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| 07:27:57 | k1w1 | I'm trying to install https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AgptekRocker, and everything seemingly goes fine (including the firmware update option on the OG firmware) until I reboot and I don't get to choose rockbox. What gives? |
| 07:28:56 | _bilgus | whats the OG firmware? |
| 07:29:29 | __builtin | "Original"? |
| 07:29:58 | k1w1 | yes, original |
| 07:29:59 | _bilgus | ah so maybe you aren't using the proper patched update k1w1 |
| 07:30:22 | k1w1 | I chose the prepatched image that's on the wiki |
| 07:30:46 | _bilgus | http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/agptek/ROCKER-20171101-patched.upt |
| 07:31:04 | k1w1 | yes, that one |
| 07:31:32 | _bilgus | I'm trying to remeber if there was anything special when I did it but I'm drawing blanks |
| 07:31:51 | k1w1 | and I can confirm that I have an .upt file on the .rockbox dir |
| 07:32:06 | _bilgus | it has a special name IIRC |
| 07:32:19 | _bilgus | upgrade.upt or update.upt |
| 07:32:22 | k1w1 | mine's just update.upt |
| 07:32:42 | _bilgus | sounds legit let me double check |
| 07:34:25 | _bilgus | so when you selected the update from the OF menu (original firmware) did it give a message about updating then or did it just immediately drop you back to the menu? |
| 07:34:54 | k1w1 | it reboots, goes to a black screen, then says something about the tf card, then updated, then "success" with a smiley face |
| 07:37:18 | _bilgus | that is odd if you have the wrong file it just drops back to the menu so it sounds like you are correct |
| 07:37:40 | _bilgus | first thing i'd probably do is check the sd card |
| 07:37:52 | k1w1 | I can try a different one, hold on |
| 07:39:20 | _bilgus | could also be something funky with the player I suppose or even a new revision that no longer works |
| 07:41:06 | _bilgus | also re-download the patched file just in case its corrupted |
| 07:41:33 | _bilgus | you'd think it'd catch something like that but perhaps it did and just doesn't update |
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| 07:47:31 | k1w1 | well still no dice |
| 07:47:47 | k1w1 | with both a new sd card and re-downloading the patched file |
| 07:48:16 | _bilgus | ok let me try on the community rocker i'm not sure it'll let me repatch it but i'll try |
| 07:49:57 | _bilgus | uh hmm I swear speachy had a newer prepatched file |
| 07:50:03 | _bilgus | bb |
| 07:50:12 | k1w1 | _bilgus: could you check which is the fw version your rocker has? |
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| 07:50:37 | k1w1 | mine's at 1.31 Beta |
| 07:52:48 | _bilgus | ah thats probably it then I bet it has a newer version lockout or something |
| 07:53:20 | k1w1 | hmm |
| 07:53:27 | _bilgus | and yes the one you downloaded is current it must be a different player that has the updated bootloader |
| 07:53:38 | _bilgus | we should probably check the forums |
| 07:53:45 | k1w1 | guess I could downgrade to one of these fw: http://www.agptek.com/index.php/blog/agptek-rocker-firmware-download-2/ |
| 07:53:51 | k1w1 | nothing on the forums that I've seen |
| 07:54:59 | _bilgus | https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=51653.345 |
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| 07:56:40 | k1w1 | oh nice |
| 07:57:53 | _bilgus | wiki needs updated apparently i'll put a note for now but someone with one will need to probably update the bootloader |
| 07:59:21 | speachy | is the patched RB image failing to update over the 1.31 firmware? |
| 07:59:30 | speachy | (not entirely clear from this conversation) |
| 07:59:40 | k1w1 | seems to be the case |
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| 08:00:07 | speachy | ...I thought I'd had independent confirmation of it working |
| 08:00:48 | k1w1 | if you need someone to test this out, I'm around |
| 08:01:01 | k1w1 | still haven't done the procedure that's on _bilgus's link |
| 08:01:40 | speachy | bilgus has my rocker, and IIRC agptek didn't provide an updated 1.31 firmware image. |
| 08:02:04 | speachy | oh, can you flash the "Rockbox compatible" firmware that agptek supplies? |
| 08:02:23 | speachy | (as in, did you try it, and if so, did it work?) |
| 08:02:32 | k1w1 | I can try, but doesn't the agptek firmware update require windows? |
| 08:02:44 | speachy | nope, it's just a rar containing the upt file |
| 08:02:47 | k1w1 | ah |
| 08:02:50 | k1w1 | that's awesome |
| 08:02:53 | k1w1 | let me try then |
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| 08:05:55 | _bilgus | k1w1 Ive updated the wiki with a note but can you give me a detailed description of your steps if successful ( for the next you :)) ? |
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| 08:07:05 | k1w1 | speachy: tried it, and the updater says "failed" |
| 08:07:15 | _bilgus | speaking of speachy I'm still working on other stuff let me know if and when you want me to send the player back or on to someone else |
| 08:08:18 | _bilgus | otherwise it's in a sealed tin with desiccant packet till I get back around to it |
| 08:08:22 | speachy | k1w1: unfortunately, this looks like the same problem that is afflicting the hifiwalker h2 (and probably others); they're shipping newer firmware than what is available for download. |
| 08:08:44 | speachy | the only path forward that I see is to take apart a 1.31-containing Rocker and get access the the serial console |
| 08:09:27 | speachy | use that to see the exact error that comes out and/or dump the recovery paritition along the way. |
| 08:10:35 | _bilgus | whats funny is they sell this device based on rockbox works with this and broke it |
| 08:10:46 | _bilgus | 'funny' |
| 08:11:20 | speachy | k1w1: you might want to contact their support |
| 08:11:55 | _bilgus | and please document it if successful.. |
| 08:12:12 | k1w1 | ok, good news |
| 08:12:12 | * | speachy is re-reading the forum thread. |
| 08:12:27 | k1w1 | booted rockbox with https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=51653.345 |
| 08:12:29 | speachy | I could have sworn I'd had confirmation that my updated flash images worked |
| 08:12:47 | _bilgus | oh so you do have the update images |
| 08:12:55 | _bilgus | he is using the 2017 |
| 08:13:09 | _bilgus | its the one on dro as well |
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| 08:13:35 | speachy | k1w1: so you did the downgrade-to-1.2 first? |
| 08:15:38 | k1w1 | apparently not! |
| 08:15:56 | k1w1 | just renamed the .upt file, used the OF option, and that was it |
| 08:16:04 | speachy | and you got this upt from where? |
| 08:16:14 | _bilgus | that mega link I presume |
| 08:16:40 | k1w1 | yes |
| 08:16:44 | speachy | beause the ver string in the upt we supply has the timestamp in there. |
| 08:16:59 | k1w1 | ah, but if I boot to the OF, it says that I'm on 1.2 |
| 08:17:06 | speachy | can you flash our image over the one you're using? |
| 08:17:21 | k1w1 | the prepatched that's on the wiki, yeah? |
| 08:17:27 | speachy | k1w1: yes |
| 08:17:41 | speachy | (agptek never provided a downloadable version of 1.31) |
| 08:17:43 | k1w1 | ok, just a minute |
| 08:18:04 | speachy | k1w1: the mega link from Milardo? |
| 08:18:22 | k1w1 | speachy: yes |
| 08:18:28 | speachy | ok. |
| 08:18:40 | speachy | downloading it now; time to see what it is doing differently. |
| 08:20:42 | k1w1 | yes, I can flash the pre-patched wiki image now. |
| 08:20:58 | speachy | wtf, the working one says "ver=ver=2018-12-07T00:00:00+08:00 |
| 08:21:15 | speachy | (ie "ver=ver=") |
| 08:21:51 | speachy | would have been nice to get a copy of the 1.31 firmware out of flash first. :/ |
| 08:23:08 | _bilgus | always works like that |
| 08:24:28 | k1w1 | _bilgus: ok, seems like the way to go is to put the file from the mega link on the sd card root, rename it as update.upt, and update it via the OF |
| 08:24:50 | k1w1 | probably helps to already have the rockbox files on the sd card as well, haven't tried without them |
| 08:26:06 | _bilgus | I verified the menu still works without the sd card |
| 08:26:10 | _bilgus | so should be fine |
| 08:27:30 | k1w1 | alright, thanks for the help |
| 08:27:51 | k1w1 | speachy: it does seem like that image is from benji, not from apgtek |
| 08:28:17 | speachy | that "ver=ver=<bla>" thing is a real wtf. |
| 08:28:58 | speachy | the thing is, the recovery image (ie what does the actual patching) isn't part of either update. so it shouldn't matter one way or another. |
| 08:29:15 | speachy | I wonder if the 1.31 OF is doing its own independent check. |
| 08:29:44 | speachy | (you can force the recovery to run by holding down a specific key on poweron. don't recall what the rocker uses offhand) |
| 08:31:48 | k1w1 | I'm still super sad that my sansa clip+ kicked the can, but this will have to do |
| 08:31:56 | k1w1 | at least there's rockbox |
| 08:34:10 | speachy | I'll make that "ver=ver" change to the patcher script and re-generate the rocker images |
| 08:38:50 | speachy | k1w1: can you try flashing this: https://www.shaftnet.org/~pizza/rb-ROCKER-20171101.upt |
| 08:39:20 | speachy | (still uploading) |
| 08:39:50 | k1w1 | i'll try in a minute, just want to have lunch first |
| 08:40:12 | speachy | done |
| 08:44:47 | _bilgus | speachy not sure it matters on this one but it works *Here* edbdefa09a-201018? |
| 08:45:44 | speachy | it's the same bl build, just has the outer update wrapper tweaked to match what was in that mega download. |
| 08:46:13 | speachy | we'll need someone else with a pristine 1.31 to confirm it workson that, alas. |
| 08:46:17 | _bilgus | ok will un update the wiki :p |
| 08:46:19 | * | speachy sighs. |
| 08:46:32 | speachy | ok, pushing the updates onto d.r.o now |
| 08:48:01 | speachy | done. |
| 08:48:11 | speachy | pre-patched upt and bsdiff fixed. |
| 08:48:18 | speachy | s/fixed/replaced/ |
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| 08:57:48 | k1w1 | yeah that image also works for me |
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| 09:01:37 | k1w1 | now, I guess i'll convert all my flacs to opus to celebrate |
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| 10:50:35 | Genju | ello o/ |
| 10:51:37 | Genju | has anybody here tried rockbox on an xduoo x3ii? |
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| 11:05:51 | speachy | yep |
| 11:06:12 | speachy | works reasonably well, albeit with completly unoptimized keymaps |
| 11:07:18 | Genju | i'm having a little problem |
| 11:07:36 | Genju | i was using a fuze+ before and just copied the contents of that sd card to a new one (all musepack files) |
| 11:07:50 | Genju | some albums don't show up in the database, for some reason (they showed up fine on the fuze+) |
| 11:08:00 | Genju | and it's always whole albums that are missing, as far as i can tell |
| 11:08:16 | Genju | like, i have a folder named <band name> with two subfolders containing an album each |
| 11:08:21 | Genju | one album shows up, the other doesn't |
| 11:08:31 | Genju | adding the missing stuff via the file browser works and the files play fine |
| 11:08:57 | speachy | that's something I havent heard of happening before |
| 11:09:03 | Genju | yeah, it's weird |
| 11:09:16 | Genju | using the latest rockbox build |
| 11:09:28 | Genju | it's not a deal breaker, but i found it curious :) |
| 11:09:32 | speachy | sounds like a DB scanning issue |
| 11:09:49 | Genju | yeah, but what throws me off is that the actual files seem to work just fine when added via the file browser |
| 11:09:56 | Genju | so it's not a readability problem per se? |
| 11:10:09 | speachy | yeah |
| 11:10:19 | Genju | apart from that it's all good, excellent sound quality and all |
| 11:10:24 | speachy | the DB and file browser both use the same underlying code to access the files |
| 11:10:45 | Genju | i even reinitialized the db a couple of times, no change |
| 11:10:55 | Genju | (not my first rodeo :) ) |
| 11:11:32 | speachy | since the X3ii is running rockbox as a linux application, it does eliminate some pretty large swaths of the codebase. |
| 11:11:37 | Genju | yep |
| 11:11:38 | speachy | (as potential problem sources, I mean) |
| 11:11:53 | Genju | can't test the affected files with the original player app, as it doesn't support musepack |
| 11:11:57 | Genju | how dare it!? |
| 11:12:18 | speachy | hmm, one thing to try is to try putting this stuff through a simulator build |
| 11:12:38 | Genju | hm, i can try that, got a link on where to find one of those? |
| 11:12:55 | Genju | still have all the files on a folder on my pc from the copying over process yesterday |
| 11:13:25 | Genju | also, i tried verifying the files straight from the sd card via fb2k, they all read and verify fine |
| 11:13:37 | speachy | I think there are some prebuilt windows and macos binaries to be had, but if you want to run it on linux you'll need to compile it yourself |
| 11:13:46 | Genju | nah, windows here |
| 11:14:04 | Genju | my linuces are restricted to VMs :] |
| 11:14:36 | Genju | rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/ |
| 11:14:41 | Genju | no xduoo here, unfortunately |
| 11:15:10 | speachy | yeah, I don't know of any reasonbly-up-to-date sim builds |
| 11:16:10 | Genju | btw, thanks for taking some time to reply, appreciate it :) |
| 11:16:26 | Genju | as in "some of your time" |
| 11:17:32 | speachy | I'm trying to see if I can cross-build a windows version for you |
| 11:17:54 | Genju | thanks, if everything fails i can try setting up the necessary cross-compiler and stuff |
| 11:18:05 | Genju | have working msys2 and cygwin installs somewhere |
| 11:27:56 | Genju | holy shit |
| 11:28:02 | Genju | i... might have solved the problem |
| 11:28:13 | Genju | the system date of the device was set to some day in 2015 |
| 11:28:24 | Genju | set it correctly, reinitialized db, rebooted |
| 11:28:28 | Genju | now the albums show up |
| 11:28:47 | speachy | well, great! |
| 11:29:04 | Genju | hmm, at least some of them do? |
| 11:29:40 | Genju | i'm gonna let it run for a while, maybe it just takes some time to index the new files |
| 11:29:45 | Genju | no sd activity indicator, sadly |
| 11:30:09 | speachy | yeah, we don't have that kind of visibility |
| 11:30:30 | Genju | at least now we know it's got something to do with the system date |
| 11:30:32 | Genju | for some reason |
| 11:30:44 | speachy | (on native targets, it's twiddled by the low-level storage subsystem) |
| 11:31:20 | speachy | (under Linux, we don't have a way to extract that from the running system) |
| 11:31:20 | Genju | hmm, actually, there's something else i've changed. removed embedded album art from one of the affected albums and that one shows up now |
| 11:31:24 | Genju | maybe it's got something to do with that |
| 11:31:40 | speachy | bad album art could definitely cause the DB indexing to skip those files |
| 11:31:52 | Genju | well, it wasn't "bad" per se, it worked fine on the fuze+ |
| 11:31:58 | speachy | "Bad" being anything that rockbox doesn't quite like |
| 11:31:59 | Genju | wasn't huge files either |
| 11:32:09 | Genju | like i said, they worked on the fuze+ |
| 11:32:16 | speachy | one thing worht mentioning; on the x3++ the filesystem is case-senseitive |
| 11:32:25 | speachy | s/++/ii/ |
| 11:32:32 | Genju | hmm |
| 11:32:35 | Genju | .mpc vs .MPC? |
| 11:33:14 | speachy | eg for non-embedded album art with different filename capitizaltion than the folder name |
| 11:33:34 | Genju | think i'll go thermonuclear and remove all embedded album art |
| 11:33:37 | speachy | extensions we already fold into lower case for lookup purposes |
| 11:33:45 | Genju | i'm using the player in my car, not like i'm ever looking at the screen :) |
| 11:34:09 | Genju | (kinda hard to do when you're doing 170 kph on an autobahn!) |
| 11:36:10 | Genju | removing all the embedded album art now |
| 11:36:21 | speachy | the x3ii is good for hands-free use due to its button layout. the original x3 is even better, even with gloves on |
| 11:36:41 | Genju | i went for a model with rockbox support and physical buttons for that reason |
| 11:36:50 | speachy | the fuze+ was pretty awful |
| 11:36:52 | Genju | the fuze+ is a nice device, but using the touchpad blindly is a nightmare |
| 11:37:02 | Genju | well, yeah, i'd have prefered my old clip+, but it died |
| 11:37:32 | Genju | the fuze+ would have been much better with clip+ style buttons |
| 11:37:43 | Genju | not like they couldn't have used the space for one |
| 11:37:57 | speachy | yeah, the touchpad was better in the OF but was still pretty bad |
| 11:38:02 | Genju | ok, all album art removed |
| 11:38:44 | Genju | btw, do you happen to know if there's a way to reduce the 10 second delay in the boot menu of the x3ii? |
| 11:41:36 | speachy | not yet; I haven't figure out a decent way to rework that stuff. |
| 11:41:47 | Genju | no worries |
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| 11:43:32 | speachy | I'm not happy with how that whole thing is implemented. |
| 11:44:04 | Genju | at least it works :) |
| 11:44:07 | Genju | mostly |
| 11:45:44 | Genju | looks like removing the embedded album art did the trick |
| 11:45:53 | Genju | still something to look into, i guess |
| 11:46:15 | Genju | external cover.jpg files don't seem to cause any problems, btw |
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| 13:53:11 | mendel_munkis | Genju: i use the fuze+ in the dark all the time |
| 13:53:34 | Genju | you are more skilled at operating a fuze+ than i am, kind sir or madam |
| 13:53:41 | mendel_munkis | speachy: why did you push 3105? I thought we said pausing would be safer? |
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| 13:54:01 | mendel_munkis | nah I just got the distances into muscle memory. |
| 13:54:15 | Genju | i've only had the fuze+ for a year or so |
| 13:54:15 | mendel_munkis | the first 3 years where tough |
| 13:54:22 | speachy | at worst this patch is no better than the former status quo |
| 13:54:24 | Genju | recentl it started locking up while reading from sd, that didn't make it better |
| 13:54:28 | Genju | recently* |
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| 13:55:24 | speachy | mendel_munkis: FS13263 |
| 13:56:14 | speachy | I'd rather a not-perfect fix be committed than wait for a grander vision that might never materialize. |
| 13:56:48 | mendel_munkis | fair enough. I'm just worried about where the pointer might end up pointing |
| 13:57:14 | speachy | mendel_munkis: hence my saying at worst it's no different than the status quo |
| 13:57:42 | mendel_munkis | unless it ends up pointing to some random *other string |
| 13:58:40 | speachy | the string it points to is the filename in the playlist structure |
| 13:59:55 | speachy | the delete call expects an actual filename, so if the filename turns out to be not a filename, then it'll fail to do the delete and no harm done. |
| 13:59:58 | mendel_munkis | I see. I was worried that playing a new song would completly change that area of memory, but I see that's not the case |
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| 14:00:28 | mendel_munkis | and failing to do the delete is probably better than the status quo |
| 14:02:16 | speachy | yeah. right now you'll get (unexpected) data loss. |
| 14:02:58 | speachy | (or rather, pre-patch) |
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| 21:30:51 | zzzhhh | Hi friends, I'm trying to analyze Sony NW-A55 and NW-ZX300 firmware upgrade packages. |
| 21:31:25 | zzzhhh | I've read upgtool wiki, but got some trouble with 'system.img' file |
| 21:32:19 | zzzhhh | I use 'mount' to mount this img file, but dont know how to repack it to img file after modifying some content |
| 21:35:06 | zzzhhh | Can someone tell me how to do it or some keyword I may google? |
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