 1.2GB/day vs ~8.3GB/day |
08:48:27 | speachy | I don't break down buildmater vs build |
08:51:45 | speachy | themes and everything under www is another 2GB and 1GB/day, and everything else combined is about 350MB/day. |
08:52:36 | speachy | one thing I don't have the ability to easily measure is anongit access. no idea about that. |
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09:21:55 | speachy | mendel_munkis, my only comment on 2458 is that it causes a regression on the original archos player as that only has two lines of display |
09:32:28 | mendel_munkis | speachy: so save it for after 2545 got it. |
09:33:20 | mendel_munkis | what about 2457? is it worth looking for places to use it? |
09:34:09 | speachy | sure, the more the merrier |
09:37:26 | mendel_munkis | also by the way I couldn't build the android16 and arm-ypr0-gcc446 arches with rockboxdev.sh |
09:43:47 | speachy | over the past month, 152 downloads of the archosplayer, under 20 of those are legit. a whopping six came via rbutil. |
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09:43:57 | speachy | so there are still users out there it seems. |
09:54:34 | efqw | speachy: do you think it's a good idea to put info about the new ingenic X1000[E] chips on the existing IngenicJz47xx wiki page? |
09:55:15 | efqw | I should probably clean up some of those dead Rapidshare links as well |
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09:56:26 | speachy | I don't see the harm in it. We can always split it off later should we get enough info |
09:57:29 | speachy | do you intend to attach the x1000 programming manual to the page too? |
09:59:03 | efqw | Do you think it's a good idea to do it? We can always just link to the ftp as well. |
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10:01:40 | efqw | The jz4760b's DS and PM are on there, so if ingenic didn't complain about those, they're very unlikely to complain about the newer ones either. |
10:01:45 | speachy | personally I don't trust it to not go away. We can leave the other stuff on the ftp site but the programming manual is pretty fundamental. |
10:02:05 | speachy | yeah, my thoughts exactly. |
10:02:18 | efqw | Yeah, unfortunately ingenic has an awful habit of silently removing files from their ftp |
10:03:06 | efqw | Most of the dead RapidShare files don't exist on there anymore I think. |
10:05:41 | efqw | I'd like to mirror their BSPs as well but the server is just way too slow, and I'm unable to find any reliable storage sites that would mirror those ftp directories for me. |
10:09:30 | mendel_munkis | wow U cant find a single other place it's used with a message. |
10:11:54 | speachy | I have the space but I don't want crawlers hitting it. |
10:13:04 | mendel_munkis | does anyone have any complaints about g#2415? |
10:13:05 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #2415 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/2415 : make the plugin API frambuffer agnostic by Moshe Piekarski |
10:14:57 | efqw | This mirror seems to be operated by AmauryPouly: ftp://grids.be/mirror/ftp.ingenic.cn |
10:15:37 | efqw | It has some of the missing old ingenic files, but the filename encoding on there is really messed up. |
10:15:53 | speachy | not from a coding perspective. But I think it would be good to describe in the commit _why_ this change is needed |
10:17:50 | efqw | Since AmauryPouly appears to be no longer active in the community, I'm worried about this mirror going down without notice. |
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10:20:26 | efqw | speachy: so if you have the space, maybe consider downloading this entire server first: ftp://grids.be/mirror (the two directories contain different files afaik, they're not the same). If you don't want crawlers hitting your storage, just don't make it publicly accessible. |
10:22:24 | speachy | it's going |
10:24:56 | efqw | I tried to fix some of the file encoding to no avail, the filenames were probably saved with the wrong encoding to begin with unfortunately. |
10:25:01 | speachy | (and, heh, if I suddenly go away that mirror will be the least of our problems..) |
10:28:28 | efqw | let's hope you don't disappear then :P |
10:30:19 | speachy | I would prefer that too |
10:47:31 | efqw | I have mostly figured out which version of the Ingenic Halley2 BSP FiiO was using by diffing their kernel on github with different versions of the BSP releases. |
10:50:05 | efqw | The BSP version 6.0 produced a bit more than 900KiB of text diff if you ignore the boot logo file, and that was the lowest that I can get to. |
10:50:32 | efqw | Other BSP versions (both old and new) gave me much larger diffs. |
10:51:45 | * | speachy nods. |
10:53:02 | efqw | I'll try to compile a hello world with the attached toolchain and see if it will run on the player. They're using an outdated version of EGLIBC and we probably have to match it to make a dual-boot firmware. |
10:55:16 | efqw | I'm also writing a simple debloating script to clean up the rootfs a bit, getting rid of the obvious stuff without affecting any functionality. |
10:56:41 | efqw | (wireless firmware blobs, libfiio.so that doesn't do anything, hostapd binaries, obex libs, etc.) |
10:57:49 | efqw | This could at least free up 10MB of disk space from the rootfs. |
10:59:44 | efqw | Additionally, the FiiO kernel does build with the v6 bsp toolchains, but I haven't tested the binary on my board yet. The recovery code and the actual "M3K.fw" archive generation scripts are missing entirely from their repo. |
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11:00:46 | efqw | (the one that splits the images into 1MB chunks and signs them with `apksign`) |
11:06:32 | mendel_munkis | interesting. sitronix claims that using their screen in HWM decreases power consumption. under similar loads I actually got less batterylife using HWM. |
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12:00:37 | __BIlgus_ | speachy the menu stuff worked a treat well after even one more patch to fix a bug I introduced |
12:01:19 | __BIlgus_ | and I checked the other plugins conversion to intptr works on first load but not once theuser is actually selecting items |
12:01:45 | __BIlgus_ | I ASSUME thats the desired behavior for those plugins?? |
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12:47:01 | TrashcanCoder | Hello, nice project ;=) |
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14:30:37 | bluebrother | speachy: reviewed it, looks good. Had some minor comments though :) |
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14:35:19 | Strife89 | Just noticed that the most recent build round hit 93% efficiency :) |
14:36:03 | speachy | bluebrother, looks like you're correct. Not sure why I left out the '.' |
14:37:23 | bluebrother | there's a problem with bspatch on macOS though. Stupid use of u_char ... |
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14:40:53 | speachy | okay, the wildcards are fixed, and it's submitted. |
14:41:09 | bluebrother | nice |
14:41:11 | speachy | guess that means I should update the wiki to reflect this newfound support |
14:43:02 | bluebrother | now I need to find some more time to actually get Rockbox Utility back to build out of the box on all 3 platforms |
14:43:12 | bluebrother | so we can eventually create a new release. |
14:43:46 | bluebrother | thinking about factoring out the bootloader installation for the ones that require root permissions into a separate binary. That way we wouldn't need to have the user handle that. |
14:43:57 | bluebrother | and on macOS we can acutally do that properly ... |
14:44:06 | bluebrother | s/can/could/ |
14:44:40 | * | bluebrother hopes to find some time for that in the not-so-distant future |
14:46:31 | mendel_munkis | does rbclient log build requests? |
14:48:16 | speachy | rbclient only downloads pre-built stuff. (and a fallback to generate language files if it's missing in the .rockbox directory on the player) |
14:49:15 | mendel_munkis | I thought rbclient was the build farm script |
14:49:53 | speachy | sorry, brain fart |
14:50:32 | speachy | rbclient logs stuff locally, yes.. to stdout. |
14:51:04 | mendel_munkis | but not to rbclient.log got it. thanks |
14:51:15 | speachy | it has a logfile on disk too but it's rather limited. just start/complete/uploads |
14:51:26 | speachy | stdout is a lot more verebose |
14:51:59 | mendel_munkis | it's also far less resilient against ssh connections getting dropped :) |
14:52:03 | bluebrother | Server message: Fatal build error: Command not found. You have been temporarily disabled. |
14:52:09 | bluebrother | hmm, but what command did it not find? |
14:52:32 | speachy | what was the build it tried to invoke? |
14:53:03 | speachy | basically the client uploads its logs, the server greps 'em for obvious errors, and makes that decision |
14:53:15 | speachy | so the client log would say what it did before it got terminated |
14:53:23 | bluebrother | ah, ok. |
14:53:26 | bluebrother | Completed build ipodmini2gmanual |
14:53:35 | bluebrother | that's the previous line. So that would be the broken build. |
14:55:35 | bluebrother | aah. That's the problem. |
14:55:59 | bluebrother | the manual build is configured as (N)ormal. And that requires the cross compiler, even though the manual wouldn't need it. |
14:56:13 | bluebrother | so now I can't build the manual because the cross compiler is missing :) |
14:56:50 | speachy | yeah, solving that is on my todo list |
14:57:41 | speachy | (ie making builds depend on more than one client capability flag) |
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14:58:09 | bluebrother | well, the manual builds could simply configure as (S)imulator |
14:58:29 | bluebrother | so one would only need the host compiler. |
14:58:40 | speachy | IIRC some feature flags are different for sim vs native builds |
14:59:05 | bluebrother | hmm? Should they? |
14:59:07 | speachy | which can affect manual and voice generation |
14:59:23 | speachy | probably not, but I know it's bitten me in the past |
14:59:50 | bluebrother | ok, so I switched the client to sdl. Hopefully that won't cause those weird failures it had a while back. |
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15:00:42 | bluebrother | one thing that would be nice was a way to connect a client without it building anything. That client is only running to get the messages from the server for the bot, and the box is rather slow. |
15:01:09 | bluebrother | so building anything that needs the cross compiler is pointless. Since latex isn't on too many machines the manual makes somewhat sense. |
15:01:29 | bluebrother | but configuring it for sdl makes it get used for the sim, and for that it's pointless as well due to the speed. |
15:01:48 | speachy | that ought to work, I think. the build start/end message goes out to all clients regardless if they did anythign or not |
15:02:27 | bluebrother | true, but the problem is that I have to specify at least one supported arch. Otherwise the client doesn't start at all. |
15:02:55 | bluebrother | so yes, I could keep it configured for latex, and always end up as temporarily disabled. Still get the messages :) |
15:02:58 | speachy | that's purely a client issue |
15:03:11 | bluebrother | bit it's somewhat ugly. |
15:03:18 | speachy | add a "dummy" target to %compilers |
15:03:36 | bluebrother | true, but I didn't bother to hack the client so far :) |
15:04:44 | speachy | the server doesn't care what capabilities you advertise, it'll just never assign anything to you since you don't have anything that's needed |
15:05:47 | bluebrother | guess I have to do that then. But not today anymore. |
15:06:08 | speachy | bluebrother, g#2566 |
15:08:46 | mendel_munkis | I am getting fatal build error missing log file. any advice? |
15:13:33 | bluebrother | thanks :) I'm out for today though. |
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15:15:36 | speachy | enjoy your evening! and thanks for the review |
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15:15:40 | Strife89 | eefi handled more builds than I expected it to in the previous round |
15:16:18 | Strife89 | (That's the one that was horrifically slow and was on WSL1; I put Debian on it) |
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15:18:58 | Strife89 | mendel_munkis_: Check permissions? |
15:28:45 | mendel_munkis_ | permissions on what? |
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15:36:10 | mendel_munkis | also for some reason buildclient is givving me an error about a missing android environment var although I don't _think_ I am advertising any android capabilities |
15:38:27 | speachy | I'd double-check that. |
15:42:40 | mendel_munkis | speachy: just the two native sets and the special set. |
15:43:59 | mendel_munkis | (I ran into issues building for hosted and couldn't find any info on building for android) |
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15:57:16 | Strife89 | Yeah, I always get three lines when I start the script, complaining about use of an uninitialized variable |
15:57:29 | Strife89 | ANDROID_SDK_PATH if I remember right |
15:57:55 | speachy | aaah, okay I see. |
15:57:56 | Strife89 | It's harmless, and I'm positive I'm not advertising Android building in runclient.sh |
15:58:15 | speachy | just perl complaining that ANDROID_SDK_PATH is not found in the environment. |
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16:00:23 | Strife89 | speachy, I dunno if you or any of the other devs will care, but here are some details on builder "eefi": |
16:01:31 | Strife89 | It's slow as hell, but it's on the work Internet, and it will be there until further notice. If I set up my crontab right, it will suspend to ram at midnight EST and wake up at 7:00 |
16:03:13 | Strife89 | So I have up to three clients for y'all to make use of during U.S. daylight hours |
16:03:41 | Strife89 | Hope they're helpful. |
16:04:15 | __builtin | Strife89: thank you! |
16:04:46 | speachy | builders are good to have −− but will your employer care about the suspicious activity? |
16:04:50 | Strife89 | You're welcome! |
16:04:59 | speachy | "suspicious" rather |
16:05:00 | Strife89 | Not one bit |
16:05:11 | Strife89 | I work at a small church and I *am* the IT |
16:05:54 | Strife89 | The sleep schedule is intended to reduce heat and electricity usage, and I'm tithing to the church so indirectly making up for my usage |
16:08:24 | Strife89 | Also it's a laptop, so it's not drawing much to begin with |
16:08:31 | Strife89 | relatively |
16:11:27 | Strife89 | If my ethics-o-meter needs calibrating, let me know |
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16:24:44 | speachy | it's just a matter of permission. |
16:26:31 | Strife89 | Okay. I'll ask for it, then. |
16:34:27 | speachy | if they just blink blankly at you then I'll take that as a yes. :) |
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16:38:26 | Strife89 | I apologise for predicating this on an assumption that I didn't need permission (more accurately, it never crossed my mind that I should even need (to ask for) it) |
16:39:10 | Strife89 | I've gotten used to getting an enthusiastic, "sure, that's fine" I guess |
16:39:36 | speachy | it's your judgement call; nobody here is in any position to do anything than take your word for it |
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17:04:15 | speachy | so, here's a question that keeps coming up. on many targets, usb-charging vs usb-doing-something is entirely up to the application. what would it take to, upon usb insertion, pop up a prompt asking what to do? |
17:05:33 | speachy | eg "press select to enter usb mode, any other key to just charge" |
17:06:10 | speachy | or a menu to pick "mass storage / HID mode / charge-only / thermonuclear war" |
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17:15:18 | icypee | hello |
17:15:29 | icypee | i have a problem with rockbox |
17:15:38 | icypee | well |
17:15:57 | icypee | how do i downgrade to the regular build of rockbox from the development version? |
17:16:27 | icypee | because i'm on the development version on my sansa and it keeps randomly turning off |
17:16:28 | mendelmunkis | overwrite .rockbox with the stable version. |
17:16:35 | icypee | thanks |
17:16:39 | icypee | that's all i do? |
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17:25:18 | icypee | ok i installed the non development build and it's turning off even more |
17:25:18 | icypee | how do i fix this? |
17:25:19 | mendelmunkis | overwrite .rockbox with the dev version. |
17:25:19 | mendelmunkis | and file a bug |
17:25:37 | icypee | is there a thing in rockbox that shows the errors? |
17:25:40 | icypee | or some log |
17:25:44 | mendelmunkis | although that sounds like it's probably hardware |
17:26:07 | icypee | could be |
17:26:47 | icypee | is there logs in rockbox? |
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18:29:51 | speachy | okay, here's a proof-of-concept. g#2568 |
18:29:53 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #2568 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/2568 : usb: prompt user about what to do upon usb insertion (WIP) by Solomon Peachy |
18:36:30 | __BIlgus_ | icypee there are logs if you install a logf version of rb although I don't think there are any pre compiled |
18:37:12 | Strife89 | "Randomly turning off" sounds vaguely like an aged battery dropping off while the percentage reading is still high. |
18:37:16 | __BIlgus_ | does it turn off randomly in the OF original firmware eith hold home left or volume up depending on player or see the manual |
18:38:47 | Strife89 | So yeah, what Bilgus asked |
18:38:53 | __BIlgus_ | if it turns off in the OF then its most definitely hardware also see (in rockbox) the debug menu under IO and see if any button codes are getting thrown maybe bad power switch, does it turn off while plugged in? could be battery |
18:46:59 | icypee | ummmm |
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18:53:40 | icypee | i'm running the metadata log |
18:53:57 | icypee | will that give me anything useful if it turns off again? |
18:57:07 | Strife89 | Depends on the cause, I imagine |
18:57:48 | icypee | ohhh |
18:57:53 | icypee | what do you mean? |
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20:23:35 | __Bilgus_ | icypee the metadata log will only do you any good if its a particular song causing the player to turn off |
20:30:01 | icypee | ohhhhh |
20:30:11 | icypee | guess i'll disable that\ |
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21:49:02 | icypee | ok i figured out it's a hardware problem |
21:49:08 | icypee | and not a problem with my music |
21:49:24 | icypee | because i can be in the menus looking for a song and it'll turn off |
21:50:24 | icypee | how do i tell if it's something wrong with the battery though? |
21:50:36 | icypee | because if it is, i'll just replace the battery' |
21:50:47 | icypee | if it isn't, i'll buy a new player |
21:56:24 | __Bilgus_ | plug it into a wall charger (not pc) |
21:57:08 | __Bilgus_ | see if it does it in the original firmware as well |
21:59:32 | icypee | what should i do once i plug it into a wall charger? |
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22:11:51 | speachy | __Bilgus_, do you think there's any point to g#2361? |
22:11:53 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #2361 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/2361 : WIP: Run-time validation of INT settings. by Solomon Peachy |
22:12:31 | __Bilgus_ | no |
22:13:30 | __Bilgus_ | as far as I can tell its of little use the better place for it is in all the consumers |
22:15:50 | __Bilgus_ | oh sorry I was thinking of my little trip seeing if we could validate everything |
22:16:11 | __Bilgus_ | 2361 doesn't seem like it could hurt TBH |
22:16:32 | icypee | so should i listen to music for a little while once i plug it into a wall? |
22:16:39 | __Bilgus_ | might piss off the people who want absolutely large playlists |
22:16:57 | __Bilgus_ | icypee do what ever you do that normally has it shutting off? |
22:17:06 | icypee | well |
22:17:09 | icypee | it happens randomly |
22:17:39 | icypee | but it always happens while i'm using it |
22:17:41 | __Bilgus_ | the do some random shit? |
22:17:50 | icypee | alright |
22:17:50 | __Bilgus_ | then* |
22:18:52 | __Bilgus_ | idk try bouncing and jostling it play some music run a few plugins and if it doesn't happen then you'll never be absolutely sure |
22:19:04 | __Bilgus_ | I hate random stuff |
22:19:24 | icypee | ok |
22:19:38 | __Bilgus_ | is this a clip zip + fuzee? |
22:19:47 | icypee | sansa e260r |
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22:22:07 | __Bilgus_ | have you ever replaced the battery icypee? |
22:22:57 | icypee | nope |
22:23:46 | __Bilgus_ | then it could be it but so could anything else |
22:24:40 | icypee | i should still replace the battery though |
22:24:56 | mendelmunkis | huh for some reason the build graph shows my machine with a build running off the left of the chart. shoud I be worried? |
22:25:07 | mendelmunkis | s/shoud/should/ |
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22:26:44 | icypee | alright going to test it in the wall now |
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22:29:31 | speachy | wtf? |
22:30:31 | speachy | I swear I built this thing. |
22:32:25 | mendel_munkis | speachy: you removed the decleration of temp. |
22:32:34 | speachy | well, yeah. :) |
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22:39:37 | speachy | turns out what I'd built wasn't what was sitting in gerrit. |
22:39:42 | speachy | whoops. |
22:40:06 | mendel_munkis | indeed |
22:42:45 | mendel_munkis | I also somehow appear to be skewing the start date for builds to the 60s |
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23:01:00 | icypee | _Bilgus_ hmmm |
23:01:10 | icypee | it's turning off even when i have it plugged in |
23:03:44 | icypee | does that mean there's something up with the battery? |
23:07:03 | icypee | yeah it turned off again while i was playing one of the games |
23:27:30 | mendel_munkis | there are a lot of cr/lf removal commit messages |
23:30:29 | mendel_munkis | does anyone have any objections to the patch in fs#5757? |
23:30:31 | fs-bluebot | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5757 Correctly display short DOS file names in file browser (patches, unconfirmed) |
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23:53:53 | mendel_munkis | I mean besides being horrendously out of date |