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#rockbox log for 2020-08-20

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02:31:14mendel_munkisamdj: percussive maintenance doesn't fix removed EFI entries. (no clue how that happened)
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02:42:30amdjthere are some truly terrible EFI firmwares out there. one vendor (the name escapes me) has an entire product line that won't boot anything unless the entry friendly name (which is ignored, because it doesn't display them in a menu anyway) is "Microsoft Boot Manager".
02:43:17amdj(or "Windows Boot Manager" or whatever the name is given by the Windows installer)
02:43:59mendel_munkiswow. this is usually good it just wiped the hard drive boot entries for some unknown reason (first time in 5 years it's happened on this system)
02:52:54amdjthen there was that time that Samsung laptops permanently bricked themselves and wouldn't boot anything at all if the EFI Boot Manager NVRAM configuration was >50% full.
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04:23:13johnb2__BILGUS: Thinking of the manual - I wasn't sure if MULTIBOOT was documented- I looked at the manual of clip+. It says that you can specify /mybuild/ in the redirect file. I thought you had disabled that. It works for me on some players as I still have the intermediate version of the BL on them. It does definitely NOT work on the e200 (it's complaining about incomplete installation, missing .rockbox directory).
04:24:16johnb2I personally like it a lot since I can use the same SDcard in multiple players.
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07:04:36__BILGUSjohnb it actually depends on the firmware
07:05:27__BILGUSthe multiboot patch on my gerrit handles root redirection but it never got completely finished
07:05:42__BILGUSits still the eventual plan
07:06:05johnb2But as of today, the manual is wrong?
07:06:17__BILGUSand you did check the current 2662 works?
07:06:37johnb2yes, if it is in /
07:06:39__BILGUSsuppose but it will still boot it
07:06:55__BILGUSjust the firmware will get confused
07:07:52johnb2yes, but weird effects for the "cursor line", text being displayed. Probably if I create a /.rockbox manually it is happy.
07:08:14johnb2But might run into issues if I change the player (nvram ?).
07:09:14johnb2I remember the discussions on G#1613
07:09:16fs-bluebotGerrit review #1613 at : Multiboot Firmware Root Redirect - Do Not Push by William Wilgus
07:09:55__BILGUSI think itd boot /rfghhhhgf/boot.sansa but without redirection itd do writes to /.rockbox
07:10:38johnb2Yep, we had seen that in the early experiments.
07:10:43__BILGUSwhich makes it a bit hard to do multiple players off one card
07:11:36__BILGUSI keep hoping sevakis will finish the root redirect stuff
07:11:39johnb2As for your gerrit version of the redirect, I was fine with it ;-) It was working for me.
07:12:23__BILGUStbh I might just put it in Its the version I ran for a year or two with no issue
07:12:53__BILGUSthe redirect stuff is REALLY slick
07:12:53johnb2I would be in favour of this, too.
07:14:19__BILGUSsounds like a plan I'll try to get it done before the next release
07:14:52__BILGUS2662 i'm gonna push here shortly before I leave for the day
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07:16:19johnb2The manual will have the redirect filename automatically, right? I was thinking whether the commit message needs more information, but if the manual has it ...
07:16:40__BILGUSuhhh I think you need to define them
07:16:56__BILGUSbut we can revisit once we see what shows up
07:19:01__BILGUSyeah \opt{clipzip}{\renewcommand*{\redirectext}{clipzip}}
07:19:47__BILGUSso yours whould be something like \opt{e200}{\renewcommand*{\redirectext}{e200}}
07:20:03__BILGUSassuming it uses e200 as the player tag
07:20:14__BILGUS(first one)
07:20:35johnb2probably more like sansae200
07:20:54__BILGUSyeah whatever it uses as the player tag in the manual
07:20:57johnb2I can have a look
07:23:40__BILGUSit looks like there are several other players that now have the possibility of multiboot c200 and some samsungs iriver and vibe500?
07:24:20__BILGUSwonder how many are actually feasible
07:25:31johnb2In order to re-use the large SDcards with my music collection on different player, I would love to see the redirect (some subdir) to work also for hosted devices like Xduoo x3ii.
07:26:29johnb2RB is already loaded from the SD, but only from root.
07:28:12__BILGUSroot redirect would allow that but it'd still need to have multiboot or some other mechanism to define taht
07:28:57__BILGUSbut no reason it has to be done in the bootloader on those
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07:30:03__BILGUSherte soon ill have an x3 hopefully they shar e a similar backend
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07:31:37johnb2We tested enough before, heh? ;-)
07:33:17__BILGUSjust hoping the other players compiled on my other pc I usually run a whole build round on the bigger stuff
07:33:58__BILGUS'on the road this laptop takes as long for a single build
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10:10:01johnb2Bilgus: as for the manual, you were right, it is just that line.
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15:45:15skeeballI just installed Rockbox 3.15 on a Sansa Clip Zip. When I try to connect it to my computer running Linux Debian 10)
15:45:37skeeballit mounts, but the file manager lags and doesn't load anything
15:45:55skeeballRunning 'ls' in bash doesn't load anything and it just times out
15:46:18skeeballBasically, I can't access the file system through USB. I would appreciate some help. Thanks.
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16:01:06speachyskeeball: what's in the kernel logs?
16:01:17skeeball2The kernel logs?
16:01:23speachyof the debian system
16:01:31skeeball2skeeball: I'm not sure how to get those...
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16:02:43skeeball2speachy: One sec, I'm looking through them
16:03:45skeeball2speachy: I see a lot of '[65689.792267] FAT-fs (sdd): Directory bread(block 2151) failed"
16:04:01skeeball2speachy: It repeats for a bunch of different blocks
16:04:03speachyI'd suspect a flaky cable
16:04:31skeeball2speachy: Really? I guess the cable is old and I haven't used it for anything for a long time.
16:05:10speachythe miniusb cable I use craps out if I bump it the wrong way
16:05:10skeeball2Here is what it prints after '[65689.792267] FAT-fs (sdd): Directory bread(block 2151) failed"
16:05:23skeeball2[65698.215271] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdd] ta g#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
16:05:34skeeball2[65698.215272] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdd] ta g#0 Sense Key : Medium Error [current]
16:05:37speachyit fails to read the device so tries to issue resets
16:05:43skeeball2[65698.215274] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdd] ta g#0 Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error
16:05:49skeeball2[65698.215275] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdd] ta g#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 00 08 68 00 00 01 00
16:05:59skeeball2[65698.215276] print_req_error: critical medium error, dev sdd, sector 2152
16:06:06skeeball2Then it just repeats for a different block
16:06:27skeeball2speachy: So you still think probably just a bad cable and not a bigger problem with the device?
16:13:23speachymost likely. AFAIK there are no issues with the clip zip.
16:14:30skeeball2speachy: I got a different cable (that I think works), now dmesg is telling me a I should run fsck
16:14:42skeeball2[66120.002919] sd 7:0:0:0: [sde] Attached SCSI removable disk
16:14:48skeeball2[66120.593563] FAT-fs (sde): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
16:15:12skeeball2Maybe b/c didn't unmount properly when I took it out?
16:16:34skeeball2Working on that now, then I'll see if that helps
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16:44:48skeeball2Having issues with fsck. Rockbox would normally be on a Fat32 partition, right?
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19:29:56__BilgusJohnb can you try your new bootloader with the current head and also the firmware we now have root redirect after the 3rd build round completes
19:39:14speachy__Bilgus, I worry that the "any dir as root" patch might have adverse interactions with the hacks embodied in the hosted target code to achieve much the same thing
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19:41:10__Bilgusi think it all worked before but if there are issues I'll ifdef out the redirect
19:41:29speachyouch, that's a lot of red
19:41:31__Bilgus256 warnings lol
19:42:01speachybroke on simulator and hosted builds. :D
19:42:44__Bilguseww its nasty too at first glance
19:43:02__Bilgusmight have to revert these and do a little more work
19:43:19speachyguess I was more correct than I realized..
19:43:54__Bilgussuppose thats what happens when I let stuff sit for 2 years
19:44:36speachymost of the bootloader warnings can probably be fixed with a single commit. And I think fixing the simulator targets will probably fix nearly all of the hosted issues too.
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19:46:26speachygah, it's worse. :)
19:47:12speachythat's the largest score I've seen in some time. everything failed except for checkwps and manunals. :)
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19:55:15__Bilgusworking on it lol
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20:37:12__Bilgusnope its getting to be too much stuff to fix while head is broken
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21:59:32*__Bilgus sigh
22:02:51speachyhey, it happens. :/
22:03:01speachyjust glad it wasn't me this time...
22:03:58__BilgusI swear I rebase that damn thing an compiled it multiple times
22:05:08__Bilgusits hopelessly broken for the moment it'll need the path functions broken out by application [SIM, NATIVE, HOSTED]
22:05:11speachyacutally.. it might have been a bogus .depend thing
22:05:44speachyI routinely do a 'make dep && make zip' prior to anything I push now
22:06:05__Bilgushmm make dep?
22:08:24speachyI wonder if it might not be worth moving from a monolithic .depend to per-file .depend instead. there are plusses and minuses
22:09:45speachythat or maybe it was the deep state sabotaging your build
22:09:49speachyor bunnies. yes, bunnies.
22:10:43__Bilgusdoubtful more like it was probably before the rocker stuff
22:11:03__Bilgusand I haven't touched it since or if I did its on my home pc
22:11:29__BilgusI vaguely remember doing so but who knows at this point
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