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#rockbox log for 2020-07-20

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00:51:32mendelmunkisspeachy: how many downloads do the dev builds get?
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07:38:35mendel_munkisanyone have any comments on g#2457+ g#2458 besides adding hashing to lang files?
07:38:39fs-bluebotGerrit review #2457 at : Add standard cancel to lang by Moshe Piekarski
07:38:39fs-bluebotGerrit review #2458 at : Make md5sum more verbose by Moshe Piekarski
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08:40:21speachymendelmunkis, I don't really know. not that many versus daily downloads.
08:44:12speachyin raw bandwidth terms, builds & buildmaster make up 15% of
08:48:08speachyso about 1.2GB/day vs ~8.3GB/day
08:48:27speachyI don't break down buildmater vs build
08:51:45speachythemes and everything under www is another 2GB and 1GB/day, and everything else combined is about 350MB/day.
08:52:36speachyone thing I don't have the ability to easily measure is anongit access. no idea about that.
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09:21:55speachymendel_munkis, my only comment on 2458 is that it causes a regression on the original archos player as that only has two lines of display
09:32:28mendel_munkisspeachy: so save it for after 2545 got it.
09:33:20mendel_munkiswhat about 2457? is it worth looking for places to use it?
09:34:09speachysure, the more the merrier
09:37:26mendel_munkisalso by the way I couldn't build the android16 and arm-ypr0-gcc446 arches with
09:43:47speachyover the past month, 152 downloads of the archosplayer, under 20 of those are legit. a whopping six came via rbutil.
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09:43:57speachyso there are still users out there it seems.
09:54:34efqwspeachy: do you think it's a good idea to put info about the new ingenic X1000[E] chips on the existing IngenicJz47xx wiki page?
09:55:15efqwI should probably clean up some of those dead Rapidshare links as well
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09:56:26speachyI don't see the harm in it. We can always split it off later should we get enough info
09:57:29speachydo you intend to attach the x1000 programming manual to the page too?
09:59:03efqwDo you think it's a good idea to do it? We can always just link to the ftp as well.
10:01:40efqwThe jz4760b's DS and PM are on there, so if ingenic didn't complain about those, they're very unlikely to complain about the newer ones either.
10:01:45speachypersonally I don't trust it to not go away. We can leave the other stuff on the ftp site but the programming manual is pretty fundamental.
10:02:05speachyyeah, my thoughts exactly.
10:02:18efqwYeah, unfortunately ingenic has an awful habit of silently removing files from their ftp
10:03:06efqwMost of the dead RapidShare files don't exist on there anymore I think.
10:05:41efqwI'd like to mirror their BSPs as well but the server is just way too slow, and I'm unable to find any reliable storage sites that would mirror those ftp directories for me.
10:09:30mendel_munkiswow U cant find a single other place it's used with a message.
10:11:54speachyI have the space but I don't want crawlers hitting it.
10:13:04mendel_munkisdoes anyone have any complaints about g#2415?
10:13:05fs-bluebotGerrit review #2415 at : make the plugin API frambuffer agnostic by Moshe Piekarski
10:14:57efqwThis mirror seems to be operated by AmauryPouly:
10:15:37efqwIt has some of the missing old ingenic files, but the filename encoding on there is really messed up.
10:15:53speachynot from a coding perspective. But I think it would be good to describe in the commit _why_ this change is needed
10:17:50efqwSince AmauryPouly appears to be no longer active in the community, I'm worried about this mirror going down without notice.
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10:20:26efqwspeachy: so if you have the space, maybe consider downloading this entire server first: (the two directories contain different files afaik, they're not the same). If you don't want crawlers hitting your storage, just don't make it publicly accessible.
10:22:24speachyit's going
10:24:56efqwI tried to fix some of the file encoding to no avail, the filenames were probably saved with the wrong encoding to begin with unfortunately.
10:25:01speachy(and, heh, if I suddenly go away that mirror will be the least of our problems..)
10:28:28efqwlet's hope you don't disappear then :P
10:30:19speachyI would prefer that too
10:47:31efqwI have mostly figured out which version of the Ingenic Halley2 BSP FiiO was using by diffing their kernel on github with different versions of the BSP releases.
10:50:05efqwThe BSP version 6.0 produced a bit more than 900KiB of text diff if you ignore the boot logo file, and that was the lowest that I can get to.
10:50:32efqwOther BSP versions (both old and new) gave me much larger diffs.
10:51:45*speachy nods.
10:53:02efqwI'll try to compile a hello world with the attached toolchain and see if it will run on the player. They're using an outdated version of EGLIBC and we probably have to match it to make a dual-boot firmware.
10:55:16efqwI'm also writing a simple debloating script to clean up the rootfs a bit, getting rid of the obvious stuff without affecting any functionality.
10:56:41efqw(wireless firmware blobs, that doesn't do anything, hostapd binaries, obex libs, etc.)
10:57:49efqwThis could at least free up 10MB of disk space from the rootfs.
10:59:44efqwAdditionally, the FiiO kernel does build with the v6 bsp toolchains, but I haven't tested the binary on my board yet. The recovery code and the actual "M3K.fw" archive generation scripts are missing entirely from their repo.
11:00:46efqw(the one that splits the images into 1MB chunks and signs them with `apksign`)
11:06:32mendel_munkisinteresting. sitronix claims that using their screen in HWM decreases power consumption. under similar loads I actually got less batterylife using HWM.
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12:00:37__BIlgus_speachy the menu stuff worked a treat well after even one more patch to fix a bug I introduced
12:01:19__BIlgus_and I checked the other plugins conversion to intptr works on first load but not once theuser is actually selecting items
12:01:45__BIlgus_I ASSUME thats the desired behavior for those plugins??
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12:47:01TrashcanCoderHello, nice project ;=)
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14:30:37bluebrotherspeachy: reviewed it, looks good. Had some minor comments though :)
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14:35:19Strife89Just noticed that the most recent build round hit 93% efficiency :)
14:36:03speachybluebrother, looks like you're correct. Not sure why I left out the '.'
14:37:23bluebrotherthere's a problem with bspatch on macOS though. Stupid use of u_char ...
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14:40:53speachyokay, the wildcards are fixed, and it's submitted.
14:41:11speachyguess that means I should update the wiki to reflect this newfound support
14:43:02bluebrothernow I need to find some more time to actually get Rockbox Utility back to build out of the box on all 3 platforms
14:43:12bluebrotherso we can eventually create a new release.
14:43:46bluebrotherthinking about factoring out the bootloader installation for the ones that require root permissions into a separate binary. That way we wouldn't need to have the user handle that.
14:43:57bluebrotherand on macOS we can acutally do that properly ...
14:44:40*bluebrother hopes to find some time for that in the not-so-distant future
14:46:31mendel_munkisdoes rbclient log build requests?
14:48:16speachyrbclient only downloads pre-built stuff. (and a fallback to generate language files if it's missing in the .rockbox directory on the player)
14:49:15mendel_munkisI thought rbclient was the build farm script
14:49:53speachysorry, brain fart
14:50:32speachyrbclient logs stuff locally, yes.. to stdout.
14:51:04mendel_munkisbut not to rbclient.log got it. thanks
14:51:15speachyit has a logfile on disk too but it's rather limited. just start/complete/uploads
14:51:26speachystdout is a lot more verebose
14:51:59mendel_munkisit's also far less resilient against ssh connections getting dropped :)
14:52:03bluebrotherServer message: Fatal build error: Command not found. You have been temporarily disabled.
14:52:09bluebrotherhmm, but what command did it not find?
14:52:32speachywhat was the build it tried to invoke?
14:53:03speachybasically the client uploads its logs, the server greps 'em for obvious errors, and makes that decision
14:53:15speachyso the client log would say what it did before it got terminated
14:53:23bluebrotherah, ok.
14:53:26bluebrotherCompleted build ipodmini2gmanual
14:53:35bluebrotherthat's the previous line. So that would be the broken build.
14:55:35bluebrotheraah. That's the problem.
14:55:59bluebrotherthe manual build is configured as (N)ormal. And that requires the cross compiler, even though the manual wouldn't need it.
14:56:13bluebrotherso now I can't build the manual because the cross compiler is missing :)
14:56:50speachyyeah, solving that is on my todo list
14:57:41speachy(ie making builds depend on more than one client capability flag)
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14:58:09bluebrotherwell, the manual builds could simply configure as (S)imulator
14:58:29bluebrotherso one would only need the host compiler.
14:58:40speachyIIRC some feature flags are different for sim vs native builds
14:59:05bluebrotherhmm? Should they?
14:59:07speachywhich can affect manual and voice generation
14:59:23speachyprobably not, but I know it's bitten me in the past
14:59:50bluebrotherok, so I switched the client to sdl. Hopefully that won't cause those weird failures it had a while back.
15:00:42bluebrotherone thing that would be nice was a way to connect a client without it building anything. That client is only running to get the messages from the server for the bot, and the box is rather slow.
15:01:09bluebrotherso building anything that needs the cross compiler is pointless. Since latex isn't on too many machines the manual makes somewhat sense.
15:01:29bluebrotherbut configuring it for sdl makes it get used for the sim, and for that it's pointless as well due to the speed.
15:01:48speachythat ought to work, I think. the build start/end message goes out to all clients regardless if they did anythign or not
15:02:27bluebrothertrue, but the problem is that I have to specify at least one supported arch. Otherwise the client doesn't start at all.
15:02:55bluebrotherso yes, I could keep it configured for latex, and always end up as temporarily disabled. Still get the messages :)
15:02:58speachythat's purely a client issue
15:03:11bluebrotherbit it's somewhat ugly.
15:03:18speachyadd a "dummy" target to %compilers
15:03:36bluebrothertrue, but I didn't bother to hack the client so far :)
15:04:44speachythe server doesn't care what capabilities you advertise, it'll just never assign anything to you since you don't have anything that's needed
15:05:47bluebrotherguess I have to do that then. But not today anymore.
15:06:08speachybluebrother, g#2566
15:08:46mendel_munkisI am getting fatal build error missing log file. any advice?
15:13:33bluebrotherthanks :) I'm out for today though.
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15:15:36speachyenjoy your evening! and thanks for the review
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15:15:40Strife89eefi handled more builds than I expected it to in the previous round
15:16:18Strife89(That's the one that was horrifically slow and was on WSL1; I put Debian on it)
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15:18:58Strife89mendel_munkis_: Check permissions?
15:28:45mendel_munkis_permissions on what?
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15:36:10mendel_munkisalso for some reason buildclient is givving me an error about a missing android environment var although I don't _think_ I am advertising any android capabilities
15:38:27speachyI'd double-check that.
15:42:40mendel_munkisspeachy: just the two native sets and the special set.
15:43:59mendel_munkis(I ran into issues building for hosted and couldn't find any info on building for android)
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15:57:16Strife89Yeah, I always get three lines when I start the script, complaining about use of an uninitialized variable
15:57:29Strife89ANDROID_SDK_PATH if I remember right
15:57:55speachyaaah, okay I see.
15:57:56Strife89It's harmless, and I'm positive I'm not advertising Android building in
15:58:15speachyjust perl complaining that ANDROID_SDK_PATH is not found in the environment.
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16:00:23Strife89speachy, I dunno if you or any of the other devs will care, but here are some details on builder "eefi":
16:01:31Strife89It's slow as hell, but it's on the work Internet, and it will be there until further notice. If I set up my crontab right, it will suspend to ram at midnight EST and wake up at 7:00
16:03:13Strife89So I have up to three clients for y'all to make use of during U.S. daylight hours
16:03:41Strife89Hope they're helpful.
16:04:15__builtinStrife89: thank you!
16:04:46speachybuilders are good to have −− but will your employer care about the suspicious activity?
16:04:50Strife89You're welcome!
16:04:59speachy"suspicious" rather
16:05:00Strife89Not one bit
16:05:11Strife89I work at a small church and I *am* the IT
16:05:54Strife89The sleep schedule is intended to reduce heat and electricity usage, and I'm tithing to the church so indirectly making up for my usage
16:08:24Strife89Also it's a laptop, so it's not drawing much to begin with
16:11:27Strife89If my ethics-o-meter needs calibrating, let me know
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16:24:44speachyit's just a matter of permission.
16:26:31Strife89Okay. I'll ask for it, then.
16:34:27speachyif they just blink blankly at you then I'll take that as a yes. :)
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16:38:26Strife89I apologise for predicating this on an assumption that I didn't need permission (more accurately, it never crossed my mind that I should even need (to ask for) it)
16:39:10Strife89I've gotten used to getting an enthusiastic, "sure, that's fine" I guess
16:39:36speachyit's your judgement call; nobody here is in any position to do anything than take your word for it
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17:04:15speachyso, here's a question that keeps coming up. on many targets, usb-charging vs usb-doing-something is entirely up to the application. what would it take to, upon usb insertion, pop up a prompt asking what to do?
17:05:33speachyeg "press select to enter usb mode, any other key to just charge"
17:06:10speachyor a menu to pick "mass storage / HID mode / charge-only / thermonuclear war"
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17:15:29icypeei have a problem with rockbox
17:15:57icypeehow do i downgrade to the regular build of rockbox from the development version?
17:16:27icypeebecause i'm on the development version on my sansa and it keeps randomly turning off
17:16:28mendelmunkisoverwrite .rockbox with the stable version.
17:16:39icypeethat's all i do?
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17:25:18icypeeok i installed the non development build and it's turning off even more
17:25:18icypeehow do i fix this?
17:25:19mendelmunkisoverwrite .rockbox with the dev version.
17:25:19mendelmunkisand file a bug
17:25:37icypeeis there a thing in rockbox that shows the errors?
17:25:40icypeeor some log
17:25:44mendelmunkisalthough that sounds like it's probably hardware
17:26:07icypeecould be
17:26:47icypeeis there logs in rockbox?
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18:29:51speachyokay, here's a proof-of-concept. g#2568
18:29:53fs-bluebotGerrit review #2568 at : usb: prompt user about what to do upon usb insertion (WIP) by Solomon Peachy
18:36:30__BIlgus_icypee there are logs if you install a logf version of rb although I don't think there are any pre compiled
18:37:12Strife89"Randomly turning off" sounds vaguely like an aged battery dropping off while the percentage reading is still high.
18:37:16__BIlgus_does it turn off randomly in the OF original firmware eith hold home left or volume up depending on player or see the manual
18:38:47Strife89So yeah, what Bilgus asked
18:38:53__BIlgus_if it turns off in the OF then its most definitely hardware also see (in rockbox) the debug menu under IO and see if any button codes are getting thrown maybe bad power switch, does it turn off while plugged in? could be battery
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18:53:40icypeei'm running the metadata log
18:53:57icypeewill that give me anything useful if it turns off again?
18:57:07Strife89Depends on the cause, I imagine
18:57:53icypeewhat do you mean?
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20:23:35__Bilgus_icypee the metadata log will only do you any good if its a particular song causing the player to turn off
20:30:11icypeeguess i'll disable that\
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21:49:02icypeeok i figured out it's a hardware problem
21:49:08icypeeand not a problem with my music
21:49:24icypeebecause i can be in the menus looking for a song and it'll turn off
21:50:24icypeehow do i tell if it's something wrong with the battery though?
21:50:36icypeebecause if it is, i'll just replace the battery'
21:50:47icypeeif it isn't, i'll buy a new player
21:56:24__Bilgus_plug it into a wall charger (not pc)
21:57:08__Bilgus_see if it does it in the original firmware as well
21:59:32icypeewhat should i do once i plug it into a wall charger?
22:11:51speachy__Bilgus_, do you think there's any point to g#2361?
22:11:53fs-bluebotGerrit review #2361 at : WIP: Run-time validation of INT settings. by Solomon Peachy
22:13:30__Bilgus_as far as I can tell its of little use the better place for it is in all the consumers
22:15:50__Bilgus_oh sorry I was thinking of my little trip seeing if we could validate everything
22:16:11__Bilgus_2361 doesn't seem like it could hurt TBH
22:16:32icypeeso should i listen to music for a little while once i plug it into a wall?
22:16:39__Bilgus_might piss off the people who want absolutely large playlists
22:16:57__Bilgus_icypee do what ever you do that normally has it shutting off?
22:17:09icypeeit happens randomly
22:17:39icypeebut it always happens while i'm using it
22:17:41__Bilgus_the do some random shit?
22:18:52__Bilgus_idk try bouncing and jostling it play some music run a few plugins and if it doesn't happen then you'll never be absolutely sure
22:19:04__Bilgus_I hate random stuff
22:19:38__Bilgus_is this a clip zip + fuzee?
22:19:47icypeesansa e260r
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22:22:07__Bilgus_have you ever replaced the battery icypee?
22:23:46__Bilgus_then it could be it but so could anything else
22:24:40icypeei should still replace the battery though
22:24:56mendelmunkishuh for some reason the build graph shows my machine with a build running off the left of the chart. shoud I be worried?
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22:26:44icypeealright going to test it in the wall now
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22:30:31speachyI swear I built this thing.
22:32:25mendel_munkisspeachy: you removed the decleration of temp.
22:32:34speachywell, yeah. :)
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22:39:37speachyturns out what I'd built wasn't what was sitting in gerrit.
22:42:45mendel_munkisI also somehow appear to be skewing the start date for builds to the 60s
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23:01:00icypee_Bilgus_ hmmm
23:01:10icypeeit's turning off even when i have it plugged in
23:03:44icypeedoes that mean there's something up with the battery?
23:07:03icypeeyeah it turned off again while i was playing one of the games
23:27:30mendel_munkisthere are a lot of cr/lf removal commit messages
23:30:29mendel_munkisdoes anyone have any objections to the patch in fs#5757?
23:30:31fs-bluebot Correctly display short DOS file names in file browser (patches, unconfirmed)
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23:53:53mendel_munkisI mean besides being horrendously out of date

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