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| 10:58:06 | genevino | ok so i just received my agptek rocker - i can't seem to find out how to put rockbox on it - simply copying the .rockbox folder from the rockbox-agptekrocker.zip to the root of the sd card and powering on the device had no effect so i reckon i have to flash a new bootloader to it, but rockbox utility doesn't even offer any agptek device. any help? |
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| 11:02:18 | speachy | the wiki page includes manual instructions, but you'll need a post-1.4.1 rbutil build. there's a sticky in the forum. |
| 11:08:24 | genevino | speachy: what's a sticky? |
| 11:08:57 | speachy | https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,53588.0.html |
| 11:13:16 | genevino | speachy: ok the windows version keeps telling me that i have to select a mount point. |
| 11:13:32 | speachy | well, when you plug it in, it'll get a drive letter.. |
| 11:13:46 | genevino | well the menu to select the drive is empty... |
| 11:18:23 | genevino | anything else i could try? |
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| 11:27:22 | genevino | and i should probably answer that post on the forum, or? |
| 11:34:12 | speachy | can't really help you there; I've only used Rbutil on linux. |
| 11:34:50 | genevino | speachy: well i have a linux box, too, but i would probably have to compile the version you linked manually if i wanted to try it under linux. |
| 11:34:53 | speachy | oh, one thing came to mind, the SD card is inserted? Can you browse to the Rocker under the Windows Explorer |
| 11:35:00 | genevino | yes |
| 11:35:06 | genevino | and yes :) |
| 11:35:13 | genevino | anyways i could boot into linux and try |
| 11:44:53 | genevino | compiling, let's see |
| 11:45:53 | speachy | BTW you'll need to download the latest Rocker firmware update manually. |
| 11:49:00 | genevino | speachy: this has exactly the same problem - i can't select a device from the dropdown menu because it's completely empty |
| 11:49:33 | speachy | I think we'll ahve to punt to bluebrother about that. I got nothing. |
| 11:50:17 | genevino | when started as root i see a /boot/efi entry in the menu, but that's obviously not what i should flash. |
| 11:50:47 | speachy | so your system's not creating a mount point automatically for it? |
| 11:51:02 | genevino | autodetection fails, too. |
| 11:51:28 | genevino | i have the thing mounted :) |
| 11:51:38 | blbro[m] | You need two things: the filesystem needs to be mounted and FAT |
| 11:52:29 | genevino | i can browse the sd card from a graphical filemanager (thunar) just fine |
| 11:52:38 | blbro[m] | You can go to Help / Troubleshooting / System Info to see the drives on your machine. Does it appear in that list? |
| 11:53:25 | genevino | i don't have help / troubleshooting. |
| 11:53:39 | blbro[m] | And what filesystem type does it show? |
| 11:53:44 | blbro[m] | In Rockbox Utility? |
| 11:54:28 | genevino | i'm not even getting that far, i can't select a device. |
| 11:54:52 | genevino | IF i start it as root, there is a /boot/efi entry in the menu i can select |
| 11:54:53 | blbro[m] | Doesn't matter. Close the configure dialog, look in the menu. |
| 11:56:01 | blbro[m] | Sounds like it's filtered out because of the filesystem type. |
| 11:56:19 | blbro[m] | System Info might be directly below Help. Iirc I moved that some time ago. |
| 11:57:31 | genevino | blbro[m]: https://i.imgur.com/sKbPMAj.png |
| 11:58:09 | blbro[m] | Yep, that's the one |
| 11:58:36 | genevino | VID: c502 PID: 0029, AGPTEK AGPTEK ROCKER |
| 11:58:48 | genevino | that's being shown under "attached usb devices" |
| 11:59:25 | blbro[m] | So it should be able to detect the player. Not necessarily the mountpoint. |
| 11:59:57 | blbro[m] | Does autodetect select the correct player from the list? |
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| 12:00:43 | genevino | Could not detect a device. |
| 12:00:43 | genevino | Select your device and Mountpoint manually. |
| 12:04:06 | blbro[m] | Ok. In System Info in the filesystem table you should see all mounted devices. Is that in there? |
| 12:06:12 | blbro[m] | Hmm. Player detection should work, the usb vid / pid is correct. |
| 12:06:32 | blbro[m] | What version of Rockbox Utility are you using? |
| 12:07:51 | genevino | /mnt/bloeb2 214.51 GiB 238.27 GiB 262144 |
| 12:08:16 | genevino | the version i just compiled from the thing you linked on google drive |
| 12:08:23 | genevino | version 1.4.1 (7c3b9a4049) |
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| 12:11:45 | blbro[m] | Hmm, that should be fine. |
| 12:12:20 | blbro[m] | And /mnt/bloeb2 is the player? |
| 12:12:38 | blbro[m] | Hmm, I thought that would display the filesystem type. |
| 12:15:24 | speachy | ... was that 7c5ba4049? |
| 12:15:50 | speachy | (7c_5_ not 7c_3_) |
| 12:16:56 | blbro[m] | Yeah. Figured that after searching a bit :) |
| 12:17:49 | blbro[m] | Please go to configure, try autodetect, close configure, then go to Help / System Trace and pastebin the contents of that window. |
| 12:19:31 | blbro[m] | It will try to find compatible mountpoint. You can look through it for lines saying "Ignored: / is /dev/sda5 type ext4" (or similar). Is your player among those lines? |
| 12:21:32 | blbro[m] | Btw, pressing Refresh in the config dialog is sufficient. |
| 12:22:37 | blbro[m] | Your player should show up in the log with something like "Added: /media/ipod is /dev/sdb2 type vfat" |
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| 12:32:19 | genevino | blbro[m]: well the thing about the filesystem could actually well be, since this gets mounted using fuse and says something about exfat. |
| 12:32:34 | genevino | blbro[m]: so do you think i could try to re-format the sd card with fvat? |
| 12:32:45 | genevino | blbro[m]: or "should" i try that? |
| 12:32:56 | speachy | yes, you'll need vfat. |
| 12:34:46 | blbro[m] | Rockbox does not support exfat. Rockbox Utility only shows compatible mountpoints, so exfat doesn't show up. That's intentional (especially on Linux the list could be very long otherwise) |
| 12:35:36 | blbro[m] | So not should or could, you have to :) |
| 12:35:58 | genevino | aha, gotcha. :) |
| 12:36:17 | genevino | just used mkfs.vfat and fatlabel now, let's see ;) |
| 12:39:03 | genevino | aaaaaaaha, and i'm getting further, tada! "Bootloader installation requires you to provide the correct verrsion of the original firmware file." |
| 12:40:09 | genevino | ok so what do i need here? |
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| 12:41:03 | genevino | ah! |
| 12:41:26 | genevino | "Could not find firmware in archive, Error reading firmware file" |
| 12:41:27 | genevino | hmm |
| 12:42:06 | speachy | I _think_ it's this one: http://images.agptek.us/Download/AGPTEK_ROCKER(20171101).rar |
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| 12:42:43 | speachy | you'll need to extract the .upt file out of that archive. |
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| 12:45:41 | genevino | wow that did it |
| 12:45:57 | genevino | ok so how to boot into rockbox now? when switching the thing on i get no bootloader prompting. |
| 12:46:18 | speachy | https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AgptekRocker |
| 12:46:51 | speachy | the instructions obviously need more detail, but: "go into the settings menu and select firmware update." |
| 12:51:06 | genevino | ah that did something, but now i'm stuck at "Insert TF Pls" even though the sd card is in |
| 12:58:18 | speachy | huh, that's odd. |
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| 13:06:34 | genevino | hm. :( |
| 13:07:02 | speachy | I'd check to see if the card is sane still. reformat it if necessary. |
| 13:10:42 | genevino | would you recommend making the whole device one file system or partitioning it before i do? |
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| 13:13:28 | speachy | partitioning it properly. I don't know offhand how the stock firmware handles full-disk filesystems. |
| 13:13:50 | genevino | ok |
| 13:13:55 | speachy | wait, you don't get anything in the stock fw? just the insert card prompt? |
| 13:14:02 | genevino | yup |
| 13:15:14 | speachy | ... that sounds like something went wrong with the FW flash. |
| 13:15:43 | speachy | ... reformat, put the update.upt file on the SD card, see if it recovers. |
| 13:16:40 | speachy | just booted mine up; it worked just fine (and it's what I used to get the rbutil stuff going; so what it's running was loaded into it via rbutil) |
| 13:18:27 | speachy | without a card inserted, I mean |
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| 15:40:41 | genevino | wow i'm actually making progress |
| 15:40:52 | genevino | but heck the docs could be better yes |
| 15:43:23 | genevino | anyways, i now got rockbox running on my agptek rocker it seems |
| 15:43:42 | speachy | oh good. what went wrong? |
| 15:43:48 | genevino | i have no idea |
| 15:43:57 | genevino | but i managed to get it to work it seems |
| 15:44:43 | braewoods | i've seen devices that needed power cycles to boot properly. |
| 15:44:58 | braewoods | one notebook i had would only successfully boot from USB on first boot. it failed on reboots. |
| 15:45:03 | braewoods | so you had to power off properly. |
| 15:45:06 | braewoods | first |
| 15:45:34 | braewoods | on reboots they just wouldn't be detected or somethig |
| 15:45:46 | braewoods | so you had to shutdown first |
| 15:48:11 | genevino | it also seems like it does SOMETIMES drop me in the bootloader, but i can't determine when so |
| 15:50:25 | genevino | oh it plays music |
| 15:54:24 | braewoods | genevino: lol... why is that a surprise? |
| 15:55:45 | genevino | oh, trying to play doom hangs it up :) |
| 15:55:59 | genevino | braewoods: after 2 hours of tinkering that IS a surprise |
| 15:59:45 | genevino | braewoods: and a welcome one, too :D |
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| 16:02:35 | genevino | wow it's like suddenly the whole device is usable |
| 16:15:32 | genevino | ok looks like the cable i had wasn't exactly reliable, replaced it and it seems better |
| 16:15:42 | speachy | that would definitely cause issues. |
| 16:16:11 | genevino | well the rocker device with rockbox is fantastic |
| 16:16:11 | speachy | in the case of the rocker, we're running as a simple application on top of the stock firmware's OS image. |
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| 16:16:27 | genevino | impressive |
| 16:16:39 | speachy | and we have zero ability to fix quirks with the low-level platform. :/ |
| 16:16:44 | genevino | :( |
| 16:17:03 | speachy | It's the unfortunate norm. |
| 16:17:22 | genevino | what i would actually love to use with rockbox: my surfang f20 |
| 16:17:28 | genevino | that would be quite awesome |
| 16:17:43 | speachy | surfans/irulu f20? |
| 16:18:04 | genevino | and considering the firmware update files are simple iso9660 iso files, i could well think they're somewhat hackable. ah yes, surfans, not surfang. |
| 16:18:44 | speachy | it's built on the same underlying software platform as the rocker, so it won't be difficult to port. |
| 16:18:53 | speachy | just hardware and time.. |
| 16:21:19 | genevino | speachy: well i'd be interested in learning a bit more about this, i guess my understanding is still a bit n00bish |
| 16:21:40 | genevino | speachy: aside from that, are you planning to buy one? |
| 16:24:24 | speachy | I guess I could use some of the RB slush fund to buy one. |
| 16:24:47 | genevino | do you have a paypal i could donate some bucks to? |
| 16:24:56 | speachy | it's on the main rockbox page |
| 16:26:29 | speachy | also the hifiwalker h2 looks to be the same hardware with a slightly different case. |
| 16:26:58 | genevino | Thanks for donating 10,00 USD to |
| 16:26:59 | genevino | slp@peachyphotos.com |
| 16:26:59 | genevino | Transaction ID: 6JK5449431684961T |
| 16:27:06 | genevino | it's not much, but hey |
| 16:28:03 | speachy | every bit helps, thank you. |
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| 16:34:31 | genevino | speachy: the h2 *does* seem like exactly the same device but a bit more beautiful |
| 16:34:46 | speachy | looks more pocket-friendly. |
| 16:34:57 | genevino | yea the f20 is edgy |
| 16:35:02 | speachy | does the f20 have a glass back? |
| 16:35:20 | genevino | no. a lot of product descriptions say so, but it's indeed just cheap plastic. |
| 16:35:39 | genevino | that's definitely not glass. :) |
| 16:35:41 | speachy | that's a good thing. the h2 looks like glass, which is less durable |
| 16:36:24 | genevino | i can't for the life of me think that this could be glass. |
| 16:36:40 | speachy | (if not glass, then _very_ shiny plastic) |
| 16:36:51 | genevino | there's one benefit i see on the surfans tho: usb-c. |
| 16:37:05 | speachy | the rocker has a glass back. or in my case, a multi-piece glass back. |
| 16:37:07 | genevino | yes that *IS* very shiny plastic, on the rocker, toot, btw. |
| 16:37:28 | genevino | i doubt that is glass on the rocker. |
| 16:37:54 | genevino | are you sure that's not just a cheap plastic cover? :) |
| 16:37:58 | speachy | it's glass. |
| 16:38:04 | genevino | ok :) |
| 16:38:17 | speachy | as I said, I know because I broke mine by sitting on it. |
| 16:38:32 | genevino | ah yeah you mentioned this the other day. |
| 16:41:42 | speachy | yeah, the h2 and f20 are the same hardware. |
| 16:48:59 | speachy | both are variations of the Aigo Eros Q. |
| 16:49:57 | genevino | speachy: both the eros and the h2 look better than the one i have actually :) |
| 16:49:58 | speachy | the H2 is an eros Q, the F20 is an eros K |
| 16:50:12 | genevino | interesting |
| 16:50:13 | speachy | there's a Q and Qii |
| 16:50:14 | genevino | yea |
| 16:50:28 | genevino | yea the eros k looks exactly like mine |
| 16:50:49 | genevino | and yea that's the thing i would love to run rockbox on :) |
| 16:51:19 | genevino | (that being said, the rocker is perfectly fine already) |
| 16:51:27 | speachy | the qii looks like it uses a different sw architecture. |
| 16:51:49 | genevino | yup |
| 16:52:01 | speachy | might be the same hardare though. |
| 16:52:15 | genevino | looks so |
| 16:52:23 | speachy | it's the same case at least. |
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| 17:55:25 | genevino | ok i have no idea if there even is a way to let the next/prev keys honour the shuffle mode |
| 17:55:41 | genevino | e.g. i just want it to shuffle ALL songs no matter what sub-directory they're in |
| 17:56:23 | genevino | i know i can press short-long to skip to the next folder, but in a shuffle mode i'd assume it would just shuffle like, ALL the things, including jumping to other directories |
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| 18:19:33 | genevino | and twimc: |
| 18:19:35 | genevino | DB Error: attempt to write a readonly database (8) |
| 18:19:35 | genevino | SQL: UPDATE themes SET downloadcnt=downloadcnt+1 WHERE themeid=:id Array ( [:id] => 2820 ) |
| 18:19:44 | genevino | when trying to access https://themes.rockbox.org/download.php?themeid=2820 |
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| 18:34:42 | speachy | ....huh. |
| 18:35:55 | speachy | genevino: I can't do anything about that now. |
| 18:36:40 | speachy | it should work now. don't know why it got wedged. or for how long. |
| 18:36:52 | speachy | probably a crawler storm. |
| 18:41:45 | speachy | looks like it wedged at 14:55 local time. so.. jsut shy of 4 hours ago. |
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| 19:22:08 | genevino | speachy: whatever you did, it fixed it, yes. :) |
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