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00:49:18 | speachy | ugh. to fix this translation site + genlang issue I might need to actually properly parse the language xml files. |
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07:26:09 | Skyrider | Ey everyone |
07:26:40 | Skyrider | Was wondering if someone can help me out. Ever since a few weeks ago, my sansa clip+ USb started to stop working. It'll charge, but I can no longer transfer files. |
07:26:59 | Skyrider | I already tried a second system, and a different cable. Its refusing to create a partition on my system. |
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08:13:33 | Skyrider | As I formatted to try that out.. Rockbox won't load anymore (duh) and partition is still not created. |
08:13:47 | Skyrider | Installer is unable to detect the partition, yet for some reason keeps grabbing N:\ |
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08:27:57 | Skyrider | I assume my clip is broken? |
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08:49:47 | Skyrider | So pissed >_> |
08:57:25 | Skyrider | I hope someone can reply... eventually. |
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09:00:23 | Skyrider | Most sucky thing is that all rockbox supported device are no longer sold. |
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09:29:06 | __Bilgus_ | Skyrider, So the usb worked and deleted the partition? |
09:29:43 | __Bilgus_ | *worked and allowed you to format the player? |
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09:31:57 | Skyrider | It used to work a couple of months ago. |
09:32:11 | Skyrider | It broke down, no longer creating any partition. Even linux can't find it. |
09:32:27 | __Bilgus_ | oh good at least you are using linux |
09:32:34 | Skyrider | Windows, actually. |
09:32:51 | __Bilgus_ | :( |
09:33:02 | Skyrider | But... the device is broken regardless. Mostly half of the sound is working on the left or right side. |
09:33:09 | __Bilgus_ | did you format the player w/ windows? |
09:33:21 | Skyrider | I haven't touched it since last time I put new music onto it. |
09:33:40 | __Bilgus_ | thats the headphone jack, its replacable at least |
09:33:53 | Skyrider | Ya, I know.. But that thing is a bitch to open up >_> |
09:34:08 | Skyrider | And I don't really mind a new MP3 player.. but none of them support variable playback speed. |
09:34:15 | __Bilgus_ | ok so player worked; player no usb; try again player won't boot? |
09:34:40 | Skyrider | If I connect the USB port, it says its "connected" (in the default os) |
09:34:58 | Skyrider | Even if I change the USB mode, nothing. Recovery mode? (home button hold), nothing. |
09:35:36 | __Bilgus_ | ok so the player boots into the OF still? |
09:35:56 | __Bilgus_ | Original Firmware.. |
09:36:32 | Skyrider | If I force it to, yes. |
09:36:43 | Skyrider | By default it says rockbox not found.. obviously, as I formatted it. |
09:36:51 | Skyrider | I was "hoping" that would do the trick |
09:37:02 | __Bilgus_ | force it to? like holding volume on start you mean? |
09:37:20 | Skyrider | Home button on boot, yes. |
09:37:22 | __Bilgus_ | ok getting somewhere |
09:38:12 | __Bilgus_ | oh Clip+ then was thinking you had said clipzip |
09:38:42 | Skyrider | Nope ^^ |
09:39:23 | __Bilgus_ | OK how did you format the device? |
09:40:02 | __Bilgus_ | did you do that from within the OF or did you use a computer? |
09:40:25 | Skyrider | I have, no idea.. was years since I last formatted it |
09:40:47 | Skyrider | The device itself was still working normally. Just unable to connect USB. |
09:40:51 | __Bilgus_ | Skyrider09:36:32If I force it to, yes.By default it says rockbox not found.. obviously, as I formatted it.I was "hoping" that would do the trick |
09:41:03 | Skyrider | Oh, that part. |
09:41:09 | Skyrider | Using the device format option |
09:41:23 | __Bilgus_ | ah ok good thank god not windows |
09:42:08 | __Bilgus_ | windows like to wipe out the whole shebang when stuff goes south |
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09:42:53 | Skyrider | I assume I can't install rockbox by SD, can I |
09:43:54 | __Bilgus_ | well it depoends when you actually did the bootloader installation, I've had a sd capable bootloader in mainline for at least a year' |
09:44:35 | Skyrider | I think I last updated last year. |
09:44:44 | Skyrider | But only rockbox though. |
09:45:34 | Skyrider | But I've been looking for a new mp3 player for a long while now... just, want, that, variable playback speed function.. |
09:45:53 | Skyrider | Not sure if this was device specific or rockbox option. |
09:45:54 | __Bilgus_ | if you have that bootloader we can boot for the sd by putting the .rockbox folder on the sd card and creating a file with a single / on root called rockbox_main.clip+ |
09:46:27 | __Bilgus_ | https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51844.0.html |
09:48:28 | __Bilgus_ | if not though, I'm not sure how we can get back into the player without usb, the OF is quite a rigid |
09:49:41 | __Bilgus_ | You might try a known good usb cord and tweak it back a forth to see if you can get a connection to occur |
09:50:29 | __Bilgus_ | you could take it apart and freshen up the solder on the usb connection |
09:52:10 | Skyrider | What is debug mode? |
09:55:31 | __Bilgus_ | you mean recovery mode? |
09:55:53 | Skyrider | >now put sd card in device and reboot; Under Debug menu you should have a new entry 'Bootdata' that lists the current boot drive< |
09:56:20 | __Bilgus_ | thats from within rockbox |
09:56:26 | Skyrider | Ah |
09:57:02 | Skyrider | Which I no longer have |
09:57:13 | __Bilgus_ | if you have the newer bootloader rb will boot from the sd card if not you are still at square 1 |
09:57:27 | Skyrider | Says file not found still |
09:58:10 | __Bilgus_ | then its the older one, you did put rockbox_main.clip+ on the root of the sd card? |
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10:00:22 | __Bilgus_ | and a DEV version of rockbox on there too, has to be a dev version from https://build.rockbox.org/ |
10:02:16 | __Bilgus_ | if not though you are going to need the USB, the OF has no provision to move files around |
10:08:50 | Skyrider | lemme try |
10:10:57 | Skyrider | Guess thats a no go |
10:11:14 | Skyrider | Device just boots normally into the default OS when I hold the home button, and file not found upon normal boot |
10:14:51 | Skyrider | Guess its time for a new mp3 player... maybe a sandisk jam or sport |
10:17:48 | speachy | those won't ever be rockboxed, fyi. and have a very limited feature set even by the clip's OF standards. |
10:18:18 | speachy | commercially-available options include the xduoo x3 (either version) or the agptek rocker. |
10:19:03 | Strife89 | Skyrider: If you're willing, iPods are relatively easy to come by on fleaBay |
10:19:37 | Strife89 | And you can swap out the HDD for flash storage |
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10:23:53 | __Bilgus_ | but all those are SO much larger than the clip(s) |
10:24:23 | speachy | true. |
10:26:44 | Skyrider | Ya, I like the small packages of the clips. |
10:26:58 | Skyrider | As I tend to swap music often, I keep the player in my hand. |
10:27:47 | Strife89 | Understandable. |
10:30:40 | Strife89 | Sansa c250s come close, and I see a CIB one for $45 USD |
10:31:12 | Skyrider | Sold in the NL? :p |
10:31:22 | Skyrider | Also noticed the Clip+ is over 150$ on amazon.. |
10:31:26 | Strife89 | Oh, sorry, I missed that |
10:31:32 | Skyrider | I never mentioned it ^^ |
10:34:04 | Skyrider | But this sucks.. Shame companies aren't making normal mp3/4 players that isn't closed.. |
10:34:12 | Skyrider | Give freedome to the users |
10:34:15 | Skyrider | **Freedom |
10:44:48 | Strife89 | I really ought to buy an SSD for ranpuraa |
10:45:11 | Strife89 | I continue to be amazed by it's compile times |
10:45:42 | Strife89 | Even though an old rusty HDD is slightly holding it back. |
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10:50:59 | Strife89 | My Android compile appeared to work without a hitch. However, Sdk/tools/bin/android list target gets some Java-related errors, so runclient.sh refuses to accept it |
10:52:35 | Strife89 | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zKn7ntzn/ |
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11:04:45 | __Bilgus_ | speachy in messing with the voice system did you see any way to tell when an empty string was supplied? |
11:05:34 | __Bilgus_ | I'm trying to put VOICE_BLANK in a menu |
11:05:54 | __Bilgus_ | it crashes anytime I try to do anything with the pointer |
11:07:40 | __Bilgus_ | the strings are all "" except for voice but I guess the voice system doesn't point to \0 |
11:08:52 | __Bilgus_ | so how to detect the invalid pointer NO CLUE, I could look for the ID2P(VOICE_BLANK) but that doesn't really fix the underlying issue |
11:13:44 | Skyrider | speachy: What's limited with the clips? |
11:17:58 | speachy | the new clip sport/jam |
11:18:02 | speachy | highly limited |
11:18:10 | speachy | they have very little RAM |
11:22:08 | speachy | IIRC, VOICE_BLANK is special-cased |
11:22:30 | Skyrider | Little ram is bad? |
11:24:08 | speachy | but there are existing users of VOICE_BLANK |
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12:55:58 | Strife89 | Skyrider: IIRC, they don't have enough RAM to run Rockbox (less than a megabyte?) |
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13:34:56 | Skyrider | Referring to for normal use though. |
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13:56:41 | mendel_munkis | __builtin: can you Commit g#2457 and g#2458? |
13:56:44 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #2457 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/2457 : Add standard cancel to lang by Moshe Piekarski |
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15:07:32 | __builtin | mendel_munkis: sure |
15:07:50 | __builtin | I've got a couple nitpicks to g#2458 but I'll fix those myself |
15:07:52 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #2458 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/2458 : Make md5sum more verbose by Moshe Piekarski |
15:20:03 | __builtin | protip: in the future watch out for trailing/dangling whitespace with an addon like ethan-wspace for emacs |
15:20:26 | __builtin | for example, on line 252 you've got a space at the end |
15:20:48 | __builtin | gerrit will highlight these automatically, but it's up to you to fix them |
15:23:50 | speachy | FWIW I have emacs set to strip all trailing whitespace automatically |
15:26:43 | __builtin | we really ought to have it as a commit hook |
15:26:54 | __builtin | overridable, of course, in the case of imported sources |
15:27:06 | speachy | I can set gerrit up to reject things with trailing whitespace... :) |
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16:13:20 | mendel_munkis | __builtin: nano flags them. usually I remove them but this time I must have missed it. sorry. |
16:13:22 | mendel_munkis | also thanks |
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