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#rockbox log for 2020-11-25

00:08:49_bilgus__borkitall, I usually just search locally on windows try https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/search_my_files.html and on linux I've been using jedit for in file text/regex searches
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02:32:22borkitall_bilgus__: thanks
02:33:03borkitallwhat would be a good subcatagory for the bang search
02:33:05borkitallhttps://duckduckgo.com/newbang
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03:02:46__builtinTech?
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03:30:37borkitallokay ill do that
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04:01:37borkitalllol sorry i meant to say subcategory
04:01:47borkitallmy mind is all over the place atm
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04:06:05borkitallalso, having trouble with coming up with something to put in the comments sections, suggestions are welcome
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15:53:24bluebrother^hmm. Wondering if Rockbox Utility should fall back to internal URL templates if the server doesn't contain one. But if that happens the data returned from the server is at least questionable anyway. So seems a bit to me that extra work isn't worth it.
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16:14:51braewoodsbluebrother^: would be interesting if we could record RBU installation stats.
16:15:10braewoodsjust to see how popular various targets are
16:15:13braewoodsif nothing else
16:32:46speachybluebrother^: I agree FWIW. IF the server is sending bad data, then frankly we probably can't trust any of it.
16:33:16speachythe templates are static strings but are generated by the same script that populates the per-player data
16:35:19speachybraewoods: that's really just a matter of server analytics. but without some sort of unique identifier per device, number of downloads will at best be a rough correlation to actual devices.
16:35:46braewoodsand it wouldn't count multiple installs using the same cache
16:36:08speachyor the same player getting multiple updates
16:36:32braewoodsupgrades.. don't mind so much. would still tell us it's being used.
16:36:41speachythe stats from the main site are already mostly bots.
16:36:58braewoodswhy would bots hit an http mirror?
16:37:01braewoodswhat's the value?
16:37:12speachyit's sipelr to hit _everything_.
16:37:32braewoodswe could narrow it down by user agent to a degree
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16:37:45braewoodsmost people won't know what a UA even is
16:37:55speachyrbutil uses a unique agent but beyond that, it's pretty much impossible to distinguish between a real browser and a bot.
16:38:10braewoodsindeed
16:38:12speachy(beyond the well-known/well-behaved variety)
16:38:41speachyand of course rbutil only supports a subset of our targets. perhaps the rest aren't terribly relevant, but still.
16:39:27speachyI've outright banned quite a few UAs, including bing, which is pathological when it comes to crawling the forum in particular..
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