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03:44:01	edhelas	speachy that's really weird
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05:04:35	johnb7	edhelas I recall a similar message (about reverted patches) and questions what should be done with it. Unfortunately I don't recall in detail what I did afterwards. I believe I have added a few more packages listed on https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Windows10CrossCompiler. The reqpackages list in rockboxdev.sh is not accurate if you base on a bare Ubuntu 20.04 (I don't feel comfortable updating it myself due to my
05:04:35	johnb7	limited knowlege on this). Anyhow, at some point in time starting the build from scratch I succeeded. I am sorry to be that vague, I just wanted to tell you I believe I faced the same issue.
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08:35:40	ArsenArsen	wait, the 128GB limit on some models is a hardware one?
08:37:02	ArsenArsen	when plugged up to a PC it reports 232GiB
08:37:17	ArsenArsen	I guess that's because the ATA commands or whatever are just passed through?
08:37:53	ArsenArsen	ah no, it's partitioned oddly
08:38:00	ArsenArsen	there's a 127GB partition and a 192M partition
08:38:06	ArsenArsen	is that so that the OF can boot?
08:38:53	ArsenArsen	sdd 8:48 1 232.4G 0 disk
08:38:55	ArsenArsen	├─sdd1 8:49 1 127.8G 0 part
08:39:06	ArsenArsen	actually, restore might've done that
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08:57:17	braewoods	ArsenArsen: it's dependent on whether LBA48 support is present
08:57:28	braewoods	if it is then the limiter is the partition table
08:57:50	braewoods	in some cases though RB might be able to go even higher if GPT support was present
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09:10:24	gevaerts	Is that actually a practical concern yet? 2TB is a lot...
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09:24:09	_bilgus__	speachy I found the 2bit error, now I just need to fix it and keep it from breaking the others
09:45:31	_bilgus__	Whats funny is it was a patch to fix ipods
09:45:35	_bilgus__	https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/commit/41e1aa888b9d1fc41aaf158191980cce3e548302
09:46:54	_bilgus__	the stride was hardcoded for some reason to presumably handle lcd_bmp since it was passing the wrong stride
09:58:18	braewoods	gevaerts: indeed.
09:58:44	braewoods	gevaerts: but it's kinda chicken or the egg. it depends on the early bootloader whether it can work and such.
09:59:15	braewoods	gevaerts: you can boot Linux from GPT on non-UEFI PCs but it works because of how the MBR bootloader works
09:59:42	braewoods	in short if you can't find a way to boot from the fake MBR you can't boot from GPT
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10:01:25	braewoods	but realistically i've never owned a single storage device over 1TB
10:01:37	braewoods	my server is a 4 way mirror of 1TB disks
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10:14:20	gevaerts	Well yes, in servers and some desktops, 2TB+ is a real thing
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10:44:36	speachy	_bilgus__: whee, glad you found it.
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11:04:22	_bilgus__	it is weird after I fixed the logic in core now lcd_2-bit Vert now doesn't display bitmaps properly easy enough to hack around but I'm not understanding why
11:05:02	_bilgus__	the ssue was 2bit h..
11:08:04	_bilgus__	maybe some bitmaps have the proper stride already calculated hmm
11:11:08	_bilgus__	nope not that either
11:24:00	_bilgus__	haha one more bug down I was clearing the main fb when remote clear was called pretty sure I introduced that one
11:25:49	_bilgus__	no to check all the other targets seems to be a reoccuring theme fix one break all the rest
11:25:54	_bilgus__	now*
11:59:06	ArsenArsen	braewoods: present in what? the iflash solo should support it (and, again, linux is able to utilize the full storage)
11:59:56	ArsenArsen	I assume the ATA slave/device/whatever would need to know about it
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12:00:09	braewoods	ArsenArsen: i'm not 100% certain myself. but the 128GB limiter is from pre-LBA48 limitations.
12:00:21	ArsenArsen	I don't see what else inbetween could impose a limit frankly
12:00:30	ArsenArsen	especially since, again, over usb it reports the full size
12:00:30	braewoods	RB supports LBA48
12:00:36	ArsenArsen	I know that
12:00:43	ArsenArsen	I forgot my USB cable though...
12:01:03	braewoods	but i guess what they mean is the OF doesn't support LBA48 in some cases
12:01:39	braewoods	only real way to know is to try using something beyond 128GB
12:01:59	braewoods	128GB is the maximum safe value
12:02:16	braewoods	but i can't say i've needed that much even.
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12:04:33	ArsenArsen	hey I had a spare card, I want to use all of it
12:04:42	ArsenArsen	I do think it's because of how iTunes formatted the card
12:05:06	ArsenArsen	I'm not sure how the usb mass storage proto works, whether its hw or rockbox
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12:06:28	braewoods	what model of ipod?
12:07:03	braewoods	https://www.iflash.xyz/store/iflash-compatibility/
12:07:29	braewoods	"The 6th Gen models (80Gb/120Gb/Thick 160Gb) are limited to LBA28 addressing by Apple, so these models will only show and use up to 128Gb of the storage installed – The other iPod models have LBA48 addressing so do not have this limitation."
12:08:14	ArsenArsen	MB147
12:08:31	ArsenArsen	yes, but I am thinking that is an OF limitation, and a limitation of the original hard drive, but not of an adapter
12:08:48	ArsenArsen	"This LBA28 Limitation can be removed by replacing the iPod operating system with an 3rd party OS such as Rockbox" ye
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12:08:51	ArsenArsen	yep*
12:09:00	ArsenArsen	so I just need to mess with the partition table a bit
12:09:27	braewoods	maybe, i dunno. i just know you usually are stuck with what their official tools do as rockbox doesn't replace the entire firmware on most devices
12:10:02	braewoods	H100 is a rare special case where it can
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12:44:07	ArsenArsen	there isn't much that itunes would be able to do, I don't think
12:44:14	ArsenArsen	then again, I am not 100% certain of how this works either
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13:17:40	speachy	_bilgus__: the latest rocker code supposedly is broken again, but I'm unable to recreate the problem on the other ingenic targets I have here.
13:18:07	speachy	_bilgus__: https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51653.msg247228.html#msg247228
13:19:09	_bilgus__	give me about 10 mins to update the bootloader
13:24:18	_bilgus__	speachy do you have a version of your latest rocker bootloader linked somewhere?
13:24:39	speachy	it's inside the zipfiles on d.r.o
13:24:54	speachy	but it's edbdefa09a-201018
13:25:13	speachy	(there are also bsdiff patches to the OF, and patched OF images there too)
13:25:53	speachy	which I intend to remove once we have a proper rbutil release that supports all of these things
13:27:54	_bilgus__	oh even better!
13:28:47	speachy	I figure none of these guys, especially agptek, are in a position to complain about us hosting fw images given how many licenses they're already violating...
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13:29:03	speachy	(agptek ships an image with one of our bootloader builds in it too)
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13:30:05	speachy	but yeah, those pre-patched images will be nuked once we get a new rbutil release out.
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13:56:27	_bilgus__	speachy I was able to repro but not quite in the manner he said
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14:00:08	_bilgus__	oh with backlight exemptions it is different but from default cfg it does exactly as he explains
14:00:27	speachy	I think I have a stock setup on my other ingenic targets
14:00:42	speachy	how else did you trigger it?
14:00:44	_bilgus__	speachy there are targets that use a timer to fade the backlight in and out is it stealing your timer?
14:00:57	_bilgus__	I just fixed timers
14:01:10	_bilgus__	timers that would have been disabled
14:01:34	speachy	all of these ingenic targets use identical backlight stuff. IIRC it's purely systick-driven
14:02:32	speachy	there's no target-specific timer stuff going on for these things.
14:03:16	_bilgus__	if backlight exemptions are on then the first press resumes playback and it doesn't fail till the screen is turned on again
14:03:39	_bilgus__	if LCD>Firstkeypress = true no issue
14:03:55	_bilgus__	the screen is already on by the time PB state changes
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14:25:51	_bilgus__	or if there is a different timer we could wire to rb or do some heroic stuff if its that important
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15:09:44	vvrng	I'm trying to figure out how bricked my sansa clip+ is
15:11:23	vvrng	this is the dmesg output
15:11:25	vvrng	https://pastebin.com/RPnWKVfw
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15:12:30	vvrng	screen is completely black and I've tried flashing the stock firmware with dd but it didn't really change anything
15:13:32	johnb7	Do you have a recent bootloader on it?
15:13:43	vvrng	I've been following the sansaamsunbrick guide from rockbox.org
15:14:46	vvrng	I guess I do!
15:15:06	vvrng	latest stable bootloader i think, however, it's been a few months since I was tinkering with this device
15:15:43	johnb7	you can try to boot from SD.
15:17:36	vvrng	how often does the screen die on these things?
15:18:00	johnb7	this is not the screen, but the flash dying.
15:18:26	vvrng	it doesn't mount the sd card unfortunately...
15:18:37	johnb7	do you hear a sound on your headphone if you turn the player on?
15:20:12	johnb7	see https://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus/rockbox-buildch13.html#x15-36600013.3.2 for booting from SD.
15:20:16	vvrng	atm the battery is removed
15:23:25	johnb7	you can still try with a wall charger and usb cable.
15:29:04	braewoods	or any other 5V supply
15:29:15	vvrng	I'll try with my powerbank
15:29:45	braewoods	i've used usb to barrel jack adapters before. nice cheap solution for some devices.
15:29:51	vvrng	I still think the screen might just be defective since it sometimes works if I press it
15:30:23	braewoods	vvrng: if it's this borked up, maybe it's time to retire it?
15:31:32	vvrng	braewoods: possibly, since i have a working ipod
15:31:40	vvrng	still, it's so qt
15:31:46	braewoods	qt?
15:32:22	vvrng	it's a cute little device which I'd like to use from time to time
15:32:40	vvrng	and also, prices for them have gone crazy since they don't make them anymore
15:33:32	johnb7	if it works every now and then, then definitely try multiboot before the flash corrupts even more.
15:35:06	vvrng	idk, i think it's pretty borked...
15:35:31	vvrng	it was worth a final shot!
15:35:58	vvrng	I just wanted to make sure it's not the screen that's dead
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18:59:43	lebellium	hum I just updated my Clip Zip bootloader to get multiboot support and installed a fresh dev build and actually there is an issue with the default cabbiev2: the white background of tango_icons.8x8.bmp is visible
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19:00:08	lebellium	we lost transparency?
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19:15:12	braewoods	lebellium: BMP supports transparency?
19:15:41	lebellium	I don't think so
19:16:00	lebellium	we would need PNG for that
19:16:07	braewoods	or GIF at least
19:16:17	lebellium	but we handle transparency in Rockbox
19:16:28	lebellium	the old way I still use in my themes, with a specific purple color
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19:17:39	lebellium	https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS The colour magenta [R=255,G=0,B=255] is translated as transparent when used in BMP's, and can be used to create transparent (or background colour) parts in images in the WPS.
19:19:32	lebellium	but I remember there is another newer way to achieve it
19:23:16	lebellium	I get transparency with cabbie v2 on the Agptek H3 (tango_icons.16x16.bmp)
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19:44:50	lebellium	I assume the "newer" way I'm talking about is https://git.rockbox.org/cgit/rockbox.git/commit/?id=f443e7bbf7771ce3a79b1c2116b9cf216f15938f
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21:44:35	_bilgus__	braewoods I know what commit broke that
21:44:44	_bilgus__	it was from another user
21:45:06	_bilgus__	oh sorry lebellium
21:50:00	speachy	_bilgus__: was it something I did?
21:57:29	_bilgus__	no I committed it
21:57:50	_bilgus__	its updated icons I bet he got the trans color wrong
21:59:09	_bilgus__	also I got the dirty viewport thing worked out pretty nice and I'm down to only the h100 being broken something remote screen related
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22:02:23	speachy	on the timer front, it's not clear what the interference is yet.
22:03:11	_bilgus__	I can jump on that if you need some help..
22:04:56	speachy	been occupied with more meatspace stuff today
22:07:33	speachy	but I haven't been able to recreate it on the h2 or x3ii so far. makes it a lot harder to debug. :/
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22:51:15	_bilgus__	I'm unsure where to start what do you do start tromping through the host?
22:51:24	_bilgus__	adb..
22:55:25	braewoods	speachy: i've owned a few usb cables in my time and sometimes they come with these cylinders near the ends, mostly with mini usb 2.0
22:55:31	braewoods	speachy: any ideas what those do?
22:55:49	_bilgus__	that is a ferrite core
22:56:01	_bilgus__	they are used to cut down EMI
22:56:15	braewoods	I see. i thought the sheathing was supposed to do that.
22:56:18	speachy	especially common with wifi adapters and other things like that.
22:56:27	braewoods	this is just a usb 2.0 cable
22:56:34	_bilgus__	and some are real and Ive gotten others with an empty casing
22:56:48	braewoods	i thought it was a capacitor or something
22:56:50	speachy	it acts as a big inductor
22:56:57	braewoods	i didn't know why it was there
22:57:09	_bilgus__	they have them on power cords sometimes too
22:57:40	speachy	it works both ways; prevents EMI going out but also helps mitigate stuff coming in
22:57:41	_bilgus__	typically power supplies have several once in the pc too
22:58:17	_bilgus__	any piece of wire in space becomes an antenna based on wavelength
22:58:30	braewoods	interesting.
22:58:31	_bilgus__	start pushing power it radiates
22:58:35	speachy	_bilgus__: a good start would be to turn on adb in the loader, then log in and run strace against the rockbox binary, get it to fail and see if anything intereting shows up
22:58:42	braewoods	one of the H320s that i receive charges over usb the other doesn't appear to
22:58:42	_bilgus__	start reading it recieves
22:58:52	*	braewoods shrugs
22:59:56	_bilgus__	still get the USB unplug PANIC mount 0
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23:00:45	speachy	can you confirm in the debug hwinfo menu what the bootloader version is?
23:03:33	_bilgus__	edbdef 201018 grabbed it from DRO
23:03:50	_bilgus__	this was in the FW though
23:04:13	_bilgus__	or does the BL affect that too
23:05:10	speachy	the hwinfo menu reads a file left on the hostfs
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23:07:46	_bilgus__	no I mean the crash was
23:08:27	speachy	well, it's not the BL itself per se, it's the changes made to the hostfs when the fw image was patched with the BL.
23:08:37	_bilgus__	ah got ya
23:09:10	speachy	that mount panic should have been completely solved by the changes I made to the 20181018 prepatched images
23:09:13	_bilgus__	ok so you said log in are there credentials?
23:09:23	speachy	nope, 'adb shell' gives you root
23:09:35	speachy	(assuming you have the android adb stuff installed..)
23:09:44	_bilgus__	i do
23:12:45	_bilgus__	ok last hint where is the rb bin?
23:13:10	speachy	ps \|grep rockbox, strace -p pidnum
23:13:58	speachy	ctrl-C will break
23:15:08	_bilgus__	Oh I guess I was suppose to start rb lol
23:15:16	speachy	yeah, that helps. :)
23:17:13	speachy	I have a very hard time seeing how these timers could interfere with audio playback
23:18:41	speachy	the systick and "user timer" use the same mechanism to run and fire, one wouldn't fail without the other being equally broken, given that the ALSA SIGIO fires many, many times per second to refill things
23:22:28	speachy	but the backlight is the only timer user in the core
23:23:30	speachy	... so.. why does the backlight gets its own timer, and not piggyback on the systick stuff?
23:27:05	speachy	and if I'm reading this correctly, the hw timer's not used at all on sw-controlled fading.
23:27:12	speachy	ie on these targets.
23:27:54	speachy	yep, it's not the system timer at all.
23:28:22	speachy	which points back at an audio driver bug.
23:29:17	speachy	_bilgus__: don't bother with the strace crap. edit firmware/target/hosted/pcm-alsa.c and uncomment LOGF_ENABLE. Then do a LOGF-enabled build
23:29:33	speachy	run it, get it to fail, then see what's in the logf buffer.
23:31:20	_bilgus__	oh I was already looking through the strace
23:32:08	speachy	most likely the heavy filesystem activity involved in when the fading is going on is causing an underrun condition in the playback, which isn't being recovered from properly.
23:32:57	_bilgus__	ioctl(11, SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START, 0xe2b610) = -1 EBADFD (File descriptor in bad state)
23:32:57	_bilgus__	−−- SIGIO {si_signo=SIGIO, si_code=POLL_IN, si_band=65} −−-
23:33:27	speachy	one of those is normal when playback starts
23:33:52	speachy	(we get the error, and alsa starts playing back as if it was fine)
23:34:02	speachy	(because reasons)
23:37:06	_bilgus__	in taht case I don't see anything funky https://pastebin.com/ntZ6xPu7
23:37:17	_bilgus__	I'll try logf next
23:46:14	_bilgus__	its too bad the fade routine can't be done on a slightly less FS intensive basis
23:46:36	speachy	we have to write to a sysfs file. :/
23:46:51	speachy	same for detecting the headphone/etc state
23:47:14	speachy	though I wonder..
23:48:49	_bilgus__	like drop a helper binary on there
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23:50:17	speachy	if we could issue an ioctl against the open fb device that would be much faster
23:57:21	speachy	for things like polling headphones etc we can switch to having mdev signal us if something interesting changes (so we can avoid constant polling)

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