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| 02:31:14 | mendel_munkis | amdj: percussive maintenance doesn't fix removed EFI entries. (no clue how that happened) |
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| 02:42:30 | amdj | there are some truly terrible EFI firmwares out there. one vendor (the name escapes me) has an entire product line that won't boot anything unless the entry friendly name (which is ignored, because it doesn't display them in a menu anyway) is "Microsoft Boot Manager". |
| 02:43:17 | amdj | (or "Windows Boot Manager" or whatever the name is given by the Windows installer) |
| 02:43:59 | mendel_munkis | wow. this is usually good it just wiped the hard drive boot entries for some unknown reason (first time in 5 years it's happened on this system) |
| 02:52:54 | amdj | then there was that time that Samsung laptops permanently bricked themselves and wouldn't boot anything at all if the EFI Boot Manager NVRAM configuration was >50% full. |
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| 04:23:13 | johnb2 | __BILGUS: Thinking of the manual - I wasn't sure if MULTIBOOT was documented- I looked at the manual of clip+. It says that you can specify /mybuild/ in the redirect file. I thought you had disabled that. It works for me on some players as I still have the intermediate version of the BL on them. It does definitely NOT work on the e200 (it's complaining about incomplete installation, missing .rockbox directory). |
| 04:24:16 | johnb2 | I personally like it a lot since I can use the same SDcard in multiple players. |
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| 07:04:36 | __BILGUS | johnb it actually depends on the firmware |
| 07:05:27 | __BILGUS | the multiboot patch on my gerrit handles root redirection but it never got completely finished |
| 07:05:42 | __BILGUS | its still the eventual plan |
| 07:06:05 | johnb2 | But as of today, the manual is wrong? |
| 07:06:17 | __BILGUS | and you did check the current 2662 works? |
| 07:06:37 | johnb2 | yes, if it is in / |
| 07:06:39 | __BILGUS | suppose but it will still boot it |
| 07:06:55 | __BILGUS | just the firmware will get confused |
| 07:07:52 | johnb2 | yes, but weird effects for the "cursor line", text being displayed. Probably if I create a /.rockbox manually it is happy. |
| 07:08:10 | __BILGUS | indeed |
| 07:08:14 | johnb2 | But might run into issues if I change the player (nvram ?). |
| 07:09:14 | johnb2 | I remember the discussions on G#1613 |
| 07:09:16 | fs-bluebot | Gerrit review #1613 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1613 : Multiboot Firmware Root Redirect - Do Not Push by William Wilgus |
| 07:09:55 | __BILGUS | I think itd boot /rfghhhhgf/boot.sansa but without redirection itd do writes to /.rockbox |
| 07:10:38 | johnb2 | Yep, we had seen that in the early experiments. |
| 07:10:43 | __BILGUS | which makes it a bit hard to do multiple players off one card |
| 07:11:36 | __BILGUS | I keep hoping sevakis will finish the root redirect stuff |
| 07:11:39 | johnb2 | As for your gerrit version of the redirect, I was fine with it ;-) It was working for me. |
| 07:12:23 | __BILGUS | tbh I might just put it in Its the version I ran for a year or two with no issue |
| 07:12:53 | __BILGUS | the redirect stuff is REALLY slick |
| 07:12:53 | johnb2 | I would be in favour of this, too. |
| 07:14:19 | __BILGUS | sounds like a plan I'll try to get it done before the next release |
| 07:14:33 | johnb2 | Thanks |
| 07:14:52 | __BILGUS | 2662 i'm gonna push here shortly before I leave for the day |
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| 07:16:19 | johnb2 | The manual will have the redirect filename automatically, right? I was thinking whether the commit message needs more information, but if the manual has it ... |
| 07:16:40 | __BILGUS | uhhh I think you need to define them |
| 07:16:56 | __BILGUS | but we can revisit once we see what shows up |
| 07:17:24 | johnb2 | ok |
| 07:19:01 | __BILGUS | yeah \opt{clipzip}{\renewcommand*{\redirectext}{clipzip}} |
| 07:19:47 | __BILGUS | so yours whould be something like \opt{e200}{\renewcommand*{\redirectext}{e200}} |
| 07:20:03 | __BILGUS | assuming it uses e200 as the player tag |
| 07:20:14 | __BILGUS | (first one) |
| 07:20:35 | johnb2 | probably more like sansae200 |
| 07:20:54 | __BILGUS | yeah whatever it uses as the player tag in the manual |
| 07:20:57 | johnb2 | I can have a look |
| 07:23:40 | __BILGUS | it looks like there are several other players that now have the possibility of multiboot c200 and some samsungs iriver and vibe500? |
| 07:24:20 | __BILGUS | wonder how many are actually feasible |
| 07:25:31 | johnb2 | In order to re-use the large SDcards with my music collection on different player, I would love to see the redirect (some subdir) to work also for hosted devices like Xduoo x3ii. |
| 07:26:29 | johnb2 | RB is already loaded from the SD, but only from root. |
| 07:28:12 | __BILGUS | root redirect would allow that but it'd still need to have multiboot or some other mechanism to define taht |
| 07:28:57 | __BILGUS | but no reason it has to be done in the bootloader on those |
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| 07:30:03 | __BILGUS | herte soon ill have an x3 hopefully they shar e a similar backend |
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| 07:31:01 | __BILGUS | woo |
| 07:31:37 | johnb2 | We tested enough before, heh? ;-) |
| 07:33:17 | __BILGUS | just hoping the other players compiled on my other pc I usually run a whole build round on the bigger stuff |
| 07:33:58 | __BILGUS | 'on the road this laptop takes as long for a single build |
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| 10:10:01 | johnb2 | Bilgus: as for the manual, you were right, it is just that line. |
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| 15:45:15 | skeeball | I just installed Rockbox 3.15 on a Sansa Clip Zip. When I try to connect it to my computer running Linux Debian 10) |
| 15:45:37 | skeeball | it mounts, but the file manager lags and doesn't load anything |
| 15:45:55 | skeeball | Running 'ls' in bash doesn't load anything and it just times out |
| 15:46:18 | skeeball | Basically, I can't access the file system through USB. I would appreciate some help. Thanks. |
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| 16:01:06 | speachy | skeeball: what's in the kernel logs? |
| 16:01:17 | skeeball2 | The kernel logs? |
| 16:01:23 | speachy | of the debian system |
| 16:01:31 | skeeball2 | skeeball: I'm not sure how to get those... |
| 16:01:35 | speachy | 'dmesg' |
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| 16:02:43 | skeeball2 | speachy: One sec, I'm looking through them |
| 16:03:45 | skeeball2 | speachy: I see a lot of '[65689.792267] FAT-fs (sdd): Directory bread(block 2151) failed" |
| 16:04:01 | skeeball2 | speachy: It repeats for a bunch of different blocks |
| 16:04:03 | speachy | I'd suspect a flaky cable |
| 16:04:31 | skeeball2 | speachy: Really? I guess the cable is old and I haven't used it for anything for a long time. |
| 16:05:10 | speachy | the miniusb cable I use craps out if I bump it the wrong way |
| 16:05:10 | skeeball2 | Here is what it prints after '[65689.792267] FAT-fs (sdd): Directory bread(block 2151) failed" |
| 16:05:23 | skeeball2 | [65698.215271] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdd] ta g#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE |
| 16:05:34 | skeeball2 | [65698.215272] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdd] ta g#0 Sense Key : Medium Error [current] |
| 16:05:37 | speachy | it fails to read the device so tries to issue resets |
| 16:05:43 | skeeball2 | [65698.215274] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdd] ta g#0 Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error |
| 16:05:49 | skeeball2 | [65698.215275] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdd] ta g#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 00 00 08 68 00 00 01 00 |
| 16:05:59 | skeeball2 | [65698.215276] print_req_error: critical medium error, dev sdd, sector 2152 |
| 16:06:06 | skeeball2 | Then it just repeats for a different block |
| 16:06:27 | skeeball2 | speachy: So you still think probably just a bad cable and not a bigger problem with the device? |
| 16:13:23 | speachy | most likely. AFAIK there are no issues with the clip zip. |
| 16:14:30 | skeeball2 | speachy: I got a different cable (that I think works), now dmesg is telling me a I should run fsck |
| 16:14:42 | skeeball2 | [66120.002919] sd 7:0:0:0: [sde] Attached SCSI removable disk |
| 16:14:48 | skeeball2 | [66120.593563] FAT-fs (sde): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck. |
| 16:15:12 | skeeball2 | Maybe b/c didn't unmount properly when I took it out? |
| 16:16:34 | skeeball2 | Working on that now, then I'll see if that helps |
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| 16:44:48 | skeeball2 | Having issues with fsck. Rockbox would normally be on a Fat32 partition, right? |
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| 19:29:56 | __Bilgus | Johnb can you try your new bootloader with the current head and also the firmware we now have root redirect after the 3rd build round completes |
| 19:39:14 | speachy | __Bilgus, I worry that the "any dir as root" patch might have adverse interactions with the hacks embodied in the hosted target code to achieve much the same thing |
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| 19:41:10 | __Bilgus | i think it all worked before but if there are issues I'll ifdef out the redirect |
| 19:41:29 | speachy | ouch, that's a lot of red |
| 19:41:31 | __Bilgus | 256 warnings lol |
| 19:42:01 | speachy | broke on simulator and hosted builds. :D |
| 19:42:44 | __Bilgus | eww its nasty too at first glance |
| 19:43:02 | __Bilgus | might have to revert these and do a little more work |
| 19:43:19 | speachy | guess I was more correct than I realized.. |
| 19:43:54 | __Bilgus | suppose thats what happens when I let stuff sit for 2 years |
| 19:44:36 | speachy | most of the bootloader warnings can probably be fixed with a single commit. And I think fixing the simulator targets will probably fix nearly all of the hosted issues too. |
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| 19:46:26 | speachy | gah, it's worse. :) |
| 19:47:12 | speachy | that's the largest score I've seen in some time. everything failed except for checkwps and manunals. :) |
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| 19:55:15 | __Bilgus | working on it lol |
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| 20:37:12 | __Bilgus | nope its getting to be too much stuff to fix while head is broken |
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| 22:02:51 | speachy | hey, it happens. :/ |
| 22:03:01 | speachy | just glad it wasn't me this time... |
| 22:03:58 | __Bilgus | I swear I rebase that damn thing an compiled it multiple times |
| 22:05:08 | __Bilgus | its hopelessly broken for the moment it'll need the path functions broken out by application [SIM, NATIVE, HOSTED] |
| 22:05:11 | speachy | acutally.. it might have been a bogus .depend thing |
| 22:05:44 | speachy | I routinely do a 'make dep && make zip' prior to anything I push now |
| 22:06:05 | __Bilgus | hmm make dep? |
| 22:08:24 | speachy | I wonder if it might not be worth moving from a monolithic .depend to per-file .depend instead. there are plusses and minuses |
| 22:09:45 | speachy | that or maybe it was the deep state sabotaging your build |
| 22:09:49 | speachy | or bunnies. yes, bunnies. |
| 22:10:43 | __Bilgus | doubtful more like it was probably before the rocker stuff |
| 22:11:03 | __Bilgus | and I haven't touched it since or if I did its on my home pc |
| 22:11:29 | __Bilgus | I vaguely remember doing so but who knows at this point |
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