| 00:03:44 | speachy | Stanley00: what's crashing, exactly? The x1000e is supposed to be a mips32r2 core, and none of the other x1000 targets seem to crash with it. |
| 00:04:14 | Stanley00 | really, it's got SIGKILL, cannot run on my m5 |
| 00:04:24 | speachy | or is the m5 not an x1000? |
| 00:04:30 | Stanley00 | but when I replace it with just mips32, it work fine |
| 00:04:41 | Stanley00 | m5 is also x1000e as in spec |
| 00:04:42 | speachy | "it" meaning the rb binary? |
| 00:04:47 | Stanley00 | yup |
| 00:05:08 | Stanley00 | let me check a gain, I did some modified recently, I might have mess it up |
| 00:05:10 | Stanley00 | one sec |
| 00:07:28 | speachy | I mean, it's certainly possible fiio did something really funky with the m5 |
| 00:07:42 | _bilgus__ | Stanley nuke your staging dirs |
| 00:08:28 | speachy | efqw: incidently, mainline just gained X2000-series support |
| 00:08:58 | speachy | or rather, it's about to. |
| 00:09:48 | speachy | the rest of the ingenic code got reorged too, unified with the generic mips code |
| 00:11:15 | speachy | efqw: I swear, the more you dig into the m3k the more I want to nuke it from orbit. trying to "fix" anything in that hacky mess seems like a complete waste of effort. |
| 00:11:24 | Stanley00 | nvm, it's my bad with the config |
| 00:11:31 | Stanley00 | mips32r2 work fined |
| 00:11:40 | Stanley00 | *well |
| 00:12:31 | efqw | Our current roadblocks for mainline support on the x1000 are: SFC, SLCD, The I2S stuff, and the PMU (AXP192). |
| 00:12:52 | efqw | Yeah, it's like an onion, the more you peel it the harder you cry. |
| 00:13:27 | efqw | This is by far the hackiest device I've ever seen. |
| 00:14:23 | speachy | efqw: as far as shutting down is concerned, I really don't like the idea of issuing that ioctl from within rockbox; I assume it would effectively kill the sytem as-is, with things mounted and stuff possibly not flushed to disk properly |
| 00:14:37 | efqw | bingo |
| 00:14:45 | efqw | This is exactly what it does. |
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| 00:21:09 | speachy | I doubt the i2s would be more than a tweak of the existing 4770 driver. ditto the axp192 (vs the other axp series) |
| 00:21:42 | speachy | anyway. |
| 00:23:33 | speachy | _bilgus__: no change in thumb settings was part of this. I think by default thumb is not used unless necessary for the processor. |
| 00:24:18 | speachy | I don't know if GCC is smart enough to automatically choose thumb or not on a per-function basis |
| 00:25:11 | speachy | it makes code smaller, and usually (slightly) slower |
| 00:25:21 | _bilgus__ | there are some pragmas IIRC |
| 00:25:43 | _bilgus__ | but automagic NTIKO |
| 00:25:52 | _bilgus__ | ^coined? |
| 00:26:36 | _bilgus__ | some slightly faster its prob a wash |
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| 00:27:16 | _bilgus__ | I wasn't suggesting enabling it any further than we already did I was just mentioning it as one of the hidden settings |
| 00:27:44 | speachy | I think the way it's implemented (via that python wrapper) is seriously janky |
| 00:27:50 | _bilgus__ | amognst others that aren forthcoming from my head |
| 00:28:19 | _bilgus__ | dude that whole system is janky wait till you see my lua wrappers :p |
| 00:28:46 | speachy | I mean, if we want thumb, why not just turn on -mthumb -mthumb-interwork in the global CFLAGS and be done with it? :) |
| 00:29:34 | speachy | well, it will automatically retry compiling that specific file without -mthumb if it fails with it. |
| 00:30:40 | speachy | probably worth a try to see how bad the fallout is. |
| 00:30:56 | _bilgus__ | yeah no clue I try to stay away from the dark places until I really have to |
| 00:31:27 | * | speachy looks at the lcd rewrite _bilgus__ is cooking and seriously questions his last statement |
| 00:31:28 | _bilgus__ | like the codecs folder |
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| 00:31:43 | _bilgus__ | yeah lol but thats irked me for like 4 years |
| 00:31:55 | speachy | I intend to kick the codec folder anthill next |
| 00:32:03 | * | _bilgus__ shudders |
| 00:32:47 | speachy | anywhere overriding our warning flags is automatically suspect |
| 00:32:53 | _bilgus__ | I get about half way into the hand optimized assembler and then start questioning if its worth it |
| 00:33:34 | speachy | well, it's either that or finish hacking FP awareness into our threading/scheduler. :D |
| 00:34:40 | speachy | which reminds me, I also need to revisit our threading on hosted and SDL. |
| 00:35:16 | speachy | and on that note. I"m done for today. |
| 00:35:45 | speachy | if you don't mind, please give the latest rocker bootloader a whirl (installable via rbutil, or a pre-patched one is on d.r.o too) |
| 00:36:12 | _bilgus__ | same link as earlier? |
| 00:39:21 | speachy | yeah. crap. forgot to update the checksum file. |
| 00:39:26 | speachy | don't think rbutil cares though |
| 00:40:00 | speachy | in hwinfo debug it'll report the BL build now too |
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| 05:44:28 | johnb3 | speachy after updating BL and RB to the latest versions, I just tried OTG on the X3ii. Pretty cool! |
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| 06:55:16 | lebellium | speachy: thanks for the theme page |
| 06:55:23 | lebellium | YP-R0 sd card: /dev/sdd1 |
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| 07:00:39 | lebellium | well, I have a different result with OF and Safe Mode |
| 07:02:17 | lebellium | with Safe Mode: /dev/sdb = user internal memory (where .rockbox is); /dev/sdc: hidden internal memory; /dev/sdd1: SD card |
| 07:02:48 | lebellium | with OF: /dev/sdb = internal memory; /dev/sdc1: SD card |
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| 08:15:06 | Stanley00 | speachy: I finally make it, Stanley00/6d9b121ccfca7b8f70a75991d0264b31">https://gist.github.com/Stanley00/6d9b121ccfca7b8f70a75991d0264b31 |
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| 08:17:58 | Stanley00 | basic playback and some plugins/games work, didn't test them all |
| 08:18:10 | Stanley00 | bootloader also works |
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| 08:34:42 | lebellium | rasher: would it be possible to update the Simulator builds for Windows? rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/ |
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| 09:14:04 | speachy | lebellium: I meant from within the device itself |
| 09:14:34 | lebellium | speachy: but you removed the system files browser :) |
| 09:15:10 | lebellium | I have to revert back to an older build then |
| 09:15:13 | speachy | and the sim builds... they potentially change every commit. we rebuild them all on the farm, but only linux. |
| 09:15:58 | speachy | we don't even keep the binaries, just make sure they build. |
| 09:26:19 | lebellium | under \dev I have gadget, pts, shm, snd and v41 |
| 09:26:43 | lebellium | otherwise I have mnt\media0, media1 and mmc but I already told you that |
| 09:28:11 | speachy | Stanley00: so the m5 appears to be more akin to the hiby players |
| 09:28:40 | speachy | lebellium: there's no block devices under /dev? that's odd |
| 09:28:45 | Stanley00 | yeah, kind of missing between m3k and hiby |
| 09:30:04 | speachy | Stanley00: you can probaby use usb-hiby.c directly instead of patching fiio-usb.c |
| 09:30:25 | lebellium | speachy: well, I just changed the file browser settings to display hidden files. I have dev\mmcblk0, mmcblk0p1, mmcblk1, mmcblk1p1 |
| 09:30:29 | Stanley00 | thanks, let me check that |
| 09:30:58 | speachy | ditto on the bootloader; should be able to add a few #ifdefs to rocker_linux.c |
| 09:32:08 | speachy | lebellium, two mmc devices, huh. I wonder if blk0 is the internal storage? |
| 09:32:29 | lebellium | how can I tell? |
| 09:32:30 | speachy | do you have the ability to get a shell on it? |
| 09:32:40 | lebellium | I don't know what a shell is :) |
| 09:32:46 | speachy | eject the sd card and see if any of those go away |
| 09:33:34 | lebellium | I still see the same files after ejecting the sd |
| 09:33:43 | lebellium | I'll reboot the device to be sure |
| 09:34:25 | lebellium | I confirm, still the same files |
| 09:35:25 | Stanley00 | speachy: oh, I see, so we just prefer to reuse the file with #ifdef instead of seperated for each platform then? |
| 09:35:39 | speachy | Stanley00: when the only code change is a few #defines, absolutely |
| 09:35:55 | speachy | these things are basically all built on the same "platform" |
| 09:36:26 | Stanley00 | agree, I just didn't how much should I change back then, let me try another patch then |
| 09:38:10 | speachy | lebellium: another place to look is /sys/block/ |
| 09:39:42 | lebellium | sys/block/mmcblk0 when the card is inserted. no file when ejected |
| 09:39:56 | speachy | awesome, thank you. |
| 09:40:12 | speachy | any chance you could do the same on the sony? |
| 09:40:31 | lebellium | will also have to revert back to an older build, thank you :) |
| 09:40:42 | speachy | sorry about that.. |
| 09:41:09 | speachy | if I had one of thee things in front of me I'd be able to do it myself |
| 09:42:53 | lebellium | sdcard is mmcblk1 |
| 09:43:22 | lebellium | there is also mmcblk0 which stays here whatever sd card inserted or ejected. |
| 09:43:32 | speachy | excellent. |
| 09:46:23 | speachy | so under /storage, do you already see the contents of everything, or just internal stuff? |
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| 09:46:36 | speachy | or are there subdirs under there? |
| 09:48:07 | lebellium | should I have a storage folder? |
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| 09:50:15 | lebellium | at root? or where exactly? I can't see it |
| 09:50:31 | speachy | sorry, /contents |
| 09:51:09 | speachy | _supposedly_ .rockbox exists directly under /contents |
| 09:51:18 | lebellium | contents is only internal memory. Alternatively, allcontents\int and ext |
| 09:51:34 | lebellium | yes .rockbox is under contents |
| 09:51:41 | speachy | and /mnt/mmc is the sd? |
| 09:52:06 | lebellium | no, mnt/media |
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| 10:00:29 | speachy | ok. I need to write some more glue code for the nwz platform to enable hotswap but at least I have the paths correct now. :) |
| 10:02:29 | lebellium | is it easy to compile a Simulator for Windows from my Linux VM ? |
| 10:08:59 | speachy | http://www.shaftnet.org/~pizza/rb-a10.zip |
| 10:09:46 | speachy | if it actually works, you'll see <microSD> in the top-level file listing when the card is inserted, and it will let you browse to it. |
| 10:15:16 | lebellium | I see <microSD1> |
| 10:15:27 | speachy | and does it work? |
| 10:15:44 | lebellium | yes |
| 10:15:56 | speachy | sweet, got it right. |
| 10:16:13 | speachy | _hopefully_ the other sony targets place things in the same place |
| 10:16:38 | lebellium | Only the A10 and A20 have a microSD slot |
| 10:16:50 | lebellium | and the A20 is very close to the A10 |
| 10:18:14 | lebellium | I just checked my E580, it's also in contents |
| 10:18:30 | speachy | so none of the E series has an SD slot. |
| 10:18:35 | lebellium | nope |
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| 10:20:06 | speachy | okay, the sd jiggery is now limited to the two A models |
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| 10:34:33 | johnb3 | I am trying to move from virtualbox to WSL. I am trying to build the toolchain for mips. rockboxdev.sh complains about missing mpfr. How do I install this in Ubuntu 20.4? |
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| 10:38:14 | Stanley00 | johnb3: I think simply run apt install libmpfr-dev should help |
| 10:38:38 | Stanley00 | apply the same for remain required libs for gcc |
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| 10:41:23 | Tighe | Is their any development on iPod Nano 3rd Gen? |
| 10:41:43 | johnb3 | thanks that worked. I compiled for arm before, so gcc should be already done. |
| 10:43:07 | johnb3 | nope, it is building it again ... :-( |
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| 11:06:33 | _bilgus__ | see ya in 6 hrs :P |
| 11:07:42 | johnb3 | actually I am done already. I have the arm and mips tool chain. Building the x3ii (bin) was less than a minute. |
| 11:12:21 | johnb3 | So apparently it was reusing stuff. |
| 11:15:13 | speachy | hmm. need player pics for the erosq/k still |
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| 12:00:54 | _bilgus__ | Well down to one? last issue with the fb rewrite and its in the greylib didn't change anything there and I can't seem to find where it does the final copy to the framebuffer buttttt I will eventually figure it out |
| 12:05:37 | braewoods | _bilgus__: let me know if you need more testing. |
| 12:05:57 | braewoods | i ordered some H320s from ebay to do some testing of the sister port |
| 12:06:32 | braewoods | given the realities we deal with on these i think i will end up extending the iriver_flash port to cover the H300 series as well |
| 12:06:45 | braewoods | in theory they should work since they are similar enough |
| 12:07:37 | _bilgus__ | braewoods, hopefully soon but I'll try to get all the known bugs worked out first |
| 12:08:04 | braewoods | basically i intend to finish what the previous developer started |
| 12:08:12 | braewoods | to the extent that is realistic |
| 12:08:20 | braewoods | but first i need to see what of the old notes is still relevant |
| 12:08:31 | braewoods | it's been over 10 years. some of them may no longer apply. |
| 12:10:01 | _bilgus__ | I think our 4.0 release is gonna be exciting with all these 'New' players! |
| 12:10:11 | braewoods | is that the next release? |
| 12:10:15 | braewoods | or is 3.16 the next one? |
| 12:10:30 | _bilgus__ | yeah we ditch the HWcodecs next release is 4.0 |
| 12:12:29 | _bilgus__ | when I say we I mean speachy lol |
| 12:14:17 | braewoods | what releases still used them? |
| 12:14:28 | _bilgus__ | 3.15 |
| 12:14:32 | braewoods | i mean |
| 12:14:34 | braewoods | what targets |
| 12:14:54 | _bilgus__ | ah archos and something else |
| 12:15:02 | braewoods | archos is retired |
| 12:15:12 | _bilgus__ | yes after 3.15 |
| 12:15:32 | braewoods | i guess it was retired due to it being to UPed for software |
| 12:15:50 | braewoods | but software decoding is far more flexible |
| 12:15:53 | braewoods | and portable |
| 12:16:28 | _bilgus__ | our main issue was that they are rare and it had a ton of conditional code |
| 12:16:36 | braewoods | i see. |
| 12:17:02 | braewoods | as in so rare they only show up on ebay once in a blue moon? |
| 12:17:50 | _bilgus__ | as in there is one person with an archos we have seen in two? years |
| 12:18:06 | braewoods | ah. |
| 12:18:12 | braewoods | wow. |
| 12:18:22 | braewoods | these things were clunky |
| 12:18:24 | braewoods | giant |
| 12:18:32 | braewoods | make my iriver h120 look small |
| 12:18:36 | _bilgus__ | and she stated she didn't upgrade because the bootloader stopped fitting many releases ago |
| 12:18:54 | braewoods | ah so rockbox had outgrown it |
| 12:19:05 | _bilgus__ | pretty sure it was the first target |
| 12:20:52 | braewoods | interesting |
| 12:21:06 | braewoods | the current h300 / h120 / h100 bootloaders use about 58k |
| 12:21:10 | braewoods | only about 7k to spare |
| 12:21:46 | _bilgus__ | you should see the effort I had to go through to get multiboot into the sansas |
| 12:22:02 | braewoods | how much space did you have to work with? |
| 12:22:16 | braewoods | in the case of rockbox it has about 64k for these to work with |
| 12:22:25 | _bilgus__ | it was down to 100 bytes left when I got done |
| 12:22:31 | braewoods | and the total space? |
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| 12:22:38 | braewoods | available |
| 12:22:42 | braewoods | for the bootloader |
| 12:22:52 | _bilgus__ | I wanna say under 10mb we compress the OF and piggyback |
| 12:23:01 | braewoods | I se. |
| 12:23:04 | braewoods | see |
| 12:23:41 | braewoods | the iriver coldfire targets seem unique in that they store their bootloader in literal ROM |
| 12:23:55 | braewoods | so you can literally replace the OF |
| 12:24:13 | _bilgus__ | In theory you could alway add another layer of bootstrap |
| 12:24:46 | braewoods | there's not much value in the OF on these if you want to upgrade them since flash based storage is the main option today |
| 12:25:03 | braewoods | and they don't work with flash based storage |
| 12:25:06 | braewoods | for whatever reason |
| 12:25:10 | braewoods | rockbox does just fine |
| 12:25:54 | _bilgus__ | the great thing about OSS |
| 12:25:56 | braewoods | but while i'm working on the H300 bootloader i plan to stick to the original HDD |
| 12:26:08 | braewoods | since i may need to boot the OF |
| 12:26:22 | braewoods | plus, testing. |
| 12:28:57 | braewoods | though i can't say i think the H300 bootloader needs much more |
| 12:29:14 | braewoods | mostly just feature parity and a few odds and ends... if space allows |
| 12:35:41 | braewoods | interesting |
| 12:35:52 | braewoods | checking the FW patching routines.. |
| 12:36:18 | braewoods | it appears that the H100 and H300 firmwares use different offsets for the bootloader |
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| 12:42:23 | braewoods | interesting... |
| 12:42:40 | braewoods | the BL entry point is listed differently in the H300... |
| 12:42:44 | braewoods | something is fishy here |
| 12:43:06 | braewoods | i'll need to read the ROM from within rockbox and see where the bootloader is actually stored |
| 12:43:10 | braewoods | make sure the assumptions are sane |
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| 13:19:38 | bluebrother^ | yay. Finally got rbutil to build on macox 10.15. |
| 13:20:31 | braewoods | bluebrother^: i may need your assistance when i'm ready to publish new bootloaders for the main iriver ports |
| 13:20:38 | braewoods | so they can be available in rbutil |
| 13:21:05 | bluebrother^ | ok |
| 13:21:30 | braewoods | i'm planning some new features if they don't make the bootloaders too big |
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| 13:21:49 | braewoods | mostly to bring it to feature parity with the H100/H120 bootloaders |
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| 13:22:08 | braewoods | they can boot RB from flash but the H300 bootloader doesn't yet support it though it should be able to |
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| 13:22:52 | braewoods | going to need to do some research to see how i can extend iriver_flash to support updating the bootloader from within rockbox |
| 13:23:08 | braewoods | but for now i wait for the units I ordered to arrive |
| 13:26:06 | speachy | I could use some help getting manuals written (with keymaps) for these new targets |
| 13:26:41 | speachy | because there's really no reason for them not to be considered "stable" |
| 13:31:19 | bluebrother^ | speachy: anything specific? |
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| 13:32:10 | speachy | installation instructions are probably cut-n-pasteable, but mostly a matter of screenshots where relevant and filling in the keymaps. |
| 13:32:58 | speachy | AGPTek Rocker, xDuoo X3ii/X20, eros Q/K (and their clones) |
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| 13:33:14 | bluebrother^ | do they have the same screen size? |
| 13:33:58 | johnb3 | xduoo are portrait, eros landscape |
| 13:34:18 | johnb3 | 320x240 or so |
| 13:34:20 | speachy | 128x160 (I think) 240x320, and 320x240. So the latter set should be okay, not sure about the first |
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| 13:35:07 | speachy | still haven't finished generating screenshots for the X3 yet. |
| 13:35:14 | speachy | (or its keymaps) |
| 13:35:49 | johnb3 | screenshots are done with the setting in debug + usb connect, right? |
| 13:35:59 | speachy | I found it easier to do them in the simulator :) |
| 13:36:38 | speachy | but for the manual, we only need to regen the screenshots once for a given screen size/depth |
| 13:36:42 | johnb3 | ;-) Do we have simulator build for all of them? |
| 13:37:04 | speachy | unless there's there's something unique about a particular sceenshot |
| 13:37:35 | speachy | the eroses dont' have sim builds yet, mainly because I don't have playerpics yet |
| 13:38:18 | speachy | I suppose fixing (or disabling) some of the wonky plugins would be a good idea too |
| 13:38:36 | speachy | eg quake and duke3d supposedly goes kabloeey. most likely RAM limitation |
| 13:39:11 | bluebrother^ | nice. Now github builds Rockbox Utiltiy for Linux and macOS :) |
| 13:40:05 | speachy | bluebrother^: are those linked off hte wiki / download / etc pages? |
| 13:40:48 | bluebrother^ | speachy: no. Right now it's a branch on my mirror of Rockbox that's used, and I only do build them so far, not even archive. |
| 13:40:49 | johnb3 | speachy Is building the simulator straight forward (just the choice during make)? |
| 13:41:00 | bluebrother^ | main issue was to get it compile on a recent macOS. |
| 13:41:48 | bluebrother^ | next would be to have it build a Windows binary too. |
| 13:41:56 | johnb3 | Also, where can I check for naming conventions (samples) for screenshots? |
| 13:42:39 | johnb3 | where in the git repo ... |
| 13:42:51 | bluebrother^ | johnb3: naming is ss-[name]-[resolution]{-player}.png |
| 13:43:00 | bluebrother^ | manual/*/images |
| 13:43:50 | lebellium | speachy: I tried to play rockboy Mario Tennis on the Agptek H3 yesterday but the scrolling wheel is a pain |
| 13:44:00 | lebellium | I need a better target for that purpose :D |
| 13:44:56 | bluebrother^ | the {-player} is optional and only used if you have an existing screenshot for that resolution but need a different one for a specific player. |
| 13:46:00 | bluebrother^ | so mostly for the clips with their different color at the top |
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| 13:52:38 | johnb3 | As the 240x320 is already available for the x3ii, it is mainly about rockbox_interface/images/ ? |
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| 14:03:25 | speachy | johnb3, it's really a matter of adding keymaps |
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| 16:10:02 | braewoods | lebellium: you said you own irivers from the H100 and H300 series? do you own any remotes? if so, which types? i've been trying to research the remotes and all i could find is the H100 series remote which is also H300 compatible. |
| 16:10:29 | braewoods | lebellium: but apparently there's also 2 kinds of H300 remotes but i have no idea what they look like. |
| 16:10:50 | braewoods | it appears to be one of the missing features but if i can't find any there's no way to support them |
| 16:11:31 | braewoods | plus support might be impossible anyway since the few notes i find suggest they found no way to detect the remote differences |
| 16:13:18 | braewoods | huh. ok. |
| 16:13:32 | braewoods | found the non-lcd remote in the manual |
| 16:20:06 | lebellium | I have the lcd remote which works for both H100 and H300. There is also a non-lcd remote for H10 |
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| 16:22:35 | lebellium | I'm not sure whether the non-LCD H10 remote also works with H100 and H300 |
| 16:22:47 | lebellium | I would say probably yes |
| 16:25:13 | lebellium | the non-LCD remote in the H300 user manuals looks exactly like the H10 remote |
| 16:26:28 | lebellium | https://www.adverts.ie/ipod-mp3/iriver-h300-series-remote/200540 |
| 16:27:02 | lebellium | -> this is probably the true LCD remote for H300 that no-one has |
| 16:27:19 | lebellium | The H100 remote is far more common |
| 16:27:45 | braewoods | so not much point in trying to support hardware that is that rare |
| 16:28:06 | braewoods | plus, what does it do that the H100 remote doesn't? |
| 16:28:51 | lebellium | oh ! https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/KeymapIriverHSeries |
| 16:28:59 | lebellium | Didn't even know we had such a great wiki page |
| 16:30:11 | braewoods | good to know |
| 16:30:18 | braewoods | but both h300 remotes that i can tell are super rare |
| 16:30:28 | braewoods | only seen them bundled with h300 units |
| 16:30:30 | braewoods | if at all |
| 16:30:41 | braewoods | at least at this point in time |
| 16:31:25 | lebellium | I think most H300 were sold without it |
| 16:31:38 | braewoods | yea |
| 16:31:42 | lebellium | It was probably a pricer bundle only sold in some regions |
| 16:31:55 | braewoods | and i'm not seeing anything unique to it |
| 16:32:08 | braewoods | they both have the same basic type of screen |
| 16:32:28 | lebellium | well, the design better suits the H300 case compared to the H100 remote. I would definitely buy it if I can find it one day :D |
| 16:33:37 | braewoods | lebellium: you own an iriver h10? |
| 16:33:42 | lebellium | yes |
| 16:33:46 | braewoods | the 20GB? |
| 16:34:01 | lebellium | yes |
| 16:34:24 | lebellium | but the HDD and battery are dying |
| 16:34:32 | braewoods | you can replace those thankfully |
| 16:35:14 | braewoods | the cradle seems to be rather rare |
| 16:36:29 | braewoods | lebellium: what does the remote look like? |
| 16:37:03 | lebellium | https://ireland.apollo.olxcdn.com/v1/files/7f9whq8liza53-PL/image;s=1000x700 |
| 16:37:08 | lebellium | I don't have it |
| 16:37:18 | braewoods | ah |
| 16:37:41 | lebellium | but as I said, it looks like the same as the one in the H300 user manual |
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| 16:41:10 | lebellium | they also made several LCD remote controls for their CD players (SlimX) |
| 16:41:30 | lebellium | At some point there was really much hype in remote controls :) |
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| 16:59:29 | lebellium | braewoods: I can't get the non-LCD remote for €25 |
| 16:59:35 | lebellium | I can* |
| 16:59:54 | braewoods | ah. don't you already have it? |
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| 17:00:48 | lebellium | No, I only have the H100 remote control twice (black + grey) |
| 17:01:11 | lebellium | If it's useful for some tests, I can buy it |
| 17:01:54 | lebellium | H10: https://img2.leboncoin.fr/ad-large/d1eb40f71639e8382178acf1382ff38288d35302.jpg |
| 17:02:03 | lebellium | H300 https://images.fr.shopping.rakuten.com/photo/1413898938.jpg |
| 17:02:13 | lebellium | as you can see, the connector is a bit different |
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| 18:11:42 | braewoods | ah. |
| 18:11:45 | braewoods | lebellium: i thought so. |
| 18:12:28 | braewoods | lebellium: feel free if you want but I don't know how valuable it would be. the main hitch is how to detect the other remotes. |
| 18:12:42 | braewoods | the comments suggest they never found a way to detect them. |
| 18:13:36 | efqw | speachy: I had some time to think about the m3k and in my opinion the best way to work with the current kernel/rootfs combination we have is to write a new `shutdown` binary that kills all processes, flushes writeback, unmounts everything, and then tell axp192 to cut power via the ioctl() call. |
| 18:13:59 | efqw | This way rb does NOT have to mess with this junk |
| 18:14:02 | speachy | yep |
| 18:15:06 | speachy | heck, it can be combined into the bootloader, have the system shutdown scripts call it with an argument to trigger the ioctl. |
| 18:15:21 | lebellium | braewoods: actually I didn't really understand why we are talking about iriver remote controls. Is there a plan to change something in the code related to this topic ? |
| 18:15:57 | braewoods | lebellium: i was revisiting the H300 and H100 in the process of doing research for producing a new set of bootloaders. |
| 18:16:11 | braewoods | i was seeing what else I might want to do within the realm of reason. |
| 18:16:30 | braewoods | the H320 hasn't seen a new bootloader in 14 years. |
| 18:16:37 | braewoods | but many fixes have been done in master since |
| 18:16:43 | braewoods | not all of which i know |
| 18:17:18 | braewoods | it's looking like it would be unrealistic to add support for the H300 only remotes given their scarcity |
| 18:17:42 | braewoods | plus the notes left behind suggest they... |
| 18:17:54 | braewoods | have no known way to detect their difference |
| 18:17:56 | braewoods | s |
| 18:18:23 | braewoods | lebellium: i was asking mostly for research i guess |
| 18:18:42 | lebellium | does that mean that if I currently plug the non-LCD remote to the H300, it won't be recognized by Rockbox? |
| 18:19:22 | braewoods | supposedly. |
| 18:19:32 | braewoods | support was never finished if these notes are still current |
| 18:20:22 | braewoods | https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IriverPort |
| 18:20:27 | braewoods | Done (h100 remote only so far) |
| 18:20:31 | braewoods | for the h300 side |
| 18:21:13 | lebellium | Ok got it. I like buying things to help for some tests but if no-one is going to dig into the remote detection, I won't waste €25 for a basic remote without LCD :) |
| 18:22:16 | braewoods | lebellium: https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents#A_40H300_41_Responses_from_iRiver_H300_remote_buttons_40got_from_Info_45_62Debug_45_62View_I_47O_Ports_41 |
| 18:23:34 | lebellium | 3 Rockbox users having the rare H300 LCD remote! |
| 18:23:42 | lebellium | good old time |
| 18:23:58 | braewoods | but yea, the main stickler is remote detection |
| 18:26:43 | lebellium | looks like they already went quite far without solution |
| 18:26:59 | lebellium | so probably a waste of time in 2020 :/ |
| 18:28:19 | braewoods | not much point in researching something that is next to impossible to find |
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| 18:30:25 | lebellium | It looks like one can make the difference between the H100 and any H300 remote though. So maybe back to the time it would have been great to have a user setting allowing to select between LCD and non-LCD when a H300 remote is detected? |
| 18:31:02 | braewoods | i'm not sure honestly |
| 18:31:10 | braewoods | the code suggests it is already implemented |
| 18:32:12 | braewoods | lebellium: actually i guess you can do us a favor |
| 18:32:21 | braewoods | buy it and see it if works with the latest development builds |
| 18:32:27 | braewoods | that's the only reason though |
| 18:32:36 | braewoods | the code suggests it may work |
| 18:32:53 | braewoods | it was commited in october 2006 |
| 18:33:23 | braewoods | firmware/target/coldfire/iriver/h300/button-h300.c |
| 18:33:25 | braewoods | this file |
| 18:34:15 | braewoods | lebellium: guess i'm trying to sort through all the old data to see what is still unresolvd |
| 18:34:31 | braewoods | in my quest to construct a TODO list for the bootloader |
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| 18:43:28 | lebellium | indeed if I understand button-h300.c the 3 remote are handled |
| 18:43:57 | braewoods | lebellium: well without the hardware i can't be sure |
| 18:44:18 | braewoods | up to you but that's something that would be nice to know. |
| 18:44:32 | braewoods | if the non-lcd works the lcd one probably does as well |
| 18:48:47 | braewoods | hm |
| 18:49:54 | lebellium | ok bought. I'll let you know when I get it |
| 18:50:49 | lebellium | good night |
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| 19:51:59 | braewoods | speachy: what is this WPS i keep reading about in rockbox stuff? |
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| 20:21:44 | __builtin | "While Playing Screen" |
| 20:22:05 | __builtin | it's one of the primary themeable elements |
| 20:30:54 | braewoods | ah |
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| 21:41:39 | _bilgus__ | and the skin engine (parser) is a bitch |
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| 22:33:38 | Stanley00 | I've have updated the patch to use usb-hiby.c and rocker_linux.c for M5. Now, if there's a way to make an updatable firmware as in fiio m3k, that would be great |
| 22:34:04 | Stanley00 | how do you create firmware file for fiio m3k or hiby based player? |
| 22:34:56 | Stanley00 | I check the firmware from m5, and it zip file of bunch of (maybe signed apk) zip files |
| 22:35:31 | efqw | Stanley00: currently we have no idea how to do this |
| 22:35:53 | Stanley00 | oh, how do you flash the firmware to m3k then? |
| 22:37:17 | efqw | FiiO borrowed the OTA stuff from the ingenic BSP instead of implementing their own (saner) versions like hiby did (.upt ISO image with simple md5 hash inside) |
| 22:38:12 | efqw | The Ingenic BSP was originally designed for iot (spy) speakers, so it does make some sense to have signed updates. |
| 22:39:02 | efqw | Currently there are two ways to approach this on an M3K |
| 22:40:06 | efqw | First, you can use the xvortex image (which is signed) to acquire a root shell, and then try to update the system UBI image (or remount it as rw and make your changes on the fly). I have not tried this so I cannot guarantee this will work. |
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| 22:46:50 | Stanley00 | yes, and what is the second way then? |
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| 23:02:07 | Stanley00 | currently, I already have root shell on m5, but I just think this is not so user friendly way to install rockbox |
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| 23:13:21 | efqw | Sorry I was distracted by something else |
| 23:13:38 | efqw | The 2nd way is to use the ingenic usb cloner to flash the ubi partition. |
| 23:14:22 | efqw | This bypasses the recovery (which is where the signature check happens) |
| 23:15:49 | efqw | We do not have rights/permission to distribute this cloner tool |
| 23:16:52 | efqw | But if you have it, all you need to do is to dump your device's flash partitions. |
| 23:16:55 | Stanley00 | I tried this cloner tool, but it seems it will need some config specific to the board, right? |
| 23:17:11 | efqw | Do you have all of the flash dumped? |
| 23:17:17 | efqw | *partitions |
| 23:17:43 | Stanley00 | I have some kind of mtd layout from dmesg message, not sure if it is the right one? |
| 23:17:53 | efqw | That's all you need. |
| 23:19:14 | Stanley00 | also, do I need special boot mode for the m5? I'm just feeling that plug it in usb port doesn't sound right |
| 23:20:00 | efqw | You need to power off the device, hold down a key and insert the USB cable |
| 23:20:30 | efqw | If the device doesn't start and your PC finds a new USB device, then it's good |
| 23:24:26 | Stanley00 | hmm... for my m5, there's only 3 buttons, and one of them already used for offline update, I will test this later today, thanks for the info |
| 23:25:29 | efqw | use the other one then |
| 23:25:45 | efqw | it's not power as that one is attached to the PMU |
| 23:28:54 | Stanley00 | this left out just one button remain, but I need at least 12 hours more so I can comeback to my dev pc to try this |
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| 23:43:12 | efqw | if you're on windows, you can use zadig to install the libusb driver |
| 23:43:21 | efqw | the cloner driver is just libusb |
| 23:49:02 | Stanley00 | I'm using linux, so I hope it would be easier |
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| 23:49:34 | efqw | on linux it needs sudo to set up udev rules |
| 23:49:44 | efqw | I recommend using a vm for this |
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| 23:52:31 | Stanley00 | oh, sudo and closed source tools sounds to sketch... I will go with vm then |
| 23:53:29 | efqw | yup |
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| 23:57:51 | Stanley00 | efqw: ah, one more thing, did the poweroff issue with m3k fixed? |
| 23:58:10 | Stanley00 | I would love to fix those issue with m5 too |
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